Patriots at Jets Preview: The Battle for AFC East Supremacy
I've been saying it all week, every single Jets-Patriots game is like a violent box of chocolates, you have absolutely no clue what you are going to get. I have no clue what is going to happen out there tomorrow. It could be a hard fought game typical of AFC East battles where a winner emerges in the fourth quarter, it could be a lopsided defeat, or it could be the game where the Jets decisively take out the Patriots and claim the AFC East for their own.
I don't want us to get overly arrogant, but I feel the Jets can hang with this team in spite of our previous defeat in Foxborough. Everything through our team history both recently and overall is evident that the Jets can take on and beat the Pats. The 52-52-1 overall record against each other, the fact that both teams have won 3 of the last 6 meetings, everything about these teams shows that we are each others greatest weakness. This has all the makings of the best divisional match up in the entire league all season.
It will be different then last time. The entire team expects to play with the exception of Brodney Pool. While I'm deeply disappointed in the loss of the one Jets safety with solid coverage skills, when you sign Pool you need to be prepared for him to miss a few games. They've pulled it together without him before and they can do it again. The most notable difference on the Patriots is that Jerod Mayo will return and Brandon Spikes will be out at LB. Patrick Chung may or may not play which could be pivotal for the Jets. It's worth noting that the Pats wealth of injuries last meeting did nothing to help the Jets.
Winning this game will require a balanced attack and many, many first downs. The Patriots defense always leaves the opportunity for victory. Perry Fewell and the New York Giants proved that Tom Brady's offense can be shut down last week, let us follow their example. The Patriots have outperformed the Jets in every offensive capacity, while the Jets are a defensive behemoth compared to NE's worst ranked squad.
Full breakdown after the rundown and the jump. Feel free to leave your comments, thoughts, concerns, predictions etc. below.
The Rundown
New England Patriots @ New York Jets -- Sunday, Nov. 13th, 8:20 p.m. EST
Location: Metlife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ.
Coverage: Nationally broadcast on NBC. Sirius XM 93.
Record: The all time series including postseason is tied 52-52-1.
What happened last time? The Patriots beat the Jets somewhat handily a few weeks ago, 30-21.
Injury report:
Jets Out: Brodney Pool is listed as Questionable but will not play. Shawn Nelson is questionable. Everyone else will play.
Patriots Out: LB's Brandon Spikes and Dane Fletcher will miss the game. Questionable: Kyle Arrington (CB) foot, Patrick Chung (S) foot, Shaun Ellis (DE) rib, Kevin Faulk (RB) knee, BenJarvus Green-Ellis (RB) toe, Gary Guyton (LB) shoulder, Jerod Mayo (LB) knee, Taylor Price (WR) hamstring, Sebastian Vollmer (T) back, Ryan Wendell (C) concussion.
Rankings
Offense: The Jets are 28th in overall offense, 11th in points, 22nd in passing and 25th in rushing. NE is 2nd in yards, 5th in points, 1st passing and 16th in rushing.
Defense: The Jets are 7th overall, 6th against the pass, and 21st against the rush. New England is 32nd overall, 32nd against the pass, and 9th against the run.
If you ask me this is a must win game. Jets can still win a playoff berth or even the division if they lose, but the rest of the season will be an uphill battle. Conversely, a win over the Pats puts them on the fast track for the division with a super soft schedule for most of the rest of the way. A win means they will make the playoffs, a loss means they will be one of those middle of the pack teams that struggles to make the playoffs and loses to teams with good QB's. Jets have demonstrated over the past couple of years that being one of those teams will get you far but not all of the way. If you want to be a winner, you need to beat a winner. You need to at least split with your greatest rival, or you are second rate. I feel it is far and away the most crucial of the remaining games.
Patriot(s) to watch: The entire backfield
Last meeting, the Pats tried and were fairly successful in keeping us honest by balancing out their offensive attack. The Giants showed last week that if you put on enough pressure and shut down the running game, Brady and friends will have trouble keeping pace, even against a mediocre secondary.
If they can capture the Giants formula of shutting the team down up front then imagine how our top rated secondary could carve up the Pats? Every week someone jumps on my back for saying it, but there is nothing desirable about our rushing defense. Rushing defense is a huge part of why we lost last time. Rushing offense and defense has picked up and is improving, but until the Jets start getting out of the bottom half of those two categories you cannot reasonably expect to beat your rival with the #1 offense in the league.
In the secondary keep your eyes on CB Kyle Arrington, who has been both a good tackler and quite the ball hawk this year. Arrington is beatable, but I expect him to be the biggest threat at intercepting any errant throws Sanchez may toss his way.
Jets X-factor: Shonn Greene
On the flip side of the ball, similar improvements must be made in order to win. I don't think this is any time to let up on the running game. With Mangold back at 100% health we can give another shot at running it down their throat. A successful day from Greene and Tomlinson would be half of the battle in opening up the passing game. It's as simple as that. If we run well enough against the Pats to open up their consistently worst ranked pass defense I just don't see how we could lose this thing.
Potential Jets MVP: Dustin Keller
As bad as the Pats passing defense has been, they are far and away their weakest at the more balanced positions of LB and Safety, especially this week due to injury. If by some stroke of luck Chung is out on top of their battered Linebacker corps, everything will be in place for Keller to have a monster game. All of the power of the Patriots secondary lies in Kyle Arrington and Devin McCourty, who will have their hands more than full with Santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress. If Keller is overly successful and they have to consistently bring help from the secondary, the overall running and passing games of the Jets will benefit. Jeremy Kerley could experience similar success on downs where the Jets drop a receiver in the slot.
Prediction: Jets 30 Patriots 24
Since a strong offensive performance from the Jets is necessary, I'm going to be optimistic and say that we get it. With Mangold back (at 100%) and even just an above-average running game, the Patriots may find a wholly different opponent then the one they faced a few weeks ago. The lack of our best coverage Safety is troublesome, but I'm willing to bet the Jets defense can contain Brady & friends enough to give the offense the opportunity it needs against the overall 32nd ranked defense in the NFL. I will admit I'm uncomfortable with a game where the Jets are favored over the Pats in the opening line, it just seems wrong. The Patriots merely lost to two very good teams. Never underestimate the Patriots ability to pile up points very quickly, but there are several factors that favor the Jets. If the guys in green can pull it together, the Jets will indisputably lead the division with the Pats working from behind the rest of the season. This is critical.
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!
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I will be there leading the charge from my Section calling for Brady’s head. I will be calling for the middle of the field to be blitzkrieged with Keller, Mcknight, and Kerley bombs while the field quakes at the battering ram that is the War Machine.
Let loose the dogs of war tomorrow! Leave nothing on the field but the bodies of our opponents and remains of the Patriots franchise.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
surprising note, apparently Nate Solder is now on the Injury Report with a concussion, he is questionable for the game.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Extra updates
Chung could be a gametime decision, the Pats waved a backup WR in favor of resigning Ventrone. Sounds like Chung could be out, and be a huge help to us.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
I'm not expecting Patrick Chung to play.
With him and Barrett out, NE won’t have either of its top safeties. Ihedigbo, Brown, and Moore will be rotating in there.
Shaun Ellis is truly doubtful no matter how much he wants to play this game at home versus his old team. Brandon Deaderick will be filling in for him at LDE.
Not sure about Guyton at LB. If he doesn’t play it’s either ST-LBs Tracy White or Jeff Tarpinian. Pats got some serious holes on defense.
One thing worth correcting; Nick Mangold DID in fact play last time versus Patriots.
It is what it is
yeah Mangold wasn't exactly 100%, then again it was certainly better than Baxter.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Same thing a Pats fan said about one of his starters
Mangold at 75% (or worse) is better than Baxter, and that’s not a slam on Colin at all. I thought he picked up the game tremendously well for a rookie UDFA who fell into a sticky situation.
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Time to get Even
Jets need to be extremely physical with the Pats.We need to dominate both lines of scrimage. Rough up their timing on pass plays, and stuff their runs. Hit Brady and drive him to the turf.. The more physical team will win on sunday night. Also, i feel that we cannot afford to turn the ball over . the Pats have been turning it over and losing, they will surely get that straightened out this game,and has probably been emphasized in their preparation. We should run the ball down their throat, and unleash Maybin and Kenrick on Brady. Try to knock the snot out of him every time he drops back to pass. I hope by midnite tomorrow, we are sitting atop the AFC East. Go JETS!
well
Jets need to be extremely physical with the Pats.We need to dominate both lines of scrimage.
i realy will just be fine with a win. but i get yyour point
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Jets are going to get physical and beat down NE.
Our offense will move up and down on them all day long. Their supposedly good against the run….who cares. They are getting knocked off the ball all day. Santonio, keller, greene and sanchez are due for big games. On defense….MAYHEM!!!! We will not purposely allow them to run the ball this time around, and our corners are going to get physical with those wimps. Revis on welker, Wilson on Branch, Cromartie on the TEs/ Ocho. Dominate the time of possession, Hit brady, play ahead and we’ll win big. 31-17 JETS!
Jets/Pats > Ravens/Steelers
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for physical slugfests, but Jets/Pats just takes it to another level in terms of “this time it’s personal”.
by Exystence on Nov 13, 2011 10:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
in the last few years, Ravens/Steelers definitely had the bigger fight longer
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
by Noble_Lance on Nov 13, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
rex'd
Great post as always, Bro.
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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Momentum has shifted!
Just as in a game, momentum has shifted to our side—and we must take advantage and win this game! Monster statement game for now and the future of AFC East.
anyone else feel...
like this has been the looooooooooooooooonnngggesssst week of the season? man i cant wait til tommorow night, just seems like every minute is dragging, lol, i am amped up and ready for it…hopefully the Jets will finally stake thier claim as the team to beat in the East.
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
that's because its been too damn quiet from the Jets camp.
Which actually scares me the most. They are on a winning streak and aren’t talking… which either means they are really effing serious, or something is wrong.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
by Noble_Lance on Nov 12, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Both sides staff has been super respectful to the other releatively speaking
it’s been really eerie the past few days.
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yep..
I havent heard much of anything besides Rex saying this is like Ali-Frazier and Belicheck saying that the Jets are a good football team…maybe i was just anticipating alot of trash talk, at least something from Cro aimed at Brady or Bart Scott saying something about thier Defense…I did hear that Wes Welker has already whined to the refs about how physical Revis is tho :)
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
Personally I'm glad
I think this game is too critical to waste time engaging in trash talk.
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I think it's because they are serious
This game goes beyond trash talk, imo. What else is there to be said that hasn’t been said already. There is a task at hand and it needs to be accomplished. Now, if the Jets were being uber complementary, then I’d be worried:)
Last time they pushed us around
I hope Rex is replaying the tape of the final Pats drive over and over and showing the D how the Pats disrespected them. We need to come out fired up and punch these bitches from Boston in their mouths. Let’s do this!
by J-Nasty on Nov 13, 2011 8:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Time to take this thing
We cannot, we must not, let them take what we want in our house.
Sir, Our math shows that the bird is equal to or GREATER THEN the word. CHECK IT AGAIN!!!!
by statusquo on Nov 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions

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