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A Few League-Wide Thoughts

DENVER, CO - OCTOBER 30:  Linebacker Stephen Tulloch #55 of the Detroit Lions reacts by "Tebowing" after making a sack on quarterback Tim Tebow #15 of the Denver Broncos during the first quarter at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on October 30, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. (Photo by Justin Edmonds/Getty Images)

Cowboys

-Rob Ryan thinks he'll be a head coach soon, he more or less said as much within 24 hours of taking personal responsibility for the 34-7 blowout of Dallas by Philadelphia. Brother Bob says his days as an assistant are numbered, and that his accomplishments will make Rex's pale in comparison.

I like Rob, but he also said that he couldn't think of another HC who has made back to back AFC Championship appearances (there are several, including some eventual winners). Rob's bold declaration of future promotion contrasts with his teams performance right now. The timing just seems off.

Broncos

We could really benefit from Tim Tebow staying at the helm of this team for a few more weeks until they face the Jets. Kyle Orton can and will do much more damage than Tebow ever could. While unlikely, it's not impossible for Tebow to make it that far as a starter, he would have to survive two weeks of AFC West Rivals Raiders and Chiefs. I'm not optimistic just from watching him the past two weeks, but that game will be a gift if Tebow is still under center.

Patriots

Did Belichick really benefit all that much from cutting Leigh Bodden? You have the worst secondary in the league by far, I don't see how your team gets any better by cutting the one guy that has had a good season in the past few years. Yeah, Bodden had tremendous downside, and missed all of last year, but what better do they have? Dowling just went to IR. Their only remaining corners with experience are Devin McCourty and the oft-banged up Kyle Arrington, who together account for the starting components of the worst passing defense in the league.The Pats are two injuries away from an all-practice squad secondary.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind. I just don't see the logic in pairing down when you're neck and neck for leading the division with Buffalo and New York. Especially when you have nothing to supplement it with but untested UDFA's.

We need the Pats bottom ranked defense to lead them to an implosion the next few weeks versus ourselves, the Giants, the Eagles, and possibly even the Chiefs because after that the Pats schedule gets soft as a puppy and they WILL win out with Brady under center. Unless we can beat them, the Pats will walk into another division title like cake.

The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy

We need the AFC North to go down in flames in a big way. As it stands right now The Bengals Ravens and Steelers are all in prime position for a playoff seed. I expect the Bengals to take care of themselves as they have to meet Baltimore, Houston, and Pittsburgh twice still. That will be too much for a team led by a rookie QB-WR tandem.

I hate to say it but the Steelers winning out could actually benefit us and knock The Ravens Bengals and Chiefs right out of the hunt. It's a troublesome trade off, as it means there will likely be at least two great QB's in the playoffs in Brady and Roethlisberger. But if the Steelers do their work, and the Jets can sweep the Bills, that takes almost every wild card competitor out of the equation. The AFC West will mostly eliminate itself as the Chargers and Chiefs schedules get notably more difficult from here on out. Only one team will emerge from the South and West to make the playoffs, leaving us in prime position. But it's going to take a lot of wins from both the Jets and Pittsburgh to clear that field out.

What recent events around the league do you feel impact the Jets season the most?

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I think the Giants/Pats game is going to be big for us.

I want the Pats to lose but at the same time I fear what BB will do with a possible 3game losing streak to division rival as an away team. Miami needs to start doing something good and beating the Bills this season, I know they don’t have the potential but they need to. And the Bills need to sweep the Pats.

KC still doesn’t impress me Rivers gave that game away.

And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald

by Noble_Lance on Nov 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

KC's road record the last 2 years

5-7 (total record 14-9). I’m not too worried about a home game against the Chiefs. The next 2 games are absolutely key. If we can somehow win them, we get Denver, Buffalo (at home on long rest), Washington and KC. Not the hardest stretch.

by Buzzy on Nov 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I think we can own their running game easily so it comes down to covering their WRs

And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald

by Noble_Lance on Nov 1, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a great feeling that our jets will swoop in and take the division.

I think the jets win this game vs buffalo and a big win by the giants in foxboro. Leaving a three way tie for 1st where we play out our house for 1st place. I doubt the jets let that oppurtunity slip away like last year.

by jets4life24 on Nov 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Man... basically it all comes down to one thing:

We need to win out. The Pats could still win the division if we do, which is sickening, but that’s the hole we dug for ourselves. We essentially have the same schedule left which isn’t comforting at all.

Also I think everyone’s taking it for granted that we’re gonna beat Buffalo. Man, I don’t know about you guys but I’m pretty damn worried about going up against them. Frankly I may be more worried about them than I am the Pats. They’ve got that total wildcard feel about them, I have no idea what they might throw at us on offense and their defense is very opportunistic. If we come out flat against them after this bye week I fear that our season might be ruined.

by Exystence on Nov 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Totally agree.

Although do you really think everyone’s taking it for granted that we’re gonna beat Buffalo? I’ve been banking on splitting the series myself. I don’t think they’re as good as they’re being given credit for but they’re definitely not a bad team either.

Plus, division games are always tougher anyway.

If the offense that showed up after last season’s bye week shows up, we can probably start discussing the draft instead of the playoffs.

by cult hero on Nov 1, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Jets win out, they win the division as far as I can tell. They would hold a tiebreaker over the Pats (division record) if they won all their games excepting the one with the Jets and the Jets win out.

by Tim Sullivan on Nov 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed

regardless of what the Pats do-if the Jets win the next 2 they are alone in first by tiebreakers because the Pats will have 2 East losses.

by Buzzy on Nov 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just responding to Exystence's point

not suggesting it is realistic or needs to happen.

by Buzzy on Nov 1, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, going 5-3 down the stretch is not likely to win the wildcard spot.

To win the rest of the games or to go 8-1 would probably be needed to win the division.

by CervezaVerde on Nov 1, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty big if

failing that or if Buffalo takes it (nod to our friend here), the wild card race is currently very crowded.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
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by Bro Namath on Nov 2, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Pats implosion would be great

Then we could slug it out with Buff for the division. Buffalo is gonna come at us hard though. They recall some of the beatings we’ve given them over the last few years. In particular, the Jets played all backups last year and still crushed them. Joe McKnight rushed for 158 yds, LDT 133 yds and Greene had 117 yds in two games last year. In 2009, Thomas Jones rushed for 319 yards in two games.

I’m sure that Buffalo wants to set the record straight.

by CervezaVerde on Nov 1, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Do the Pats implode though?

I mean, when was the last time that happened? Even losing Brady didn’t lead to an implosion.

by cult hero on Nov 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst stretch they have had

in the last 5 years was losing 3 out of 4 in 2010 (with the only win in that stretch against the Jets).

by Buzzy on Nov 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s hilarious that you don’t think it’s significant that the Bills actually lead the division ahead of the Jets (given that your only mention of the Bills is the assumption that the Jets will sweep them).

The Bills are 5-2 and:
The combined record of the Bills’ opponents right now: 29-20.
The combined record of the teams the Bills have beaten: 19-16.
The combined record of the teams the Bills have lost to: 10-4.

On the other hand, the Jets are 4-3 and:
The combined record of the Jets’ opponents right now: 23-27.
The combined record of the teams the Jets have beaten: 9-20.
The combined record of the teams the Jets have lost to: 14-7.

So far the Jets have only beaten one team with a winning record (San Diego), and San Diego has only beaten one team with a winning record (KC).

For any Jets fan to think the game this week against the Bills (in Buffalo) is going to be a sure win is laughable.

Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!

by thefourwinds on Nov 1, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Add to this that the Bills’ only 2 losses were on the road, and both by 3 points on last-minute FGs.

Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!

by thefourwinds on Nov 1, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, how long were you waiting to post that here with an indignant attitude?

being that all I said at the end was “if Pittsburgh can win out and the Jets can sweep the Bills”.

The teams I mentioned that somehow caused you to be affronted? The Cowboys, Broncos, and Patriots. Yeah, because the BRONCOS and COWBOYS are huge threats to the Jets playoff hopes. (rolling eyes).

Work on reading comprehension before you talk about our behavior being laughable.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Nov 1, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what you said:


What recent events around the league do you feel impact the Jets season the most?

I think that the Bills, the Jets next opponent, leading the division, having defeated the Pats already, are pretty significant. Apparently you don’t.

Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!

by thefourwinds on Nov 1, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think your assumptions are hilarious

I don’t think the Jets will sweep Buffalo, I think it’s what needs to happen for us to make a playoff berth.

Honestly I don’t see how or why you made half of these leaps or what your attitude is all about, but take this garbage somewhere else. I mentioned three teams specifically in headers, including the division leading Patriots. You’re just looking for trouble, troll.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
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by Bro Namath on Nov 1, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow champ

How you managed to jump on a bunch of “If we beat” and turn that into a don’t respect buffalo and than post some statistics to back up the argument that you have been working on shows how scared you are. And why would you be worried about the 5 – 2 bills?
maybe…
Because they beat a KC team (which now shows up as a winning record) when they were playing quite possibley the worst football in the entire league. They lost the following week by an even larger margin.
Then you went into Oakland and had a great comeback following a first half blowout.
Then you did the same thing to the Pats comeback following blowout.
Then you lost to the Bengals. (do you consider the bengals a good team?)
Then you beat an eagles team that couldn’t get out of their own way while amasing a 1-4 record over the first 5 weeks.
Then you lost to a Giants team that really isn’t very good.
And you dominated a Washington team that is in last place in the NFC East.

But you’re right… for a Jets fan to think the Jets can win is just “hilarious”

P.S. Thanks for Maybin. Making sacks for the Jets while cashing checks from the Bills.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Nov 1, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you’re right… for a Jets fan to think the Jets can win is just "hilarious"

Read what I said:

For any Jets fan to think the game this week against the Bills (in Buffalo) is going to be a sure win is laughable.

Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!

by thefourwinds on Nov 1, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

who said sure win

ANYWHERE here? I see things above like “worried,” “splitting the series,” etc. I think you have some weird issues…

by Buzzy on Nov 1, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the beginning, what I was commenting on was that this post (the post, not the comments) about “significant league-wide events that impact the Jets” had absolutely no mention of the Bills (the next Jets opponent) actually being the leader in the AFC East. I would say that’s a league-wide event that impacts the Jets. And the only time the Bills were mentioned in the post was to offhandedly say if the Jets sweep the Bills, then they can get on to worrying about bigger things, like the Pats.

For the record, then: I think the fact that the Bills, who the Jets have to play on Sunday, lead the AFC East after week 8 is significant league-wide event that impacts the Jets.

Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!

by thefourwinds on Nov 1, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^^Oops. Anyway I have to hand it to you dude, they should bring you in to speak to the team to motivate them. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone search so hard for an insult in an offhand comment. Gotta hand it to you.

by Exystence on Nov 1, 2011 10:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get it either

I never said anything close to “significant league-wide events that impact the Jets”, he’s just making crap up. All this post says is “thoughts”. Any post not mentioning the Bills on this site, and there are many, are just as suspect but for some reason he takes umbrage.

Here’s the kicker: Every specifically mentioned team that got a header, all three of them, is a team with problems. Not once did I mention records or who leads what. Two out of the three teams aren’t competing for the playoffs and are messes.

Don’t know if I’ve ever seen anyone so hell bent on taking issue. Or someone who so thoroughly puts words in other peoples mouths. Instead of arbitrarily telling us what our articles are or should be about, how about writing a post about your gripes, maybe on a Buffalo Bills fan blog. I hear they may have one of those on SBN.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Nov 2, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

a Buffalo Bills fan blog. I hear they may have one of those on SBN.

Yes – a quality one I might add.

I never said anything close to "significant league-wide events that impact the Jets"

Really? What else do you mean by the question you ended your post with?

What recent events around the league do you feel impact the Jets season the most?

Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!

by thefourwinds on Nov 2, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

And your recent event is "The Bills are really good"

Well, no crap.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Nov 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to apologize to every competing team in the league for the 29-team snub.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
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by Bro Namath on Nov 2, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is every other team in the Jets’ division? Does every other team have 2 games against the Jets left this season?

Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!

by thefourwinds on Nov 2, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? What are you I don’t even…

Go away.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Nov 2, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love if CIN did just enough to knock the Ravens out of contention

The West is too muddled to really get a clear idea of who is a contender, that said, I think KC takes the division and everyone else misses the playoffs(SD has a tough road ahead and Oak has more than a few questions at QB) The South is all Houston(Jax and Tenn won’t be able to continuously win to grab a WC) I think sweeping the Bills is our surest way to grab the WC, but we have to beat the Pats, which would have us contending for the division title owning tiebreaks over both. But I do believe the Bills are our stiffest competition for a WC so we must take care of them before anything else.

by Melrenee on Nov 1, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Bills are scarey! And it's offense!

Buffalo is hungry. The offense is talented. But the defense is vulnerable. Our biggest problem is sleep-walking after a bye week. If we do—disaster.

Can you get your spelling right: defense and offense. Forget about those dumb signs in the stands.

by Timxing on Nov 2, 2011 5:16 AM EDT reply actions  

what the hell are you talking about?

No offense is mentioned anywhere in this article, nor was it intended to be.

The only defense mentioned is the NE Pats defense. And that’s exactly what I meant, defense.

Problem?

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Nov 2, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mentioned defense four times, each time in reference to the Pats defense

nowhere is it spelled wrong either.

Someone needs help with reading comprehension.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Nov 2, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

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