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The Jets are back to .500. Tonight's 24-6 win over the Dolphins at the Meadowlands got New York back to 3-3. The schedule gets tougher from here in the short term. Based on what we saw from Miami, there is no way it could get easier. Simply put, the Jets got the right opponent at the right time. This was a good team to get healthy against because an imperfect effort like this still resulted in a blowout win.

More under the jump.

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The Good:

Darrelle Revis: This was not vintage Revis. In fact, it is about as badly as I have seen a healthy Revis play since the Monday game in Miami two years ago. With that said, bad Revis is better than good almost anybody else. The Dolphins completed less than half of the passes in Darrelle's direction. Brandon Marshall got him a few times as badly as anybody I have ever seen get Revis. The Dolphins also could have completed more passes. No matter what, he finished with two interceptions. The pick and the 100 yard touchdown returns in the first quarter could not have been bigger. The Dolphins seemed on the verge of landing an early knockout blow. The ESPN crew was screaming for a flag, but it sure looked to me like Marshall just lost his footing and fell into Revis near a spot in the field where a lot of guys seemed to be losing their balance.

Kyle Wilson: We did not even hear Davone Bess' name until garbage time.

Jim Leonhard: He led the Jets with 7 tackles. He forced a fumble. Most important, though, was when he saved his teammates' bacon with a shoestring tackle on Daniel Thomas as Thomas was about to bounce outside and walk into the end zone for a potential 10-0 Miami lead. Later in that drive came the Revis interception.

Wayne Hunter: The late sack to Koa Misi is on him. It will count on his stats, but the game was over by that point. He committed a penalty. He ends up with the good, though, because he stonewalled one of the best pass rushers in the game, Cameron Wake, with little help. Really, Hunter has played pretty well the last four games after a brutal first two. It is time for people to let up.

Mark Sanchez: Sanchez looked off early. He missed a few throws. It was not all his fault. His receivers were not open on a lot of those throws, and the playcalling bordered on the bizarre at times. He eventually found his rhythm. He finished 14 of 25 for 201 yards and a touchdown. He did not make any ill advised throws while the game was in doubt. There were also at least three passes other passes that hit receivers in the hands. You have to love that he spread the ball out to seven receivers. The audible to the quarterback draw on his rushing touchdown showed great recognition. The Jets finally gave their receivers a chance to make some plays, calling some long developing routes and taking shots down the field. Mark is at his best when he is on the move and can find guys down the field. It should not have taken so long for the Jets to challenge this defense, but it worked when they did.

Offensive Line Pass Blocking: I already mentioned Hunter because he had the toughest job, but Sanchez had all day to throw, and the receivers had all day to get open.

Santonio Holmes: 3 catches, 63 yards, and a great run after the catch for a touchdown.

Plaxico Burress as a Blocker: One thing Plax is doing well is blocking. He was good helping the run and threw a key block on the Holmes touchdown.

Dustin Keller: Didn't see much action, but 2 catches for 51 yards equals big plays.

Joe McKnight on Offense: Why we cannot see more of him on offense I do not know, but he had 2 catches for 29 yards splitting wide.

John Conner: Threw some key blocks on successful runs.

Antonio Cromartie: The one Brandon Marshall completion was brutal. He cannot keep getting burned like that. The receiver will only stupidly run out of bounds with open field in front of him maybe once a year. Aside from that, Cro was solid in coverage and had a big pass defensed in the end zone on Marshall.

Kenrick Ellis: The legend begins. He held up well, and man the big guy can move to the ball.

Jeremy Kerley: It might not have looked impressive on the stat sheet, but he had a key third down reception to extend a first half drive. That was also New York's first first down of the game. The offense seemed to relax from that point and looked much better.

TJ Conley: He hit some rockets. His long was 63, and the Jets got three inside the 20.

Marquice Cole: Was in on two tackles to pin Miami deep on kickoff coverage.

Calvin Pace: Very good against the run. Was one of the few Jets to do anything rushing the passer early. Finished with 7 tackles and 2 sacks.

Aaron Maybin: Still a one trick pony. Ran himself out of some plays, but forced 2 fumbles, had a sack and a hit. If nothing else, you have to love his hustle.

Nick Folk: Easy kicks, but he made all 3 PAT's and a chip shot field goal. He also was solid on kickoffs and got it deep enough to set up the coverage units to do well.

Marcus Dixon: He was probably the best pass rusher the Jets had all game. He was constantly getting pressure to Matt Moore.

The Bad:

Brian Schottenheimer: It took him too long to call plays that suited Sanchez's strengths. Some of the early calls defied description. There was the run to the weak side where there was nobody blocking. There was the direct snap to the running back throwback to the quarterback. There was the fake screen one way, screen the other way. Why can he not design the offense to suit his young quarterback?

Shonn Greene: I'm officially on the both the line and running back are to blame for the run game's struggles bandwagon. Greene had some carries where he had no chance, but he also had some running lanes where he cut the wrong way and cost himself yardage. There are times he tries to run the guy over where he should bounce outside and times he bounces outside when he should cut in.

Joe McKnight on Special Teams: That was ugly. He lost one fumble by not running up to the ball and directing his blockers out of the way. There easily could have been two others on punt returns. It is time to get him off the punt team.

Plaxico Burress as Receiver: On an offense that spreads the ball out, stats do not always tell the story. I don't like the way Plax is running routes, though. His timing still seems off.

Garrett McIntyre/John Conner on the Muffed Kickoff: McKnight is to blame, but these guys need to have better awareness of where the ball is. Three guys were at fault on that one.

Antonio Cromartie on Brandon Marshall's 46 Yard Reception: We can't just ignore how brutal the coverage was, can we?

Jamaal Westerman: Failed to set the edge on the first play of the game for Miami. That resulted in a big Reggie Bush run. He was quiet the rest of the way until a garbage time sack.

Mike Devito/Muhammad Wilkerson/Sione Pouha/David Harris/Bart Scott: Miami ran it 4.7 yards per carry, and too frequently it looked like the Jets were getting blown off the ball and missing tackles. Not a good performance by the run defenders. I am not sure Rex Ryan would admit it, but it sure felt like Pouha was benched for Kenrick Ellis for a stretch.

Other Thoughts:

  • Props to GGN member  ___key for predicting Revis' pick six before it happened.
  • Throwing at Revis like Miami kept doing is asking for trouble.
  • I never understood why Miami hired Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator. I still don't.
  • It looks like the Jets are starting to get LaDainian Tomlinson more involved with the run game. Greene has clearly been a disappointment. In his old age, LT is only productive for a few carries. Might I suggest giving some to Joe McKnight?
  • This was a good opponent for the Jets to work out some of the kinks. The first half was brutal at times. Against most opponents, they would have been in deep trouble. Miami came at the right time of the season.
  • On the other hand, this takes a ton of tension away. In baseball you frequently see a weak infield single to get a hitter out of a slump. The hitter relaxes even though he did not hit the ball hard. Hopefully that happens here.
  • Holmes sticking the ball out the way he did before reaching the end zone on the touchdown is just begging to get stripped.

It could have been better, but we cannot be too picky after the last month. The Jets are back in the win column. San Diego is next and then the bye. If the Jets can finally deliever a big performance, they can feel good about themselves heading into their week off.

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Is it me...

or did we seem to run the ball more effectively when having the terminator in the game? want to know what people think about that or if anyone noticed the same thing

by john_146 on Oct 18, 2011 12:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Gotta give him credit, though

He was about the one guy in America who thought Hunter could handle Wake.

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by John B on Oct 18, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Hunter can keep it up

I recall Slauson struggling his first two games then we stopped hearing his name. Now he is actually considered good.

by CervezaVerde on Oct 18, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hunter's now playing at the level he was the end of last season

with the other four guys on our line, that’s plenty good enough.

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by John B on Oct 18, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

slauson

is quietly having himself an excellent season. i actually think he;s been the jets best o-lineman this yr by far

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Oct 18, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I swear to god, I;s watching the game with my friend, and I tell him:

“Man, a pick six sure would be great right about now”

Next play…

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by Ryan Alfieri on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

If I were Tanny

I would give Maybin a 1-year extension tonight. He is the definition of Designated Pass Rusher.

Prediction: Kenrick Ellis will be starting at NT over Sione Pouha by the end of the year.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Oct 18, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't need to but I saw Ellis break through the line and charge into the secondary

tackle a guy for a lose.

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Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Oct 18, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

but I could see them rotating

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by Bro Namath on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with both...

Maybin is having great games, and is going to wind up being a huge steal for us.

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by Judgegavel on Oct 18, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

haters gonna hate

we set up the building blocks for this team to look respectable again.

by NYJALLFINGDAY on Oct 18, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it's possible but so is 6-3

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by Judgegavel on Oct 18, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw them. This makes the jets breathe easier.

If we can get extended drives early in the game, and start faster, our lives would be easier. Miami really struggled to stop us when we got rolling. The run game was active but there were two penalties that killed great runs by L.T and Greene. Short week, lets beat down San Diego.

by jets4life24 on Oct 18, 2011 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Biggest thing I noticed from the game was Maybin. He was at the tunnel when the players were coming out for warmups cheering on his teammates, and continued to do so throughout the warmups. He was the one guy I saw really going out of his way for that. In addition, even the plays when he ran right out of the play, he was one of the few lineman to really get that burst off the ball. It’s pretty clear now that I have a mancrush on Maybin, but I thought he did very very well tonight.

Oh, and I loved seeing Ellis with that tackle.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 18, 2011 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

I want Maybin to succeed so bad, I love seeing 51 come up and pop a ball loose

by NYJALLFINGDAY on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. He has the physical talent like Gholston, but he really wants it. It’s pretty clear that he’s hustling every play, unlike Gholston.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll take what we can get.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love that Rex calls him "crazyman"

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 18, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

You see the locker room video too?

He was right across from LT in the home of the Jets chant, he’s bought in 100%

by NYJALLFINGDAY on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha really? Never heard that one.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like “Maybach” since Rex has said before that he’s a luxury.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 18, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta give some props to the Defense

While Miami busted out a few big runs in the first half, we held them to 2 field goals and had 5 forced fumbles and 2 interceptions. The defense in the red zone was simply outstanding.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Lots of positives. Offense wasn't too predictable for once.

Other guys were getting involved too. Defense played well, but the run killed us early. Maybin is a fumble machine, and plays with alot of hustle. westerman held his own vs Long but is a little weak in the run game. A win is a win. I’ll take 4-3 going into the bye.

by jets4life24 on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Schotty being Schotty

I don’t get it, he goes from the same 3 plays over and over to wild gadget play with no chance of working.

by Melrenee on Oct 18, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call on Dixon

He is quietly doing some great work on the field.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

If...

The second half offense can ever just be present for a whole game, we’re in good shape.

by cult hero on Oct 18, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone sitting near me on the direct snap was so confused, NOBODY knew what the hell was going on. One of the worst plays I’ve ever seen called. And that screen across the body was so insanely stupid as well.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't see that when it happened

Totally buried under work, but when I did on the highlights, I was like what the hell was that, Schotty? It’s like he can’t help himself, he has to do something utterly befuddling to everyone involved. Awful, awful play that I hope to never see again.

by Melrenee on Oct 18, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts

Revis is great, Wilson is well on his way there, and Cromartie is meh.

Did not miss Donald Strickland one stitch.

It seems like the less I see Eric Smith the better.

Pouha was active a lot of the game, and Ellis was active the most when the Jets were clearly ahead. Although Pouha’s two tackles might support your notions.

Plaxico Burress is too told to stretch the field or get decent separation. His ability to reel it in has been questionable at best. But I do agree that he’s matched or exceeded Edwards in blocking.

All my concerns about McKnight and ball security are reawakened. Maybe that’s why they’ve given him relatively little time on offense so far this season.

Sanchez plays well when his OC isn’t holding him back.

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by Bro Namath on Oct 18, 2011 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Plax has looked slow all year

and no one seems to mention it. He occasionally can out position guys for the ball. But his speed is scaring no one. He has a fridge on his back, and has definitely left some of his speed in the clink. It’s inarguable.

by David G on Oct 18, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was so mad after the 1st QTR

I actually punched my desk. I was surprised how Shotty was able to put Mark in a situation to get in a groove. It was almost like a switch was flipped. Shotty has once again gotten a stay of execution. A slow start like this one, next week, could kill us though.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Oct 18, 2011 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it's just me but

When the Jets lose, I see Rex and Sanchez post game pressers on constant loop on SC and tonight when I actually wanted to see them after a win, nowhere to be found. Not cool ESPN.

by Melrenee on Oct 18, 2011 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I'm with you...

I just turned on Mike and Mike and Chris Carter was saying he is doubting Sanchez’s progress. I turned that crap off. But Trent and Steve were saying the same thing last night. That guy never gets any props.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Oct 18, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

Won’t always be smooth sailing with a young QB but as long as he’s not compulsively turning the ball over and still making plays, the other things will come in time, he’ll be fine.

by Melrenee on Oct 18, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's kinda turning the ball over alot and kinda not making plays

11 TDs to 5 INTs. But how many fumbles/Ints returned for TDs? How about just in the Balt. game? He’s not young anymore.

by CervezaVerde on Oct 18, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

What gets me is no one talks about Josh Freeman when he plays like crap

They just like to bring up his “amazing” 4th Qtr comebacks.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Oct 18, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has more ints than TDs this year

But I don’t seem to hear much about that. Whatever,

by Melrenee on Oct 18, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 years in the league is still considered young to me

Baltimore game had horrid protection from the line so I’m not sure that’s a great litmus test for his progress. Let’s just see how he does going forward, still a few games to play.

by Melrenee on Oct 18, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I put them on mute

11TDs(9 pass, 2 rush) to 5 ints. Could he do better, sure, but not really a ton to be upset about. But as they are so fond of saying around here:Haters gonna hate. What can you do?

by Melrenee on Oct 18, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were right about some things.

Sanchez still has happy feet in the pocket. It’s one thing to scramble and go through your progressions, but you have to take that moment to set your feet before you throw. That’s why some of those drops were drops – the ball was off. The QB’s accuracy suffers because of it. And that horrible pass that sailed over Burress head which could have been a TD is another example. After 3 years that’s an indictment of the QB coach (Cavanaugh), the OC (BS) and Sanchez. And Rex as the HC can’t escpae his share of the blame either.

by Traveling Man on Oct 18, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not good Revis?

I think you have to factor in the 20 yard catch by Marshall was a blatant PI by him. It was an obvious push off. But the good news is, allowing them to play physical set up the big pick. If they let the first non-call happen, they had to let the pick go. That’s what idiots like Gruden don’t get. They were being consistent with two physical players.

by David G on Oct 18, 2011 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

Those two were really fighting. Let them play for crying out loud.

Even with that said, I still don’t think the pick was PI at all, despite what shit-for-brains Gruden kept parroting. Marshall hit him and I think tripped, but I couldn’t tell. They didn’t call PI because Revis kept his eyes on the ball and not on the receiver.

by cult hero on Oct 18, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I pretty much agree

I’ve seen that same play called for illegal contact, but Revis was the only guy looking at the qb, and as you said, Marshall ran directly into him and initiated contact. Marshall never made a move anywhere near the pass, so it was a good non-call imo.

by David G on Oct 18, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha.

Well, the whining Fish fans are over crying about how Revis gets away for PI all the time because the NFL likes him or something.

Suck that. I love beating the Patriots, but I love beating Fish fans more than beating the team. Wankers.

by cult hero on Oct 18, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

he does

we were discussing it on the other thread. but its like the jordan rules. the stars get the calls. i certainly dont mind

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Oct 18, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

ALOT to CORRECT STILL !

After watching a game that we should have walked away with anyway , I noticed that Cro ,Lenohard , and Sanchez need to get their heads out of their asses and concentrate on making the play ! Cro gets burn’t too often , Jimmy misses tackles and Sanchez misses open recievers. I can bet my bottom dollar that Brady would have picked up Keller wide open in the end zone. Don’t get me wrong , cause I wear No. 6 myself at gametime , but don’t press and look the whole field over. There was adequate time tonight. Missed tackles are killing us on D . Play through the play ! Bring on the Bolts ! J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS !!!!!!!!

by bleedinggreen41 on Oct 18, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

i was gonna shoot someone

due to missed tackles. what the heck was the deal with that???

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Oct 18, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed on everything jb except for plax run blocking

i still think he blocked him in the back.. either way, was i the only one who noticed that espn’s cameras sucked tonight. they came back to the play late a few times and had lots of issues w/ replays……

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I noticed that as well

Bad angles to start a few plays off. They missed one play completely and never did a replay. Twice they went to shots of the secondary when it was a run. Bad, bad, bad.

by CervezaVerde on Oct 18, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we got rid of guys one year too early

with S Ellis and Price I dont think every RB and his mother turns up the corner or avg 4.5+ ypc
with TRich and Woody maybe we could avg4.5+ypc
with JCo and BEd Sanchez would be in sync with his WRs

and kept one guy a year too long…SCHOTTY!!!!!

Just a thought

by george JETson on Oct 18, 2011 2:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree on most counts...

JCo being the only one. He didn’t want to be here anymore.

Edwards > Plax

Schotty… must… go.

by cult hero on Oct 18, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

J Co should be the number 2 receiver on this team. Ellis and Pryce wouldn’t make that much of a diffeence in the run. T Rich couldn’t help since he would barely be on the field much like Connor. Woody is likely STILL recovering from his injury. Edwards is a head case and was not gonna sign with the Jets for Plax’s $3 mill. But yes, Schotty does suck.

by CervezaVerde on Oct 18, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good writeup

Im starting to see a trend here with the Jets, we always start off so slow and sluggish that we are basically playing catch up all game, now i think maybe it has to do with Shottys 20 scripted plays, they dont seem to work and it doesnt matter because he sticks to them until he runs out of them, then he starts shooting from the hip and our Offense looks decent…maybe Shotty just needs to wing it from here on out and forget all his over analyzing crap he does, we are much more effective that way

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by AFCxxBEAST on Oct 18, 2011 3:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Scripted plays or not

Sanchez is too often getting a pass for poor play. He is missing on too many crucial plays that could extend a drive.

by CervezaVerde on Oct 18, 2011 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I loved the part where

Gruden says, before the play is off, “Conner in motion, we all know he’s going to line up as a FB and block for Greene…..and…..he does”.

Our plays are so predictable…..even the ones that Shotty tries to make “unpredictable”…..I told my brother last night that he was going to try to go deep once early (which he did), was going to try a stupid fake end around or bootleg or something stupid (which he did).

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by CharlieIsles on Oct 18, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

When a FB is lined up as a FB everyone knows he’s going to block for the RB because that’s his job. I hated that stupid trick play Schotty put in but I see why he did it. He wanted to wake up the offense and get things rolling. I guess a deep pass wasn’t a good option with the way Mark was throwing the ball in the 1st QTR.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Oct 18, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I did say the call was stupid.

My “wake up” explanation was just my way of trying to explain Schotty’s “GENIUS”.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

John B you are 99% spot on with your analysis BUT....

you cannot put Cro in the “Good” column. You just can’t. Ever.

Specifically for this game, he got twisted up by Marshall as you pointed out, but I think further analysis is needed. It wasn’t like the Branch play last week where there was a designed cut back to the outside. Moore was scrambling for his life and Cro, instead of locking his responsibility down, was just watching the pass rush. He might as well have been sitting next to me on the couch with the way he was watching Moore flush out. This is not getting “burned” or however you want to call it. He does get burned sometimes, but that happens to every corner and I won’t criticize him too much for that (although some of his burns are just astoundingly bad). This is just another dumb, low-IQ play that I keep seeing every week from this guy. It is getting embarrassing.

Also, that play in the end zone with Marshall was more of a Moore underthrow than anything else. Yes, Cro did the right thing in beating Marshall to the jump ball, but he was out of position and simply lagging behind Marshall (like he always does because he thinks his athleticism can save him). It didn’t look like he was out of position because of where the ball was incorrectly thrown, but he most certainly was.

He is terrible and Wilson looked ever more the 2CB last night….

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by FrankWhyte on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 AM EDT reply actions  

While you make some interesting points,

I just don’t get all the Cro hate all the time. I mean, hate on him after the Oakland game…..but last night, did you even hear his name mentioned other then the one play where he got burned (ok not a good play) and the one play where he made a pass defense in the end zone (which IMO was a good play. Underthrow or not, he did what he was supposed to do. Good play.)

To me, when you don’t hear a CB’s name throughout the game, it’s a good thing (unless you have a Revis-ian game such as last night).

Having said that, I completely agree Frank with your statement about Wilson. He looks real good this year.

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by CharlieIsles on Oct 18, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dang I basically posted this a little down

Serves me right for not reading before I post lol

by Exystence on Oct 18, 2011 9:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think it's fair to put Greene in the "Bad" category.

I feel like he was more “meh” than anything. Not a hindrance, but not a definite advantage. Our run blocking is definitely thoroughly “meh,” at best. I’m definitely a fan of getting McKnight some more looks, especially on outside tosses and anything that puts him with some space to work with.

I agree that Plax’s blocking was good, and it’s nice to see him still working hard when not getting targeted on pass plays and when running plays are called. He’s not pulling a Randy Moss on us (yet). But signing him was a mistake. He had another pass hit him in the hands after running a lazy route. His catch % on the year stands at 39% BEFORE last night’s game, which was dead last among the top 85 WRs in this league. Holmes might not be having a great year either, but at least he’s catching half the balls thrown his way.

by psuwxman on Oct 18, 2011 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Only thing I disagree with is Cro being on the good side

He was constantly in bad position on almost every ball thrown his way. Brian friggin Hartline was pretty much owning him. Giving him a pass for having a bunch on incompletes thrown his way is wrong because they were mostly on the receiver or QB.

by Exystence on Oct 18, 2011 9:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Funny you should mention Brian Hartline

He’s having a better year, statistically, than Plax in almost every way. One of many WRs around the league who can claim that, actually.

by psuwxman on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Greene.

I’m just not seeing what I need to from him. Even he’s starting to see it too with his reactions on the field. He knows he’s leaving some yards on the field.

Matt Forte anyone?

by Can'tWait on Oct 18, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Err, is he on the block or something?

Not sure I like the trade very much anyway, it gives Schottenheimer even more reason to go short pass dink-n-dunk with the offense.

by Exystence on Oct 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He wants a new deal.

The Bears seem reluctant. There have been some local chicago papers that have reported at least 2 teams showing interest. He’s in the last year of his contract and making around 600,000 grand.

Here is his quote from the Chicago Tribune

 "For me to be out here working as hard as I do and not have a contract extension, you kind of get that feeling of being unappreciated. I just hope that when this year is over and I play as well as I’ve been playing, that if the Bears don’t reward me with a contract, another team will.’’

by Can'tWait on Oct 18, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He wants DeAngelo Williams $$$

Thats 8 Mill per.
If Shotty is the golden child and isn’t going anywhere and Mark is about as good as he’s always going to be whats left to take the offense to the next level?
That kid could turn this whole thing around.
He’s 50% of the bears offense! He averages 10per catch and 4.7 a carry with a truly horrible offensive line.

by Can'tWait on Oct 18, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh btw, no shout out for MTV?

He had a pretty huge beastly stuff at the goal line. I wanna see more of him definitely!

by Exystence on Oct 18, 2011 9:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

btw mea culpa to all those i argued w/ last night saying that the revis int was in fact passing inter

the more and more i look at the replay, the more i think it WAS NOT passing inter. good job fellas (timmaht, cervazerde, wildre22)

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Oct 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

For this game, there should have been a great section with one player in it.

Wayne Hunter. He handled one of the best pass rushers in the league single-handed for the majority of the night. That was simply an amazing turn-around for the O-lines (and team’s) biggest liability. I’m quick on the trigger to bash a guy when deserved, but it should also go the other way.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 18, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Time To Focus

A good and much needed win for the Jets. The time to focus is now. The next 4 weeks will probably decide if they are a post season team. They face a tough Chargers team this weekend at home. I think it is a must win going into the bye week (momentum). After the bye week the Jets will play a high scoring Bills team in Buffalo, return to play rival Pats at home. The Jets have to win 2 out of 3 games to have a chance at a post season berth. There are other teams that have the same or better records with easier schedules during the season. If the Jets lose 2 out of the next 3 games, their chances of making the post season will be slim at best.

by PVS53 on Oct 18, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

The lack of team speed is a problem

We have Plax who looks slow, plus Greene who is plodding. We also have two safeties that a bit slow. On offense, McKnight has to get more touches. Too bad they didn’t make a run at Brandon Lloyd, he was had on the cheap. Also, Kyle Wilson may need to get some chances vs. better receivers, nice job on Bess.

by David G on Oct 18, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

lloyd has no speed either. he is a possession receiver.

plus he would’ve been another mouth to feed. After watching Plax dog it last night, I don’t think adding another receiver who needs targets to be happy would be anything but detrimental to the offense.

"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."

by FrankWhyte on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

"There was the fake screen one way, screen the other way."

My wife has been asking me all week about all the complaints about Schottenmheimer. I specifically used that play, when it happened, as an example of over-thinking and “out-smarting” the opposing D, instead of simply executing your offense.

While we are on the subject, Schotty’s 4th-quarter play-calling—when all we needed were a few first downs—would have gotten us beat against a better team.

Under six minutes left and the Phins got like three more possessions. That’s bad football, big lead or not.

by jkoyon on Oct 18, 2011 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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