Could Jets' Perception Be Contributing to Numerous Penalties?
by Matt Birch on Sep 28, 2010 7:32 AM EDT
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The Jets are a grind-it-out, physical team, and they made it a point to show that on 'Hard Knocks.' HC Rex Ryan is now known as a guy that fields a hard-hitting, smack-talking, team.
Furthermore, with all of the smack talk on 'Hard Knocks,' is it possible that they upset a couple of officiating crews with their flamboyant demeanor which went on during the show?
Jets play a lot of press coverage in their secondary, and the offensive lineman love to play physical and use their hands when blocking. Are refs now looking for that when they officiate Jets games?
During the Ravens' game, after the ghost call on CB Kyle Wilson in the end zone on WR TJ Houshmandzadeh, I told a friend that I thought Jets might be called for more penalties this year because they will be more closely watched than other teams. After seeing the last two games, I'm starting to think that theory might have some validity.
In the first three games of this season, Jets have been penalized 29 times for 264 yards. Last season, the Jets were penalized only 88 times, which is an average of 5.5 per game.
So GGN, are the officials getting a bit carried away with the flags? Or have all of these penalties been warranted?
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I voted yes because of the Baltimore game, (funny how Ray Lewis cried about the refs when they lost to Cinci) however,
there has been a lack of discipline with this team. Braylon Edwards now have had two first down killing penalties. That is inexcusable for a WR. The obvious is the O-line, but i guess because of adding a new player they should gel later in the season.
The first weeks officiating crew was ridiculous for both sides, they over officiated, the Jets did not adapt, or at least the Ravens adapted better…
The jets have been sloppy, they can’t hide behind the officiating , they need to get better
Yup, and in no-way is this a cop-out
We lost the Ravens’ game because we didn’t score points. End of story.
Just pointing something out.
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I honestly don't think so.
Alot of our calls are undisciplined mistakes (PI, holding, false starts, etc…). You pretty much have to subtract what is not a judgement call because this is the obvious stuff you yell at the player on your TV screen about. While the PIs can be judgement calls, many were pretty obvious on second look.
As JetOrange pointed out you can’t blame the officiating crew especially if their are bad calls on both sides with their have been and I don’t think that number is significantly disproportionate against us. We would need a basline of bad calls to go off of, like phantom holding calls, bias personal foul calls, or running into the kicker calls that were obvious acting jobs…oh wait…
Kyle Wilson
Is anyone on the Jets coaching staff going to tell Kyle Wilson to turn his head and find the ball ? As long as he keeps looking at the receiver, he is going to continue getting called for P. I.
Kyle, when the ball is in the air, forget coverage…go and catch the ball. We all love Revis and Revis Island,but Revis is the great player that he is because when the ball is in the air, he knows it is mine to catch if I want it.
Kyle…please find the ball! You have the ability, go for it.
dont blame him too much
Sometimes we forget that wilson is a rookie. yes he’s been making mistakes but i feel its cos he just hasnt adapted yet to the speed of the game. I have a feeling he’s going to be really good… eventually. We gta just give him time and sometimes a little help on coverage.
+1
At his present stage he is much better at covering receivers underneath because the play is in front of him. He will need to learn how to look back for the ball while running with the WR. He was probably faster than most of the WR’s he faced in college and could do it but Pro WR’s are faster and stronger so he will need to adapt and it takes time. He needs to be moved to the slot and cover guys like Welker who run mostly underneath stuff. Right now that is his strength.
How many rookies are put into this kind of one on one coverage
right away? He’s physical, he’s short, and he’s going to be thrown on. Ryan has to understand this is a fundamental flaw in his play calling, or at least appreciate that he risks calls on Wilson every time he max blitzes.
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Can never never ever...NEVER blame the refs.
So, no.
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Read the above comment I just posted, I never said to BLAME the refs
I said do you think the officials’ perception is affecting how they are making certain calls?
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Not about blame
But more about perceptions. And selling the play.
Other posts are dead on about Wilson. If you don’t face the ball and give the appearance you’re playing the ball and not the man, you’re more often than not gonna get flagged. Other teams are penalized similarly.
The Packers weren’t on Hard Knocks and they had like 18 penalties last night that probably cost them the game. Most were holding calls and while I will admit that some were less obvious than the others, they all seemed to be correct calls.
It’s part of the game. When you bump a receiver while having your back to the ball, you’re gonna get called. The DB coach will work with him during the season and we need to remember that he’s a rookie being asked to play a huge role so early in his career.
by oldskooljet on Sep 28, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
We're playing sloppy.
Even if you look at just the holding/false start/illegal shift type penalties, we’ve been getting a LOT of those, which can be explained away by new offensive linemen and early-season experimentation with offensive sets.
As for all the defensive holding/PI calls, Wilson is a rookie and Cromartie has always been a little touchy-feely, they should be able to reign that stuff in once the season gets going.
It’s not like Rex went on Hard Knocks and said, ‘EFF THE REFS, BUNCH OF DIRTBAGS." I’m sure some of those refs curse like sailors, too, when they’re off the field.
Aggressive defenses get more penalties called on them. This is true of every all-out defense with the exception of the Steelers, whom the referees just love too much to ever call anything on.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Sep 28, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree. The agrresive Ds will get hit more. And the Ravens game was an anamoly. That crew is notorious for calling it tight. The next two games seemed to be called much more evenly.
Plus it is pretty hard to get PIs called on the other team
when you don’t throw the ball to your WRs.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
I'm divided on this
Some of them are legit penalties even if you think the rule behind the violation is stupid. Some of them are good penalties to take (Slauson probably saved Sanchez from a huge hit with one of the holds he got called on him), some of them are playing sloppy and/or absentminded (Braylon’s illegal shift week 1, Brick’s false start). That said, some of them are truly ridiculous (The ghost call on Wilson, also there was one this week that had me up out of my chair screaming but I don’t remember which) . If there are more calls like that against the Bills, i’d be more inclined to think the Refs are looking harder at the Jets then anyone else
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by blueandorange4life on Sep 28, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions
Also more O-line penalties
Are a product of the referee’s new position in the backfield opposed to him being on the defensive side of the ball
false start
The false starts is on us no matter where the refs are. Almost to the point I get concern when sanchez is making his calls and I’m anticipating a false start and I want them to hike the ball already.
1st game, the calls to maybe confuse the ravens D confused our O Line more. Cadence too long I thought. Maybe just me.
The Packers put up 18 penalties last night.
I think the issue is league wide. Is it the refs fault that they have to call a 15 yard penalty if someone touches a QB a nano-second after the ball is released or hits a wide receiver who doesn’t catch a ball over the middle? Is it the refs fault that they have to call pass interference when a pass is under-thrown and the receiver comes back for it and runs into the defender? I can’t believe there isn’t a team whose entire offense depends on pass interference. Throw deep enough times at inexperienced defenders, and you might win yourself some games.
These are huge game-changing penalties, and in a game where one play can change everything, often dictate wins and losses.
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Sep 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
It would be nice if the Jets could actually get to the QB close enough to get a penalty called on them.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
Where can I get me some of those rose colored glasses 2/3 of you have?
There’s always a bad penalty or two in every game. Like Timmaht said, it’s a lack of discipline and most of the calls are justified, at least after the replay.
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