$h*! My Offensive Coordinator Does

That was a terrible call. It was like hitting on 18 at the blackjack table and getting 3.

LOL

I think he’s stepped it up since week 1 and we still compain. I didnt get sending Brad smith wide and leaving shonn greene. The other brad smith play worked so who cares? They were probably expecting the pass so he ran and it worked. Throwing with 4mins left in the game i thought was genius defense is expecting you to run so you throw and it worked perfectly. We Won you can complain after he does a horrible job =P

I always said schotty never really impresses me. We had a good flow going and Sanchez was hot then he changed the schemes and we got out of sync. Then we went back to what was working and finally got it going again. Schotty is stepping up but still scares me with bonehead stuff now and then.

but he was so bad in game one he could only go up. In the second qtr his play calling after the 54 yrd return stopped mommentum and the 3 and out left the D tired, and the dolphins scored. If Allen doesn’t fall down on the Edwards TD it ciuld have been a different game. Even when he is good he tries to get cute. Also other teams have no problem going right back to a play that is obviously working. The Phins were gonna keep throwing that high outside ball until wilson turned around. We however won’t. Crackback and I both wondered when we would run another pitch or run to the outside. Both times we did it ‘3 picked up 10+. It was obviously there yet Schotty wouldn’t go back to it. And he could find one play for Keller in the 2nd half?

These are the typical attempts at deception that make execution more difficult. It also feels at times like Schottenheimer scripts his entire game without regard for situation.

This is my biggest beef with him. He has know purpose to his cute plays. He doesn’t do to create match-ups like the Colts and the Saints do; he doesn’t do create a schematic advantage; its just pure trickery.

How about doing things that make some sense for once? Like going double-TE and shifting Keller to the slot to try to get a LB matched up on him or to force a safety down to create a one-on-one for Braylon outside. Or putting B Smith in the slot and running a couple reverses and bubble screens to keep the OLB/DE from setting the edge on our run game. Or how about just simply putting Braylon and Keller on the same side of the formation. Braylon is the best blocking receiver and can really improve the run to the strong side of the formation; and also both would typically require safety help, so why not put the D in a serious pinch by having them on the same side? It would make it much more difficult to cover each of them.

There’s so many simple things that could be done set up our guys in favorable situations but he never does them.

When holmes comes to the line up in game 5 we’ll see how creative schotty will get. If he sucks with jco, bray, holmes, keller, and even smith, then he sucks for sure and no benefit of the doubt.

Schottenheimer split Smith wide leaving Shonn Greene by himself to take a direct snap. This was done presumably to confuse the defense.

Not taking issue with the general thoughts on the post with which I mostly agree, but when you say that a specific motion was used to confuse the defense, I can’t say that this is really decidedly the case. Most motion isn’t used to confuse the defense, but rather is used to force the defense to show their cues. Putting Smith in motion from the QB position would reveal who has him as a hawk (if such a player moves with him when in motion). It could also confuse the defense, one presumes, but really the first thing you look at with motion is how it is reacted to. If nobody follows Smith, then you have a zone or gap coverage defense.

I don’t remember the context of the play you are commenting on, but it could also have something to do with other plays in the past and how the Dolphins are covering the Wildcat. It might not be just about that play, but the entire Wildcat playbook.

I usually defend O coordinators when it comes to playcalling. After all, they study film all week and have a much better idea than us on the opposing defense’s tendencies on certain formations and downs. Every O coordinator has 2-3 calls a game that can make us scratch our heads. The 3rd and long brad smith play tells me schotty did not want to take any chances with sanchez downfield. I don’t have a huge problem with that. Remember, sanchez could have had 3 picks today if he wasn’t lucky.

However, that throw on 1st and 10 really bothered me. They ran the ball well on that drive. I dont’ know if schotty thought a shovel pass to LDT was pretty much a given completion, so he thought it was low-risk or whatever. It was a dumb play call. run the damn ball and kill clock dude. keep it simple.

let’s all be thankful we don’t have paul hackett lol.

 Im not sure if Im all that broken up about it tho. After the nightmare of week 1, Im much more settled about Shotty’s playcalling. But the few examples you have given still raise some level of concern with me.
I think we saw a perfect example of how playcalling can take you out of a game this week with the Fins. Their offense was passing the ball at will against the Jets in the middle quarters and seemed to be unstopable. Untill they pick some bad moments to implement the Wildcat and the Jets began to find themselves in some managable 3rd down situations late in the game. Having Ronnie Brown chuckin the ball around the field only served to disrupt how fluid the offense was previously operating.
Steady play calling is not something to scoff at. In fact, I think it’s a mark of a great playcaller. Sometimes when I see Shotty pulling these crazy motions and getting cute with passing the ball late in the game I wonder if he thinks he can’t trust the players strickly on their ability alone. He shouldnt think he has to over complicate things with all the talent this team has. Trust your players and their ability and call plays accordingly. The second an OC thinks he’s running around on the field playing the 12 man in the huddle you could end up with… well, exactly what happened week one actually.

4:46 left, fourth quarter, 1st and 10 from midfield

The Jets had run the ball for 30 yards and 2 first downs in 3 plays on the drive. They were trying to milk the clock. The offensive line was having its way against Miami’s front. Schottenheimer decided it was time to throw the ball.

This could also be called breaking against tendency. A first down throw right there almost seals the game (insuring a FG or deep punt). I actually liked the play call, but the Defense was up for it.

I kind of disagree that the Jets were having their way with the Dolphin’s line. They had had some success, but in general they were not blowing the line off the ball. Gaps were being hit, but the line of scrimmage was not really being controlled from what I could tell. It was a question of having the right mix so they couldn’t stuff the box. I wasn’t really against this call.

Schotty has calmed down a bit since the Ravens’ tap dance game, he did a better job. He still though seems to lack game feel, and there are times that the communication from the sideline still seems confused.

The Schotty Specials?
Schottenheisims?
Schottonamy?
Schitty Play calls?

Other?

I have always had a problem with Schotty’s shoddy play calling. Like GangGreenGol4 said, you could ask my wife who the one person in the Jets organization I have always had issues with and she’d tell you unequivocally its Schottenheimer.

He seems to be careful when he needs to be aggressive, and visa versa, He seems to try and get tricky when he needs to just use common sense, like throwing in the forth quarter twice in a row and stopping the clock,

I agree with you Buzzy, it’s about the process. The results are ultimately the most important thing, but bad process will lead to bad results more often than not.

love the three WR set in which they had LDT run to the strong side against the Pats. That’s such a great play because the end has to respect the bubble screen. With LDT ability to get outside that play works because he has the down field blocking. I guess he’s saving the play because he didn’t even use the set against the phins.