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Tomlinson Never Lost His Burst Speed

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San Diego Chargers' front office and genius GM A.J. Smith, aka the most ruthless GM in the NFL, said LT had nothing left in the tank.

If the veteran running back keeps up with his YPC (yards per carry) and YCo (yards after contact), they may be eating crow soon.

Tomlinson has rushed 22 times for 138 times thus far this season --- a remarkable 6.8 YPC. He is still a phenomenal open-field runner, and can run east-west as well as any back in the NFL. 

Pro Football Focus' Mike Clay tweeted that he is also ranked No. 2 in NFL in YCo.

RB Leader in YCo/Attempt is LeSean McCoy at 5.1 (min 25% of team's snaps) 2. Tomlinson 3. Bradshaw 4. Peterson 5. Hightower 6. McFadden

He's still got it.

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It looks like I'll be eating it too...

Of all the offseason moves we made, dropping TJ for LT was my least favorite. I’m so glad to be wrong about this. (Thus far anyway. I hope he’s still tearing it up in 8 – 12 weeks.)

by cult hero on Sep 24, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Well I look at it more like Greene replaced TJ and LdT replaced Leon. I have said many times signing LdT was a sorry attempt at selling PSls. Glad to be wrong (so far)

"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama

by BL3ACH on Sep 24, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d just like to see Greene running over guys and doing better in short yardage downs to compliment LT.

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by Matt Birch on Sep 24, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

A.J. Smith....

Not for nothing has A.J. acquired the nickname “The Lord of No Rings” here in San Diego.

This season, he decided to dump on and not sign his Pro-Bowl wideout, (IMHO, somewhat justifiable due to off the field issues), and his Pro-Bowl Left Tackle – (IMHO, completely brain-dead).

by DougGreen on Sep 24, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Definitely brain-dead. And I had to take a shot at him, because honestly, he is a real d*ckhead. No one likes him, and what he did to LT was pretty dirty.

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by Matt Birch on Sep 24, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

AGREED X100

LT was and probably still is GOD in San Diego!!! He is like Jeter to New York, all class and has full run of the city! A.J. really stuck it to LT, and I for one hope LT gets the last laugh in the end, ie; further run in the playoffs/SB win!!! A.J., how is Ryan Matthews doing now? LOL. Anyway, I did go on the record and predicted that LT would have a much better year this year. It’s simple, his line is run blocking for him, not pass blocking the majority of the time. The climate in San Diego had changed from a ground and pound (Marty ball) to Air Coryell part Deux (Norv Turner). I see no reason to believe that LT will slow down appreciably any time soon. Just need for Greene to a): hold onto the rock, b): hold onto the rock and c): hold onto the rock!!!

by SanDiegoJet on Sep 25, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe how he handled those 2 players

more shocking is the owner allowed it to happen

"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama

by BL3ACH on Sep 24, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand not signing V.Jackson long term.....

Because he’s got a bunch of DWI’s and other miscellaneous off-field conduct issues – something that we Jets fans can certainly relate to now, with Braylon Edwards.

But they certainly could have gotten Jackson signed for 1 season with a $5 Million or so tender offer (they offerred him $3 Million, and then knocked it down to $2.4 Million when he didn’t sign it before the exhibition games started). If I were the Bolts, I’d have signed Jackson for one year and put him on notice that his personal conduct was the reason he wasn’t getting a long term deal now – but if he was a model citizen this year, the door was open to a long term deal the following season. But A.J. would much rather screw the guy, even if it hurts the Chargers’ team.

The Marcus McNeil situation is even more puzzling – they are betting the season on keeping Phillip Rivers healthy and getting big time performance from a rookie RB. You would think that they would want to keep a top-tier left tackle under that scenario, rather than a couple of journeyman backups, which is what they are going with now. But A.J. wants to let everyone know he’s the boss – even if it means keeping the Chargers out of the playoffs to do it.

by DougGreen on Sep 25, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But A.J. wants to let everyone know he’s the boss – even if it means keeping the Chargers out of the playoffs to do it.

Spot on. Rec’d

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by Matt Birch on Sep 25, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I mean not trading him

He will not play for the Chargers again, I would of just took the 2nd and move on.

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by BL3ACH on Sep 25, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jackson’s got Revis’ agents. I’ve heard he wants to be the highest paid at his position in the league. Unlike Revis, though, he’s not close to being the best at his position in the league.

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by John B on Sep 25, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just for arguments sake,

I think he is close to being the best. Absolutely in the top 10. This guy has deep ball speed and incredible size. Back to back 1100 yard seasons in his 3rd and 4th years is pretty impressive. Also, at least VJ was approaching FA when he did this. I hear you though. Highest paid seems crazy, but he deserves to get paid.

by dookiehead on Sep 25, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still early in the season....

If I were a Jets fan, I’d be more concerned about how long he can keep his legs under him. Its a marathon season, not a sprint.

I admit, he looks great now, but can he hold up is the real question? Age and History are against him.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

But he's only getting...

10-15 carries per game now, they are using him perfectly right now. You know a sort of younger and better Rickey Williams.

by Judgegavel on Sep 25, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is true (on the number of carries)

The comparison to Williams is a stretch though. Ricky had a couple years out of the game, with no carries, while LT was ridden to death. Ricky probably actually has the fresher legs of the 2… but even then, they aren’t the same kind of back.

LT is a dancer, finesse type, Ricky has always been a power back.

However, both are definitely flipping the 30 year old RB misconception on its head.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

There will alsos be games that Greene busts loose and dominates, where LD will have very little touches. Right now i’m very happy with the blend. It couldn’t be more perfect. We can attack different defenses with different styles. Some defenses will be better suited for one back rather than another.

by Crackback on Sep 25, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's younger

Than Thomas Jones and Ricky Williams. And check out how RB’s perform in Turner’s system.

by jetsbill on Sep 25, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The argument against will always be he has more milage though.

Of course they forget that he was a much better back than either of them as well.

by Judgegavel on Sep 25, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well the argument about the mileage is only backed up by the History of the position

hehe, thats why everyone uses it.

LT in his prime was the best back in the league for the last decade. If you can find anyone that argues that, they don’t know football.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have family in SD and all were saying LT was not declining at all...

that his poor performance the last two were because of the O line, injuries and the way he was being used. They were very pissed off chargers fans, and were saying the Jets made the steal of the off-season.

by Judgegavel on Sep 25, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Again AGREE X100

LT coming to the Jets was the best move for him. The philosophy of the Jets is more conducive to LT’s game. The Bolts were pandering to that crybaby Rivers, instead of keeping the guy who carried them into the playoffs for 7 years (I think it was 7 or 8, not sure, getting old) happy!!!

by SanDiegoJet on Sep 25, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know a whole lot about Cromartie, other than he gets girls pregnant

just by walking by the block they live in…
and that he hates contact…he avoids it like Ted Ginn.

Very gifted athlete, and plays well, but the physicality is what has always held him back in my opinion.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

One might also argue that River's passing ability also helped out LT....

Passing to open up the run.
Running to open up the pass.
It was a give and take in SD, and they had a damn good situation with it.

Your OLine compensates for the lack of the passer that Rivers is (Sanchez may become like Rivers, but he’s not there now)….

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

not necessarily

LT has been doing his thing way before Rivers was an established QB.

by PowerBar on Sep 25, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

In LT's first season, Doug Flutie threw for 3,400+ yards.

and then in LT’s second season a guy named Drew Brees threw for over 3,200+ yards.

He’s always had a very successful passing attack behind him. Thats not taking anything away from LT, as I said earlier, its the best Back in his decade, without question. Future Hall of Famer.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

theory

Usually that’s the theory the pass opens up the run and visa versa. So what happened to the last 2 years, chargers passing was awesome but could not run the ball? LT is doing awesome now but we have a long way to go and of course I’ll be rooting for him.
On milage, in the past he took it easy in training and never really played in the preseason so the milage was reduce somewhat to off set his more carries in the regular season versus the other backs in their early 30’s.

by ocjet on Sep 25, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The San Diego offensive line is not built for run blocking at all, they are a pass blocking line.

Even Sproles averaged under 4 per carry last year. The difference between their offense and ours is night and day.

by dookiehead on Sep 25, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year he was injured, the year before he ran for 1,100...

He’s got over 2800 attempts.

As an example, Shaun Alexander had 2,100 attempts and he hit a major cliff.
LT is obviously better than SA, but limited the limited touches he would have had in Preseason doesn’t amount to much….

You guys aren’t over loading him, which is perfect…. but I wonder how come week 14 how he’ll be holding up. Just musing…..

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

bah, 3200 yards is 200 a game.

Are we saying LT is only LT because he had league average QB production?

by dookiehead on Sep 25, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was Brees's first year starting....

The QB production went up from there….

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by Fr8Train on Sep 25, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, our offensive line is just much better.

which is why LT runs better here. Which is why Jones rushed for 1400 last year with nothing in the tank. Passing to open up the run only works if you ever run the ball.

by dookiehead on Sep 25, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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