Three Keys for Sunday
by John B on Sep 24, 2010 9:05 AM EDT
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Today I have another cross post event with Matty I from The Phinsider. We are both giving three keys for victory Sunday and giving the other guy a chance for a rebuttal.
Here are my three keys for the Jets to win:
1. Take away Brandon Marshall: Miami hasn't really had a big play offense in recent years. Marshall is a legitimate game breaker. The Jets should give Antonio Cromartie plenty of help to make sure they limit Marshall's effectiveness. The Jets have a tough defense to put together long drives against on a consistent basis. If the Jets take Marshall away, Miami will have to do just that.
Matty's Rebuttal: The Jets obviously have a great defense - there's no denying that. But the Dolphins were able to put together touchdown drives of 12 plays, 15 plays, and 13 plays against this defense last year in Miami. And that was with a defense that featured Darrelle Revis, Calvin Pace, and Kris Jenkins. I agree that the Jets have to prevent Marshall from beating them. But I also think it would be a mistake to short-change Miami's other offensive weapons.
More after the jump.
2. Win battles against Miami's offensive line: It probably sound obvious, but Miami's offensive line outmanned the Jets' defensive front in the first meeting between the teams last year, a Dolphins win. The Jets' defense so dominated the second meeting that they had a chance to win the game in the final minute even after allowing 21 nonoffensive points. Against a team that loves to run it, execution might be more important than the scheme.
Matty's Rebuttal: Can't argue this at all. The Dolphins dominated up front in their first meeting last year but struggled mightily in the second meeting. I still haven't decided if this Miami offensive line is better or worse than a year ago. I'll likely have a much better idea after Sunday's game.
3. Come out with intensity: The Dolphins have the look of a really good team. The stadium should be electric in the home opener against a division rival. If the Jets aren't up to the moment out of the gate, there's a chance they could get run out of the building.
Matty's Rebuttal: From the sound of things, it's going to be a playoff atmosphere at Sun Life Stadium on Sunday night. It's the Dolphins' home opener in prime time with a chance to make a statement on national television against a team that is not only a hated rival but also a trendy Super Bowl pick this offseason. And I agree completely that the Jets will have to come out ready to play. The Dolphins have a team that is really built to play with a lead and finish games - they run the ball well and get after the opposing quarterback. But I'll admit that I have no idea how they'd respond if they fall behind big early in the game. For some reason, though, I'm not too worried about that actually happening. This is going to be a game decided in the fourth quarter.
Matty has his keys for a Dolphins victory and my rebuttals over at The Phinsider. Head over there to check it out, and remember to play nice.
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As good as Brandon Marshall is, Ted Ginn Jr. played like Jerry Rice in his prime against the Jets. Marshall can’t be any better than that. Stop the wildcat, stop the trick plays, and make them play you straight up and attempt to beat you with Chad Henne. The Jets are the far more talented team even without Revis and should win this game.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Actually
The Dolphins run the wildcat about 6 or 7 times a game. When they do, it’s hardly trick plays. It’s actually the most simplistic form of form of offense – single wing option. The Jets might be more talented on paper in some positions, but paper doesn’t win foootball games. To say they are a “far more talented” team is ludicrous. If that’s the case then why has Miami beaten them 3 straight times? I’m not trolling, just an opposing fan stating an opinion.
Comparing Ginn and marshall proves you don't know anything about football
by Dolphins21MZ on Sep 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
actually the comparison he is making is the fact that Ginn had 3 tds in 2 games… If Marshall can repeat that, kudos to him…
by airamerica11 on Sep 24, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What he means is
in 1 game he beat Revis for a deep TD which hardly ever happens. In game 2 he had 2 100 yard kickoff returns in the same game which never happens. So just for Marshall to match Ginn’s production in those to games would be him having BIG games. Unless you think Marshall is going to have 4 TD’S in 2 games vs us I dont see it.
I think he means Ginn had the absolute game of his life playing against the Jet last year
Which he would be 100% correct if this is what he meant.
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like Jerry Rice? Seriously?
You know, We would have gladly traded him to you guys for a 1st round pick… I don’t think there is a single Dolphins fan that would have passed on that trade wcwb trading him within the division … Now he did beat Revis ONCE … but the rest of the time it was a complete waste to put the guy on the field. Every single time we threw it to the guy it was because we thought … “Eh, who needs [insert current down], anyway” … Brandon Marshall even makes a difference over Ted Ginn on a running play because he will actually try to lay someone out instead of trying to run to the sideline before someone touches him.
I don’t think you should even be able to type something like that in your own home without Jerry Rice slapping you for it. In 2 games last year Ted Ginn put up 2 catches for 57 yards in the first game, and 0 catches for 0 yards in the other. He did make up for being totally worthless on offense in the second game by returning 2 kicks for TDs … I can’t find out how many times we wasted a down in those games by throwing the ball at him, but I am pretty sure he was good for a few drops in each game.
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Sun Life Stadium huh
At least that is better then Landshark, but The New Medowlands is a pretty weak name also.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
We can’t find one name for our stadium, and they change theirs almost on a weekly basis lol
España 2010 Campenoes del Mundo!!!
It's an attempt to keep visiting teams on their toes...
If they don’t know the name of the Stadium, it’s hard to find it on a GPS….
lol
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by Kevin Nogle on Sep 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he might get lost finding the visiting dressing room.
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I just call it Joe Robbie
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Stadium Name
We could find a name for our stadium if only there was a big enough bid.
I heard that Sun Life staidum will be called Key West Lager Stadium at Finfag field for next weeks game.
Odds are that the New Meadowlands naming rights will be sold to another large struggling financial institution that is currently operating soley on government bail out money—the grand scheme here is that both citi filed and the new meadowlands will be called OBAMA Stadium at Federal Field….
the earlier post about Ginn playing out of his mind against us last year is true—didnt he scorch revis for a TD in Miami and run two kick offs back for scores at our place…who would a thunk it, Tedd ginn—the X factor…?
Finfag field
really?
Unnecessary.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 I thought everyone was doing a petty good job at remaining civil.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Yeah, its kinda nice for a change.
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O-line
How many new offensive lineman do the dolphins have again? 2 new guards and a center? Icognito will take at least 2 penalties in this physical game. This might be a big story as this line probably hasnt gelled yet and may not be able to quickly pick up each other’s blocking assignments. I look for the Jets to throw a lot of different looks and blitzes at this o-line that has not played many games together and get after Henne big time. Brandon Marshall cant be a threat if Henne doesnt have any time to throw it to him. Stop the run and force him to drop back. Strip sacks here we come
Yes
The Dolphins have new O-lineman, just like they did when they faced the Jets last year. The question isn’t how are the Dolphins going to block the Jets, it’s vice versa. The whole nation saw how awful your situation at LG is on Hard Knocks. Ferguson is decent, Mangold is a stud, but Damien Woody struggles with speed rushers and that’s exactly what Cameron Wake is.
You wanna talk about penalties? You should worry about Gang Green because last I saw they were one of the most undisciplined teams in football. Funny how Rex promotes a frat house atmostphere and then acts surprised when his players get stupid penalties or act like knuckeleheads off the field too.
Ferguson is decent?
Yeah I know that he hasn’t played well in the first two weeks, and I wouldn’t go so far as to compare him to Jake Long, but to call him decent is flat-out ignorant. Are you aware that he made the Pro-Bowl last year? Decent players don’t make the Pro-Bowl. He’s at the very least one of the better Left Tackles in the NFL. Also, Matt Slauson has played well over the first two weeks. I haven’t heard his name called once, and that’s exactly what you want from your O-Lineman. If you think our situation at LG is bad, just look at your situation at center… I’m excited to see Pouha bursting through the middle and blowing up every run in the backfield on Sunday.
by bboyballer90 on Sep 24, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
If you want to, be my guest. You would be sadly misguided though.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I disagree....
“Decent Players” often make the Pro Bowl….see Brett Favre as a NYJ in the Pro Bowl, over Chad Pennington (who was a runner up as MVP).
The Pro Bowl is a joke…its not like it used to be. As soon as they added the fan vote as 50% of the process, it became nothing more than a popularity contest.
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And Alan Faneca last year. But Ferguson isnt a household name to get that many votes on rep alone...
Being in the #1 media market....is enough to garner votes :)
But I agree there probably isn’t a whole lot of recognition outside the AFC E for Ferguson…. even if he deserves it.
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They also call their name if they make a really good block occasionally ...
So far they have talked about Jake Long, Richie Incognito, and John Jerry … I don’t think I have heard much from the other ones … Guards mostly get mentioned when they are pulling though …
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
News flash
He hasn’t played that well in the first 3 years. Not compared to where he was drafted. He is decent, which means he is good, but when you are drafted in the top 3 you are expected to be great like Jake Long or Joe Thomas.
Did you have the audio on during the Baltimore game when Jaworski and Gruden were talking about Slauson’s struggles and how they had a hard time shoring up LG after realeasing Faneca? My guess would be no.
New flash no. 3: Our inteior O-line just played against the Williams wall in Minnesota, and with all do respect to Pouha, he is not in their league, hardly anyone is.
Ferguson is decent?
yeah, and Jake Long is mediocre.
Incognito doesn't have a single penalty yet
far as I know.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy is a goon
And everyone knows it. Released from the Rams after two personal foul headbutting calls and screaming at his coach on the sidelines, he was a risk the dolphins brought in just like the acquisition of BE and AC for the Jets, only a matter of time and with the intensity of this game coming up, it will only be amplified.
I wouldn't deny that.
Merely stating that even with his history of stupidity, the guy has yet to let himself screw up here.
He’s on a 1-year contract worth less than he’s been paid before, and I believe he had to take anger management classes or something. He knows that if he screws up, he’s gone.
I think he’ll be on his best behavior like Moss was when he got to NE and like Holmes will probably be when he’s active again.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Right and its all hypothetical until they play the game
But Rex is a great defensive coach, he hasnt had a single one of his defenses finish lower than 10th regardless of personnel and Im thinking he might confuse their offensive line. Maybe not, thats why they play the games
Absolutely
and I can’t wait
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what his straight jacket is for
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How many penalties does Incognito have so far?
He played for the Rams … come on … you would probably head butt someone too if you team sucked that bad …
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
The MNF game was called tight, I can safely say that a bunch of those penalties should have been no calls and the play that cost us the TD was absolute BS, player dives to block the kick, doesnt make any contact with the kicker but happens to be on the field where the kicker sets his foot down, wow. Anyway we will wait until SNF to see how undisciplined this football team is. Incognito is a notorious punk and he wont be happy when Pouha or Ellis are up in his face playing physical. I like how every retort to a weakness on your team is oh the Jets are a bunch of jerks and knuckleheads, one off the field incident and we get crucified by the media, yet how many Dolphins players were arrested during the offseason and where was the backlash? The ignorance and hypocrisy of some of the Dolphins fans posting is laughable and pathetic. Stick to talking football.
There was less backlash because we don't have the ignorance to claim we're the Super Bowl champs
before the season even starts.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Very nice...
Hahaha.
Although I wish people would stop viewing that negatively. If you don’t believe you’ll be in the Super Bowl, good luck actually getting there. It’s good for them, and for us, to believe that.
What sucks is to be a team that’s doing this: “Well, hopefully we can make some positive steps in the right direction and maybe compete again down the line as we develop our young players.”
Of course
thing is, that’s our owner saying that. He has to believe it, as a business guy. He owns the team, he expects nothing but the best we can offer. He invested his money into us.. we owe him something.
It’s entirely different and several levels more ignorant for your coach to write on the ESPN bus that you’re already the winner of the Lombardi. He truly puts it out there that everybody should just lay down and give them the trophy now.
That’s at least 10x more ignorant and cocky than a guy putting a lot of money into an investment and demanding a return on that investment.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the only time we've won a Super Bowl
Is when this exact thing happened, and history is known to repeat itself
I would never say the Jets can't win it or won't win it
I obviously don’t know that.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
this makes no sense.
Owners dont care about championships, only dollars.
It makes more sense under your reasoning for Rex ryan to be talking superbowl. He is the coach. 90 percent of the owners dont care about winning or not.
Well, thing is, championships translate into dollars
because of all the deals that come with it, attention they receive, etc. etc.
Which is what I was saying. Ross only wants the Lombardi because it means a monetary return on his dollars.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He also said that he was hoping Henne would be the best QB in Dolphins history...
Don’t pay any attention to the man behind the curtain … as long as he opens his wallet every time it is time to go get a FA or draft pick we want …
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't wait until sunday night.
It’s gonna be a fucken massacre. Doplhin fans are going to be crying and questioning everything after this game.
31-3 Jets.
Good luck with that, shithead
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I won't need any luck.
You guys got all the luck last year, and squeaked by twice. With neutral luck, you guys will be very upset by the end of the game. We held Baltimore to 10 and NE to 14. What’s Miami gonna score? 3? 6?
I dunno, but what I do know is that
before the first game last season (again, without Marshall), you guys talked a big defensive game. “We shut down Brady, we shut down blah blah,” etc.. and then we had a Primetime home game and just gashed your defense while Henne played the game of his life after having started one or two games as a professional.
I don’t know how it happened, honestly, but it did. There’s no reason for history not to repeat itself, because both teams got better.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The Vikings also held the Saints to 14...
And we put up 14 against them … Hmm…given that no team has scored more than 10 against us so far … that is enough to win against you guys too. I wouldn’t say you guys are better on offense than the Vikings. AP all by himself is better than the has-been and the never-will-be that you guys call RBs. Who are your WRs? I can’t in good conscience say that I am more afraid of Sanchez to Braylon Edwards than I was Favre to Harvin, hip injury and all. Keller is good, but I have to say that I was more worried about Shiancoe than Keller …
Your name says it all, dookiehead…
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting username, by the way.
You’re opening yourself up too easily to feces jokes :)
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If I'm a tool for finding Family Guy funny
then sure, I’m happy to be one
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Tool :)
sorry, had to. lol
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Says the guy with a ninja-dolphin as his avatar..
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, nice.
Its a bad ass dolphin though :)
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Yessir
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it is, I am very familiar with the show, and quite enjoy it.
I just thought it was strange that out of a million possible sig worthy family guy lines, the Liam Neeson as a cowboy episode? To each their own I guess.
Haha
first time I saw that clip, I laughed my ass off
I don’t care how anti-cowboy Liam Neeson is, that’s just a funny friggin’ season regardless of who says it and is portrayed by it.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
fair enough.
You got me. It was a hilarious episode. I was grasping at straws. I lose.
(not being sarcastic)
:)
haha, oops, btw I meant scene not season. What am I on?
I agree that there are a ton of other sig-worthy lines from that show. Dunno what it was that had me choose this over the rest.
With FG, nobody loses :)
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't calling you that
as a matter of just lashing out in anger. It was a joke made funny by your name.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I got it.
And please, don’t mind me. Don’t take what I say personally, I already regret calling you a tool, your Fin brethren have me all riled up. I know that you and Fr8 are good people.
Don't regret it, it's not like tool is some name that offends me or most people
Actually one of the nicer ways to make fun of somebody.
I understand you. Some of your Jets brethren (aka Crackback) have me pissed off. Most of you guys are good people, and I know how easy it is to get riled up by the stupidest of fans on either side.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I appreciate that :)
Love it when we can get into a good debate, that doesn’t turn into a pissing contest….
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btw, I can piss farther....LOL
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Absolutely not
Merely stating that it was more pronounced on your side because of the outlandish expectations and cocky comments of your head coach
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And of your owner?
Dude your owner said the same thing, your argument is worthless now and so in fact the Dolphins are the more undisciplined team when it comes to off the field issues
lol
Excuse me—don’t try to make that argument after what Braylon did, please haha. Considering all the circumstances, including Stallworth’s incident and the fact that the owner will pay for a cab.. come on, now.
We had a DUI, but it was Ronnie’s first as far as I know. He didn’t have a pre-existing probation.
Ricky doesn’t toke up anymore. Tell Santonio why wake-n-bakes are wrong :)
Also, regular season discipline is not the same as pre-season discipline. It matters more now
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously you havent seen what your team has been doing this offseason
Phillip Merling-aggravated assault on pregnant woman
Ronnie Brown- DUI
Tony McDaniel- domestic battery
Will Allen- DUI
Get a clue bro, and regular season vs. preseason discipline?? give me a break!
Phillip Merling-aggravated assault on pregnant woman
I must of missed this…smh He is a good player but it is hard not to put him in the same boat as that scumbag K-Rod ( no offense and I don’t know the details but it just sounds bad)
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
no one on the site defended him for that ...
We all thought he was a moron… I don’t think it helped with his status with the front office … We already know they are not against cutting high draft picks …
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it a crime to drink at a bar with a friend?
Yeah the incident should have resonated with him but he is in no way at fault for drinking with Stallworth the night he killed someone
Not at all a crime, sir
I enjoy it myself on occasion.
Your second statement was my point. Don’t drink and drive in NYC after a friend of yours killed somebody over it.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Then dont argue that the Jets are undisciplined off the field
When the Dolphins are far worse, capice?
Haha, K, I'll stop arguing with you
clearly there’s no difference between pre-season arrests and regular seasons one. Somebody should go tell Rex to calm down! Why’s he getting his panties in a bunch when, honestly, it doesn’t matter that a player of his is getting arrested now—it makes no difference if he got arrested now or before Week 1, right? Not like the games matter now.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Was there an argument whether or not Ronnie Brown should start week 1, or any of your other players?
Yes their actions are being magnified but it doesnt make them any more/less significant because it is the regular season
I'm not talking about significance whatsoever
magnification is the only thing that matters here, because magnification of incidents is what breeds doubt and negative media opinions.
As far as significance goes, sure, we had the “worse” season so far. We’ve had more arrests, and Merling was an idiot for battering his pregnant girlfriend. May he receive as much pain for that as he made her feel.
But once the games start, that doesn’t matter, because nobody’s looking at them anymore. They’re focusing on what happens when the games start counting, and we see that with the negative media coverage surround Braylon following that arrest.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree and the Jets put themselves in this position
Sucks that this is being so severely scrutinized but oh well thats what the spotlight does
Which isn't always a bad thing
It must be nice (not being facetious here) to turn on ESPN and see coverage of your team 24/7. I kind of wish we had that sometimes.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think most NFL or sports teams in general
have had players make some bad moves. It is hard to blame Tanny for taking a chance on our guys, we got the Pats and the Dolphins in our division who seem to get better every year.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
haha, yes, yes I should
because I clearly know squat about them.
Like I said. Yes, we have more arrests than you this year. None of them are being magnified like yours are, because you’re in a larger market and every move you guys make is under a microscope. That was my only point in this whole thing.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
ok I agree
But why should it matter if he gets arrested now or during the offseason? he is still a professional athlete a role model and the consequences are the same regardless of what time of year it is. The Jets FO is pissed because they dont need another BS incident when the entire country is already focused on them. is there anyone complaining that the Dolphins were lenient with RB or any of their other guys?
I concur completely man
Pro athlete, role model, etc.. totally agree.
Nobody was complaining, no. It was just sort of a, “we don’t need this right now from you guys” attitude. We were down on Merling for his battery charge, the Brown thing kind of blew over because it was a first-time thing and after acknowledging he was stupid for doing it, it wasn’t a big deal.
Not saying that makes it right. Just saying it wasn’t so big an issue and there wasn’t much of a punishment. Granted, tearing an XCL or Achilles as Merling did one of is punishment enough for what he did.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright cool Im gonna go home now
And lets try to keep all the BS out of these forums and concentrate on the X’s and O’s!
Agreed.
Good look, again, to both sides!
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The owner thing I already responded to
entirely different scenario.
Rex isn’t asking for a return on a monetary investment as an investor.
He’s looking for a football return on investment to make him a great coach—intangibles, and completely different motives.
Every owners says, we can win the SB. Only bombastic head coaches say they’ve already won it.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Figureheads of the team
Same exact thing, he says Sparano shares his sentiment as well. So an owner saying his team is going to the superbowl is strictly for monetary reasons and a HC saying it is just because he wants to have a legacy? Sweet argument. Look at the monkey, look at the silly monkey
rofl
You’re missing the point.
Every owner, and I’ll admit every coach says, we can make it to the Super Bowl, why not us?
Why you guys are different is that your coach is saying, We’ve ALREADY won the Super Bowl. Might as well give up, league.
That’s just obnoxious. Come on, man. Don’t be like this.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha.. thus implying they've won it and just have to wait for time to expire to claim it :)
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
if you guys can't understand
how that is a motivational tool, then you guys need to go back to school…or maybe you guys just never played sports in general. Honestly it’s not really even that big of a deal…does it put a target on his back? It probably does…but by now, everyone knows it’s just Rex’s swagger.
And I’m completely convinced that if the tables were turned around and Rex was the Dolphins HC saying the same thing, you guys would be thumping your chests twice as hard.
Not really
I personally despise such displays of cockiness. I wasn’t a fan of the whole Ross saying we should compete for the Super Bowl thing, regardless of the fact that it was a motivational tool and that he should expect a return on his investment.
I mean, say it behind closed doors. Don’t put a target on your back; show it on the field that you deserve it. Words mean nothing.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 25, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
As a Jets fan...
Lemme add that the PI call that gave US the touchdown on the deep pass was total crap. I mean, I’m glad we scored, but that was a terrible call and was anything but PI. I really hated that game on about every level. (Watching our defense fold against the Wild Cat was frustrating as hell too.)
Oh I know that game wasn't called very well
But that doesn’t really matter once the game is over and a W/L is posted to your record
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunate, yes
Matter? No
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That will get called every single time in the NFL...
Kickers aren’t really football players, and the league protects them like they are not football players … get over it. It was a stupid play and your guy knew he would get called if his body was in the way of the kicker putting his foot down.
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
#3 plus an addition...
I think #3 is the big one. We need to ride the wave coming out of last week’s win and keep going like the fourth quarter never ended.
With that said, I hope the team is taking this game seriously and does not underestimate the Fish. They’re a good team. I just don’t want the team to go into this gaming thinking, “We beat the Patriots… so taking on these bozos will be a cakewalk.” I doubt that’s gonna happen, but it could. I believe the Dolphins are for real and, even if they aren’t, they should be treated as such. This game is HUGE in terms of making a statement of our own.
I hope the second half Mark Sanchez from last week shows up too. That’d be nice.
I doubt it will happen either
And I appreciate the respect that some Jets fans have.
I for one believe your team is excellent, and wouldn’t overlook this game if paid to.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys rocked in the Metrodome....
So I can tell you most of us take you VERY seriously.
And of course, we you.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't ever look at the Jets games as a gimme.
Especially in the last few years. You guys have built up a tough team and it will be a big challenge to beat you guys. Which is part of the reason we have amped up the hype in Miami, to give as strong of a home field advantage as we can.
Plus, as with all divisional games, both teams are gonna come out and play much harder because of the rivalries. Hell, even Buffalo steps up their play when it’s a divisional game.
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I agree with that....
I take your defense very very seriously. Your offense, my personal jury is still out on.
I’m sure you feel the exact same about our team.
This will be a great game to watch…. (unless we get blown out, then it’ll suck) hehe
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It will be a close game
Mangold will be limited and I think Starks will give him a tough time because he is injured. I don’t think Long will have much problems with Taylor. Dolphins’ starting guard John Jerry probably won’t play. But I still think that the offenses will be able to move the ball well at times. I don’t see either team turning the ball over much. I’m going with a score of 20-17 Dolphins. Good luck all
I saw a tweet today that was intriguing...
Both of our teams are averaging 126 yards per game rushing so far this year :)
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Jets victory!
With Bill gone, the voodoo has left the house. Miami is not in Jets class player-for-player, even with injuries. Jets were a growing team without an identity in first loss last year, and whooped Miami’s butt on the field but lost in scoreboard on two KOs. Time for the streak to end. Go Jets! 24-7.
Well...
We were a young team growing when we beat you guys 2x last year. We were lucky that the one guy on our team that was a complete and total void when it came to any type of production at WR decided to show up for even if it was only for special teams that game, which allowed us to win that game. Given the fact that #19 has been drastically upgraded over last year, we are in a much better spot offensively than we were last year when we swept you guys.
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
24-7
So even after the intelligent fans of your group have admitted that what you’re saying here—that the Jets are pound-for-pound, player-by-player far more talented than the Dolphins, on paper—is crock, you’re still on the ignorance bandwagon that says you’re going to blow us out in our home opener?
Didn’t the Chargers/Chiefs game tell you anything? San Diego is a far superior team to KC. More talent across the board, especially at QB. Chiefs still won, and don’t look now; it was their home opener.
We have similar talent to you and it’s our home opener. I don’t know what in the world leads you to believe you’ll blow us out in this one.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 24, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shout out to Melbourne!
To my friends in Melbourne, take no offense from my latest rant. I know you hated me when I wore that Jets shirt around town. Haha! Writing now from Beijing—so you can imagine my increased preception from the Forbidden City. Who can tell me which radio station to listen to on live streaming? Game Jets!
Like I said on another thread, no way this is a blowout
Neither the Jets or Dolphins ever get blown out. It doesn’t happen. Teams with good defenses and ball-control, don’t-turn-the-ball-over offenses don’t get blown out.
I can't call this game, I hope the Jets win
I am nervous about the key guys we are missing. This game will be a battle to the end, I am excited to get a look at Wake live, on the highlighs he has looked beastly.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
He is a lot of fun to watch...
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 24, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
If I heard it correct...
He was in a different league last year or something right? It sounded like a good story with a nice ending, he worked his ass of to get to the NFL and he is making an impact.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
2 years ago he was in the CFL.
He was a situational pass rusher for us last year, and showed sparks of greatness….
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o i c
still a good story, was he suppose to replace JT? And how did fans feel about wake replacing him? or maybe porter
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
We were begging for him to replace them last year ...
We knew what this kid could do…. Actually, once we heard that Porter would send this guy off the field when he came in to replace him, I was personally ready to get rid of Porter.
We had to be excited given the things that JT was saying about Wake. “I think maybe five years from now, maybe one year from now,” Taylor wrote, “People in Miami will quickly forget about me and talk about Cameron Wake because I think he has that kind of talent.”
Here is the article
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 25, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
As usual, I completely disagree with Jason.....
Most Fin fans wanted Jason Taylor back, and were frustrated with our Front Offices lack of movement in contract talks. Taylor was supposed to be the veteran voice and leadership on defense that would help mentor the new players. That being said, everyone also knew that we had exceptional talent in Cameron Wake, and expected him to flourish.
We all wanted him to be used more, and more, and more…. but we also knew that he was a liability in coverage…..which is something they’ve rectified and worked heavily on. He had 39 sacks in 2 years in CFL, so obviously we wanted to see what he could do as a full time player and not a part time player.
I don’t know any fan that was begging for Wake to replace JT last year. Porter, maybe, because his play wasn’t backing up his mouth…. JT didn’t really perform at a high level for the last half of the season, but he played consistent, which on last year’s team meant he was a superstar.
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Let me rephrase then ...
If you go back and look I wanted Porter gone …I actually thought we should have keep JT around and I was upset at both sides for their part … We do have 2 OLBs after all and we did not have anyone on the other side at that time.
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 25, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I gotta give you something to disagree with ....
Its what I live for … ;)
Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 25, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
special teams should not
be overlooked. And I do think there will be a lot of penalties.
Phins 13 Jets 10. Ugly win it will be
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