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Should Braylon Edwards Have Been Suspended For The Miami Game?

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So twitter has been Jets crazy this morning:

1) A rumour circulated that the Jets were getting ready to cut Braylon Edwards. Of course most people brushed it off as nonsense as it made no logical sense at all. However some were concerned because the rumour originated from Incarcerated Bob who between getting plenty of stories wrong, sometimes (on the odd occasion) hits the nail on the head. Like with the Revis signing. However most Jets tweeters didn't see him as a reliable source, and according to Pro Football Talk, who have done some digging, these rumours are completely false. Lets be honest, they were false form the start.

2) The question of Braylon's "team" punishment has again reared it's ugly head. Wanting to focus just on the football is difficult when people continue to call for his head in relation to his playing status this weekend. After reading several people's opinion, it seemed to be 70%-30% in favour of Braylon playing this weekend and allowing the courts to handle the necessary punishment. Although Braylon said that he would not have fought the Jets if they did decide to suspend him, it would have been against the players unions agreement.

So I thought I'd put this question to the readers of GGN in poll format. It makes it far easier to gage the opinions of people as a whole.

Should the Jets take the punishment into their own hands and hurt the team this weekend by completely suspending him and deactivating him for the game. However at the same time sending a clear message and setting a clear precedent that if you break the law, the team will punish you on top of the courts.

Or should the Jets allow the laws/rules put in place by New York State and the NFL commissioners office to punish Braylon to the extent that has already been agreed upon by law. Make a statement to the team about their conduct off the field (see story yesterday about Rex Ryan) but not put at risk a victory over the divisional rival dolphins by further punishing Braylon.

Personally I'm going with option #2, let the court laws fine him, suspend his license, force him to take classes on the possible ramifications of drunk driving and even do some community service. Let them handle the legal side of his stupidity, and let the Jets do what they are here to do. Win football games.

Pro Football Talk does talk about other incidents involving DUI's which didn't lead to the team suspending the players, including Ronnie Brown and Will Allen from Miami. We can also add Kareem McKenzie of the Giants to that list.

**Braylon has already been told that he will play but will not start this weekend. This poll is purely for finding out how the majority of Jets fans would have handled this situation. If you want to give your reasons for voting either way, go ahead and leave a comment**

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Should Braylon Edwards Have Been Suspended For This Weeks Game Against Miami?
Yes
469 votes
No
694 votes

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I dont see the point of suspending him from work for something that had nothing to do with it. Its not like he’s walking away free with no consequences NY court will do whatever they think is neccessary most likely beyond that. It just seems like some people just want to see him suffer.

by JetsFan718 on Sep 23, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

And if any of you got caught drinking and driving on Saturday and showed up to work on Monday and your boss fired you (or suspended you or fined you) you’d probably sue the $^*# out of them. How many DUIs are sitting around your desk right now?

And what about OH? Heard this might impact his probation there. At the least, this will cost him $1MM in future contract negotiations. So I think the free markets and the courts will take care of Braylon and other idiot DUIers.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't that rule

Also mean you don’t think a player should be suspended for narcotic use, manslaughter, sexual assault, robbery, etc.? None of those really have anything to do with their work.

by Finhead83 on Sep 24, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

if suspending him is against the players union agreement, why is this even a discussion?

by joey d on Sep 23, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I think because he said that he would not ask the players union to look into it if he were suspended. It’s also a hot topic amongst Jets fans right now, and I’m firmly in the he shouldn’t be suspended boat, so wanted to see if others agreed.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1000000000000000000000

Geez, this is the only thing that matters. Suspension isnt even an option.. This whole topic is what-if’ing something that is cut and dry.

Maybe he should serve 30 days in jail. But that has nothing to do with the NFL.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

phins

I love how everyone blows up about a DUI charge for a Jets player when over the summer 4 or 5 dolphins were arrested for DUIs and beating their wives and girlfriends. Guess it just comes with the territory

by MA Jets Fan on Sep 23, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

There were quite a few Miami fans pissed at Ronnie and others...

much as there are here about Braylon….

I think the difference in Ronnie’s situation, was he has never had a single off field incident. Whereas Braylon has. I also think everyone’s assessment of the situation of Braylon is inflated because of Braylon’s involvement in the Stallworth incident.

Just my opinion.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 23, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Opinons are fine to have, and I respect what you wrote, but rules are rules. CBA stipulates how to handle this, and idiots like Brown and Edwards are the beneficiaries of these rules.

BUT the court systems are another story and both should be punished for their dumb and dangerous behavior.

Braylon will pay for this during free agency when there is less interest in him forcing whoever signs (or resigns) him to offer less than he might otherwise have received.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely agree with that.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 23, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 or 5 dolphins?

Over the summer? February and march are not summer. Will allen probably won’t ever play for the Dolphins again, Ronnie brown has no past incidents with the law unlike Braylon who’s been in trouble multiple times in the past that’s why lots of people talk about it. All these players were fined and went through the legal process. But the stupid thing about Edwards is he gets in trouble during the season.

by Dolphins21MZ on Sep 23, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

NO!

Let the courts handle the punishment just like they would for any one else. If he was not a high profile individual nobody would even know about it. Let Braylon deal with the consequences of his mistake in judgement. Don’t punish the team or fans by having one of the essential players sit out for an important game, It will be handled in the off-season by the legal system. As someone else posted even if he was willing to sit out he couldn’t because the CBA prohibits the players from ignoring the rules so he has no say nor does the Jets front office.

by NYC KID on Sep 23, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Rules are Rules

The kicker steps on Braylon and Braylon gets called for roughing the kicker. Terrible call that probably cost us the game against Baltimore. The only argument you got on that is the rules are the rules and the kicker must have a place to land his leg. Fine. The rules are also the rules as to disciplining a player under the CBA and the rules don’t call for a suspension by the League or allow a team to suspend a player regarding a first offense of the substance abuse policy. So you either follow the rules or you don’t. Period.

by USA on Sep 23, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

+100000000000

BTW, I loved how Baltimore complained about getting bad calls agains them in week 2. Welcome to our world in week 1.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you get suspended in the offseason?

The Dolphins players incidents were during the off season. YES THEY WERE WRONG AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE what could the team do then?

Ronnie and Will have NO other incidents however Braylon has a few and is currently on probation

But no don’t suspend him cuz were tired of hearing excuses after we beat the Jets and this would just add to it

by afceast on Sep 23, 2010 10:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

What difference does it make if its during the season or not?

If an act warrants suspension then it warrants suspension regardless of when it occurs. Big Ben was raping girls in the off-season. Should he not have been suspended?

by Crackback on Sep 23, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

This may be the first time I've seen afceast's point.

Big Ben violated NFL rules that led to his suspension so he was suspended according to NFL policies and suspended regular season games. The Fins players were also fined according to NFL policies as will Braylon. I don’t think it would have been in anyone’s best interests for the FIns to suspend those players for regular season games some weeks or months later. The reason I think the Jets should suspend him is because it’s an immediate and thus more effective punishment.

His last sentence though shows his still little dilutional afceast who loves them flame wars.

by Timmaht on Sep 23, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw CBs post below and would also like to change “suspend” to “bench”.

by Timmaht on Sep 23, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+100

why would when it happens make any difference.

by Judgegavel on Sep 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you get suspended in the offseason?

The Dolphins players incidents were during the off season. YES THEY WERE WRONG AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE what could the team do then?

Ronnie and Will have NO other incidents however Braylon has a few and is currently on probation

But no don’t suspend him cuz were tired of hearing excuses after we beat the Jets and this would just add to it

by afceast on Sep 23, 2010 10:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Hmm.. I think the NFL can suspend for the first x number of games if you violate the rules

but Ronnie Brown wasnt suspended (and braylon shouldn’t either) cause the players union and the owners decided a while back that substance abuse results in a fine, not suspension.

Both these players, and everyone else caught DUI should get the book thrown at them by the courts. They are the APPROPRIATE governing body regarding DUI.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He shouldn't be suspended simply because nobody else in the league has for doing what he did.

If its the frst time, and no accident occured and nobody was hurt, then you get a pass. The league and the Jets can’t all the sudden hold braylon and themselves to a higher standard than they do for everybody else because a lot of people hate the Jets and are looking for any reason they can to sling mud at the franchise.

by Crackback on Sep 23, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

This^^

All Time Favorite Dolphin's gotta be the Zonk! or Kiick! or Morris!

by rintintinsoldier on Sep 23, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

But below, you paint a different story…

Fact is, the CBA outlines how to deal with substance abuse issues. And while Braylon isnt an angel (fights, speeding, whatnot) the rules are the rules.

The NY courts are the appropriate governing body to hand out punishment, and the NFL CBA agrees, aside from a fine.
Also, if your boss cut suspended you at work if you had a DUI (and you didnt drive for a living) you might sue them. Dumb, yes! Punishable according to the CBA, no.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

My boss at work can fire me for any reason without explanation.

The Jets/NFL cannot “suspend” Braylon (i.e. deactivate him and dock his pay), but the Jets can certainly refuse to let him play.

You’re getting too technical on the definition of the word “suspend” and its ramifications under the CBA. The Jets have every right to take a stand against this behavior and to take actions to try to prevent future occurrences by other team members. I think the author was referring to the Jets refusing to allow Braylon to play. Not a literal suspension.

The Jets benching Braylon would not trigger a violation under the CBA.

by Crackback on Sep 23, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if you found out your boss fired you cause you were [enter nationality, race, religion, whatever] here, you can sue.

Anyway, I read somewhere on the web (so it must be true) that benching for an entire game could be picked up by the players union and brought to arbitration if they feel it was done in response to the DUI. Of course the team could always argue that he want prepared to play due to missing practice, sleep, whatever, but who wants to prolong this in the news for months?

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raping a chick in the bathroom (allegedly) is one thing, after raping a chick at a casino (allegedly). So is shooting a bouncer in a strip bar, or being present when someone got stabbed to death. But driving intoxicated is another thing entirely. Pretty dumb thing to get bent out of shape about if you asked me.

by nationalist88 on Sep 23, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since you can’t take his pay away, it is nonsensical to not play him

by lund123 on Sep 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Business Ethics

As a business the New York Jets have a Ethical Responsibility to do what is best for the employees, customers, environment, and anyone who may be impacted by ripples that occur from the decisions they make. There is a large grey area in this matter as there is in any ethical debate because of the many variables that each individual has in their moral makeup which govern ethical behavior. If you were to look at who it would hurt/benefit by sitting Braylon Edwards the answer is staggering. The fans would obviously be upset with a Jet loss. His presence is pretty important when it comes to that possibility. One loss may result in missing the playoffs which leads to financial bonuses for the franchise and its players. So the team would suffer. Braylon on the other hand would miss playing a football game. He still would get paid. Does this teach him a lesson? Not really, it’s a slap on the wrist. In essence not running around catching footballs is hardly a punishment for such a severe infraction. On the flip side there is the choice to play him. In this case all previously mentioned parties would benefit in exactly the opposite way as mentioned above. However, the organization may take a black eye for discipline standards and people who are sensitive to DUI may be very hurt by the decision. Either way, someone is effected. The decision is simple. Which choice hurts the fewest people? You tell me.

by Mimishomeboy on Sep 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Treating it as a business....

We all want athletes to be treated like everyone else. So he’s my point.

If this was the average person, he would be booked and released on bail (or personal recognizance of some sort) and have to show up to court at a later date. But he would go work after his release and receive no punishment from his employer (assuming he has no security issues). There would be no fine form his employer, assuming the incident does not affect his job performance (which as a general rule it wouldn’t).

So Edwards will receive some sort of punishment from the NFL (his employers) AND still have to go through the juducial system.

Roger Goodell has put into motion a host of punishments for situations such as these. I’m not here to condone anyone’s actions, but rather to bring forth the fact that he is being treated in accordance with the rule of law. change the law if it’s warranted, but don’t alter the punishment to suit a specific incident.

by oldskooljet on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This situation reminds me of that scene in Liar, Liar,

where Jim Carrey says, “Objection!” The judge asks, “why?” “Because it’s devastating to my case!”

I don’t think he should be suspended for this incident, because there is no precedent. If the league feels that this counts as a second violation, then they can suspend him. But from a Dolphin’s fan standpoint, I would love to see him suspended. We want him suspended, because without him, the Jets have nobody except Keller.

Dolphins and Gators baby!

by gatorfin on Sep 23, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Suspend Ronnie Brown first

Then come here and talk about Braylon ;)

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a miami fan I want him to play

so that he can continue his line of stupidity ON the field. Flagged for taunting once…and very close to a second time in one game. Let him rack up all the stupidity he can against himself.

by Doug Maxton on Sep 23, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I take it he’d be taunting after a TD like he did against New England, so does that really make sense? basically saying you want him to play to score a TD against you.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cotch

Why does everyone forget about cotchery again? Probably the most consistent receiver in his tenure here and creates devastating matchup problems if he lines up in the slot, but by all means, I hope the dolphins dont account for him on sunday either

by MA Jets Fan on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played well against the Phins last year too. But they’re thinking that their D is incredible right now, so let them keep thinking that.

by Crackback on Sep 23, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets be real about this...

The reason Braylon is playing is because he was a Dolphin killer last year and the Jets want to win this game. If Santonio Holmes was on the field, or if we had Buffalo this week rather than next week, Braylon’s ass would be getting splinters.

The Jets simply don’t want to give up this game. And they figure why suspend the guy when we can use him to win, and if Holmes outplays him when he comes back, Braylon suspension will fall into somebody else’s lap next year? Also, if Holmes plays well, they can negotiate Braylon’s salary way down.

Ethics and morality never entered the equation at all. Nor has the concern over their public image.

by Crackback on Sep 23, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

No

CBA wont permit any suspension penalty for a 1st offense.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

It may fal under the personal conduct policy as a violation of his parole. The Commisioner’s powers under the PCP is entirely too broad, but he has the discretion to pretty much do whatever the hell he wants to.

As for the Jets, yes they technically can’t suspennd him, but they can bench his ass whenever they feel like it for however long they want to.

by Crackback on Sep 23, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

but until GODdell gets out of bed, into the barn and onto his high horse, this is still substance abuse. but GODdell obviously does whatever he wants (ala ben roethlisberger) with or without court adjudication, this probably isnt the end of this conversation.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has he tendered a guilty plea yet.

If not then he hasn’t done anything yet and shouldn’t be suspended.
Anyway, like other phin fans I’d rather he played just to leave fewer excuses for the coming Miami win.

by larkyphinfan on Sep 23, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

And do you want to speculate on Miami's excuses when they lose or

will you guys come back to reality and realize you are overhyping your team. We realize our team has fault and discuss them all the time. Fins fans find no faults with your team as you kids are delusional.

by Timmaht on Sep 23, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Miami Loses, I'll come over here and write a nice big congrats post....

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by Fr8Train on Sep 23, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No need to be hostile Judge, if we do win and the Dolphins fans who are good members here at GGN take it on the chin and are good losers it makes everyone’s life easier. Would expect the same from our members if we lose.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 24, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not trying to be hostile Dave...

I’ve had some good debate back and forth with Fr8. I just hate those posts, they tend to be half hearted or filled with half excuses or backhanded compliments, and are just not worth the time to write or read. I know Fr8’s a fish fan, I know he will suffer when he loses, he doesn’t have to further demean himself with a pointless post to Jets fans.

by Judgegavel on Sep 24, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. As of now the poll is 70-30. What a coincidence.

by revis_island on Sep 23, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Dumb

1. He is dumb for drinking and driving.
2. You are dumb for asking this question – the Jets hands are tied by the CBA and cannot just do whatever they want or the players union will jump in.
3. I am dumb for taking the time to write this
4. Jets fans are dumb if you think they’ll cut Braylon.
5. Miami fans are dumb if they think he should be suspended cause they have a DUIer on their team (Ronnie Brown) who isnt suspended.
6. The NFL is dumb if they think this is Rex Ryan’s fault or the team’s fault.
7. Browns fans are dumb for saying “only a matter of time”… This is why we gave you next to nothing for him in the first place.
8. Patriot fans are dumb. No particular reason, except they are Patsies fans.
9. The NY courts are dumb. They will either have to treat him like everyone else (slap on the wrist) or make an example of him (ala Plaxico) and either way are going to get crucified.
10. The Ohio courts are dumb cause they are going to have to answer questions about whether or not DWI violates his probation.
11. Lastly, anyone calling for his head is dumb. You should not be worried about braylon and instead, need to worry about yourself, your next door neighbor, and others in your community that drink and drive. This is a nationwide problem and is not a “coke” or “sexual abuse” or “gambling” issue that always seems like someone else’s community. Drinking and Driving affects every community, every street, every home in the US. And dont cast the first stone at Braylon unless you are POSITIVE you never drove home over the legal limit… cause I bet you did and didn’t even know or care at least once if you ever knocked back an alcoholic beverage.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I can tell you unequivocally a DWI/DUI/OWI charge is 100% a violation of Ohio Probation.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 23, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd expect a plea deal down to reckless op, and then this whole deal goes away.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 23, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I likey this, I love this

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by MikeTheIntern on Sep 23, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. Agreed

2. I stipulated at the bottom of the article that this is purely based on what the fans would want to happen and that the Jets have already said what will happen. So read again.

3. Agreed again

4. I never said they would cut Braylon in fact I said it was false from the start. Might need to read the point again.

5. Agreed.

6. Agreed

7. Agreed

8. True (mostly but with exceptions)

9. The courts will do what the law stipulates, not dumb.

10. Would have to check that.

11. Again I’m not calling for his head, and said unequivocally in the article that I go with option #2 which states the courts will do what they need to do, it’s not the Jets duty to take action.

Will add a 12th, and that’s I’m dumb for wasting my time replying to your post which you admit you were dumb to waste your time with.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fact I’ve got the part for you about the whole point of this post, which is general interest for me:

Braylon has already been told that he will play but will not start this weekend. This poll is purely for finding out how the majority of Jets fans would have handled this situation

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it, but....

Thanks for taking the time to humor me… I like your articles. Anyway, my 11 “dumbs” werent addressed at you (actually none of them really were). I realize you were just polling the crowd. My 11 were really addressed to everyone in the whole world who is concerned with how the Jets should deal with Braylon.

I think Braylon acted dumb, but we are all the biggest hypocrite dummies because I’m sure at least 90% of the people out there reading this have either 1) driven home over the legal limit, 2) got in the car with somone over the legal limit, 3) didnt prevent someone from driving home who was over the legal limit, 4) kept buying drinks (or allowed them to do so) for those who already had too much to drink 5) texted while driving (which is probably more dangerous than driving drunk since you arent even looking at the road).

And then we all sit here (and on other sites) and pass judgement, meanwhile we should probably start closer to home if we want to worry about drunk driving.

Oh, almost forgot, “F Belichick”
So really, I am trying to call everyone dumb, even me, but especially those that are calling out Braylon. Dont take it personal.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

At first I was on the fence

But now, I don’t think he should be suspended. The law will go forward with the consequences of issuing a DWI and Braylon will suffer (probably not that much though).

If this were to become a consistent problem than standards might be different. But till then, let the kid play.

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by JRig on Sep 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Would you sign someone with Braylon’s past record to a huge “Brandon Marshall” type contract extension or free agent contract at the end of the year? Probably not since he is one mistake from a 4 game suspension. So he will be paid below market value for his skills once the year ends and that is how he will suffer. If he is paid $5M a season instead of $6M for a 4 year deal, this DUI will cost $4M…

Not to mention he might have his probation revoked in ohio and might face some criminal penalties in NY. the NFL/Jets doesnt need to worry about punishing this guy – the system will work all around him to make sure others see what happens when you act dumb.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can’t be suspended, the team can’t do it, and he can’t waive his union right to allow it. So all the media posturing is just that. Willis of the Post, and Meyers and Lupica of the Daily News know this yet because of their hate of the Jets they want to paint this as them being right about the Jets lacking chemistry and imploding due to risky players. Rex filpped Mia fans the bird! Lets forget they spit on him. We ate cheeseburgers at practice, oh the HORROR! We threw footballs to get a closer look at the self proclaimed sexiest reporter in Mexico whose attire was inappropriate for her profession. And Braylon got a DWI. These things were wrong but how do they make the Jets a team of thugs? Why are the Jets being held to a higher standard then Miami? Two players with DUIs and Two players with domestic abuse chargers? What’s worse eating cheeseburgers at practice, flipping fans the bird, telling everyone in the world you are going to win the SB OR beating your pregnant girlfriend? We get killed for taking Bray cuz he punched someone yet where was the anti Phins or Raven articles for signing Marshall whose actions lead to the murder of a teamate or Stallworth who killed someone? The hypocrisy is amazing!

by george JETson on Sep 23, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Edwards was with Stallworth the night Stallowrth ran over an killed a guy he should know better

Not to mention the jets are a team that wants attention. The jets asked for it, they should have stayed quiet and under the radar but no rex ryan talks all the time insults other teams and players in the media, predicts winning superbowls. And you forget to mention Santonio who assaulted some woman and takes drugs. And Cromartie. All am saying is the reason for this is the jets own fault they brought it upon themselves.

by Dolphins21MZ on Sep 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holmes offences were under taken on another team, in another city under their circumstances not ours. So there should be one rule for one team because they have a confident demeanour and another rule for teams that don’t? that makes absolutely no sense. Also obviously forgetting that the Jets are one of the most well behaved teams in the league. The league average for arrests over the past 10 years have been 16…the Jets are on just 8 including Braylon. Saying we brought it on ourself because we like to talk about football and winning is absolutely rubbish, and could only come from someone who’s eyes are tinted. Are we a bunch of choir boys? absolutely not, but are we any worse than any other team in the league? absolutely not. Teams like the Giants/Colts and Saints have all had more arrests than we have.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Fins Fan, I don't agree with this ^

Every team has players who have had or are currently having legal issues, misdemeanors or whatever they are.

Miami has had some during 2010 — Ronny Brown DUI, Will Allen, etc. Edwards should have known better, but some people (not just players) never learn from past mistakes. He shouldn’t be suspended and I don’t think he should be held out of the game on Sunday. The Jets did not bring this on themselves any more than Miami brought Marshall’s past troubles on themselves when they traded for him.

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by rintintinsoldier on Sep 23, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

My reply was to Dolphins21MZ, sorry for confusion

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by rintintinsoldier on Sep 23, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 Well said. Completely agree.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes rumors and prior problems are a risk you need to accept to get stars.

There were rumors that Marino was a coke head before he was drafted by Miami… Sometimes you need to take a chance on a player. Sometimes you’re ok (like drafting Coles) and sometimes you get trouble. Same goes for trading for people who screwed up in the past. Not everyone is a bad egg.

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by NC_Scott on Sep 23, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

cro committed what crime? Santonio’s charge with throwing a glass at the woman was dropped. I’m not pointing out that the Jets are without sin but other teams have the same problem player and issues. I’m pointing out that it’s wrong to single them out. The writers I named are NY writers. The fact is the Dolphins and jets and most teams for that matter are filled with good guys. Braylon had spent the early evening at a charity even being hel by J Cothchery, on the leaders on our team. These articles attacking the Jets aren’t about NFL teams value integrity or morals over winning, if it were they would come down on all teams,(thats what I was trying to point out). Instead they are using this to attack the Jets because they don’t like the team or how Rex carries himself. Lets call a spade a spade.

by george JETson on Sep 23, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently it’s a crime to have faith and belief in your team, if you talk about football…..any wrong doings on your team should be treated with vast exaggeration and different standards to teams who stay quiet and are devoid of any personality.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who said it was a crime?

What am saying is the jets bring a lot of attention to themselves. So jets fans shouldn’t complain about all the attention this accident is getting. The reason the ronnie brown dui thing didn’t get a lot of attention was because the Dolphins as a franchise are really low key.

by Dolphins21MZ on Sep 23, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Ellis incident in 2008 got quite a lot of attention as well from the usual sources that have had a problem with this and that was under the Mangini regiment when the Jets were very “low key”….the Jets didn’t bring it on themselves by talking about Superbowls or having faith in the team, it’s because it’s a NY team.

Jets fans can complain about the inconsistencies in sports reporting all they like. You said the jets asked for this because we talk about having faith in our players and the goal being a Superbowl.

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I don’t like giving the players so many chances, but it is what it is. Thank god no one gotten hurt. And hopefully everyone learned heir lesson. Go Jets.

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by Jeterian 2 on Sep 23, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

NO

People can inflate Braylon’s case over Stallworth, but guess what Braylon didn’t commit that crime!! Braylon also hasn’t had his day in court. Whatever happened with “innocent until proven guilty”? I also find it odd, he’s pulled at around 5 am!!! for questions about window tinting!! He wasn’t pulled over for erratic driving!! May just be a case of an over zealous officer ran his plates, saw he had a celebrity & made something happen.

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by MarcAsh on Sep 23, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

NO

One more, what about Ferguson & Gholston? If they were any less drunk, why wasn’t one of them behind the wheel? Not a single one of them called the player protect program.

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by MarcAsh on Sep 23, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t be completely sure about this, but sure I read that Gholston or Brick said that they didn’t notice that Braylon was in any way impaired, and that from now on they will be calling the player protect program. (think it was Vernon who said that).

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by David_Wyatt on Sep 23, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't like punishing players before they've been tried

I loathe Michael Vick, but I wanted him to have his day in court too.

The Roethlisberger mess is indicative that somewhere eventually we are going to have the draw the line and stop the preemption. It was deeply satisfying to see the league hold a man accountable that the law had failed to because of who he is. BUT, should everyone be punished as soon as they make the news? Granted there was a pattern, but there’s a pattern for irresponsible or reckless behavior in countless players.

Let’s say.someone random…ohhh….Eric Barton, was accused of something especially heinous. You take the knee jerk Goodell approach to save face with the mainstream media. Now let’s say the same man is completely and unequivocally cleared of any wrongdoing. What do you do salvage the life and career of someone you just tarnished even further? Are they within their rights to sue?

Now, let’s cast that aside to look at our situation. Braylon Edwards failed a breathalyzer. For those of us who are realistic you know that means there is only one end to this debacle: a guilty plea bargain. The situation will not resolve itself any other way so you can quit dreaming. Union agreements in place means we cannot dole out any meaningful punishment.

Furthermore, the league has opted not to punish Edwards, who is not exactly a role model, presumably because he hasn’t been caught driving drunk before. I say caught because if you think it’s his first time well…we’re just two very different people and you can stop wasting your time reading this and go watch Wipeout or some crap.

So, why should we punish somebody the league refuses to when he hasn’t been afforded due process when we’re practically forbidden from it, legally speaking? Because the idiots at shutdown corner aren’t researched enough to know we CAN’T really punish him? Because the media is up in arms?

How does this issue of more fake moral outrage directed towards sports figures not reflect on the national league and their policy as a whole, and rather on the team it affects? Because 1) people don’t understand the red tape and 2) the Jets have a target on their back from all the press they got this offseason.

The league won’t do anything. The state has a long process to take hold. The team technically isn’t supposed to do anything. So what are we talking about here? Sitting a guy for the purposes of wagging our collective finger at him and saving face with the media and other teams. Frankly, I don’t give a shit what other football teams fans and crew think about us. They’re going to hate us and talk down our character, or lack thereof, no matter what the circumstances.

Personally, this question is like being asked “should we castrate all sex offenders?” Probably would be my answer, if it were legal or possible. But it isn’t. So it’s nothing more than a waste of mental energy to appease reactionary folks outside of the football world.

by Bro Namath on Sep 23, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

The "castrating of sex offenders"(especially the pedophiles) would be a very good idea, actually.

but that’s just my opinion.

As far as Braylon goes, this is a non-issue with the NFL. It’s all in the hands of the legal system.

by BrockRocks on Sep 24, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

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