'Fireman Ed' Could Face Simple Assault Charge
by Matt Birch on Sep 23, 2010 12:14 AM EDT
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PrintIf you are a Jets' fan, you know all about Ed Anzalone. Also known as "Fireman Ed," he is the unofficial Jets' mascot who has a long history of being a GangGreen super-fan. If you happen to be lucky enough to be seated anywhere in the vicinity of section 124 where he resides (Per Erik Manassy, our good friend over at JetsTwit), you will hear one man who can unite an entire stadium. When he starts a J-E-T-S chant, the entire stadium reacts to his every movement. He is our spark that gets the crowd going, and he is an intricate 12th man/PSL owner who is present at every home game.
Unfortunately, for his actions during the preseason game against the Giants, he could face simple assault charges. These charges are stemming from his physical altercation with Giants' fan, Christopher Black, which took place during the game (shown below).
According to NJ Star-Ledger, Black's lawyer, Alexander Iler, said an East Rutherford judge agreed to charge Anzalone after a probable cause hearing. While the order was approved, local and county law enforcement officials could not confirm whether Anzalone had been criminally charged as of tonight
Here is a clip showing what happened during the game,
The 51-year-old retired New York City firefighter now resides in East Rutherford, just miles from the stadium. That's just how committed he is. He's a firefighter, and a class act. How about you do the right thing, Mr. Christopher Black, and drop these frivolous charges. Instead of demanding money, let's just watch some football, deal?
FREE FIREMAN ED!!
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what a douche
If he decked the guy then fine, all he did was slightly touch him to move him out of the way. This guy is making Giant fans look bad imo. It is pretty obvious trying to get a rise out of people was black’s only motivation.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Seriously?
This is absolutely ridiculous. This guy is make Giants fans and their organization seem like a bunch of pansies. He was acting like a douche and tried to get in the way of Fireman Ed doing his thing. A thing that is known around the NFL when you play the Jets. And some stupid judge agreed to waste everyone’s time and actually hear this? Wow…you can take someone to court over anything these days…
This will blow over and this douche bag Giants fan will hopefully be put in his place…
That wasn’t during the Ravens game, it happened in our preseason match against the Giants. Actually found its way onto ESPN…
This is BS, and yet another unneeded black eye for the organization. Idiot fan provoked Ed, and got what he deserved. Hope it gets ruled as frivolous and tossed aside ASAP.
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Come join me as I fanatically follow the goys in green!
At least we aren’t DOLL-Fans. That’s very gay.
by NYR #35 Richter on Sep 23, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
and atleast he didn’t spit in anybody’s face… Oh wait that’s a Miami thing
by airamerica11 on Sep 23, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Giants Fans have gotten pathetic thru the years
I don’t know when it got started, or how it got started. NY Football Giants fans of recent years have acted like jerks and idiots. I was in the parking lot several years ago at the old Giants Stadium and I had tickets for the annual Pre-season game (Jets were the visitors as this was Pennington’s injured non-throwing wrist game). I invited my friend who is a Giants fan and we tailgated. These Giants fans are walking towards the stadium & one of them is on his cell phone.
He decides to come up to me & intentionally knocks down a bottle of beer, that wasn’t mine. It was my friend’s, I got so upset I jumped up and told him off. Then he comes up to me and wants to tell me he is going to give me a dollar for the beer he knocked down & tells me “Jets Suck” I told him to get out of my face and just walk away. I told him that beer was my friend who is a Giants Fan.
I am not saying the old guard are like this. The old time classy Giants fans, but these new ones are pathetic and a complete joke. They are a disgrace to their dad’s who are real Giants fans. Not these snot nosed brats. Just a bunch of idiots that have disgraced Giants fans of old.
by NYR #35 Richter on Sep 23, 2010 2:27 AM EDT reply actions
What does FishNFinz and Christopher Black have in common??
1. Both are complete tools
2. Both vacation at the same Myrtle Beach resort while shopping at the same gift shop
As for Christopher Black (AKA Douche bag Giant Fan) and his contacting a lawyer because some 51 year old man shoved you??? Really? I have more contact with old ladys shoving me in the produce section of my local grocery store….MAN UP Giant Fan!
nothing serious
The little giant fan invaded his personnel space, provoking fireman Ed to defend himself. I’m surprise a judge actually thought there was enough evidence that a crime was committed.
You guys are all missing out on what is happening here....
Christopher Black was not only arrested after this incident, but banned from the stadium as a result.
Now that Mr. Ed has been arrested, Black is setting up the organization for a lawsuit. If they don’t also ban Mr. Ed from the stadium, its akin to a discriminatory act by the stadium…. which would easily result in a 6 to 7 figure settlement check…… and the last thing the Jets need in light of the Inez Sainz ordeal….
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mr. Ed himself get banned, and you guys to lose a superfan….
I’m not talking trash here, I’m just stating the possible legal entanglements.
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I see what you're saying but Mr. Black is over his head here.
Fireman Ed gets more press then your average person. It’s obvious the Giants fan prevoked him and there are hundreds of witnesses in that section that will attest for that if it comes down to a civil suit. The video shows one thing, but in a civil suit any groups of fans can agree to say anything about him or allege his said anything to provoke Ed and bash the crap out of him character wise in court.
This is even disregarding that fact that the Jets can get Ed a team of laywers if they care enough about the situation. The worse case scenario, they could just go back and recall his ban on, it happens all the time in these tik-tak fights at stadiums where one party is banned for instigating and another isn’t. Mr. Black isn’t banned but is hated on at any game he attends by people that will mess him up alot worse then a shove from a 50+ y/o man.
The thing working in Mr. Black's side is the video footage.
It shows he isn’t assaulting anyone, while Fireman Ed is clearly shown shoving him, and then hitting him (or shoving) with his helmet….. based on the obvious differences in demeanor at the time (Black was being a fool, while Ed was visible mad and agitated), one could say this could be raised to Aggravated Assault.
I seriously doubt the Jets would get a dime to get Fireman Ed a lawyer, unless he is in some way, shape or form under compensation for the team. Not to mention, it would once again raise the Jets organization into the news, instead of just a fan.
I do agree about recalling the ban, but if Ed does end up having charges leveled who knows.
Either way I think the whole thing is petty, but as we’ve all seen, even some petty things can have serious financial repercussions.
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Seen far worse than this....
At last years game vs. Jacksonville, one really obnoxious Jags fan wouldn’t stop, although he was “urged” to. (I know, I didn’t know they had fans either).
He ran his mouth in the bathroom at halftime snf I have to say paid a pretty ugly price. The point is that he left immediately afterwards, and no one really missed him. Charges? Never happened.
If you run your mouth repeatedly at a sporting event, stuff happens.
Not condoning it, just sayin….
This is BULLCRAP!!! I'd gladly give Mr.Black a REAL REASON to drag someone to Court if he wants...
ALL HE DID WAS PUSH HIM OUT OF THE WAY!! HOLY CRAP! IS THIS GUY RETARDED OR SOMETHING?
The Judge is going to tell him to get the hell out of here with that sh*t!!!
If Black has a grievance for being banned from the building, he should take it up WITH THE JETS, Not Fireman Ed.
where's the assault? if that was an assault by the pushing the guy
it would mean people are getting assaulted everyday going to work or something. Stupif charges
by lololol on Sep 23, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. +1
You might as well arrest the entire country ’cause at one time or another you or I have pushed someone out of the way to get through….
this is all bullsh*t.
Well to be honest, This is the exact definition of assault
The law defines assault as
intentional physical contact with another person without their consent
Bumping into someone while going to work is not intentional.
I agree its a petty BS lawsuit, no doubt…. but its a pretty straight forward case. It’s even more so when Fireman Ed uses his Helmet to shove him aside. By legal definition, the helmet can be considered a weapon because he used after his initial shove didn’t work (and the obvious demeanor her carried could make it aggravated assault).
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Did you even LOOK at the video, Fr8? Where was this alleged "Helmet" he had?
Where did you see that he got “shoved DOWN to the ground, not once but twice”? Where??
can you tell me this?
Another question : Why was this guy getting out of his seat and going all the way to where Ed was with the DELIBERATE INTENT to committing CRIMINAL MISCHIEF by provoking Ed?
Can you answer ANY OF THESE?
To add to this :
He had his helmet in his Left Hand but Pushed him with his Right hand. So he didn’t use the Helmet.
Black is an idiot and if Ed is charged with assault, then I hope Black is NEVER EVER allowed into New Meadowlands Stadium again.
If you look at the clip below....
He pushes him with the helmet at the :16 mark.
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Are you watching the same clip I am? WTF?
At the :16 mark, he’s still ALONE, and he’s still revving up the Crowd!! What are YOU watching, pal?
In fact, at the :26 mark, you see that stupid azz come down the aisle from his seat where I believe it was a Long distance from where Ed is.
And then promptly CAUSE TROUBLE.
This case is going to be thrown out because Black had NO REASON to go down to Ed’s place and do this.
In other words :
No matter what happened afterward, it doesn’t matter. Black had NO REASON to do what he did except to cause a disruption.
Ed has been doing this for YEARS now…..and all those years no one has done what that idiot did.
No matter if he was pushed or not pushed, the bottom line is he should’ve kept his fat azz in his seat.
I'm using the clip that was on TV>..not the one in this post...
Here is the link (same one I used below…)
Live broadcast clip of Fireman Ed & Giants Dude
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ah okay. yeah. I also saw him do the two pushes later on in the youtube video as well.
But the way Black stated it, it was like he fell face-first on the ground or something…at least after the first shove.
The 2nd one was a Get-out-of-my-way shove that did nothing but move him to the side.
I’m sorry but Black has no legal leg to stand on.
Actually Black has every legal leg to stand on....
Assault is defined as: intentional physical contact with another person without their consent.
Ed clearly violated that law with the initial shove….
The act actually becomes aggravated assault when he shoves him with the Helmet…. Even if its a “get out of my shove”. Let law doesn’t differentiate between the 2.
It sucks, but it is true.
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Provocation may not be illegal but it is taken into consideration.
It has to.
Ed didn’t decide to just push Black just for the hell of it.
You are correct, however....
Watching the video, you can clearly see the Giants fan is not imposing a threat of any kind to Ed….he’s smiling, not giving a single shred of intimidation or exhibiting any threatening behavior….
Whereas Ed, is obviously angry, red faced (gritting teeth), he’s clearly aggitated, and aggravated…..
The jury/judge would see this as a fan excersizing his right to cheer for his team, and and other making aggressive movements that resulted in the assault.
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If you look below to my other comment, you will see what Ed's Lawyer would and could claim
and have a very solid legal ground to stand on there.
Actually no, and I gave you the opposing view below as well.
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ummm.....Not visible in this clip...try the one that was broadcast live.
at the :11 mark is where he shoves him the first time…
at the :16 mark is the helmet shove…. which as lame as it is, is considered a weapon in the eyes of the law.
As to your question:
- They guy has just as much right to go up there as Fireman Ed does. Provocation is also not a crime. There was no criminal mischief (defined as: is an offense against property that does not involve conversion. It typically involves any damage, defacement, alteration, or destruction of property.)
- Why wouldn’t Ed, knowing full well the love and support he gets from the fans, allow Giants fan to make himself look like a fool, and then to the cheer knowing full well the crowd would drown out the Giants kid.
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Fr8, this guy PURPOSELY got out of his seat and deliberately went over to where Ed was to CAUSE TROUBLE.
He WANTED ED to react. He did it not because he wanted to get a Giants chant started but to be an Ass.
yes, it’s not against the Law to be an ass but that’s not the point here. There was other places he could’ve gone where he could’ve done a Giants Chant away from Ed’s spot…but no. HE DELIBERATELY Went there knowing that he’d have a Confrontation. I’m sorry but that’s INTENT.
If Ed gets convicted, and Black's ban still holds....
yet Ed isn’t banned? Then I’d hazard a guess that Black would sue the stadium for discrimination and win a 6 to 7 figure settlement… not only that, but it would play out in the media…which would be a the bigger blow
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Then give him his money and still keep him the F out. I can deal with that. lol.
As long as it keeps one drunken retard from the stadium from causing any more trouble in the future, I’m all for giving him his EXTORTION MONEY.
This could end up with Ed being banned as well....
thats the whole thing…. This Giants douche could get paid well, and get your superfan banned…. thats why I chimed in on this to begin with.
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Cuz Ed's a Jets Superfan
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Yeah but he's not "MY" Superfan. He's just a Fan like me.
The way you said it sounded so condescending, I’d almost think you were a Giants fan or something….lol.
lol, nope, I meant your as in Jets :)
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I understand what you are saying....
But in the eyes of the law, Provocation is not illegal. The fact that the game was Giants/Jets, he had every right to do what he did, and every right to do it in the same spot Ed was doing it, unless Ed owns the PSL for that railing :)
I’m not arguing it was a douche move by the Giants guy….. (although to be honest, I’d have done the same if it was a Miami/Jets game…but I’m obnoxious like that…I just wouldn’t sue)
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No he does NOT have the Right to invade Ed's personal space. I'm sorry.
If that’s the case, then let me go up to a Woman and stand within 1 inch of her face and stare at her….That’s not illegal ’cause I have every right to do what I did, correct?
yeah..I thought so.
Yes, he does.
Unless Ed owns the PSL for that railing….
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He might. He could be cozy with Jets ownership. We don't really know for certain.
The fact that he’s been allowed by Security to do this for a long time suggests there’s some type of arrangement….
Well most teams have at least one "superfan"
The Dolphins have the Bandits now, where you see at all home and some away games….usually dressed as jesters of some sort. They were all over the TV at the Buffalo game.
The teams have them do things with the media group, and promos and such…. but they thats usually it.
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By the way, May I add something to this whole Fiasco that we haven't thought of?
From the tape I saw, It also can be argued that the drunkin giant fan was guilty of reckless endangerment. Ed could have easily have been pushed over the railing by Mr.Black’s physical contact in trying to get on the same railing as Ed. And it could’ve resulted in either he, Ed, or both to fall to his/their DEATH.
That’s something else to consider…..
You know....The more I think about it...
The more I believe that no matter what Black claims Ed did, He(Black) was still the instigator.
Looking at :26 of the youtube video above where it shows him deliberately power-walking to where Ed was says it all.
In addition to what I stated regarding reckless endangerment :
The Giant fan was trying to get up on the railing next to Ed and nearly pushed him over and down onto the field. Ed stepped off so as to not injure himself and pushed the Giants fan aside to get away from him. Considering the threat, Ed showed restraint and really should be commended for it.
actually no....
Ed forgoes that argument by placing himself in that situation to begin with. If Ed was truly worked about the endangerment, he never would’ve taken the risk and gotten up there on his own.
Ed risks his own life by getting on the railing.
Furthermore, your honor, while the Giants the fan puts himself in this position on this one occasion, we have indisputable video proof that Ed places himself in danger in his manner on a regular occurrence, and multiple times a game.
Yeah, that argument is not going anywhere :)
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You're kidding,right?
That was a rhetorical question, btw. lol.
Ed has been doing this for years with ZERO incidents…Then this clown comes by and tries to get on the same rail as Ed when there’s million of miles of Rail he could use to rally Giants fans ELSEWHERE!!
lol, no I wasn't kidding :) (rhetorical question answered hehe)
The fact that he’s been doing it for all these years, even without incident, doesn’t change the fact that he puts himself in the position of risk…. which is the whole point of reckless endangerment. If Ed was sitting in his assigned seat, and the Giants dude pushed him to the railing, than it falls under that purvey.
But, because Ed willingly puts himself on the rail already, which he willingly puts himself at more risk (no matter how long he’s gone without incidents), then Reckless Endangerment doesnt come into play, as the defendant has already proven over a long period of time, that he puts himself at risk on his own.
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Actually the Giants fan isn't putting him in further danger.
Ed is already in danger by being there. Every time he goes up there, he is at risk of anyone else coming down and doing the same thing.
Thats the whole point. It could be Giants Dude, another Jets fan, a drunk Oakland player…who knows…. But he is already at risk by being there.
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I agree with that 100%.....wasteful time. frivolous lawsuits.
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Moral of the story, if some fag provokes you into putting hands on him so he can charge you with assault, make it count.
by nationalist88 on Sep 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
lol, this is a good point.
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I'd think this is very excessive
except for the fact that Black was banned from ever coming again. If he was removed just one game, doubt any of this would have happened.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
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total non-story
The case will be dismissed. There is absolutely nothing to see here. A Giant’s fan decides to step into the space of a Jets fan to provoke him and extremely minor pushing ensues. I can see why the Giants fan was banned from the stadium though because he clearly tried to provoke another fan. Fireman Ed could counter sue but that would also be a waste of time even though he has the better case.
What is fair? Ban him too
This guy has been treated like royalty throughout his whole life and I don’t know why. I remember when the J-E-T-S chant was a chant that originated in the upper deck. I payed 15k for two PSL’s. Come on guys you know he got out of paying for his PSL. Remember he quit on the Jets a few years ago. Claimed a knee injury. Hell they were putting up injury reports on this guy. He is a fan!! Now he is collecting 3/4 pay tax free from the city. It is us, the little guys who pay this guy’s salary and PSL. I would like to see what would happen if I stood up on the wall at the new stadium. They would escort me out of the place in a second. What is fair is fair. The giant fan paid for his ticket from some idiot Jet fan who sold his ticket to him. The guy tried to do his own chant. Not recommended. Anzalone pushed him. About 3 times too. If you or If I push a Giant fan at the game we are out of there. Don’t even think that a # 42 jersey or a shaved head will save you. But this guy, he continues to get a free ride in everything he does. They put this guy into the Hall of Fame as a fan. Come on man! I guess some of you fools are on a first name basis with him also. Ed? I am sick of this guy. Ban him too.
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