Jets Must Attack Tom Brady

by John B on Sep 16, 2010 8:30 PM EDT

Three games stick out as the most effective games the Jets have played defensively against Tom Brady in recent years. They were the road games at Foxborough in 2006 and 2007 and the home game in 2009. Although there were two different head coaches in these games, there was one constant. The Jets constantly attacked Brady with well designed and well timed blitzes. They also disguised their looks with linemen roaming the line of scrimmage before putting their hands down late and faked blitzes to try and confuse protection schemes.

Brady is a great quarterback. When he has time, he picks defenses apart. His talented corps of receivers will eventually get open if given time. The way the Pats play, though, leave them somewhat vulnerable to good blitzes. They like to spread the field and can be caught in a numbers game. No matter how good the protection is, if there are more men rushing the passer than blocking, teams can get to Brady.

This approach has risks, namely the ability of big play receivers to exploit man coverage. Most teams, though, do not have Darrelle Revis playing Randy Moss. If the Jets want to shut down New England's attack, they have to get aggresive. Brady torched them in Foxborough last year when Gang Green used a more conventional look with four down linemen rushing.

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As long as he thinks up some a creative blitz

The all out is not fooling and it is pretty much expected. Moss won’t do much, Welker will kill us if he is able to catch the dump offs from Brady.

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by BL3ACH on Sep 16, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions

*~~some~~

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by BL3ACH on Sep 16, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Not Gonna Happen

Better teams that ours have tried and failed to get Brady off his game – our best bet is to keep Moss on Revis Island and double cover everyone else – force the Patriots to run the ball and they can’t win.

by MachlinT on Sep 16, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions

What better defenses did this? Is there a better one in the league than the Jets? They did it last year.

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by John B on Sep 16, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions

The Jets are 20th in the league in pass defense this year.

"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson

by kv on Sep 16, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions

And Arian Foster is on pace to run for 3,700 yards.

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by John B on Sep 16, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions

And Peyton Manning is on pace for an 0-16 season.

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by Richard Hill on Sep 17, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Lol, gotta love statistics.

If we’re going 16-176 on third downs and have a total offensive output of 2816 yards this season, I’m burning all my Jets merch.

by Timmaht on Sep 17, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions

+1

Curtis "my favorite" Martin - 1 of the best!

by jcgamble on Sep 17, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions

The point is that this pass defense already has given a game that is not

indicative of last year’s D. A lot of this was play calling, but part of it may be the defense itself. Remains to be seen.

"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson

by kv on Sep 17, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions

they did it last year once

and wes welker wasnt in that game. wes welker was in game 2 and had 15 catches 192 yards.

by brady12mvp3 on Sep 17, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions

oops, someone didn't just post some facts, did they?

nice post.

"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson

by kv on Sep 17, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions

The Giants did it pretty well a few years ago.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Sep 17, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m not worried about Moss. Welker is the person to be concerned with. Brady doesn’t need the deep ball. He is right at home with long methodical drives. How do we stop Welker? Cromartie with linebacker help?

by JetGreen on Sep 16, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions

IDK what Rex will try this time, but if Cro and Wilson couldn’t handle Housh and Mason, Welker should go off for about 12 catches and 150 yds.

by nationalist88 on Sep 16, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree

Are you confident enough in our DBs not named Revis yet, to trust them on islands of their own, against people like Welker and their handsy TEs? I think we should play them much like we played the Saints. We didn’t beat them with blitzing, we beat them with coverage.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Sep 16, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions

If we force the Pats to become a running team, then we have them in the palms of our hands

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Sep 16, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions

I think the Patriots have too many receiving weapons for that to work...

…and with Rob Gronkowski as a huge target up the middle of the field, as well as Aaron Hernandez as a big target, they’re going to cause mismatches. Imagine a set where Moss, Welker and Tate/Edleman are receivers who draw Revis, Cro and Wilson. There’s Gronkowski at Tight End, who is a phenomenal blocker, as well as Fred Taylor in the back field. Is it a run play? Can Gronk pull a blocker and then run up the field and have a 6’0 safety trying to guard a 6’6 tight end? I think there’s just too many weapons on offense to force the Patriots to be a one dimensional team.

I do think the Jets can stop the Patriots if they keep a couple linebackers in the middle of the field. I’ve always said that the key to beating the Patriots is being able to rush 4 and create pressure. Since the Jets have Revis, they can rush 5 and do the same thing. You just have to keep your ILBs in the middle of the field and have them watch the underneath pass to Welker. That pass is good for 7 yards every time, first down if he has some wiggle room.

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by Richard Hill on Sep 17, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions

I think the Saints have just as many weapons as the Pats.

I would put Jason Taylor on the TE.

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by GangGreenMag on Sep 17, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Then you'd better hope the Patriots don't line Aarron Hernandez at TE

Because Taylor is going to get smoked. Also Brady loves throwing his other TE Gronkowski. Anybody who draws a Ben Coates comparison needs to be taken very seriously.

by colinyoung on Sep 17, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions

There is Zero chance for that happening.

by colinyoung on Sep 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions

even if you have cromartie on welker, you should have the safety spy welker the entire game. wilson on welker and welker will go for 3 td and 222 yds. if the safety is spying welker you can still have a LB watch the back out of the backfield.

by servantofchrist on Sep 17, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions

Best way to beat the Patriots:

Ellis, Pouha and Kroul/Devito, Taylor and Thomas need to be able to generate pressure. The Patriots are going to use a tight end every single play of the game, so it’ll will be 5 rushers on 6 blockers. They still must generate pressure. Best option would be to charge up the gut since the Patriots’ interior line is the weakest point- and it will also collapse the pocket and force Brady to scramble/hobble away. The Jets cannot afford to rush more than 5 players.

Moss – Revis. Revis should hold Moss to something like 3 receptions, 25 yards and a red zone, quick throw TD.
Welker – Cromartie WITH A SAFETY. Cro might be able to make some stops, but you know he’s a big play corner or nothing player, which means he’s going to gamble with Welker. That’s not a good plan, so a safety needs to be watching in case Cro messes up.
Tate – Wilson. Should be a fair match-up, but Tate is a burner and I’m not sure how good Wilson is at sticking with a receiver who runs downfield all game.

That’s the whole secondary. That leaves the Bart Scott and David Harris in the middle of the field. Their job is to stop the draw play, in case the running back runs. They need to be disciplined and not try and go after Brady because that will leave a player free to run underneath and get an easy pass.

I think that’s the best way for the Jets to stop the Patriots offense.

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by Richard Hill on Sep 17, 2010 1:00 AM EDT reply actions

I think Cromartie will do pretty good on Welker

Cromartie was getting beat by go routes; Welker is not going to do any go routes

by BIG OH!!!!! on Sep 17, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions

And a few of those instances he wasn't even beat, he was just too slow to turn around and play the ball instead of the player.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Sep 17, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions

What about the WR screen that Welker scored on last week?

What does Cro do in that case? He will have to fight through players to make a tackle. That dont work for me. Revis and Wilson on Welker before Cromarti.

by colinyoung on Sep 17, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Well in that case, there are 2 TEs in front of him blocking

I would move a LB out there along with Pool, and Wilson. The LB should be able to blow up the blocking and allow either Wilson or Pool make the play, and put Cro on the RB coming out of the backfield

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by GangGreenMag on Sep 17, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions

This agrees with my idea that the LB's have to help with coverage.

I like the idea.
I think it’s very important the they not be dedicated to the blitz like they were last week. Brady is too good.

by colinyoung on Sep 17, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Let’s say the Pats empty the backfield and go 5 wide

I would rush 4 Ellis, Pouha, Devito, and Bryan Thomas

Moss= Revis
Welker= Cromartie/Pool
Tate= Wilson
TE= JT
Faulk= Harris and either have Scott in a zone in the middle of the field, or a delayed rush.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Sep 17, 2010 1:43 AM EDT reply actions

Taylor is going to get burned...

…Hernandez has wide receiver speed and Gronkowski is too big.

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by Richard Hill on Sep 17, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree. I already mentioned that higher up ^

by colinyoung on Sep 17, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions

The game plan for the Pats will be to get ahead early in the game tp take pressure off of their young defense. That will include taking chances down the field almost right away. The Jets need to survive the first two quarters at all costs. The all out blitz schemes will not work. Brady will pick apart man coverage and use his RB and TE’s in any case of doubt. Cromarti does not match up with Welker in any way. The coverage needs to be changed on every play to make Brady’s job a lil bit harder. Hill is correct. The LB’s need to be left underneath to help cover the middle of the field.

by colinyoung on Sep 17, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions

If the Jets have any hope of winning this game

they have to let Sanchez throw some intermediate and deep passes one 1st and 2nd down. You can’t challenge any defenses by throwing short passes and running the ball all the time because the defense doesn’t need to cover much ground. The Jets offense is so predictable: you know they will run on 1st and probably 2nd down, and when it’s 3rd and 6 you have to pass when the defense expects it. I don’t see our defense holding them to under 17 points, so we can’t play it conservatively with Sanchez.

by secret defense on Sep 17, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions