Deception Isn't Everything
If I could choose any kind of offense, I would want a high octane passing game that can go up and down the field and put a ton of points on the board. With that said, I loved the way the Jets established a ground and pound identity last year. Part of it was the way the coaching staff played to the strengths of the personnel. Part of it, though, was that Brian Schottenheimer ran an offense that rested on a foundation that good execution doesn't necessarily rely on confusing the defense. Sometimes the defense knows what is coming but still cannot stop it. He asked too much of Mark Sanchez at times, but he found the right formula by the end of the year.
That was not evident in his first three seasons at the helm. The first year, it was actually a good thing. The Jets were undermanned and had to use some trickery to succeed against more talented opponents. By 2008 it became a liability, though. The Jets had the conference's leading rusher, yet emptied the backfield and went shotgun consistently on third and short. I'll stop there, but there were other similar frustrating tendencies.
I saw many of the same problems Monday. Schottenheimer's constant calls for shifting helped wipe out a first and goal. On a third down pass play, he had Ben Hartsock (he of one reception last year) on the field instead of Dustin Keller. The offensive line had problems with the snap count all night long because Mark Sanchez had a liberal ability to audible.
This isn't college football where gimmicky offenses are the norm. Players are all well coached and discipline. There is time for deception, but too much of it just doesn't work. Schottenheimer should go back to the basics Sunday.
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Couldn’t have said it better. Took the words out of my mouth. We’re so afraid of defenses figuring out what we’re doing we’re confusing ourselves. Just call a play and run it. You’re not always going to get the perfect play.
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Stop making the offense so complex
Has everyone forgotten the fact that Sanchez played well at USC because he had a simple offense to run. Set up the match up problems if possible with a shift or two once in a while but don’t try to speed through it. Everyone blames Edwards for the penalty he had when he didn’t get set, but that was more on Sanchez who didn’t give him time to get set. They weren’t pressed for time and it wasn’t like Edwards was lackadaisical about getting in position. Also, Sanchez can throw the ball well. Why not let him do what he likes to do the most: quick passes and throwing the ball on the move. Throw a couple of bootlegs plays in after they establish the run and use play action often. All the teams are going to play the run against us no matter what because they know we love grounding and pounding. Play action will give him a bit more space to throw the ball by drawing in the LB or making them hesitate a split second. Lastly, start using our personnel the way it was meant to be used. We brought LT in because he is a passing threat from the backfield, especially on 3rd down. We also know that our fullbacks and Greene are not that great at it. Why are we passing to them and putting them in the game on 3rd and long?
STOP CONFUSING OUR YOUNG OFFENSE AND LET THEM POUND THE OPPOSING DEFENSE WITH PURE BRUTE FORCE AND PLAYMAKING ABILITY!
This also comes into play with the offensive line who is still nowhere near the level last year’s line was at. We can’t really pull our tackle to run the ball outside and we can’t dominate the interior especially if we try to run off tackle on Slausen’s side. This means we have to rely on pounding the ball, getting to the second level, and our running backs’ talent. Last year we ran far too much to the right side. This year we have to do the same thing because it is the stronger side.
by AlwaysCanBeBetter on Sep 15, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
This a 100 times over
When your own O-Line is getting faked out on the hard count (a couple of the penalties were Brick jumping early), it’s time to get back to the basics and stop with all the gimmicky nonsense. Not to say that the Tiger doesn’t rightfully have a spot in the playbook, but all the audibles and shifting around is not necessary on every down
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by blueandorange4life on Sep 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Preach it JB.
I don’t mind a shift every now and then if it gets us an ideal match-up. But Schotty does too much, often swapping multiple players from one side to the other. We’re blessed with personnel that creates match-up issue just by lining up.
How shiftng Keller off the line and into the slot and motioning him? The guy is a natural match-up nightmare and we never take advantage of it. Working Keller from the slot on the same side as Braylon puts a lot of stress on safeties but we rarely see it. Or if we motion him we might catch a LB on him and can just go to work.
Same with Braylon. I though we’d see him in the slot some. He would force a safety to come upfield and would give us one-on-ones on deep routes. Or if the safety doesn’t cheat up you can work him underneath. He’s awesome after the catch.
Seems like Schotty is always trying to trick them, rather than just going at them and dictating to them, and putting pressure on them.
Agree 100%
New look team on offense, let’s keep it simple, for now.
We can introduce some motion/movement as the season progresses.
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I wonder what convinced him
to change what he ended with last year.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
I wonder that myself.
Hate to say it, but I think all of the Super Bowl expectations and big moves this season made him “over-coach” a bit.
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Maybe he felt more confident
with his new toys?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
The bad part about all the deception was the Ravens did not bite not once
I hate a coaching staff that don’t make half time adjustments. I hate to say it but the Jets played that game scare to lose. All that pumping their chest during the training camp, and the coaches let the players down with the lack of aggression on the offensive side of the ball.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Sep 15, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You hit the nail on the head JB
The trickery and gimmicks, and assortment of gadget plays workes with a qb like Pennington, who is incredibly intelligent, but unfortunately lacks the ability to throw the deep ball. Sanchez has the ability, but doesn’t seem like he’s as sharp as Pennington. I agree, but I’d also like to see a good mix of gadgets with someone like Brad Smith, who can def run it.
Haha, right on cue
I was actually thinking earlier at work that I was gonna write a piece on how much I hate Schotty but you beat me to it in a way! lol
with a different QB maybe
Shotty is used to Brees and Rivers, I don’t automatically think he’s a bad OC but I don’t think he can help himself. Theoretically we have so many weapons we should be putting up 28 a game easy but we made an investment in Sanchez and we gotta ride it out until he finally gets it or an option and opportunity comes along we can afford to take.
Schotty’s offensive schemes are definitely too advanced for Mark’s skill set and talent level right now. Not that he can’t develop those things but he’ll need to be baby fed these game plans, concepts and philosophies until then.
We have put together a team mostly built to win now but the QB seems he’s the only cog in the machine that isn’t yet on that win now level. This is not his fault…he is who he is and has the same skill but it takes time and it seems as if everyone else (fans,media, analysts,etc) is operating on a different time table.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Sep 15, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
If you ever wanted to get an insight into Schotty's thinking
You need look no further than last years game against Buffalo. Why?
Well, i’m glad you asked…. Imagine that you are an Offensive Coordinator. Your team is completely destroying the other team every time you run the ball… So bad that by the end of the game, your two RB’s have a combined 309 yards rushing. How many times in that game would you have called for a pass play? 29? No you say! Well, our very own Brian Schottenheimer called for 29 pass plays in a game in which the two RB’s combined for 309 yards on the ground. Oh, and one last thing…. In that same game, 5 of those 29 passes were completed to the other team.
Why in the world would you continue to throw when your qb was struggling miserably, when your RB’s are having career days?
The only reason i could see for a person to call the game the way Schottenheimer did is because they are a complete jackass.
Callahan could do a better job with this group
Once again this is a great thread…
You would think Shotty would learn, after last season, execution over trickery…
Simplify… It is up to Rex to get on Shotty and show him the light of day, I would have Callahan take over in a heart beat, Rex has to give Shotty that message…
Jets Offensive Play Calling
After Monday nights home opener, two things are abundantly clear. One, Schotty’s play calling was extremely predictable. At one point, he had the back run the ball three straight times up the middle. Fine, if you still have Thomas Jones, not now. Second, am I the only one to notice that Sanchez looked like he had happy feet? The kid looked like he was scared to death. W finally got some good receivers, use them, and, let Sanchez throw the ball down the field more, the least it will do is not allow the opposing defense sit in the box.

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