An Ugly Start
by John B on Sep 13, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
Email
Print
For over eight months, the Jets have been in the headlines of the papers being hyped and hyping themselves as contenders. Tonight in a hideous loss to Baltimore, they made mistakes over and over that real contenders simply do not make. There was penalty after penalty after penalty. There were drops and fumbles at key times. The tight end even lost track of the sticks on fourth down with the game on the line. None of this even mentions the quarterback play.
Instead of a vastly improved team, this looked a lot more like last year's 9-7 squad that found ways to lose close games late.
The team also suffered a key injury. Kris Jenkins left in the first quarter with a knee injury and never returned. Based on the awkward way the knee moved, and his body language as he left the field, it is tough not to fear the worst.
The official recap will be up in a bit. Play nice.
286 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Hope the Jenkins injury isn't serious...
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
I think you will be let down man
I have seen that happen many times, never ending good
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
I know, but I feel so bad for the guy.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Me too
Hell of player that Jenkins is.His absence changed the game when he went out.
valiant effort
by the Jets D- i think the Ravens ran 70 something plays and the D was gassed. that was an absolutely hideous display by Schottenheimer. how are those the play calls?
by Crimetime Island on Sep 13, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Was Sanchez still calling the plays
because our whole scheme on offense looked like the preseason. Hopefully, our defense and special teams are ready to light up the scoreboard.
gassed and still able to come up with enough stops
to get the ball to the offense with over a minute to play. too bad the offense couldn’t come through
No confidence in Sanchez
They needed to let him throw more. It’s as if they’re still afraid he’s gonna lose the game but he’s the QB, gotta let him play. The running into the kicker penalty was ridiculous. Keller not running past the 1st down marker sux and we see it way too often by lots of players. And was there a problem with the headsets? seems like all night the plays were coming in late to sanchez, very frustrating. Defense was great and we were up against another great defense with a chance to win in the end. Dont get crazy after this game. Dont turn into benigno ppl.
Can't hide your QB
And make it to the Super Bowl.
No confidence in Sanchez because he’s garbage.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
There has to be a reason why they don't let him throw much.
They feel like he’ll cost us the game. One can make the argument that we didn’t give him enough attempts but even saying that he still looked bad. He went long what twice? One was a good pass to keller that got pulled back. He checked down way too much, idk if the coaches told him to or if it was his decision but it made him look bad. Its the end of the game and he’s throwing a 6 yard pass across the middle with no time outs? Got Keller killed with that.
"Dedication To The Don" Most Popular Post Of All Time On P&T. I Am Honored
by MikeTheIntern on Sep 14, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Ive had enough of Schottenheimer
If the season hadn’t started already Id want his ass fired.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Sep 13, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
Couldn't agree more.
And I think this conservative bullshit play calling is actually why Sanchez looks like he’s regressed since last season. Does this guy know that there is such a thing as a forward pass in modern football?
I know how 49ers fans must have felt over the weekend. “Oh look… I wonder if they’re gonna run it up the middle again. Well, there was a surprise.”
Keep Shotty
He’s a chip off the old block.
Then we will never win a superbowl.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Sep 13, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Jets played like steaming pile of Sh!t hopefully now they’ll shut up and focus more and we have another game like this. Im actually glad i didnt go to the game.
Do you wish you’d spent your own money to go watch that puke? Get back to me after you’ve been watching this same bullshit over and over for 27 years
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What makes you say that?
After a tough loss like this, almost every fan is like that.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
Our defense was great against an offense which is going to end up being very good.
They did adjust well but their receiving corp. was as advertised and Wilson was definitely in the weeds. Fortunately, those are the best receivers he’ll be playing all year. Cro on the other hand looked slow, he has no business being 5 yards of the line of scrimmage from now on. I’m not too worried about Big Jenks being out (Could be for the year) because Pouha is beast enough to get it done.
Nope, Welker should be an easier cover
then switching between Boldin, Housh, and Mason. That’s if he’s on Welker. But with how slow Cro looked I’m not sure I’d want him on anyone.
Yep.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 13, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really excited about utilizing him...
…and after watching Jermaine Gresham of the Bengals drag the Patriots safety James Sanders in the end zone, it makes me wonder who the heck can cover a player of that size, with so many weapons surrounding him.
by Richard Hill on Sep 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand where you are coming from but realize
Wilson had never faced receivers of Boldin’s and Housh’s size and physicality at Boise St. I’m not saying the receiving corp is better. I’m saying he will have an easier matchup.
I think you really underestimate Welker.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 13, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
who ? he seems to be able to make plays against us when others have failed
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
I just think, matchup wise, it will be far tougher to cover Welker than Boldin or Housh.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 13, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it's a totally different matchup, so we'll see.
At this point, with how bad our secondary secondary (Not Revis) looks. Justin Bieber Brady should have options.
That was a helluva hard hitting pillow fight
Kyle wilson looked like a rookie, he’ll improve.
Offense was shit, better improve next week Tom Brady won’t take us lightly
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 13, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
I feel better as a Cowboy fan after this ending. You'll pick it up guys. So will we. Good night.
"I'm not busy because I did it right the first time"
Very disappointed
I was sure we were going to win this game. At halftime I was blaming the refs, but the Ravens dominated in the second half, even if it didn’t show on the scoreboard. We easily could have won this game, but we didn’t deserve it.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Sep 13, 2010 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It’s hard to say we were dominated. Our D held them scoreless and our special teams was great. Our offense killed us.
It’s even hard to say their D dominated when our O was just… bad. A Pop Warner coach could have predicted our play calling.
by cult hero on Sep 13, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sanchez needs to go back to So Cal. He’s worse than useless; a waste of two roster spots because Brunell who can’t play is only here to babysit him, and he almost got Keller killed tonight. How you guys are blaming the coordinator is beyond me. Schotty didn’t go 10 for 21 with 74 yards.
74 yards? In a pro football game?
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez doesn't call the plays
And if he did, I think he would have at least taken some chances. Between the play calling and our receivers inability to get any separation at all (except on a play that was called back), I don’t care who was playing quarterback…we aren’t doing anything.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
A couple of things I didn't like...
I was thinking the same as a bunch of people…what the hell kind of play calling was Schottenheimer doing? It’s been reported over and over again how the Ravens secondary was depleted and ever pass was short. They should have gone for some big pass plays.
The other thought is why did they not keep Revis on Boldin? Whenever he was covered by anybody else he was taking it to us.
I will say that there were a lot of mistakes but if they clean some of that up and allow Sanchez to throw down the field then maybe we can make a nice run.
Sanchez
is playing with zero confidence. The play calling reflects his lack of confidence and their confidence in him.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Definitely, he had no fire, no command of the offense, and
wasn’t on the same page as his coordinators. Notice on the completion right at the end he called a play that switched the WR cross field and cost us 10 seconds.
fine?
he didn’t look fine in the preseason and it’s carried over into the season.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
it seemed to me
like they took Revis off of whoever was in the slot. so when Boldin went to the slot, Wilson ended up covering him, which as we could see, didn’t work out to well for us.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Greene
If Schotty benched Shonn to teach him a lesson for fumbling, he should be fired tommorrow.
Why? If that clown isn’t getting hurt, he’s putting the ball on the ground. I would’ve done the same thing, and robbed him of the opportunity to come back in the game and drop that screen pass.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I will try and play nice
but this was as frustrating as it was predictable. They showed no discipline at all. But I can’t even blame Wilson and Cro, as horrible as they were. The Edwards penalty was a killer, but Jaworski was right, it was partially on Sanchez for not looking over there to see if he was set.
A team with anywhere near a competent offense wins this game by 14 at least. I don’t want to hear about the Balt. D. It’s not that good, especially in the secondary, and we didn’t attack it. Instead they played right into their hands by trying to run right down it. That’s called hubris, and Ryan is guilty of it on occasion. He thinks he can run on everyone, as does Schotty, and you can’t do that all night against a good run D. The offense sucked in the preseason, and it sucked tonight. It needs to go back to the drawing board.
This was a huge loss in my opinion as the sched gets tougher. Throw the ball down the effing field, that’s all I can say to Schotty. Conservative play calling runs in that family and always will.
Yeah but...
The Edwards penalty was him really going for it. I can’t blame a guy for that.
Wilson played like a rookie and was being exploited like a rookie. He got leaned on. It was to be expected.
Cro’s stuff was… annoying. He seemed to clean it up in the second half though.
The ONE positive I actually took from all of this crap
Was Steve Weatherford.
Absolutely
If Koch was our punter, we wouldn’t have even been in the game.
He was fantastic.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
The good and the bad...
Let’s start with the good:
When the defense isn’t GIVING the Ravens first downs on brainless penalties, they were awesome. I mean, despite being tired, they held the Ravens to nothing in the second half.
Also, the special teams was fantastic. That’s a HUGE improvement over last year and the only thing that let us even score.
Now, the bad:
Anyone else miss Thomas Jones (at least he didn’t lose the ball constantly) and Alan Faneca (who cares if his pass blocking isn’t the greatest if you’re never gonna pass)?
Losing Jenkins instantly changed our D. I hope it’s not serious, but I’m guessing it is.
Cromartie: what can I say? Bonehead penalty after bonehead penalty. (Of course, the last one was just a bunch of flag happy refs.) His int was nice but leave it to… Greene to kill that.
Shonn Greene: He needs to just sleep with a football. If you’re going to be a collision runner… you can’t lose the ball like that.
Schottenheimer: If you’re going to have an innovator on defense then why have the most boring and predictable offensive coordinator in the universe?
Other thoughts:
Sanchez: Frankly, I don’t even know if I can criticize him since it didn’t seem like he was ever allowed to actually do ANYTHING and I think that’s hurt him more than anything else.
Kyle Wilson played like a rookie. Go easy on him. I mean, he’s a rookie.
144 passing yards for Flacco in 2nd half
with a bunch of long back breaking throws. That’s not exactly nothing. Imagine what the score would have been without the silly mistakes the Ravens made in the first half. The ball control offense owned the TOP clock as well, which shows the lopsidedness of the game other than on the scoreboard. However, it wasn’t over until the veyr end and we were very nervous here in Baltimore until Keller unexplicably stepped out of bounds short of the 1st down. Whew, could have easily have gone either way. Good luck and beat the Steelers for us, okay?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 13, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This
We gave you the game with those 3 turnovers. A good team, a super bowl contender, is up 17-0.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
your saying you liked the way the ravens offense looked today?
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
the jets loked a lot worse but I didn't think Flacco had a great game
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Flacco had a horrible first half.
Then picked it up in the 2nd half, making some good throws. I want him to play better than that (and he needs to if this team has any playoff aspirations). He didn’t have a great game, but a decent one.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be honest I had the Ravens as the team to beat this year
I love flacco and have followed him for along time. I just thought he would look better but it is only 1 game against a great defense
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
That's what I'm hoping.
Getting smashed on the first play didn’t help his nerves.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
dude I swear I thought he did it on purpose
do get the first hit out of the way to get in the game mentally. I really could n ot believe how long he held the ball there….
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
If he did,
it didn’t work. He looked like shit after that. Patting the ball, nervously waiting for someone to get open, overthrowing receivers. It took him at least a half to calm down.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well I was half kidding but I was really confused at what he was doing there
Flacco is a jersey kid I watched him as a blue hen, I think he was the better QB in that draft over Ryan, but after following his career for so long, I may not be the most objective when it comes to him.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Everyone was covered.
So he had a rookie “dear in the headlights” moment and got slammed. Maybe it did clear the cobwebs. I’ll take long overthrows over sacks any day.
I swear, my team does not ever start big games well. Except against the Pats the 2nd time.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
One of Rice's best games
also a Rutgers jersey kid who I watched and loved in college.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
I questioned Ozzie when they drafted him
since we already had Willis and had holes other places. I continued to question him after his first year. Then last year happened.
I think his best game was against the Vikings honestly. That was a beautiful 2nd half.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
well I loved him he has such a low center of gravity
it is hard to get him off balance and tackled. How many times have we seen him looked like he was down, a pile forms and rice some how comes out the olther side still gaining yards.
.
But I also thought the world of Brian Lenoard who has no had the same NFL sucess.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
That's Ray Rice.
I can’t wait to see him next week against a defense that doesn’t tackle as well as yours. I felt like he was often a few inches or a step from breaking one, but your d is just too fast.
Leonard hasn’t really had the chance, has he? Stuck behind Benson and Scott.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah not really
but I still think he can contribute in the NFL if used the right way
.
who are the Ravens playing next week?
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
I'd hate for it to happen for the Bengals.
Hopefully he goes to the NFC to contribute. To the Pack. I can get behind that,
Bengals. In Cinci
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
flacco was decent
and we made a bunch of mistakes too
144 yards...
Exploiting a rookie (which was a solid move, but let’s call it like it is) with a very talented receiver. And… no more Jenkins to terrorize the front. Oh yeah… and up against a defense that was tired thanks to a complete lack of offense.
Half the advantages your offense had were thanks to our lack thereof, not our D.
(And our specials teams was mighty fine.)
ESPN just said boldin owns revis island
can anyone emember 1 catch while revis was covering him?
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
ESPN is down right stupid sometimes
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ok more often then not
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 13, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a trial by fire is a great way to break in a rookie and even with him getting owned the Ravens still scored… 0 points in the second half. All their advances in the first half were mostly courtesy of penalties.
The problem wasn’t the D. It was the stupidly predictable offense.
I can agree with that, but next week we're going up against a team that has
a primed offense that will score on us. So, we’ll need to stop them when we can, since our offense won’t keep up in a shootout.
On the upside...
Their D isn’t as good as the Ravens.
On the downside, a high school team can stop us if we play so predictably.
The day I printed the Jets bermuda triangle t-shirts
wilson looked like a rookie
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Cromartie was fantastic
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Sep 13, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Revis is one great player
Got a lot more respect for Revis now! Boldin did not catch a ball while Revis was covering him. Boldin was not targeted when he was covering being covered by Revis either. A mistake in my opinion.
by Ravens One on Sep 13, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He broke out of Al-Cro-traz
but I don’t remember Revis ever being on him for more than 1 play. ESPN is still the devil though.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
does anyone else
think that the play calling was absolutely awful? they didnt even give sanchez a chance
Can Boldin get some respect over here
And where is Crackback? Where are you Crackback?
He played well
just not against Revis
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Sep 13, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, the refs had a decent game
with the exception of that running into the kicker BS. Nice acting though.
He was great tonight
Rex should’ve let Revis cover him more(I think Revis covered him in the first quarter for a play & that was it).
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
The non-stop blitzing also puts our corners in unfair situations
that was way too much to put on Wilson tonight in his first game. How about playing straight up on 3rd and long sometimes? How about moving Revis over to the right side to cover Boldin? I don’t get it. They just gave tonight’s game away completely.
poor wilson...thrown right into the fire in his very first nfl game
revis should’ve been on boldin most if not all of the time
If their offense was capable of… say… a first down and a play that was not a run up the middle, the defense could have done that all day. Despite all the Ravens could do… they didn’t score a point in the 2nd half.
I agree the loss in the offense
but a decent offensive team, like the Patriots or Packers or Vikings would probably have scored a lot more points on all those penalties.
ravens aren't decent on offense??
we need a pass rusher
They are.
I think the Ravens have a very good, very balanced offense. I’m not worried about our D as long as they can clean up the penalties, and it’s gonna be 5 – 7 games before Wilson isn’t playing like a rookie.
Our real pressure died with the loss of Jenkins. It was like night and day.
i agree
after jenkins went out, the D seemed to deflate a little in morale
And...
They just didn’t have the same kind of penetration. They were still great… but more pressure and less sacking.
definitely
couldn’t get through as well as before. we need big jenks back!!
Unfortunately...
It was the knee. I’m guessing that’s the end. However, I’m also a staunch pessimist.
they are decent
but not above average. They have 3 possesion receivers, a good tight end and rb, but no real explosiveness.
How about not wasting draft picks on corners who don’t mean shit anyway, and getting a pass rusher who wins games like these by pressuring the QB, which we weren’t doing?
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
dude the front 7 looked excellent in the begining of the game
over 70 snaps will tire any defense out.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
So much for that Jordan/Pippen talk huh
Cromatie was owned by all of our “slow” WR. Cromatie should play ball and keep quite. He’s not as good as he think he is or being told he is.
NICK FOLK
The only guy who everyone was worried about since he sign his contract was the only one who looked good. Weatherford might of had a career day and was extremely clutch
I was still worried he'd miss if by some miracle we got a couple of first downs in a row.
He made them but they were each close enough to go either way.
Not tonight
I mean in his career. He was a bright spot tonight.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I got to say this was a pretty ugly game
even if the scores were reversed, I would still feel like we got tons of work to do.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
And maybe add more than 4 plays to the offensive handbook.
by cult hero on Sep 13, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont think the Ravens made a statement like ESPN is trying to say
I think the Jets are afraid of Sanchez making throws and wont go anywhere if they continue with that philosphy.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
This game had me missing Donald Strickland and Lito Sheppard
I felt like I was watching the Bill Callahan coached Raiders with all these penalties.
Take away those garbage penalties, we win
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm surprised that with all the mess we got ourselves into
wes till had a chance to win it…i think this team has a lot of untapped potential, especially on the offense
Call me nuts but I think if we had a vet like Chad under center, we would really be a SB contender
Watching Sanchez, Im not feeling it…..even after one game against a great D.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Captain checkdown
He never even looked down the field, its like he is obsessed with throwing to the RB.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sanchez actually made a few good throws but
either they couldn’t hold on, or in keller’s case, got called back.
Two words to describe Sanchez.
Worth. Less.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry...
I have a hard time blaming a QB for being chained up the ENTIRE game and then being expected to come out and run the 2-minute offense when he’s been allowed NOTHING to build any rhythm or cadence with his receivers?
And what the hell was the point of getting Santonio Holmes if we’re not gonna pass!?
by cult hero on Sep 13, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We CAN’T pass. Painfully evident. Even against a second-string secondary.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
We did last year...
Sanchez did fine against the class of the AFC north last year. He doesn’t need to be Peyton Manning either… but if you run EVERY SINGLE PLAY just about any D can make sure you go nowhere.
You have to blame Sanchez
If the coaches have no faith in him to throw the ball, give us somebody they do have faith in.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He did it last year.
It’s chicken in egg really… you’re afraid to let him throw but if you don’t he’s never going to grow.
On the D side they had no problem throwing Wilson to the lions.
agree
schotty’s babying sanchez way too much. gotta let him THROW
You know there is a problem when fans are thinking..
“How bad could Brunell do?”
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I seem to remember 12 TD’s and 20 picks. And no more scoring when Greene went down in the AFC Championship. Why keep a guy who can’t win you games, but lost us numerous ones? We’re going nowhere with this chump.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But...
I’m not convinced he’s not totally stunted by the offense on this team. I just think it’s unfair to throw all the blame on Sanchez.
I place some blame on Sanchez
It is his second season, its time to nut up. Either you got it or you dont. The coaches used the Kellen Clemens vs the Bucs playbook tonight. They dont trust the Sanchize it seems.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they would. I’d rather see some risks and turnovers than this. At least you can learn/grow from the former.
This was just… nothing.
There has to be a reason they are handcuffing him
They do not trust him.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt be as pissed if that was always true
But at times Schotty calls a great game. Dont know why he didnt exploit their secondary at all tonight. It was like the D in 08 not going after Seneca Wallace behind a practice squad OLINE. What the hell are the Jets thinking at times, I have no idea.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on. Baltimore didn’t even rush for 50 yards, but threw for 258. Not counting the endless parade of PI’s. The secondary got ass raped. Humiliated. It was pitiful. I don’t care what his rating was, Flacco threw at will and won the game.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Flacco was brilliant
He exploited the Jets weaknesses in the secondary.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
he made a few good throws when he had to
but a few bad ones too..like that complete miss to mcclain i think? who was wide open
That was a bad one but he won the game more with his head than with his arm
I wouldnt be too excited if Im Ravens fans though. They eeked out a win against a crappy offensive game plan.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They eeked out a win in a game in which
they gave the ball away 3 times in the first half. I’ll take it.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You cant tell me the Ravens looked like a SB team tonight
The Jets had 6 first downs and still couldve won the game. Without the flags, you probably lose tonight.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I agree.
If we turn the ball over 3 times in the first half, we don’t even win 8 games.
But I can say that too. Without the turnovers, this game isn’t close.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats true
Both teams have a lot of work to do. This game was a coaches nightmare,lol
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a fan's nightmare too.
I probably cut 5-10 years off my life.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, this was not a fun game to watch at all
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It is, however, better than February through August
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh,
I take bad football over no football I think. Sure, it’s a heartbreaking loss, but at least there’s football to discuss.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Just sucks to lose, tough night for my teams.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But it's only week 1.
Sure, now you have to go out next week and kick some ass, but it’s better than the anxious waiting of the spring. Also, my baseball team isn’t exactly good, so I don’t have much after hockey ends.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Playing the Pats on a short week
I dont like it at all.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't either.
Schedule makers weren’t nice to either team. Both playing divisional games on short weeks against teams they have to beat. Both teams also lost both games to said divisional opponent last year?
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Both of these took advantage of easy schedules last year
The schedule this year will be a lot harder.
by YankeesJets on Sep 14, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Bengals kicked the shit out us twice last year.
And the Pats beat you twice right?
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
We won the first game at home
I cant see that Bengals team that got killed Sunday beating the Ravens once, let alone twice.
by YankeesJets on Sep 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah.
I thought I read that they beat you twice. My apologies.
I hope you’re right, but division games are always close in my opinion. And we have to go to Cinci. Plus, Joe has last year to remember, and he played horrible against them.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The Ravens secondary will get a lot more work than they did tonight
Palmer isnt going to just check it down like his USC buddy did tonight.
by YankeesJets on Sep 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm hoping it won't matter.
Carr looked good. Which is insane. Webb should be back, at least for a few snaps, which could be important if used correctly. And Wilson should know more of the playbook.
Also, maybe we could get some pressure. I liked the 2 sacks, they were important plays that happened when they needed to. But I want constant, consistent pressure.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
they don't have as good of O line as us
they will see more pressure from the Ravens D
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Brick played awesome.
The new, “in-shape” Suggs looked horrible. And other than that one sack, your LG did a good job not letting Ngata get to Sanchez.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
we had a turnover
and penalties at the mind-blowingly wrong times, like the edwards one that let the drive continue leading to a TD, and the pass to keller to the four yard line, all the PI calls that kept drives alive _
You had a TO that cost you probably 3 points.
We had a TO that gave you 3, and 2 others that took 3 points each off the board.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
and the illegal shift on edwards
which had put us in a very good position to score a touchdown
that would of been the longest passing play of the night right?
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Our first fumble also put you in great position to score a TD.
How’d that work for you? Bend but don’t break.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but it wasn’t at the four-yard line
Accepted.
But I trust my defense to stop you at the 4. Like they stopped you at the 12.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
haha i think we could've gotten it in
if it was from the four, but i respect your opinion
Homerism ftw
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Or that pick to Cro
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Really missed T. Jones and Leon tonight
I believe in Greene, but man, really lousy tonight. And if this team needs to rely as LT as their feature back in game winning drives, they are truly screwed. Can’t believe they gave away Washington essentially for a guy who may not see the field this year.
then they would not have some of the other players they siugned
TJ was making over 6 million if I am not mistaken?
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
I'd be fine with that if
it meant no Taylor and no LT.
Taylor was a lot better than I expected, especially against the run.
by nationalist88 on Sep 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
he made like 1 tackle against the run
what did he do against the pass? It was all Thomas and Ellis. Taylor is over the hill and so is LT, they weren’t good signings. If we go to LT on 3rd and 2 all year, we will never convert.
We wouldve been no better even with Chris Johnson back there
If the threat of the pass isnt there, teams will do what the Ravens did to us tonight.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
But Greene has no hands
and LT is not LT, despite the occasionall nice run. We downgraded at RB in my opinion.
I dont have a problem with getting younger with Greene over TJ ...
But Schotty and Sachez were way too predictable tonight.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Your offense is too one-dimensional. Is this Shooty or Sanchez?
It's a Schotty family legacy
conservative to a fault, play-calling not to lose.
I wanted to this earlier ^^^^^^^
But didn’t want to speak on his old man. They do tighten in the crunch.
Rex doesn’t go into the “prevent defense.” (Which just prevents you from winning.) Why is our offensive coordinator basically the antithesis of Rex?
I think some of it is that Sanchez checks down too much
Receivers are out there running patterns I think….are they all running 5 yard outs?
It was sickening
The Jets offense wasnt this vanilla in the pre season.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but...
Is that because he wants to or because it’s been hammered into his head by the coaching staff?
I’m not saying Sanchez isn’t SOME of the problem, I just think throwing it all on him is totally unfair.
New Orleans Saints
There DC and HC/OC mirror each other. A chess match takes place every practice. Agression on agression.
This is not taking place in New York with the Jets.
Sanchez did not get a chance to do much
I wish they would of taken the leash off him tonight, its prety easy to defend when the defense knows it will be a run or a less then 5 yard pass :(
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
All I know is that if Thomas Jones is getting those carries instead of Shonn, we probably win.
Was it worth the salary dump now?
I still think he’ll be a very good back, but he needs more seasoning and has to work on covering up.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
they had chances to overcome all the fumbles and the one bad call
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
I would have rather had a decent OC than Jones no question
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Sep 13, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
was schotty the one who decided to pull greene?
i feel like the playcalling also limited what sanchez could’ve done
Sanchez couldn’t even get yards with 1:30 left against a prevent. Sickening.
Maybe we can use one of our endless supply of overpaid corners to play quarterback?
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn't get help though either
Cotch drops a key 3rd down pass, and Keller stupidly thinks he has a 1st down. But, yeah, he has to play a lot better.
Dont know what Keller was thinking
But the person holding the marker did move it. What was up with that?
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought
he was worried about getting his feet in and didn’t care about the marker.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It really wouldnt have mattered
I can tell you what happens if he gets the first down anyway. A bunch of checkdowns to the RB and Sanchez gets sacked on last play of the game.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll tell you
that I was worried. And I thanked Keller vigorously when he did it.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The Jets did not deserve to win this game
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure either team deserved it
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah well I m hop[ing this is a wake up call for the offense
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
He’s going to be out of the league if he can’t hold on to the ball.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
With that game plan, Faneca wouldnt have mattered
Joe Montana couldnt win
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Montana would have destroyed that half-assed secondary.
By himself.
With no O-line.
And one receiver.
by nationalist88 on Sep 14, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I gotta say... Overall,
We did NOT play like Jets tonight.
Sorry umohan, I’ve been watching this shit for way too many years now. Like Jets is exactly how we played. Like Same Old Jets…
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It might be a tad bit early for that
The Ravens arent exactly junk. Many have picked them to win it all.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but it’s always something, isn’t it?
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
our defense is eons better than before
could the same defense have kept us so long in the game under mangini???? look at how long the ravens had the ball!
Sure. We looked better than Coslet’s teams too.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Coslet let the QB throw down the field
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, who was the QB during his tenure, O’Donnell? Hmm.
Anybody got his phone number?
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny OBrien, Browning Nagele and Boomer
Boomer probably still has it more than Sanchez ever will
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Boomer! We gotta at least try, right? And this time we’d actually have a line to protect him. I miss Kenny O too, he had some great years…
Even Nagle couldn’t be worse than what we’ve got.
by nationalist88 on Sep 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Nagle? Meh
Just awful. I liked Kenny O. The Jets are a good QB away from being a contender.
by YankeesJets on Sep 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
O'Brian was a player
I remember his legendary duels with Marino. Wesly Walker anyone.
Concussions ended his career.
It was a shame too
Those were great games.
by YankeesJets on Sep 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Tempo
One of my many issues with the Jets offensive offense was the tempo of the game. Every offensive play had Sanchez checking out of the original play and using the entire clock to get the play off giving the Ravens an opportunity to figure out what we were doing. There was no flow to our offense. No quick snaps to keep the D off balance. They didn’t throw downfield all game and then you expect Sanchez with a buck thirty on the clock and starting inside your own 20 with one timeout to all of sudden throw downfield.
I’ve never been against Schotty as I thought he did some creative things with the ball but I would have him on a two-game audition and if he can’t open up the book with the talent on the field then he should go before game four because that was one of the worst called games of all time.
all the teams that are suppost to be the great ones have looked flat or down right ot good this week
the Jets \O has looked the worst but I am trying to find positives.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
If this Jets team shows up Sunday vs the Pats
It is going to be over after the first quarter.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The Patriots look explosive
Rany Moss is angry and gunning for new contract.
o yeah without a doubt they looked great I meant other then the pats
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Cromartie
should have easily out-run or break a tackle from flacco and score on that INT. Anyone besides me frustrated by that?
and sanchez had no sense of urgency on that final drive (or any drive really). He was ready to mail it in. Even if if the clock is stopped, with under 2 mins just hike the freakin’ ball and get movin dude. THROW DOWNFIELD DAMMIT. ED REED WASN"T IN THE GAME!!!
Ravens fan.
But I was upset by a block in the back on Birk on that play. Clear penalty, right in front of the ref as the ball went by. It was probably balanced out by the other questionable calls though.
One thing for sure, you score a TD there, that’s game.
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Cro Pick
I was surprised the Cro got caught by Flacco but he did come across the entire field having to run away from everyone.
On the brighter side the D played tremendous against the run limiting Rice to 43 yds on 21 carries. What other D is doing that? Rex is gotta give help to Cro and Wilson until Poole and Pace are back. If Jenkins ends up out with a sprain for a few weeks the D could really amp it up by week four with these guys back. Good thing Pouha got the reps last year.
The O can’t play any worse and by game five we get Holmes back and he is a difference maker. Gotta be 2-2 by game 5.
yeah he looked tired
to get run down, the were on the field along time though
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
I am actually impressed the D held up the whole game
The offense and Schotty did them no favors with all those 3 and outs.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Schein right now
They quit on Greene very quickly tonight. Im thinking Sanchez and Schotty are a bit too enamored with LDT.
Greene didn’t leave them much of a choice.
Editor-In-Chief
Gang Green Nation
SB Nation's Jets Blog
http://www.ganggreennation.com
yeah not really a choice there, the Jets could not afford a fumble with the flow in that game\
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Yeah...
TWO drops? TWO? And one that completely crushed the momentum gained by Cro’s pick? I mean… COME ON. It wasn’t just the mistakes on their own, but the mistakes were always at the worst possible moments.
I hated the LD acquisition as much as anyone, but the facts remain: LD ran for 62 with a 5.6avg, Greene ran for 18 with a 3.6 and two freakin fumbles. You cannot play a guy who gives the ball away to the other team.
LD might just have a lot more left than I gave him credit for.
by nationalist88 on Sep 13, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont trust him down the stretch
Greene shouldnt lose his job that early.
by YankeesJets on Sep 13, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Tomlinson is nice as a change of pace back at this point
but try giving it to him on a 3rd and 3 or a 3rd and 2. He will not convert. That’s where we need Greene. Giving Greene only 5 carries is just ridiculous. He’s a guy that needs touches. They didn’t have the ball much, though, so it’s a little understandable.
How come everytime our HC loses weight, we suck? Parcells went on a diet, Vinny got hurt and we sucked. Then Mangini lost weight after a 10-6 year and we sucked. Now Rex comes along, loses a ton of weight in his second year and we’re staring suck straight in the face once again.
lol freak patterns
"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."
"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
One of the biggest plays of the night:
3rd and 4, just under 5 minutes left, and I believe it was Slauson got absolutely run over by Ngata for the sack. The weak links always show up in key situations like that.
Fire Schottenheimer, please
Anybody miss T. Jones & A. Faneca, yet?
I’ve had enough of Brian…..
Really?
Key to the season
Purchase a gaming system and Madden ’10 for Schotty. Then let an adult run the offense.
and another thing
how the hell does your team mate’s ass cause you to fumble. That must be one tough ass.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Gang Green Nation
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
