Mid-Preseason Winners and Losers

by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 25, 2010 7:47 PM EDT

Honestly, all I want to know right now is whether Revis is going to play or not. So before my mind goes numb with these conflicting reports, I figure we'll do a quick recap on the players actually, well, playing football for the New York Jets right now. Yes, I am stealing this idea from Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports, who does his own "Winners and Losers" column after each NFL week.

Lets start with the Winners:

Kyle Wilson: While he may have been literally handed the job (Dwight Lowrey conceded the starting spot), he has had a great camp so far. Jets fans have to be counting their blessings that the Jets drafted him, and that the Pats, Texans and Browns all passed on him for other corners.

Matt Slauson: The biggest "true" position battle of camp, 6th round pick Slauson has taken a substantial lead over this year's second round pick Vladimir Ducasse. Whether he keeps it remains to be seen, but this is MID-PRESEASON awards for a reason.

John Conner - If T-Rich wasn't still around, the coaching staff would have no problem starting him.

Vernon Gholston - I never thought Gholston would end up on this side with the winners, but with Ropati out, he will play a crucial role this year. That's right, I just put "crucial role" and "Gholston" in the same sentence.

LaDanian Tomlinson - Hes looked fantastic in the two preseason games. If he just accepts his role, he will have a tremendous year in a much better locker room.

HBO - I heard ratings were up like 35% from last year's years Hard Knocks.

Losers after the Jump:

Losers:

2nd Team Secondary: Not only were they torched against the Giants, but with Revis out, they will need to play in roles that they may not be able to fill.

Joe McKnight: If you haven't seen the second episode of Hard Knocks, it pretty much sums it all up. He had a nice return against Carolina. Give this kid a little time though.

Kellen Clemens: It's not that he's played bad, but for someone aspiring to be a starter, getting replaced and pushed down the depth chart and on the trading block isn't the nicest place to be.

Mike Tannenbuam - I just feel bad for the guy who has to deal with the Revis thing on a daily basis.

Jason Davis - He would make just about any other roster except the Jets. He's stuck between The Terminator and Tony Richardson. Not where you want to be.

Darrelle Revis - Just because he's missing out on a great opportunity, I have to put him here. Not to mention he's killed his image.

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by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 25, 2010 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

It's Fine

I’m curious, I keep meaning to ask about Gholston. Isn’t this basically his contract year? Since if the Jets let him go, he wouldn’t really cost anything against the cap.

It’s nice to see him finally doing anything, but could this just be a continuation of him being lazy? He’s only working hard now because it’s a contract year and the gravy train might be over.

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by Mark D on Aug 25, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe Sanchez should go with the losers. He did look decent against the Giants, but they sat a lot of guys and he did basically throw a pick 6. And last week he looked absolutely terrible. Hopefully he turns it around on Friday, but so far he hasn’t shown he’s ready for the big time yet.

by Crackback on Aug 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions

That’s the issue that has been playing on my mind a lot over the last couple of weeks Crack. We do hear about improvements and him sliding, and his knowledge….but we also hear about him throwing picks on a daily basis. Pick 6 (practically) against the Giants, and then a poor showing against Carolina which included one (maybe more, can only remember 1) tipped pass that was nearly intercepted. It’s started to worry me, hopefully some of those fears will be eased in the 3rd pre-season game.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 25, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions

For me it’s not the kind of fear that can be eased by one preseason game or even one regular season game. He needs to show consistency avoiding mistakes over a long stretch.

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by John B on Aug 25, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh the fears will definitely not all be eased by one game, but I’d just like to see a good performance with no mistakes. A kind of Giants performance without the interception. It would be a start.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 25, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

the thing about the giants game

is the giants played a purely basic 4-3 defense without blitzing. not sure that’s the best game to base it on.

by maculis on Aug 26, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Know what kills me Dave? He can’t throw it in the middle of the field still. Everything seems to be outside the hash. For once i just want to see him move a safety with his eyes and drill it in there on a crossing route.

by Crackback on Aug 25, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s true, very little is inside….I remember him trying to come over the middle last year with Keller and the timing not being there. He still has a long way to go.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 25, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

The carolina game was very telling.

He loves his roll out. It’s almost his signature. Carolina was ready for it early in the first when they did a good job of contain. I don’t know if it was an end or an LB but as soon as Mark rolled and saw the defender in his face ready to make the sack. Did he slide? Protect the ball or throw it away. No. He rears up on his heels, offbalance, and hurks it to Cotch. Horrible pass bobbled instead on an interception. And he was way off his game from that point on. His reads on every play and his reactions to busted plays need to get alot better.

by colinyoung on Aug 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions

You know, One thing I'll never EVER forget

is his first ever pre-season game against the Ravens last year. His first play he looked like he was going to cry. Ray Lewis. ’Nuff said. lmao

by umohan21 on Aug 25, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Been watching the Carolina game this afternoon just to get a look at him, and it’s not comfortable viewing. You just get the feeling that he’s locked on to receivers out of the huddle on pretty much every play. On the roll out it was a DL in his face who tips the ball that is almost interceted by Beason. On one of his first throws, he tries to thread it to Edwards and throws it right into a defensive backs bread basket, fortunately he can’t hold on to it. His touch pass to Holmes was poorly thrown and a dangerous one as well, trying to throw it over one coverage, but in front of another, and the two players were 5 yards apart, that’s dangerous.

2nd sack is 70%on Hartsock, and 30% on Tomlinson, both whiff on their blocks.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 26, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions

I hate to say it

But his inability to flow threw his reads has always been a problem. We all need to go back to the playoffs last year. 85% of his passes were to their designed WR. Despite being at his best all year. I would like to go out on a limb and say that it was Shotty’s finest moment and not Marks. Play design was genius. Understand, I dont want to take anything away from what Mark did. Im not saying he’s garbage. I just don’t think he’s progressing like we all thought at the end of last sesason.
Another thing. Alot of people point to this dominant defense and say that it can only help a young QB progress. Forcing him to make solid reads and execute pinpoint passes. I don’t agree. Marks insistance on relying on his assigned read tells me that the only way he can be sucessfull against the Jets first team Defense is to stick to Shotty’s brainy schemes and even thinking about deviating from his first read is not an option in his head.

by colinyoung on Aug 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions

Great rundown

I love watching my guy Kyle Wilson but I enjoy watching “The Terminator” almost as much. When was the last time you heard that about a fullback.

And, totally agreed about Tannenbaum. That guy has to be sprouting new gray hairs every day.

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by JRig on Aug 25, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions

I expect us to win field goal games all year. The defense still rules the roost. Sanchez is only 23. I say put the reins on him now and hopefully by week ten he gets it and we can have a great playoff run again.

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by jimsjets on Aug 26, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions