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by John B on Aug 23, 2010 9:49 PM EDT
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Print...and then there's Mike Florio being critical of somebody for allegedly stretching the truth. Florio doesn't believe Tim Cowlishaw that a Darrelle Revis deal is getting done. Now if Cowlishaw's two decade career of being accurate didn't convince you he might be onto something, the fact Florio thinks he is making the story up should.
Let's take a look at some of Florio's nonsense:
Meanwhile, we don't fault Cowlishaw for laying the foundation for an eventual retreat. Since he openly believes that it's normal and acceptable for beat writers to "shoot down" stories like this even if they're accurate, Cowlishaw probably also believes it's normal and acceptable to swing the bat, miss the ball, and then blame the pitcher.
Now if it wasn't funny enough that the least reputable football writer in the business is criticizing a guy who is actually a good writer, check out what Florio himself wrote earlier in the article:
Sure, maybe the Jets and Revis have decided as part of their code of silence that they'll jointly spring the announcement on the world via a "special announcement" at the start of Wednesday night's edition of HBO's Hard Knocks, perhaps even with a live broadcast of the signing ceremony. But if that's what's happening, more than one guy would inevitably find out about it -- and once word of it got out at least one "source with knowledge of the situation" would do something other than lie through his teeth.
That sure looks to me like Florio is building the foundation for an eventual retreat by swinging the bat, missing the ball, and blaming the pitcher if he is wrong.
I understand nobody thinks Florio is credible. Normally I just let his ridiculous rantings go, but this takes the cake even for him. Unlike Florio, Cowlishaw has a reputation for being accurate. I'm not sure hypocritical is a strong enough word to describe what this article is.
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Glorio and Jason La Confused should get together and start up a “real journalism club/” They’d have a grand total of 2 fans. Glorio and Jason La Confused.
You can add Lombardi to that club as well.
by jimmy_d on Aug 24, 2010 1:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't like using the word hate all that much.
But I hate Florio. With a passion, if fact. The thing I hate the most about him at the present moment is if you could somehow disconnect the name of the author from this story it almost sounds like a coherrent thought. Aside from making a sly quip in that first exerp about baseball and making it sound like fact as he attacks Cowllishaw’s credabilty, he almost makes a passable point when he says:
“But if that’s what’s happening, more than one guy would inevitably find out about it —”
If this was set in motion a long time ago with the intention of pulling back the veil on live television. Why is it, that some stupid grip or make-up girl or some other pee-on or someone that could easily be in the know, has not let it slip and blown this thing wide open? Just one little tip off to Tim Cowlishaw, of all people, while the rest of the horn blowers call BS on this guy. I have never heard of a story being broken like this. Oh god! Somebody put me out of my misery!
by colinyoung on Aug 23, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
He really does have quite a gift
for spewing garbage. At least if he was coherent there would possibly be something redeemable about his writing, but he has to be a thundering moron on top of being hateful. Why assume that somebody would HAVE to have said something if this was true? People lose their jobs for shit like that. If you want to disagree, fine, disagree. But the least you could do to maintain some sort of journalistic integrity/professionalism (granted, a concept with which Florio is unfamiliar) would be to write something that made sense instead of making an irrelevant analogy and vomiting forth mindless drivel upon the masses. Sometimes I wonder how he is still employed
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by blueandorange4life on Aug 23, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
Check out the comment section for a laugh.
Guy is getting ripped apart by his own readers. Bad.
Hey don’t know if you guys saw this but Basset posted it on the Jets Blog and he made a great point. Look at this quote from Cowlishaw:
"I will say this … if you want to read between the lines … a player and agent control when the player signs … a team doesn’t control anything other than what they offer." – Tim Cowlishaw, DMN
He goes on to make the point that Revis had probably set this Wednesday as a date to accept what the team was offering if he did not get what he wanted. This way he could get a week of practice in before the 3rd and most important preseason game. Seems like Cowlishaw might be on to something.
As for Florio, Francesa loves him so that pretty much sums it up.
meant to say he wants to be in camp a week before the final preseason game so he can at least get some time in at game speed. You know Ryan would make him play at least a half against the Eagles.
by chrebetsthebet on Aug 24, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Francesa loves Florio?
That is definitely news to me, I have been listening to Mike Francesa for years and never got that impression. Since we are in a post talking about comedy, I find it comedic how so many people get wound up by Mike. First of all, I see him always called a Giant fan here, which isn’t true. He was a Parcells fan, and just and NFL fan. If he were a Giant fan you would know it, like you know he is a Yankee fan. Second of all, Mike Francesa has real NFL people on with good sources who are good interviews, like Mike Mayock, Jay Glazer, etc. Mike knows football and he does a good job. Francesa and Florio aren’t even comparable, Florio is a hack to his peers, whereas Mike’s radio show is the most successful of it’s kind basically ever.
I just think people get way to wound up by a guy who a lot of the time is getting paid to get on the air and….. wind people up. The similarities between Mike Florio and Mike Francesa go no further than their initials.
that was the most important thing you got out of my post? Geez I guess I need to go back to the drawing board.
by chrebetsthebet on Aug 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry,
nothing personal. I just think Francesa is pretty good at what he does and people trash him because he can be a dick sometimes. I think in terms of football knowledge, good analysts doing interviews, and in terms of sources he is pretty good. If Francesa actually loved Florio (which I don’t believe is the case), I would feel stronger about Florio because I actually think Mike knows football pretty well. All the stuff about the Jets are clowns is to stir up some drama on a slow day. If it comes down to it and Mike is talking football, I know he has respect for Rex Ryan as a coach and of the Jets as a team in general. He was very complimentary towards Sanchez when he interviewed him after the season, and of the whole Jets team, despite some of the comments he made during the year. He isn’t really the type of guy who will suck up to a guy that he really isn’t impressed with, so I took a lot from that. Francesa can be douchy but he is a pretty smart guy, both in terms of sports and in terms of keeping a high quantity of fans for over 2 decades.
Francesa’s biggest problem is he’s totally out of touch with the real world. I have to admit I have followed him for a long time and at times have both loved and hated his show, but his ti-raid about Rex’s language after the first Hard Knocks made me sick, and realize just how out of touch he is. He made some statements during that program, which had me completely question his intelligence, and as a result I will never listen to the show again.
Again, I
look at stuff like that as his way of amping up the listeners on a slow day and getting some angry calls in. Mike knows coaches cursed, hell, he has been a Bill Parcells fan boy for ever.
I don’t always agree with Mike’s morals about sports because I am 22 and he is like 50 or whatever, but I do think when it comes down to the actual sport he knows his stuff. I agree though, there are certain days where I can tell, “okay, Mike is in aggressive, instigation mode,” and turn off the show. He isn’t stupid though.
"Hard Knocks" special live announcement?
Not gonna happen. People are making this show out to be more than it is. Revis did not hold out to boost ratings. There is no conspiracy. The show simply covers what’s going on.
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it’s like I said yesterday, I think the idea of Revis boosting ratings and people tuning into watch hard knocks is just silly. First of all, most football fans will watch the show no matter which NFL team is featured, and regardless of who is holding out or not. Would we turn on Hard Knocks for the whole hour to watch the Chargers just to see if Vincent Jackson got re-upped? Of course not, not unless you weren’t planning on watching the show anyway.
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