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Revis, Jets Still $40M Apart

The contract impasse continues, even after Tim Cowlishaw reported yesterday that Revis' camp and Jets' front office were to agree to a deal on Wednesday.

As it stands, it seems like that "report" is carrying less and less validity.

Newsday is reporting the Jets reportedly offered up to $122M/10 years to Revis. However, the All-Pro CB is looking for something in the ballpark of $162M/10 years.

So two weeks ago, we were at $120M vs $160M... we are now looking at $122M vs $162M.

On the surface, it doesn't look like much progress is being made here and that both sides are still standing firm. I have to question Tim Cowlishaw and his reports from yesterday as my co-writers did last night, but we'll see when Wednesday rolls around.

As bad as we need him out there, $162M does seem a bit ridiculous. Peyton Manning's current deal is only worth 7 years/$98M... is Revis more valuable to this team than Peyton is to his?

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Revis is totally out of line. Most players don’t make that kind of money and he won’t accept it?!? Through this whole holdout, my image of him has changed from a great cornerback to a brat who whines until he gets what he wants.

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by Goalvalchuk on Aug 23, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

My Neurosurgeon is Holding Out!

I was just diagnosed with a brain tumor and I need surgery to remove it. The insurance company wanted to pay him $100,000 for the operation. He want’s $200,00 because he says he’s the best damn brain surgeon in the country. So I’m sitting here hoping it doesn’t metastasize while the doctor and the insurance company argue about it. I wonder if they care about me or the money?

by Sherman Plunkett on Aug 23, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might have to try and get the operation done without him.

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by dvdvil on Aug 23, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don’t think anyone knows wtf they are talking about. I really think Cowlishaw believes in his source, which gives me a bit of hope, also I think if his source is with HBO, they might be trying to keep this thing from the Jets beat writers, to create a big event on Wednesday (makes total sense). It’s also not like the Jets writers have had anything to report about it since the blackout, so it eassy for them to save face and report what they think they know, instead of saying, we have no idea where they are, a guy from Dallas is cooping us.

I’m really interested to see what goes on Wednesday.

by Judgegavel on Aug 23, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

If this source is with HBO….it’s a damn good way to boost their ratings for this Wednesday’s show.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 23, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

John and I were talking yesterday right after the news broke, and we both came to the conclusion that it was an HBO source.

Just what we thought though, could definitely be wrong, we’ll see.

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by Matt Birch on Aug 23, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It might be HBO, but I wouldn’t bet money on it. It could be anywhere. Maybe Dave Wannstedt (former Cowboys assistant and Revis’ college coach). It could be somebody we’ve never heard of too.

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by John B on Aug 23, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing we can certainly agree on though, is that there is a moratorium on discussing the negotiations, yet somehow Newsday came out with information as if it’s something new. Wasn’t it reported more than a week ago that Revis and the Jets were 40 million apart? What’s new here?

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by rxmeister on Aug 23, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The difference of $2 Million is apparently “new.” Ha.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mevis more valuable than Manning? That’s a joke. If this clown wants a 162M contract Tanny should get on the phone and look for some idiot, if there are any, who’d pay it. Blockbuster trade!

by nationalist88 on Aug 23, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Al Davis would!

(Nothing much to offer though besides Aso and maybe McFadden)

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by Matt Birch on Aug 23, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is Al Davis' damn fault in the first place

If he wouldn’t have paid a corner $15M+ for a season, Revis would have taken the $122M and we’d all go home happy.

Or at least i like to think it’d have gone that way.

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by Matt Birch on Aug 23, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Al Davis isn't even calling the shots anymore in Oakland.

You saw that damn decent draft they had. You really think the Son of Satan is capable of doing that without a virgin sacrifice? And they actually cut Russell! You really think Undead Al is capable?

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Lets just offer them Revis for 10 players to be named later… and we can choose any player we want to name over the next 10 years. Lets start with Seymour and Aso and then we’ll move on from there.

by revans on Aug 23, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is weird

This article has been up for 12 whole minutes and crackback hasn’t posted saying Revis is worth 200 over 10 years.

Just kidding Crack…kinda

by revans on Aug 23, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't let Revis's camp see those numbers.

Douche 1 and Douche 2 would start asking the Jets for $20 Million per.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

40 million apart. Sounds like Revis is more likely to hold out the rest of the year rather than sign a new contract this year.

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by KSJ49 on Aug 23, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't necessarily blame Revis 100%.

Sure, he has the final say to end this charade, but the dirty agents behind the deal are to blame for this posturing and delusional perception. They don’t really care if they ruin their clients image if they get the giant payday right now. Heck, this would have to be one of their biggest paydays. It doesn’t matter what team he plays for to them or if it ruins said team in the long term, they want their cut.

That being said, Revis needs to man up and protect his image along with his career potential. So many great players never get a ring, and if this costs Revis a ring, no one will have sympathy for him. His agents could give a damn and aren’t looking out for his best interests at all, they’re just looking out for their wallets in the short term, it’s pretty obvious.

by Timmaht on Aug 23, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope he's right

That article reads like it’s written by a man with a lot of confidence in his source.

by ClipCat on Aug 23, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't afford to give him that much money

I know this will sound cazy but maybe the best option is give Revis permisson (just to talk no way in hell really trade him) to talk to other teams. It is a big risk but I really don’t think he will find 2 GM’s willing to give him the money he wants. In theory if this plays out like I think and hope it does, Revis will realize no one will meet his asking price which brings him back to the Jets offer (long shot at best)? Don’t know if it will work but it seems like nothing else is working. I don’t want him to sit out the whole year and this process as it is now is going and staying with no progress.

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by BL3ACH on Aug 23, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

DUMP REVIS

Let Derrell sit on a park bench with his dumb @$$ uncle and talk about how much money they will make after sitting out a year and then facing a LOCKOUT. He is a total moron. His actions should not bring down the team, the city and the fans. Shame on you, start the rookie and we will deal with it. A ten year deal worth 122 million is not enough, give us all a break. Let another team deal with this idiot. just get some compensation……

by TCK on Aug 23, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Now we’re talking. Here’s a guy who’s not willing to cornhole the whole team just so King Mevis can fleece us over the ONE standout season he had.

Call his agents, tell them GFY, trade this asshole to the freakin Browns and let’s play football.

by nationalist88 on Aug 23, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Try not to let emotions get in the way of rational thought.

I am as upset as everyone else. I was at the Ring of Honor ceremony when the fans were booing Woody Johnson and Mike Tannenbaum.

But let’s be realistic. I’m very surprised by how many people who comment on this site, John B especially, who really seem to believe that Revis is expendable. Revis is the difference between 2-3 wins. That is the gods honest truth. He is almost as important to this team as their offensive line, is more important than their qb, and def more important than their coach.

If it wasn’t for Al Davis, the Jets would be comparing his salary to the next highest salary. That’s how football works. Revis is a once in a generation type of player. He’s holding out until he gets paid like one. It’s sad, but it’s true. You can blame him as much as you want, but any other player with his abilities would be doing the EXACT same thing.

We need to get Revis in uniform if we want to succeed during the season, especially if we want to succeed during the playoffs. That’s all there is to it.

Everyone calling him names needs to just take a deep breath and hope Tannenbaum can make a deal.

by Gideon Jay on Aug 23, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

wrong! there are a whole lot of players who don’t demand top dollar to play for their team. Bady for one.

by cjm1860 on Aug 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

B(r)ady's not one?

Have you been following this off-season? Please, name another.

by Gideon Jay on Aug 23, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think cjm1860 is referring to the year Brady reworked contract for his team.

And he did that with the purpose of giving the Patriots more room in the cap so the team could stay competitive. cjm is actually making a valid point. Brady is also not demanding anything outrageous to anyones knowledge and neither is he holding out of camp at the detriment of his team.

by colinyoung on Aug 23, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t compare Brady to Revis. Brady got his money already, he can afford to be magnanimous. Revis is still working on his rookie deal. How about comparing him to Leon Washington instead? One injury and the Jets cut him loose like he’s a piece of garbage. Revis sees that and is trying to set himself up for life. Forget about the fact he’s asking for 160 and the Jets are offering 120. How much of the Jets offer is guaranteed? That’s what Revis and the agent are negotiating, the rest is just fiction numbers that will never be realized.

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by rxmeister on Aug 23, 2010 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed on one point.

Brady had already made a comfortable living by that time. However, If I were to draw a proper comparison OF MY OWN that would illustrate the right way and wrong way to handle a contract dispute. You would’nt need to look any further than our own Center. Nick Mangold played the contract game the right way. Despite playing a vastly more dangerous position and never earning a yearly salary of over 1 mill untill he hit performance based incentives this year, he reported to camp with the understanding that he could only help his case by playing the role of the good little boy scout. The end result? Nick will reportedly be the best paid center in the league.
Im my opinion, a team has to draw the line somewhere when It comes to rookie contracts. The jets seem to keep to a simple yet brutal approach. If you don’t show up to camp and prepare for the season your put at the bottom of the priority list. Next up for reworking his contract? David Harris!
Actually, I can agree on another point. Guaranteed money does seem to be at the base of this impass. But seeing as how we have no idea where the team and the player are on that matter, I find it impossible to debate.

by colinyoung on Aug 23, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you said Mevis is more important to this team than the coach, that’s where I stopped reading.

by nationalist88 on Aug 23, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by NC_Scott on Aug 23, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m very surprised by how many people who comment on this site, John B especially, who really seem to believe that Revis is expendable.

I have no idea where you;re getting that idea.

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by John B on Aug 23, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps an apology is in order.

John B— I let my emotions get in the way when I made that comment. I called you out only for showing faith that the Jets’ defensive backs have the potential to develop into one of the league’s best. I looked at old comments, I couldn’t find anywhere that you implied that Revis is expendable. So I apologize.

In terms of Brady, I think that most people need to take what he did in stride. He re-worked his contract in 2005 to satisfy Randy Moss’s demands, but: 1) his team was winning super bowls and, as a result, he was making a ton in endorsement money. 2) The renegotiation came with a 30 million dollar guaranteed bonus in 2005 and then continued to make 8+ mill per season after that. This is the final year of that deal and he’s due to make less— about 6 million. So, what’s he doing about it? He’s complaining that he needs a new, giant deal.

Regardless, Brady is still the go-to, poster boy for complaints about athletes demanding more money. It’s not a fair comparison. A better comparison would be if Sanchez decided to re-work his current deal next year to sign Brandon Marshall— but got a lump 30 million guaranteed sum to do so.

In conclusion, this team needs Revis to win a super bowl. I think we can all agree, no matter how upset we are.

by Gideon Jay on Aug 23, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant

Wilson and Cromartie when I mentioned the Jets’ DBs.

by Gideon Jay on Aug 23, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, now I really have no idea what your talking about.

Randy Moss was not on the Pats in 2005. He joind the team in 2007. Brady reworked his contract with the intention that the team resign Deion Branch. Which the team decided not to do despite the reworking. I understand were all Jet fans here. But can we at least be acurate when were talking about our rivals? Tom Brady is not “complaining” that he needs a “new, giant deal”. He was the first player to report to training camp despite rumors that his agent was strongly pushing for him to not attend. The guy is being reported almost weekly as being seen playing golf with the owner Bob Kraft. They actually have a great relationship. As much as I would like to see Brady fail in every way, your just wrong on every count.

by colinyoung on Aug 23, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I called you out only for showing faith that the Jets’ defensive backs have the potential to develop into one of the league’s best.

No need to apologize. I believe that is true. However, I also think Revis has put together a first three years of his career that rival anybody’s. One of the league’s best is quite a step back from one of the best ever.

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by John B on Aug 23, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im done with all this...

This is beyond rediculous. There is no way a sane person would over shoot his worth like this. Revis is either completly insane or this is a huge joke with the punch line set to kick every loyal jet fan in the yams on the next hardknocks. Either way im pissed that somebody is taking us all on a ride.

Does anybody want to talk seriously about a trade yet?

by colinyoung on Aug 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

How many times will it be said before you all realize it's more Revis's Agents than Revis himself?

Those douchebags are the ones whispering in his ear. And there’s only so much whispering, no matter how wrong you know it is, that you can take before it starts to sound pretty damn good. If you keep on hearing the same crap over and over don’t you think you’d fall victim to it too? I wish he would just fire these assholes. They’ve lost all credibility in the league as it is, with contract impasses like our own Revis, Vincent Jackson and others. What GM in the league would want to deal with assholes like these?

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry bud we are not talking about a 18 year old kid, Revis is a man and he puts the people around him and he pays and controls them. If he can’t independently think and realize that his agents are ruining his reputation then something is wrong with him. I can’t excuse a grown man and blame it all on advisers, he has a brain and should use it, no excuses.

Saying that, the one thing I will say is that these numbers would be easier to process if they were joined by the guaranteed $$ amount of each offer. Although they look good, there has to be guaranteed money, how much guaranteed is a hot debate, but until we know just how much the Jets are willing to commit then it’s hard to hold a firm judgement of the situation.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 23, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

It’s his own fault for not firing them 5 years ago.

As for the numbers, Aso is only being paid $15 Mil for last year, and this year. The Raiders have the option to forego 2011. That’s only a 3 year contract! The jets are obviously going to want to lock up Darrelle Revis for life. There’s no way in hell they’ll offer that money for 10 years. I’m sure they can meet on a middle ground, but I have the feeling that the agents have been getting the first look at these numbers the Jets are offering, and if they’re not high enough they won’t even show them to Revis. I feel like he’s been involved very very little, because I’m sure he’s smart person and he would compromise.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with you assessment of its Revis agent not him to blame.

Revis has the ability to say yes or no as well as final say in any contract offer. He also has the ability to fire any agent that don’t have his best interest at heart. Since he is not firing his agent. I blame Revis for sticking with these idiots. I tried to stay away from commenting on somebody who is not part of the team, but please don’t minimize Revis part in this.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Aug 23, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no no, not to minimize his part in it at all. It IS his fault for putting so much faith in these jackasses. I do agree 100% that blame will ultimately fall to him, but people have been forgetting that he hasn’t be carrying out negotiations, his douchebag agents are. I doubt he’s even seen a single contract offer yet. And do you think Revis was present at that diner? I think not.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong interpretation gUys.

The article reads to me as the author doesnt believe colinshaw, and the reiterates the 40MM dollar separation we knew of for the past week. It does not read there still is a 40MM dollar separation just simply restates old info.

by Markis ThatGuy Jones on Aug 23, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

http://www.nesn.com/2010/08/tim-cowlishaw-claims-darrelle-revis-will-sign-wednesday-via-twitter.html

From this article:

“Stephen A. Smith similarly tweeted that LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade were all going to sign with Miami, well before the decision unfolded. His claims were dismissed, but it ultimately turned out that Stephen A. was right.”

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by Goalvalchuk on Aug 23, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Stephen A Smith completely invented stories throughout the entire free agency. He would go on the radio in each city and say LeBron was leaning towards that city. I still think he guessed about Lebron/Wade/Bosh and got lucky.

by jayvb on Aug 23, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else just plain tired of reading about this? Both sides started a media blackout and still there is garbage to read. The next article I read involving Revis will have the head line, “deal reached” or “Sitting out for Season”. None before that.

by JetGreen on Aug 23, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

As tired as you all are of reading about it… yeah that’s about as tired as I am of reporting on it lol

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by Matt Birch on Aug 23, 2010 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s very tiring, but it’s very important. It did look like we were making progress, and perhaps we are, but I’m sure most Jets fans are right there with you JetGreen

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 23, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

REVIS

I used to look up to this guy, i have been following him since he was drafted… I love and appreciate the contributions he has made to this team, but WTF??…. If he doesnt like his deal now, he only has himself to blame, lets not forget he held out most of training camp in his rookie season for this current deal… does he deserve more money ABSOLUTELY!!!… he deserves the 10yr, 100M that was on the table in the springtime… I know i will never see what $1m looks like in the flesh… people are loosing their homes, jobs, and families in these hard economic times and this guy is totally ungrateful… obviosly he’s a trustfunder type born with a dimond spoon in his mouth…. He would have to have a more phenominal season than last year AS A JET, for me to respect him again!

by peteyb1983 on Aug 23, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

$120 million vs. $160 million?

Are you kidding me? We’re laying off teachers, cops and firefighters and someone won’t take $120 million to play football? Where is the outrage and disgust? I’m a season ticket holder since 1964 and I’m done. We are just ATM’s for the NFL, the owners and the players. You pay $30 for a $5 hat b/c it has the logo for an NFL team on it just so you can go around advertising their product on your head. Go to the game…$20 to park, $7.50 for a hot dog, $5 for a soda..ka ching ka ching. Just so we can pay out -of – touch greedy athletes obscene amounts of money in an economy where people are losing their homes and going hungry. I’m sorry poor Darelle might have to compromise somewhere between $120 & $160 million. Boycott the NFL. Take your family to a local D3 or I-AA college game. Trust me, the games are just as entertaining and exciting.

by Sherman Plunkett on Aug 23, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

No kidding bro. Good post.

by nationalist88 on Aug 23, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also plays probably the position with the least risk

out of any NFL position, outside of maybe kicker. Revis literally never has to get hit and barely ever has to tackle anybody. David Harris plays a violent position, is in his walk year, and his working his ass of in practice to get ready for the season. Fuck Revis.

by dookiehead on Aug 23, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are all smart fans, so I’m surprised you’re all missing the point. If the Jets offer Revis a billion dollars over the next ten years, but only 7 dollars per hour is guaranteed, do you think he’s turning down a billion dollar deal if he says no? If you don’t know how much is guaranteed, you really know nothing about the deal.

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by rxmeister on Aug 23, 2010 6:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yea but thats making it a little simplistic, its really not simply about guaranteed money, its about serviceable money. I mean if its a Billion dollar contract, paid out 900 million in the first three, I wouldn’t care if any of it wasn’t guaranteed, its easily obtainable, he’d be pretty stupid to turn it down.

by Judgegavel on Aug 23, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the Jets have said repeatedly they would NOT discuss guarantees until the total amount of compensation is agreed upon.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we were talking contracts in general, but that shouldn’t really matter either, to anyone aside from the agents. The Jets also said they were very open to how the deal would be structured and the guarantee. But the thing is the agents gets paid on the total contract not how its structured. SO what if it was 120 million, but (not saying they would) the Jets agree to make it 25 million per the first three years (not guaranteed), what do you think of that deal, I would sat pretty good since aside from injury its a lock he plays those three years.

by Judgegavel on Aug 23, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s the agents. Do you honestly think that the douchebags have showed even one possible offer to Darrelle? I don’t.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always wondered why a stud like Revis

would even have an agent. You know you are gonna get paid, just see what your peers make and get something in that ballpark (unless that ballpark is skewed by one ridiculous contract). Take 12 million a year and you’re not paying 10 percent to anybody.

by dookiehead on Aug 24, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

20/20 hind sight though

Revis was only very good up until last year, so he would really need to turn around and drop his agent. I can see someone like Sam Bradford doing that I mean his rookie contract is basically set, and once that is over he can see ho he compares to other start QBs if he’s at that level.

by Judgegavel on Aug 24, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

20/20 hind sight though

Revis was only very good up until last year, so he would really need to turn around and drop his agent. I can see someone like Sam Bradford doing that I mean his rookie contract is basically set, and once that is over he can see ho he compares to other start QBs if he’s at that level.

by Judgegavel on Aug 24, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Revis

This poor guy is out of his mind or is listening to some very bad advice from his agents and Uncle, Sean Gilbert. The Jets will never pay him 16 mill over 10 years….NEVER! Who does he think he is?…..When this contract mess first started, I was on his side and felt he deserved a huge raise after how he played his first 3 years but now I am seeing alot of greed and his holdout from camp shows me he is a celf centered little kid or listens to bad advice. He had seemed like a team first guy but now I see the opposite. I hope he comes to his senses soon. i think we can still be good without him but I hate to lose a pro bowl caliber talent over a contract squabble.

by Banquet Crasher on Aug 23, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Revis not worth that much

Just like every other player that has gotten a huge contract after playing well in their rookie contract years looking to up grade their contract before the old one is out they sign and the don’t produce 10 years from now Revis won’t be worth 15 million a season and he knows it!!! and thats why he trying to cash in now heck he may not be worth that in 5 season from now he is a aragant piece of crap and they should make him sit the remander of his contract out loose that money then see what people offer him then probaly no where near the jets offer then he can kick him self in the ass for not signing then kyle wilson will do just fine and turn out just as good if not better than revis jets second teamers need to get on the ball tho and revis YOUR A POOR ROLE MODEL FOR KIDS EVERY WHERE YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF !!!!!!!!

by eyoyo642000 on Aug 23, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly don't think people watch Hard Knocks

to find Revis information. I really, truly don’t. I don’t think Revis’ holdout makes much of a difference at all in terms of ratings. If it were the Chargers would you guys tune in too Hard Knocks to see if Vincent Jackson is going to get a contract? Would you turn on HBO and watch this show for an hour to see if Vincent got re-upped if you weren’t planning on watching the show already?

by dookiehead on Aug 23, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

HOW HARD IS THIS???

I think we give in and sign him to a deal that is written like this:

You get $1 more than the higest CB salary of any CB in the NFL. That salary is calculated each year based on the then current salaries. Only catch is that you are only compared to CBs from the same draft class or earlier (meaning players his age or older). Guarantee the first 3 years, which are the years he owes us anyhow.

This should work well now cause Revis is so young compared to other high earning CBs, but in 3-5 years, he’ll still be great, but on the decline and he wont have recourse to have his $$ matched to young kids who are on the way up (like Wilson).

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by NC_Scott on Aug 23, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

He doesnt want a rolling guarantee

If he did his extension would be simple. Dude wants the dollars in a signing bonus, a real guarantee

IMO

by Foilhat on Aug 23, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is borderline nuts

I mean a 10 year deal really? WTF would the Jets even talk to this guy, he’s under contract for 3 years. I know he’s all world but come on, they should stop negotiations until he returns to earth

IMO

by Foilhat on Aug 23, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t pay attention to years. A contract that long would never hit its end.

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by John B on Aug 23, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t the Islanders give their goaltender a 25 year deal or something like that.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 23, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 years

And can’t forget the Devils tried to give Kovalchuk a 17 year deal. It’s funny Revis was so easy to give a new contract to in Madden 11 lol

by mjbnyr on Aug 23, 2010 8:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That’ll be the next addition to Madden. A rating for how easy it is to get a contract done.

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by John B on Aug 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of madden,

i still have ps2 and madden is awful for it. No new features at all, no online play. Stick with madden 10 ps2 owners.

by dookiehead on Aug 24, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like MJ said 15, but hockey contracts are guaranteed.

by Judgegavel on Aug 23, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its kind of misleading to compare Revis' current contract demands to Manning's deal from 7 years ago.

If we’re going to compare the two, lets wait and see what Manning’s new contract is. Then we can see if Revis is asking for “Manning money.”

The top 5 defensive earners from 2009:
Chris Long, DE St Louis — 19M
Kelvin Hayden, CB Indy — 17.4M
Julius Peppers — 16.6M
Terrell Suggs — 15.1M
Chris Gamble, CB Carolina — 14M
James Harrison, LB Steelers — 13.3M
Glen Dorsey, DT KC — 13M
Derrick Harvey, DE Jax — 12.3M
Chris Cany, DT NYG — 12.2M
Nnamdi — 12M
Bart Scott — 11.5M

Is it really so outrageous to pay this guy 16 per? How much are salaries going to escalate in the next 5 years?

Peppers got 42M guaranteed, making about 13M per.
Haynesworth got 41M guaranteed at about 14.3M per.

As the best defender in the league, Revis’ demands are not at all outrageous.

by Crackback on Aug 23, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Lol. By saying top 5, i really meant 11.

by Crackback on Aug 23, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

LISTEN TO CRACK AND PAY THE MAN ALREADY! GET HIS UNNATURAL ASS IN CAMP!

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Revis = Beast/Demon

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm also serious about not letting his camp see these posts and numbers.

If they did, Douche 1 and Douche 2 would start asking for $20 Million per.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

what

So Kelvin Hayden is really the highest paid cb at 17.4 mil? And Chris Long from the Hams made 19mil?

by ocjet on Aug 23, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's very misleading to present it that way

you really have to go by the cap numbers, and averages.

Hayden for example might have gotten 17.4 with his bonuses, but his cap hit was only like $6 million, and the contract averages under 10 million per. (forget the exact specifics).

by Judgegavel on Aug 23, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what these guys made last year. We all know salaries inflate over time. Often times the differences are huge in just a 5 yr span. In that context, Revis’ demands are not out of line.

The most relevant comps are Peppers and Haynesworth, and the guaranteed cash they received.

I used t he rest to show that 16M in a season is not as crazy as people are making it seem for the best defensive player in the league.

by Crackback on Aug 23, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

16 million is crazy when taken out of context.

by Judgegavel on Aug 23, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of line with what?

They seem to be in line with other top earning defenders when comparing what he brings to table vs them, as well as his age relative to them.

If the Jets are going to refuse to talk guaranteed cash, and theyre going to use 10 year terms to try and shock and outrage Joe public, you’re goingto get these silly and utterly unrealistic and nonsensical back and forths about 120M vs 160M and 40M differences.

Everybody knows the deal has to include guaranteed money, that the term will NEVER be for ten years, and that any value derived from a ten year term is strictly for public consumption.

by Crackback on Aug 23, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

the first two top earning defenders you list deals average less than 10 million a year, Revis is looking for 16+. Using a one year salary that included a major bonus in not comparable, he want’s to average that amount (and want’s a majority guaranteed). If it does go ahead pay him 20 million for this year, wouldn’t bother me, but he cant average 16 per, its going to kill the team long term, it needs to go down to 12 million range per.

by Judgegavel on Aug 24, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t Revis (or any player) care about the cap. They care about the guaranteed money and the money they actually pocket. Whether its a bonus or salary is meaningless to the player, because they can get cut regardless. If the team can structure it better for the cap, great. But the players don’t really care how its structured, IMO.

by Crackback on Aug 23, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should if they care about being on a winning team...

And we have no idea how it will be structured, because they are not agreeing to a total number. And the only one who the total number should matter to is really the agent, because he gets paid off that (and the player if he’s a totally egotistical). Jets have always said they were very open on how it was structured (although thats kinda foolish considering the BS he’s pulled on this contract).

by Judgegavel on Aug 23, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Revis and Co. are matching their silly offer with a silly counteroffer. Both sides know a ten year term is never going to happen. The Jets can’t win here. Keep in mind that Revis losing doesn’t mean that the Jets win.

If the Jets keep throwing out ten year terms to create public animosity towrds Revis, all they do is diminish his value.

So if he doesn’t play, the Jets lose. Bc they are better with him than without him.
If they kill him publicly, they diminish his value and will get less in return than they would have otherwise.

Maybe the brilliant Tanny should offer some guaranteed money to see if maybe… just maybe… Revis would be willing to come down a bit in his total compensation demands. I guess that would just be too logical though.

by Crackback on Aug 23, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

Tanny’s definitely not logical. It’s not like Tanny’s logic and ridiculously good cap management have gotten the Jets to this spot in the first place. It’s not like Tannenbaum drafted the great and powerful Revis in the first place, not to mention Harris, Brick, Mangold, Keller. Not like he brought in a guy who made Eric Mangini’s boring, unintimidating defense into a force to be reckoned with. Give me a break. Tannenbaum knows far more about salaries and cap management than any of us do, it’s what he does, and what he did exclusively before he was named the GM. He understands how much money we can reasonably give him so that we aren’t screwed later on.

Tanny’s not logical (we are throwing out all the evidence here, his whole career and track record mean nothing) because he won’t blindly cave to this guys demands based on some subjective research you have done in your spare time that somehow tells us Revis is worth 25 percent more than anybody else at his position outside of one ridiculous contract that is clearly an outlier?

For me, Mr. T’s track record speaks for itself.

by dookiehead on Aug 24, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guys,

Remember back in May when those idiotic reports came out the Neil Schwartz was seeking 20 Million Per? Honestly I think that’s what this friggin asshole was going for all along.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Revis Contract Should Have A Guild Line

1) For Every Blown Coverage He’s Got to give back 50k 2) If He Doesn’t Hold Recievers to Under 30yards Give back 100k per game 3) Every Year with less than 6 pic offs Give Back 250k 4) If He Don’t Return 1 Pic For Td Every year Give Back 250k 5) If He Don’t Average At Least 76 Solo Tackles a Year Give Back 750k A Year 6) Get At 66 Assitted tackles a year give back 750k a year 7) Get At least 2 Sacks per year if not give back 100k a year If he can garrenty all his stats for the next ten years then he should get his money but he can’t no one can he is not god so on that note he is being totally unreasonable and NEEDS TO START ACTING LIKE A FRINGING PROFESSIONAL AND TAKE SOME TIPS FROM A CLASS ACT LIKE NICK MANGOLD !!!!!!

by eyoyo642000 on Aug 23, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

How bout if he holds out again, he has to give back double every cent he already got paid.

by Judgegavel on Aug 24, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

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