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Could Tim Cowlishaw Be Right?

It seems odd that a reporter from Dallas claims to have a scoop on the Jets and insists he is right while beat writers and national figures close to the team deny it. The natural inclination is to say Tim Cowlishaw is wrong. I don't think it is as crazy as it seems, though, to suggest he might be right.

It is clear that Cowlishaw is getting his information from a source to whom nobody else has access because nobody else is reporting this. Beat writers have their own established sources. They go to them whenever there is a question. The thing about the Revis negotiations is a media embargo imposed by both sides exists. The traditional sources of information might not be there providing the correct answers.  The beat writers also might not go beyond their already established sources when they think they already have an answer. This information might not even be coming from the Jets or the Revis camp. A third party might know.

I am not going to guarantee you Cowlishaw is correct, but it does seem like he is talking to different people than the beat guys are. Even people like Chris Mortensen, who cannot confirm the story, are standing by the writer they know.

On Revis, even though Jets sources deny what @timcowlishaw is reporting; I hesitate to shoot down a very respected journalist like Tim.

Peter King says so too.

I just find it difficult to believe a professional journalist would risk his credibility for a scoop on a team he doesn't even cover unless he had solid intelligence. I suppose we will find out soon enough.

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Cowlishaw has to be correct. Why else would he be saying this? I don’t trust the media 100% on everything, but journalists don’t just make up earth-shattering stories.

I believed him until the Mangold news broke, then assumed he mixed his players up. Then when he stuck by his story, and insisted it’s both of them getting paid, well, dude won me over again.

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by Max VV on Aug 22, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree 100%

He’s got too much to lose by risking going out on this limb, unless he’s fairly certain. He seems to be indicating that the deal is done and that they’re waiting to announce it. That makes me wonder if his source is somebody in the league office. If they’re waiting to announce it, then maybe they’re waiting for league approval because the complications with the 30% Rule abd all that jazz. Maybe his source is somebody that has actually seen the contract, but its not somebody directly connected to either Revis or the Jets, so the NY writers can’t confirm it.

by Crackback on Aug 22, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Cowlishaw stated "Revis and the Jets announce a new deal"

Tim is a Dallas beat writer correct? What are the odds that his contacts are that of a Dallas origin and the Jets are going to be announcing a trade to the Cowboys? Sorry to step on the hopes and dreams of thousands but it was actually the first thing I thought of when I heard Tims name. Is this a possibility?

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Why wouldn’t he just say a trade was in the works then? Then he breaks the story of a blockbuster trade. If that was the case, he’d just be waiting for somebody else to connect the dots and look good.

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by John B on Aug 22, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus it would look like he botched the story when this trade went down.

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by John B on Aug 22, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well technically the Jets would be “reporting” the news of “a new deal with revis”. Just with another team. Hes not so off that he would look like a complete moron.

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way he reported it looks like the Jets and Revis are signing a new contract. It seems like that would be misleading, you know?

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by John B on Aug 22, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im just the kind of guy that looks at things from different angles

2 deals in a week seems like a heavy load for any front office. Especially two chart toppers. My first inclination is to think that his info is some what correct as far as he knows. But Its too good to be true.

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

Maybe the Jets had a number they were good with for Mangold but were waiting to see where they were with Revis. What if the reports are true and the Jets and Revis worked out a compromised deal that would also allow the Jets to comfortably deal with Mangold.

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by Togaman7 on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

All the reports are leaning towards Mangold topping the pay scale for centers in the league. That might put him just under the 5-6 year, 40 mill range if im correct. Thats not exactly a cap friendly deal when it comes to centers. And with Harris playing the same cards as Nick by being a good lil soldier, You would think he gets his payday the same way Brick and Nick did. Can the team in good conscience deal with what Revis is demanding past the uncapped year? To get Revis to compromise something would have had to change in the last few weeks. Whats changed besides our backup secondary getting burned by the g-man last weekend? if anything Revis has the slightest bit of an edge at the bargaining table.

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an idea.

Let’s make Sanchez give back $1 million everytime he throws an INT. Let’s see how quickly we pay all 4 of the core four with that.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done. mabye then he will start throwing the ball away.haha

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, if I was Sanchez, and I saw my team in this situation, I’d restructure to create more cap space. To me, money would come with post season play, and incentives. That’s just me though. Just sayin’.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

F that.

Sanchez worked his ass off his whole life to get to the point where he could get picked in the top 10 and make some serious loot. Now he is supposed to start giving money back after one year in the league? That’s ridiculous, we’re not talking about a 37 year old on the verge of retirement who has made 100 million in his career. We’re talking about a 23 year old one year into the league on his rookie contract.

by dookiehead on Aug 23, 2010 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Why would he restructure his contract after one season? Why would he need to create more space this year anyways being that there is no salary cap? I also don’t get why you think the real money is in the postseason play. Compared to regular season games, players get ripped off because their contract is set around $25,000 per game. That’s good money for the lower paid players, but for the higher prices ones that is much less than their standard game.

by Finhead83 on Aug 23, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

Has anyone ever seen Sanchez throw the ball away?

by george JETson on Aug 23, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

The kid tries too damn hard. Never liked him. Sorry if I’m biased, but seriously, I would rather have Flacco anyday.

by umohan21 on Aug 23, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The more I think about it...

Jones is seemingly the only owner with a track record for backing up the brinks truck for a corner. And the Cowboys were the only team I could come up with in a trade possibility.

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no way. It’s not possible Tanny would ever trade someone of Revis’s caliber, especially when he has 3 years left on this contract.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose your right.

I dont know about the trust relationship between reporters and their sources. I was thinking that he was possibily entrusted with this info with the understanding that a trade possibility was not to be leaked. I dont know if it’s a possibility that Cowlishaw got his info from a reputable Cowboy insider who only gave him the chance to break the silence without breaking the whole story.

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

lets sat you are right what do you think we will get back from boys?

by J3TSFANFORLYF3 on Aug 22, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What could they EVER offer us that would even come remotely close to what Revis is worth? Their first round picks for the next thousand years wouldn’t even suffice. Revis is the Chuck Norris of football.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Ware and a 1st round pick? I think the jets gotta listen to that

by jfjets16 on Aug 22, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

They wouldn’t offer Ware. Maybe Mike Jenkins, a first, and an assortment of other picks.

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by John B on Aug 22, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Jenkins is their best cover corner and a probowler.

But Revis’ contract demands make him hard to move. Or seemingly so. I would say Jenkins and their 2011 first rounder is about correct. I agree John

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think in theory at least bringing back a corner like Jenkins could help the Jets save face. Would Dallas be willing to part with him? I don’t know, but adding Revis would take the sting out of losing him.

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by John B on Aug 22, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could also see Washington making a play for him. They’re always in the market for a big name.

Oakland too if they thought they were going to lose Asomugha. How about a blockbuster swap of corners? The Raiders get Revis locked up long term. Asomugha restructures to get out of Oakland and onto a winning team..

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by John B on Aug 22, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont have the courage to call something like that.

Im simply making the Dallas connection. Jones’ deep pockets. And the Sanders thing is just that icing on the cake. Im just trying to figure out how a guy like Cowlishaw broke this thing when every other reputable JETS source is condeming it.

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far fetched as the idea is.

I like Jenkins’ game alot. And snagging the boys’ first in 2011 isn’t really a horrible deal in my eyes. If nothing else thanks for playing along with my odd way of looking at things.

by colinyoung on Aug 22, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL jumping to ridiculous conclusions

This guy announced that Revis is signing with the Jets, so you’re guessing he might have been traded to the Cowboys, because he works in Dallas? That goes beyond lunacy. If a NY guy reported it, would you guess there’s a 50-50 chance he was traded to the Giants?
    No offense, but a trade to Dallas ain’t happening. All the Jets have talked about from day one is winning a Super Bowl THIS year, so trading their best player doesn’t make sense, not to mention the fact that they could very well meet Dallas in the Super Bowl. How would that look for them? You know why a Dallas guy broke this story? Not because he’s from Dallas, but because he’s better connected than any NY writer.

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by rxmeister on Aug 23, 2010 4:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That deal

The Jets would listen to that trade for sure… the Cowboys wouldn’t though.

by Finhead83 on Aug 23, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well now that Jason La Confused is reporting otherwise,

I now believe Cowlishaw 100%. Anything to go against La Confused’s annoying ass.

Why hasn’t Jay Glazer said anything yet?

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see any reason for him to be lying

Bottom line he gains nothing personally and sinks his reputation. Colishaw’s always been good at the game of journalistic integrity. Ditto for announcing a deal as a precursor to a trade since doing it the way he did it would be sort of lying as well, very unlikely.

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by blueandorange4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Well one thing we know is that he is very confident on his source. Some one wrote on his twitter that he may have mixed up Mangold and Revis. Cowlishaw replied:

@Jets321 yeah I don’t know the difference between mangold and revis. Please…

…I’m really hoping he’s right and I do think he is right.

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by Goalvalchuk on Aug 22, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think it's a trade

The most telling part of his tweet is the end of it:

Revis and Jets announce new deal, probably Wednesday. You heard it here first. “Inside information!”

If he truly has inside information and that info indicated a trade, I would expect him to say “Jets to announce Revis trade, probably Wednesday.” He did not do that, and if there was some deal between him and his source that didn’t allow him to report it, why say anything at all? He’ll look worse if it is a trade.

by BWJ on Aug 22, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel like Mike T is confident in himself that they will sign him. They would also just be stupid to trade him.

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by Goalvalchuk on Aug 22, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man I hope both are true

It seems as though the Mangold deal is a lock, since multiple sources are reporting this. But I also hope that Cowlishaw is right, because…well…I’m a Jets fan! Of COURSE we all want Revis to sign! This would make me VERY happy.

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by kotite4ever on Aug 22, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Revis to the Cowboys because Cowlishaw used to be a Dallas beat reporter? Really?

This is a hokey theory in my eyes, why would the Jets trade away what is probably the final piece to possibly winning it all? People want to make Woody Johnson out to be cheap but I dont see it. I think they are paying Mangold to show Revis what happens when you are a loyal soldier. Im sick of the “Revis saw what happened to Leon” story too. Leon’s agents happened to Leon, they thought he should get MJD money. Jets put a solid offer on the table, Leon and his boys declined stupidly. The Jets know its now or never this year, Revis will be back in the fold by the time the season starts.

by YankeesJets on Aug 23, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Woody is ‘cheap’ either, the fans that label him that are not providing a fair assessment. The main guy behind the cost-cutting moves is Mike T., who is doing it for cap reasons.

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by Matt Birch on Aug 23, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

This will be interesting to follow, especially if Cowlishaw is wrong and it blows up in his face. lol

Also interesting how the NY/NJ beat writers want no part of this war…. which is what makes me question the validity of the report. They’re not speaking out much, and not one of them has given it much merit.

Me and John spoke about a certain Jets’ beat writer who really has the “IN” with Revis’ camp, and even he says he thinks the reports are untrue.

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by Matt Birch on Aug 23, 2010 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I just find it difficult to believe a professional journalist would risk his credibility for a scoop on a team he doesn’t even cover unless he had solid intelligence. I suppose we will find out soon enough.

hey, every NBA writer known to man did that this summer, during the LeBron-a-thon.

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by wilddre22 on Aug 23, 2010 7:43 AM EDT reply actions  

look. Im catching a lot of flack for looking at things a lil differently...

And thats a load of crap. Whats the old saying? " If It’s too good to be true?". Were talking about a player and a team who just a few weeks ago were so off base with each other they probably couldn’t agree on which appetizer to get at Roscoe’s Diner. This team, by it’s own admittance, disagrees with this player on the most fundamental of ideas concerning his current contract with no sign of change. As radio silence takes us to the present moment or at least untill yesterday when the most random and unlikely of reporters from half way across the country suddenly gets tipped off to a contract resolution and shares it with the world. Sorry Jets fans. But that dosnt fly with me. Every other NY based beat reporter is calling shenanigans on this guy. But if you all want to drop to your knees and thank your god of choice that this thing got done in the most unsusal of fashions, thats fine. Untill the day comes where I see Revis in a Jets Jersey, jaw jackin Randy Moss at the line of schrimage, Im gonna keep trying to look at all things reported on this player from any angle other than the idea that he has been signed. And a guy should’nt be shot down for taking a different approach to explaining the unexplainable. So dont mind me boys, but im gonna keep the #24 jersey, I have been wanting to buy in my nflshop.com shopping cart untill I see it with my own eyes.
And for thoes of you who believe the more likely of ideas that this whole thing was, in large part, a play to be acted out for rating on the Hardknocks tv show… I would be livid that this front office and that player successfully yanked you around by your short hairs like it was a big joke.
Do I think this team traded Revis? No I dont. But I didnt see the harm in hashing out an unlikly answer to a HIGHLY unlikly story either.

by colinyoung on Aug 23, 2010 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree....

I say, lets just see what happens.

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by King A! on Aug 23, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not your trade idea that I disagree with

It’s the reasons why you think it might be true. I don’t think any journalist outside of NY should be considered “the most random and unlikely of reporters” to report this. I also think that if they were intending to trade him, Cowlishaw would have said exactly that, and I don’t buy your suggestion that there was some deal with his source that prevented him from saying so. If there was, wouldn’t he look worse rather than better for reporting a story that was wrong?

by BWJ on Aug 23, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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