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Second Game Thoughts

The value of preseason has been on full display the past few weeks. The Jets lost last week, but most people felt positively about how the team played. Tonight the reverse will likely be true. Gang Green got into the win column, but some aspects were not pretty. Below are my thoughts.

-Mark Sanchez was not great, going 5 for 10. I don't think he was as terrible as most will claim. Carolina seemed to be covering the Jets' receivers well. I'm not sure there was much on the table for him. His pass protection was also very spotty. There were two bad throws. The first was a throw into coverage near Braylon Edwards that was almost intercepted. The second was a busted screen where Sanchez didn't get it over a lineman. It was deflected. It is his job to get it over his head. Those are three big mistakes in less than one full game of preseason action. These may not sound like a lot, but one bad throw resulting in an interception per game makes 16 for the year, which is a lot.

-LaDainian Tomlinson looked explosive again. Jets fans need to hope an analogy of the difference between a sprinter and a distance runner is accurate for LT. In San Diego Tomlinson was a distance runner as a featured back. He could not go at full speed on every play because his tank would end up empty. With the Jets he will get plenty of rest and can go at full speed when he touches it. Maybe that will be the difference between success and a lack of it. There have only been two preseason games, but it has looked that way so far.

-The starting offensive line looked bad. They were responsible for most of the bad on the offense. I'm not going to worry. This is a great unit.

-Despite the unit's struggles, I thought number 68 Matt Slauson looked good. He got beaten badly on one passing down but was pretty consistent aside from it. He held up well as a pass blocker. He got a push in the run game. He pulled a few times. When the second team came in, he flipped to left guard. The Jets ran consistently behind him in that role.

-If there was a real competition at the position, I do not think Slauson would have spent both games playing the entire time with the first unit.

-How can Nick Folk gain trust? How about 3 for 3 on field goals with a pair from beyond 40 yards and 3 of 4 kickoffs in the end zone? I generally think preseason is useless. Kickers are one spot where I would make an exception. It is pretty close to the real thing. The pressure might not be the same as the real thing, but nobody is holding anything back. He had a great night.

-The Jets showed a lot more zone than they usually do on third down. Is this going to be a new theme to compensate for the lack of one Mr. Revis? Is it putting a red herring on film for regular season opponents? Is it just a preseason experiment? My money would be on number three.

-Jim Leonhard picked off a pass and recorded a sack. Get used to him being in the middle of big plays.

-Antonio Cromartie looked solid against the run tonight.

-I love Vladimir Ducasse's potential. I think Bill Callahan is the right man to mold him. I would also be surprised if he played a positive role for the Jets in 2010. He doesn't look comfortable with the scheme, his new position, or the speed of NFL players. He is not consistent. He got better when the Panthers put their backups in, but he was uneven at best.

-Dwight Lowery had a nice bounce back game despite a penalty. He broke up some passes.

-I have seen nothing in two games to suggest Mark Brunell is better than Kellen Clemens. He looks comfortable making no throws except checkdowns.

-A pair of backup linebackers Kenwin Cummings and Jamaal Westerman both were in the middle of a lot of plays. I think these guys are quietly going to give the team good depth at the position this year.

-Vernon Gholston looked very good. He was consistently winning his matchups. He made a lot of plays and appeared to draw a holding call in the first half. Am I convinced he is going to contribute this year? No, remember this is only the preseason against backups. I will say if nothing else that he looked better in this game than I can remember him in any preseason contest in the past few years. I still don't see what the team is talking about when they say he has a new role. I'm not seeing him line up at defensive end in a gap maintaining position. I'm seeing him rush the passer sometimes and drop into coverage sometimes both standing up and with his hand down.

-Joe McKnight seemed to improve. He looked more decisive finding his holes. He is still a work in progress. His fumble showed he still needs to get used to the way guys claw for the ball until the play is over (and after) in the NFL, but he did look better.

-I like the way the Jets are using McKnight. They are trying to teach him how to be a more complete back by teaching him how to run between the tackles. His 68 yard punt return was a reminder, though, that he will be most effective when Brian Schottenheimer can figure out how to get him the ball in space.

-Jeff Cumberland had a nice night with 2 catches for 19 yards. That actually made him the leading receiver.

-Steve Weatherford had a clutch 59 yard punt from the back of the end zone. That's what you like to see out of a punter.

-Of Carolina's three turnovers on punt returns, the first two were unforced errors. The Jets should get credit for hustling. The third was caused by Chauncey Washington's big hit. Washington should be ahead of sentimental favorite Danny Woodhead for both contributing on special teams and showing he can drive the pile. Woodhead hasn't shown he can do either. Like McKnight, Washington needs work holding onto the ball.

 

In conclusion, the quarterbacks weren't good. Neither was most of the offensive line. A lot of other guys were solid. It's not the worst thing in the world for the team to have a bad preseason game. I think back to 2002 when the Jets couldn't do anything wrong in preseason and promptly bombed the start of the regular season. Games like this can refocus a team and remind it to work on fundamentals. That's why it's preseason. The main thing for me is that there were no injuries to major players. That makes this game a success to me.

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I don’t think Ropati Pitoitua was going to play a big role, but I do feel bad for him.

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by John B on Aug 21, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah when I saw Jenks carrying him fireman style, I knew it wasn't good knews...

I like Tui! This breaks my heart. I think he has some real potential, but Lord knows what will happen now…

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

#72, Michel Turkovich will probably be cut pretty soon. I like all my former ND players but he was getting abused again this week. He gave up a couple of sacks, and all the pressure was coming from the right side. Would be surprised if he lasted much longer.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 21, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

For how useless preseason is...

I always liked the Browning Nagle year. He looked incredible, the team was just destroying everyone in preseason, which they finished 4-0. How quickly high hopes get trashed. At least in 2002 it was obvious the problem was Vinny was just too old. Which is funny saying considering he lasted another 7 years in the NFL.

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by Mark D on Aug 21, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

You have to...

…chop off his head to stop him!

"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998

by kotite4ever on Aug 22, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta disagree with a couple of things.

First, Cro didn’t look all that good versus the run. His tackles were barely tackles. He was falling backwards and appear pretty tentative. That being said his coverage and quick tackling of receivers was great. Second, while Weatherford had a great clutch punt the rest of his punts are just not that reliable.

Joe McKnight’s fumble was forgivable as he could have been down and he had a couple of direct runs that looked like he’s been listening to his coaches. One thing I didn’t like was how he got gases at the end of that nicely blocked punt return, he should be putting that in for 6 and not giving us a blunder opportunity like we had on offense right after that.

Gholston led us in tackles? Even considering its the preseason, is a good sign. He wasn’t going exclusively against their 2s since their 1s were in through the first half.

All in all it was great stuff from our D, special teams, and some of our backups. I’ll take it for now def.

by Timmaht on Aug 22, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Definitely the best I’ve ever seen Gholston play

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by Matt Birch on Aug 22, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Playing well, even in a preseason game, can only help Gholston

I know everybody considers him a huge bust but I’m rooting for him to turn it around. I think he does care and will finally show us a little something this year.

by YankeesJets on Aug 22, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez is worrying me

I guess i can give Carolina some credit for disguising their defense, but it looks like he is having a tough time reading defenses.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Aug 22, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

ditto

appears he has the checkdown process in mind but you could see him ‘ratcheting’ down the list…….not very smooth and too slow. Agree with the Cro comment….a few of those run tackles could easily have turned into missed tackles

by Fishaa on Aug 22, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big props to Mike Westhoff and the Special Teams unit

Also some improved play from Coleman and Lowery but still getting burned more than I am comfortable with. Sanchez is worrying but I think he will eventually get his head on straight. While he was having a bit of trouble reading the defense the O-Line had a rare bad night so I think it will eventually all even out.

Props as well to Nick Folk, keep up the good work

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by blueandorange4life on Aug 22, 2010 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Sanchez is pissing me off now. I've seen better offense on pee wee teams, and my old High School team that was completely winless my entire 4 years there.

So are the rest of the qbs. I swear I know 12 year old girls who throw harder than Brunell. Clemens was just plain Clemens. and O’Connell is the dumb blonde of the team.

I WANT AINGE BACK!!!!!!!!! And honestly, I would not mind trading Sanchez for Clausen. I liked Clausen back in school much more than I’ve ever like Sanchez at USC.

Anyway, I like how Drew Coleman actually had a decent game. And I think one of the problems that Gholston has had in the past is the lack of playing time. I think the more he’s on the field, the more impact he will have. And if there’s one player on the team who’s brain he should picking constantly, it’s Jason Taylor. Taylor might not be exactly as young as he used to be, but he has always had, and will always have amazing technique.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 1:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Um, its the preseason,

Im sure the Jets arent throwing any regular season stuff out there on either side of the ball. This was played like a throw away game, and guess what, it was. A huge question mark that doesnt get much play has looked decent in the first two games. I’m talking about Folk, we need him to do well, and he has so far.

by YankeesJets on Aug 22, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 of 10 for 12 yards just pisses me off man. I never liked Sanchez at all, so maybe it’s the bias talking, but I mean a top 5 pick should never have numbers like that. Even if it is preseason.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree with you there, it doesn’t matter where he was drafted. That offensive gameplan was as vanilla as you can possibly get, add in some very poor protection and Sanchez didn’t have much of a chance. He should have had better numbers for sure, but I wouldn’t worry too much about Sanchez there.

The protection for Clemens was atrocious, especially on that goal line situation. He had pressure coming from the left, the right (Turkovich for beat 2 times on that series) and up the middle, he did well to get out of the endzone on both occasions. It wasn’t a good performance by him, but he’s still showed a lot more than both O’Connell and Brunell.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 22, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice way to put it;

but I’d still rather Ainge over all of them. Just sayin’.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

OH REALLY!!!!

Ainge is an F-ing druggy…he’s sitting in a drug rehab center right now…he won’t back up in the NFL again

by JETSKID123 on Aug 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So?

The kid probably snorted a couple oz of coke. So did our last idiot President of the US. If Bush deserves a chance, so does Ainge.

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love this Ryan quote as well.

According to the AP, Rex said ‘’I told John Fox it looked like a pillow fight out there with both offenses struggling like that, to say the least…’’ Haha

Here’s the full article: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jets-9-Panthers-3-95320382

by umohan21 on Aug 22, 2010 2:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Will just make one point because you know I’m a fan but Brodney Pool looked pretty good out there. He was quick to the ball, his coverage was good and he jarred the ball out with a hit on two occasions. Wasn’t an all pro performance but he doesn’t get much love so mentioning his contribution.

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by David_Wyatt on Aug 22, 2010 7:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Not to make excuses but

It was a short week with the starters not expecting to play much. Plus, they didn’t study film of the other team either. They’ll study for Game 3, so hopefully they’ll play much better. There’s too much pride and talent for this squad to let it happen again.

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by dvdvil on Aug 22, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

CWash vs Woodhead...

everything I heard up till this point out of camp had Woodhead ahead (lol). Mainly because of his special teams, in fact I almost forgot Washington was on the roster. Washington may be able to drive the pile better, but Woodhead is faster, a better receiver and more well liked by the coaches. Chances are neither will make the team though, I mean I just cant see them carrying 6 RB, and unless TRich is cut, we are bringing to FB.

by Judgegavel on Aug 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

that should read two FBs

by Judgegavel on Aug 22, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

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