First Impressions
by John B on Aug 16, 2010 11:22 PM EDT
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PrintI guess the Giants and their fans take bragging rights. They can brag their third stringers are better than the Jets'. Honestly I'm glad this game is finally over. The hype over a meaningless game was a bit much. Below are my thoughts.
-Mark Sanchez's first throw was everything he should have spent the offseason learning to avoid. He decided to throw the ball to LaDainian Tomlinson the second he left the huddle. He locked onto the back and didn't go through his progressions once the primary target was covered.
-The rest of the game, he was terrific. Let's be honest. He didn't face any really confusing fronts. He also had a few series against second stringers. Even so, he looked good. He made smart decisions with the football. He went through his progressions. He put the ball into places where either his receivers would catch it or the ball would be incomplete.
-Braylon Edwards' hands looked good. It's a start.
-It looks like Matt Slauson has the inside track at left guard. He played the entire first half with the starting unit. He was somewhat uneven. The holding penalty was bad. There were a few running plays where he got a good push. He wasn't really beaten badly, but there were other plays where he didn't get a push. He held up all right as a pass blocker. He didn't make much of an impact pulling.
-The defense looked good. The Giants scored 10 points. 7 were off the Sanchez interception. The other 3 were the result of a broken play.
-The pass rush was doing its job. We didn't have a chance to see much of Antonio Cromartie in coverage, but the new addition had his man blanketed pretty much all night. He was in good coverage on the one reception he allowed. I do have to say that Darrelle Revis probably wouldn't have allowed it to be a catch.
-Sione Pouha started at nose tackle. Kris Jenkins started at end. I have been expecting the jumbo front, and it did not disappoint. It's going to be quite a task for offensive linemen to take both on at the same time.
-The hidden factor in the Revis holdout? Kyle Wilson did not return the ball tonight. Maybe the Jets don't want to expend him while he is starting. Larry Taylor looked mediocre back there. He wasn't hitting his holes. He wasn't taking good paths to the ball and allowed a few to hit the ground he probably should not have.
-Tomlinson's stats didn't look pretty, but I liked what I saw. His offensive line didn't give him a chance on most of his runs. When he had room, he showed impressive explosion.
-It can't be a good sign for Laveranues Coles' roster hopes that Brad Smith was seeing the field over him when the Jets went to multi receiver looks in the first half.
-Nick Folk was decent. He made all 3 of his kicks from inside 40. He also registered a touchback and stuck all of his other kickoffs on the goal line aside from one he left on the 2. Keep in mind it was also a hot and humid night. Can we kill Folk for the 46 yard miss? It was not an easy kick but probably one he needs to make if he wants to make the team confident.
-With the loss of key special teams contributors Wallace Wright and Marques Murrell, it is good to see a guy like Eric Smith (blocked punt and tackle) step up.
-Let's not go overboard on Kellen Clemens' good stat line. A lot of guys would look good with Santonio Holmes running against backups.
-Dwight Lowery was in good coverage twice on Victor Cruz but didn't look for the ball, showing poor recognition. I thought ball skills were his strength.
-That guy who got toasted on Cruz's second touchdown? He played prominently in the team's plans to stop Peyton Manning in the second half of the AFC Championship Game. It's no surprise to see how that turned out.
-He still looked like the best of the backup candidates. Mark Brunell looks like his arm is so weak that he cannot fit it into all but the widest windows. Kevin O'Connell's interception was strikingly off the mark. His numbers are inflated by hitting a bunch of checkdowns when the Giants went prevent.
-Bad job by ESPN cutting out of the Ring of Honor ceremony right before the Weeb Ewbank video.
-For all of the talk about a new role for Vernon Gholston, it didn't seem like there was much of a change. He lined up a lot as a pass rusher on a 4 man line and a stand up rusher when the Jets had 3 men. I noticed a pair of pressures, but the backup Giants linemen also seemed to have no trouble cutting him down on other plays.
-Vladimir Ducasse looked lost when he got action in the second half.
-I don't think Joe McKnight read his blocks well.
-The Jets have joined Brett Favre, Tim Tebow, and the Wildcat among Jon Gruden's favorite things.
-By far the most important takeway is that the Jets avoided the injury bug.
This game meant nothing. The important Jets generally looked pretty good and did what they should have. This is another step closer to actual games.
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Agreed.
Holmes has me excited, regardless if he was abusing third stringers.
Gholston got some push, but otherwise not much showin.
Mcnight just looked…unsure..hesitant?
Mixed reaction like most preseason games
Happy about Sanchez (he was good when he wasn’t trying to force the ball to LT, a luxury one can afford in an exhibition game), Holmes, Edwards hands, and the Jenkins-Pouha power front.
Disappointed with McKnight as a pick so far, Gholston still being on the roster, and LC’s grim roster prospects. I really wanted Coles to have a breakout with the Jets but it looks like age has caught up to him.
I look forward to the season more than ever.
Now that Ghloston has his title as a backup rush lineman, he did fine
If you look at him as a top 6 pick it is a different story. But as a reserve lineman he is okay
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Guys, he already went and gave back a decent portion of his money back to the team. He knows he hasn’t preformed, but he was making a pretty good push tonight. I saw him on top of the qb and pressuring a couple of times.
They restructured his contract.
Tanny reworked it to fill it with incentives. If he plays well, he can get his money back.
Gruden loves everyone
Listen to him next week. He’ll definitely fawn over Jeff Fisher, Vince Young, Chris Johnson, and Ken Whisenhunt.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Could you be more negative?
The D looked great, besides the breakdown on the bradshaw play, that was really just a lot of missed tackles. Other then that, the pass rush was great, the corners did their job (i still feel we need revis toput us over the top..) and our safeties played very well. An the offense was really tight. Our worst enemy was ourselves, sanchez’s poor first through, missed field goal, and the penalties in the red zone. But keller had his name called, and braylon looked great. The run game would have been significantly stronger with mangold. Cotch looked great as always. All in all, i feel we took a lot a way from the game, but still have a lot to work on- joe mcknight, signing revis, sanchez to his left.
just saying everything is great doesn't do anything for me
I thought Slauson had a little better game then described but other then that its how it hapened.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
i agree
i just left BBV saying it was a bittersweet win in that your guys first team outplayed ours. reading this analysis would have one thinking the opposite.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Huh?
What exactly did I miss? What guy played well that I didn’t give his due? Did you even read the parts about Sanchez, Edwards, Tomlison, and the first team defense? Negative my foot.
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I think that what was missed was a certain kind of emphasis. This is not to say that anything you said was incorrect, rather the BIG theme of the first teamers was that the Jets defense COMPLETELY dominated the game for almost the whole frame, pretty much as they would do in games last year. When the turned the blitz on it was game-over, just as it needs to be. The defense came close to breaking the game open (Cromartie missed on a pick), and there was a general sense that it was in charge. It wasn’t a negative article I thought. Even handed and perhaps a little optimistic in parts.
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by kv on Aug 17, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowery and coleman getting exposed by a FA 3rd stringer is a problem if Revis stays put, because they will be the #3 and #4 CBs and we will be getting exposed in spread offenses with good QBs. Also Cro should have great INT numbers but I don’t see him locking down #1 WRs, and the difference between getting off the field on 3rd down consistently. I hope there is a real comp for the #2 QB job, Clemens deserves a shot.
Heh - you just beat me to the punch
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 16, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
First string played all right
Which I guess is really all that matters…although it was a little disconcerting to see Lowery and Coleman torched by the Giants backups.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
All right?
They played great, defense was basically perfect against Manning aside from the Bradshaw play which was a fluke escape. Offense looked much improved.
Defense was great
I thought the offense was good, but not great, but don’t take my post the wrong way – I was very pleased, given that it was the first pre-season game.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh...
Sanchez still scares the hell out of me. Who else saw that pick coming a mile away? One good thing about it is that it only happened once, and 3-5 times. But he still makes me skittish when he drops back. Seems like he reverted back to 09 playoff mode: smart, safe throws. But I can’t say I saw growth.
Eh...
it was a bad read, he certainly forced it, but it was a fluke interception. The recognition on the TD, was what impressed me.
Yeah the TD was nice, but he pick really bothered the hell out of me and basically ruined everything he did after that. Like JB said, it was the exact type of decision I hoped to never see again. I mean.. he didn’t even have a window to stick it in. He had his mind made up, stared him down and forced it. It was just such a bad headscratcher type throw. Where you have no idea what the hell he was looking at.
i wouldn't go bananas over that TD
really, that was bad all around for the Giants, from our MLB, to our sideline not recognizing the confusion on the field, ppl running on and off as Sanchez is lining up to snap, etc. that was more a Giants gift than a Sanchez good read. i’m confident had that been Bullock lined up in the middle, that would’ve been a blown timeout for the G-men, not a blown coverage as it stood.
other than that tho crackie, i do think Sanchez did look good, utilizing quick 3 step drop passes, to negate our pass rush.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
He did ok. I just didn’t see anything new really. I just can’t say yet for sure that he turned the corner.
what were you looking for that he didn't show you?
outside of the Rolle pick, he seemed to make the right reads, stand tall in the pocket, had a good completion percentage, and only took one sack. now you’re right, alot of that came against our 2nd stringers, and since this is preseason i’m pretty sure Coughlin and Fewell didn’t study tape or gameplan for this game, nor show anything outside of vanilla formations, but all that aside, he did well. now let’s see if he can build on it next week.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Really nothing negative...
except I saw a little of the bad luck we had last year. Jets first teams looked excellent against the Giants first teams, score should have been much worse in the first half. LT looked great, Holmes looked great, Cro looked great, Wilson did a nice job, Sanchez looked improved (int was a fluke play). Giants only real yardage came on a lucky play, otherwise they looked completely over matched. Would have like to see a win, but it was won in garbage time by garbage players.
Actually the two negatives were Mark Brunell looked awful, and would have liked to see them using someone besides Larry Taylor (a player that has no shot at the team) on KR/PR, I mean I understand you dont want to use Wilson, now because of Revis being out, and McKnight because it’s not a real game situation, but I would have like to see Allison, and Woodhead get a chance.
We already new Coleman sucked, and Lowrey had some good plays too.
BTW two players that really stood out to me were...
Ihedigbo, and Eric Smith, both were all over the field, and both were unstoppable when they blitzed.
judge, please stop saying that was a lucky play
it’s the reason why they do tip drills in camp and practice. sometimes the ball hits the ground incomplete, and sometimes it lands in the hands of hungry Dbacks. that’s why they teach QBs not to throw into double coverage.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Any game
where Sanchez throws an interception in 1Q of play and we still have Dwight Lowery and Drew Coleman trying to cover anyone, is a bad game in my book
Can we get a sign up sheet on this blog?
It would be great for all the people that criticize the team and call some players garbage to have a sign up sheet so we can go back to it whenever people start flip flopping.
Word.
by Jerricho ToonWalker on Aug 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Why is Coleman being torched by third stringers bothering anyone, he’s nothing more than a third stringer himself, who shouldn’t be on the team either way.
actually
if revis holds out for any games, we will have either a rookie, coleman, or lowery starting oppposite Cro
as i read what i wrote...
i just threw up in my mouth a little, you know that little throw up that you just swallow real quick, one of those
What?
Um Wilson looked great tonight, Lowery I get he had some good plays as well though, but no chance Coleman would come close to starting he’s boarderline making the team right now.
He was featured prominently in last year's AFC title game
Granted, that was because of injuries…but it’s probably why so many people are leery of him seeing playing time.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
As a dime back...
only reason you saw him so much was because Indy was using 4 WR sets so much, he certainly not a starter or anywhere close.
Of course
But when the Jets play teams that use four receiver sets, he will get playing time. No kidding that he’s not a starter – he barely has any business being on the roster!
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha
I just hope others understand that it’s VERY sarcastic.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No worries
Although either way, it sure would be nice to have Revis and Cro lined up at the same time. Hopefully he gets signed soon!
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Then the secondary goes from decent to damn near impenetrable. Everyone slides into their appropriate spot in the rotation.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
i like wilson too, but starting CB? he is a rookie and we have super bowl asperations
not a good combination, and lowery has been a big disapointment for me, coleman is next in line i think, who would be ahead of him?
Miami
was 7-9 and gave up the 3rd most points in the AFC last year, pretty well?
Yes they actually played pretty well look at their individual stats, Miami has problems in a ton of other spots.
the miami guys gave up 6 tds apiece and had a QB rating against of 104 and 112 compared to Revis 29 and Cro 75 and 2 TDs apiece. They showed promise but they got toasted alot and QBs completed passes in front of them.their hype and potential is better than there stats. (My only fan post was on the in comparison to Rev and Cro, and the Begals CBs.)
by george JETson on Aug 17, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
by kotite4ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta say i loved it when they lit up Eli.
Glad he didn’t get injured, but it was nice to watch the blood gush out of his fckin head.
Just got back from the stadium
All i have to say is the new home is incredible.
Left a little after halftime because i needed to drive someone home but from what i saw of the first half we look to be on the right track with the first string. The offense looked to be running very smoothly, granted the hick-ups with the penalties and the pick, the defense was confusing the crap out of the Giants offense the whole game, and the special teams didn’t suck. The return game should be improved by putting Smith back to return kickoffs i think he is much better than Taylor and the depth at WR is so deep even if he went down it wouldn’t really impact the team. I think Gholston as a serviceable backup DE is a huge upgrade from last year where he didn’t squat btw/
Mixed reviews about the stadium...
View lines were much better, awful beer offerings in my section (Bud, Bud Light, and Land Shark, wtf). Stadium is beautiful, but did not light up the way it looked in pictures, miss the spirals, bathrooms had lines, its not finished in parts. PA system was out for a quarter and a half.
bathrooms had lines
dude….Bathrooms have lines in EVERY Stadium. Plus there’s over 80 freakin’ THOUSAND people in that stadium. You really believe you’re the only one who wanted to go to the Restroom at the time you went????
In the words of the MNF countdown crew : C’MON, MAN…
Screw that brock...
I’ve go to Yankee Stadium all the time, and the old Meadowlands, and never had to wait as long, and it wasn’t even half time (it was a bit after). Also did a bad job with the doors no direction for exit/entrance so people were going in/out either side with only one normal sized door opening, it was just a big mess IMHO. The bathrooms that is.
Now just re-sign Revis and we are good to go baby!
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 17, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
FYI Giants= SF Giants
I hate those blue guys
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 17, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you guys hear what Brandon Jacobs said:...lol
“We just beat the Jets its a hard knock life man. To solidify who this stadium realy belongs to”.
I thought with the first teams, the Jets won the battle. This is funny though a pre season game decides who owns the stadium..LOL
Since the face been revealed the game got real
fine they can have the stadium
we’ll take our super bowl rings over them for the next couple of years
I hate the Dodgers, Patriots, Dolphins, and terroirsts
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Aug 17, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter either way...
At the end of the day, whichever team is doing better will “have” the stadium. If the Jets make the playoffs and the Giants don’t, no one will say, “Yeah, but the Giants won the first preseason game!”
Likewise, if the Jets don’t make it… no one will mention this game.
That's what makes having the name "MEADOWLANDS" Stadium so great for Jets fans
and so horrid for Gints fans.
It’s now TRULY EQUAL-Parts Home for Both Teams.
But in essence, the GINTS lost their Home…..LMAO!!
I dunno how...
A preseason game can really have anything to do with “bragging rights.” Look at how the Colts got blasted by the 49ers. Anyone think the game would have looked that way in the regular season? The preseason is completely meaningless as far as wins and losses are concerned.
We were winning when the starting QBs left the game even with Sanchez bonehead opening pass.
I just pray we don’t go to a backup QB. Although, Clemmens EASILY looked the best of our backups but he always disappoints in the regular season. Brunell looked dreadful. And… and… pray our secondary stays healthy too. The backups looked like the belonged in Pee Wee football.
Folk was pretty good. I feel a bit better about him having seen that game.
Let me add that the holding call that killed LT’s TD was complete and utter crap.
with a 2nd strike against him now? I get the feeling he’s not coming back and the Jets are being good and keeping him around to help him recover.
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Well I just hope he comes back.
I think he’s a major upgrade over all three of the clowns we have. Besides, it ain’t baseball, but it is 3 strikes and you’re out. Just sayin’.
Jon Gruden...
“The Jets have joined Brett Favre, Tim Tebow, and the Wildcat among Jon Gruden’s favorite things.”
I swear… I would pay $100.00 a month to be able to watch NFL games without any commentators. I think that’s the best part of seeing a live game.
Do we really need a bunch of jackasses to talk about things I don’t care about, feed the hype machine and point out the painfully obvious? I mean, I get announcers when the game is on the RADIO. That makes sense. On TV though?
Every time I hear something like, “Well, in that situation you’ve gotta make a play…” I just want to beat something with a club. Or there’s an interception and I have to hear, “You just can’t make mistakes like that.”
Thanks guys. What would I do without you?
I think he is entertaining so I enjoy watching him on TV
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Though, now that I think about it...
I’d rather Jon Gruden on NFL Network over Jason La Confused any day of the week that ends in Y.
Gruden is a blessing!
Would you rather have Dennis Miller or that other annoying guy whose name right now escapes me, thankfully (Also, I don’t watch PTI.)
Consider the options. That’s the best crew they’ve had in years.
and the home of the... JETS!!!
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Yeah I would.
I just wish he got names right. Sheesh. And like I said, can we please get him as our new Adam Schefter? I cannot STAND Jason La Confused. Every time I see his face or hear his sorry ass reports I get the urge to break something.
If he doesn't, do you remember what Rex said in his Press Conference about him?
He basically said he hoped the Gints would cut him ’cause he sure knows ONE TEAM who would sign him pronto…
So by all Mean, Gints….Cut him.
Bad job by ESPN cutting out of the Ring of Honor ceremony right before the Weeb Ewbank video.
heh, they needed more time to cover Tim Tebow. I was watching ESPN and I couldn’t believe they had a good 4 minutes of highlights of him and then 2 minutes worth of an interview. Does anyone remember a 3rd Stringer playing pointless minutes getting that much time?
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