Giants Firing Shots Across The Hudson
by David_Wyatt on Aug 13, 2010 5:11 PM EDT
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PrintI think everyone is ready for a little football now, and why not share a few choice words by some of our friends who player for the "other" New York team, the New York Giants. ESPN's Jane McManus gets the opinions of linebacker Keith Bulluck and rookie wide receiver Victor Cruz
"It's always been Giants Stadium, the Jets were always second fiddle to the Giants," Bulluck said. "Some of my friends were Jets fans but they were never happy coming into school Monday morning after the Jets had taken some of those beatings. I'm a Mets fan and I understand the Yankees are New York's baseball team, just like Jets fans should understand the Giants are New York's football team."
It doesn't really matter who's town it is, and until the Jets win something, I don't think it's unfair to say that the Giants are still top dogs.
However some things have changed. We now are equal partners in a stadium share. We no longer have to play under the blue banner of a Giants stadium. Media attention has significantly shifted to the Jets, HBO Hard Knocks, MNF to open the season and a thanksgiving prime time. Print column popularity also "probably" favours the Jets (I'm not about to try and count that up). We do need to win and most would accept that, however the Jets will never be as far behind to the Giants as the Mets are to the Yankees.
"Definitely it's always a rivalry," Cruz said. "You always want to beat them, you actually always want to beat the crap out of them. But it's OK because they use our field and they use our stadium but we always want to come out the victor in that game."
I think someone needs to provide Cruz with a few facts about the new Medowlands. I know he is a rookie and all, but I'm not sure he is aware that the two teams will be moving into a new stadium on Monday. We did use your stadium and we did use your field, and I'll add we did close your stadium out with a bang instead of a whimper.
Now we use our stadium, we use our field and we will hoist our banner inside our home.
Monday can't come soon enough.
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I don’t think the Yankees/Mets, Giants/Jets comparison is ever entirely accurate. Yes the Giants are #1, but its by a much smaller difference, also the Giants are not near as storied and as winning a franchise as the Yankees. And while the Jets have had their fair share of disappointments, its nothing compared to the Mets.
Mets fans have to deal with the fact that the Yanks are kings of Baseball, and arguably all sports. Giants have just been the better team in NY, and do not get the national recognition the way the Yanks do. If it was the Cowboys and the Jets in the same town that would maybe make it a little better comparison.
Agree with you 100%, I’ve never really liked that expression….and it’s not just because I’m a Jets fan either, just didn’t think it made sense if you actually thought about it.
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The Stadium Name. . .
What’s up with the name of the stadium? I thought it was going to be called the Meadowlands and not Giants Stadium. But I constantly hear people refer to it as Giants Stadium. Is that the official name?
As far as the players talking thrash, well Rex has put a bullseye on the Jets now. So let’s hope they can back up all the talk this season.
I thinks its refereed to as Jets stadium when the Jets are home, and Giants stadium when they are home, but I think the official naming rights are still up in the air.
Absolutely, we’re still looking for an official sponsor, two enquiries have not turned anything up. The Allianz one which was thrown out because of holocaust involvement and the offensive nature it would cause to the jewish fan base. Ashley Madison which was a pure PR stunt by them to get hits, and it probably worked.
Jets stadium/Giants stadium or New Meadowlands are all names I’ve heard.
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Really though, it’s only been what, 70 years? Good God. As if that company had anything to do with the holocaust anyway. The freakin’ league was rescheduling games because they fell on jewish holidays a year or two ago and they were pissing and moaning about that. Allianz was the only legitimate sponsor the Jets & Giants had, and they should’ve jumped on the offer. Maybe some of our core veterans like Mangold and Harris would have the new contracts they deserve.
by nationalist88 on Aug 13, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I try to avoid topics like that on here, but Allianz seemed to put a good offer on the table. I don’t know the significance of their involvement. I have been to the Alianz arena in Munich, and it’s a fantastic stadium with the same exterior light panels as the New Meadowlands.
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Still cant believe JetBlue hasn't gone for it, what a perfect match...
I could just see the Jets flight crew grabbing two beers and going down an emergency slide at the end of a loss.
That’s cool; big difference between Germany and the States? I hear it’s pretty crazy over there. My friend visited because he was dating a German chick and he said it’s a non-stop party.
Sounds like a smart policy. I spend a lot of time in a couple chatrooms with other market traders, and they try to stop political discussions. You see people become friends over time, and all of a sudden it comes out that one’s a lib and the other conservative, or something along those lines, and bam! They instantly hate each other.
by nationalist88 on Aug 14, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I was there during the last two games of the World Cup
Munich went ballistic when they won 3rd place. I mean, 3rd place and they had to close off streets.
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The offical term is “New Meadowlands Stadium”
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by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 13, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, the only time all offseason I saw a Giants headline overtake a Jets one, it read “Eli quietly exercising leadership” or something like that.
That’s right – the big Giants news was about how subtle they are.
http://www.jetskvetch.com
Come join me as I fanatically follow the goys in green!
That’s because Eli has about as much personality as a wet sponge and far less substance. He does have a ring though.
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Don’t be ridiculous. I’ve seen plenty of wet sponges that were more engaging than Eli Manning : )
by nationalist88 on Aug 14, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t wait, going to the game. First game since 07 lol
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Hey are you paying a lot for the seats? I don’t have season tickets but we always get a small group for at least one home game a year. Not sure how that will work this season with the PSL thing…
by nationalist88 on Aug 13, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
My friends has season tix and he has an extra. I’m some poor college kid I ain’t getting any PSLs any time soon haha
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by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 14, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
really cause all i hear is every one on espn sny etc. call it Jets stadium my gf dad was one of the worker that built it and he said its almost all green (he is a giants fan and it pissed him off lol) and i mean on paper we are better
I think the colour scheme is neutral on things that can’t be switched. However it will all be done up in Green or Blue depending on who is playing on any given day. I think Jets fans will call it “Jets Stadium”, Giant fans “Giants Stadium” etc….until we get a sponsor for it.
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i think jetblue should be the sponsor someone on here mentioned it and it sounds great i dont know bout ya.
Totally, that would be perfect! They should give those guys a discount.
by nationalist88 on Aug 13, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be perfect. Not sure if they have the necessary finances to pull a deal like that off even at a discount. I remember a few years ago they were really struggling and their profits were plummeting thanks to a problem with one of their designed aircrafts. Not sure how it;s going lately.
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Or
Green Giant
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um.. I'm the last person to question who an pro athlete is, but
who the hell is Victor Cruz. I’m sorry but Bulluck being from NY and an proven veteran has earned the right to talk smack. Seriously, who the hell is Victor Cruz. I don’t follow the Giants and watch very little college football. Could someone tell me is this guy any good?
UMASS product, apparently he is playing pretty well in TC and turning some heads, but will wait until he goes live in pre-season. Undrafted free agent I believe, decent career at UMASS, 4th overall in total catches.
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Cruz shouldn’t be talking. He’s a maybe for making the final roster. He really shouldn’t be running his mouth
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Yeah if you think about it
only players who are good should talk smack. Could you imagine if he got cut after he was running his mouth he would be a jackass
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Now you know who Cruz is....3 TDs later lol
"Lets go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs" -L.T.
by bleedblue12 on Aug 17, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, that helps a lot. So,
who the hell he think he is claiming a stadium when he has not even made the team. What happens if the Giants let him go and the Jets pick him up (highly unlikely), I really hate guys who talk because they have a tongue and two lips. I will be watching Mr. Cruz on Monday.
I read the reports on him and the general feeling from them was that he was fighting for the 6th-7th receiver type special teams role. Good chance he could land on the practise squad, so not sure why he’s even talking….should probably be working.
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He did pretty well lmaooooo
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by bleedblue12 on Aug 17, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s funny. On the Giants show I did last night the hosts (both great people) seemed to think the Jets cared a lot more about this game and rivalry than the Giants did. I didn’t really see it from our side. Kinda funny to see a Giant starting stuff.
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They’re probably saying that because we usually beat them in the preseason grudge match.
by nationalist88 on Aug 13, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I’ve never really considered this a big rivalry to be honest, maybe if I lived in NY it would be different, but the opponents are not really important in pre-season. Just want to evaluate some of the fringe players. Can’t remember any Jets players coming out and talking about this game in particular….could be wrong though.
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It's funny, when the Jets talk, they mostly talk about their selves
However, other teams don’t like how the Jets be pushing their chest out, which results in the other teams talking about the Jets.
Remember that one year when we scrimmaged the Giants before preseason? Donnie Henderson was our DC, and our defense was blowing guys up like it was the playoffs. The Giants got pissed off and were complaining we were playing too hard. I think Herm was coach then… It was pretty funny; made the G-men come off like whiners.
by nationalist88 on Aug 14, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
That WR isn't wrong I am sorry,
Mets and Jets will be second fiddle to the Yanks and Giants untill the Jets start winning. But who cares they have their fans and we have ours.
Giants fans get very insecure when people talk about the Jets more then the Giants. Lets just worry about what happens on the field.
I do find it funny that the LB who has been a Giant for 2 weeks is talking smack.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
He's from the NY area, and he's always been a talker, so I have no problem with him
However, Mr. Cruz words are
“Definitely it’s always a rivalry,” Cruz said. “You always want to beat them, you actually always want to beat the crap out of them. But it’s OK because they use our field and they use our stadium but we always want to come out the victor in that game.” Um.. this is not your house, you never played a professional game there.
There is also no guarantee that he will play a competitive professional regular season game in the new stadium either. It’s big talk coming from an undrafted wide receiver out of UMASS.
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O I mixed the quotes up then I agree with
Bull about the 2nd fiddle thing about that part.
There will be a lot of people intentional or not that will still call it Giants stadium.
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Thats a good piont thought if the Jets have more success this city would be easy to win over but the same is not true for baseball
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I still don’t think it’s an accurate comparison. The Mets to the Yankees is exaggerated because of the Yankees general status in baseball and in the worlds sports market like judgegavel says. The Giants don’t have that over the Jets. Sorry to say for Mets fans I think NY is always going to be a Yankee town, that doesn’t mean the Mets can’t shine. However the Giants have a very weak hold as NY’s football team….we do need to win your right about that. If the Jets win the Superbowl this year, NY is closer to being a Jet town. If the Mets win the World Series…..it’s still firmly a Yankee town IMO.
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the second part of my comment above was in response to this post
Since the face been revealed the game got real
If the Jets win the next 10 Super Bowls...
itll still be a Giants town…hate to rain on your parade.
"Lets go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs" -L.T.
by bleedblue12 on Aug 17, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
tha name
so let it be ‘Meadowlands’. Better than those rediculous company names they come up with. and the team that puts their mark on the NFL will have the upper hand when the stadium is mentioned
I don’t think too many people will have a problem with that, when I say people I mean fans. Sponsorship revenue is always welcome to the owners, so I would expect it to get a company name at some point.
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true but
wouldn’t it be a classy move to fund it without slamming your name all over it. I would be more inclined to buy a product from a sponsor like that
The rivalry might mean more if they actually won a trophy or something. I believe the Chiefs and Rams play for a trophy every year.
and the home of the... JETS!!!
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“It’s a preseason game, they’re talking mess and saying it’s our town. OK, well, we’re going to play Monday so back it up.”
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I believe they did to the tune of....
31-16
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by bleedblue12 on Aug 17, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
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