Rex Ryan's Own Solution to the Revis Mess
by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 11, 2010 12:55 PM EDT
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PrintHonestly, I have no idea what Woody Johnson is trying to do. By going on ESPN and all kinds of radio shows and speaking of the nastiness of the current situation, he is only increasing the distance between Revis and the Jets. When they start bickering about "he said she said" with Revis' reps, it only makes things worse.
Enter Rex Ryan, clear of mind, with a brilliant idea. Instead of shady meeting at diners in Roscoe, with just the GM present, why not have Darrelle come up and sign while the team is staring him in the face? "I bet it gets done that way," Ryan says. He wants the whole organization at the table.
Neil Schwartz's response? "If the Jets want to set up a meeting, they have our number."
So, why not? This deal makes too much sense for both sides not to get done. In all honesty, no one is right here. There is no "siding with Revis or the Jets". Bottom line is, Revis is asking for a lot, and the Jets are not offering any kind of decent amount of guaranteed money. Both sides have fault. But the Jets have to realize that they will have to pay a lot of money, and pay it up front.
Woody continuously says that he is committed to winning a championship. Well, Woody, it's time to back up your words. It's time to stop ripping off fans, and it's time for the Jets to make a sacrifice for the fans sake, for once. We have waited too long for an opportunity like this, and by letting this drag on into the season, you are spitting in the face of the loyal fanbase that has supported this team (which has generated a generous amount of revenue for yourself, I'm sure.) We have a nice and pretty stadium, but no Darrelle Revis. Ask your average fan what they would rather have: A fancy new palace that only rich snobs with business connections can afford to go to, complete with non-flushing urinals, or to finally taste the top of the mountain and win the Bowl?
Woody isn't going to win the PR war by going on ESPN and talking about how mean Mr. Schwartz is. Woody is going to win the ultimate PR "war" by stepping up and paying it's stars. The Jets often compare Revis to Jeter; but there is one difference: The Yankees, 100% comitted to winning, stepped up and paid their guy. They have been rewarded with championships. The Jets, 100% comitted to making money, have not won anything.
Now, is Revis asking for a lot? Yeah. He has three years left. But make no mistake, while players, who have worked their entire lives for their big contract, can be cut at any time. If the Jets don't have to honor a contract, why should some owner who inherited a multi-billion dollar company and has hardly worked a day in his life demand the Revis honor his?
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LOVE THIS MOVE.
What a coach.
Just a high school student who lives his ambitions of working for the NFL,
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Honestly Woodly looked horrible on ESPN
He looked like a rich old guy in tennis whites who was playing a kid with his baseball cap on while attending the US Open. He talked like a spoiled kid, dismissing even Mr. T’s “verbal” offer to renegotiate the deal as “there is a reason we write things down on paper”. Petulant and brattish, whoever told the boss “Hey, that’s a great idea, go on ESPN and make your position known” was a sycophant. Hey, he is an alright owner, but wise up. The team is not your toy Hess truck to drive around the sandbox. It sounds like it has gotten personal with Revis’s agent and Woody.
Please Rex, fix this!
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Wow KV here too??!
I hear you man. But in the end its player and owner. Much like a few years ago Bernie Williams was a free agent and thngs weren’t going anywhere and Bernie actually called steinbrenner and said hey let’s get this done. I don’t wanna go anywhere lets just be fair. And Fair doesn’t mean TOP dollar. It means FAIR.
If I had to Pick a Jeter for the Jets I would say its Mangold before it’s Revis. Pay Mangold. Pay Harris too. While we are at it lock up Holmes and Edwards as well. And Let’s see if Cromartie demands 16 mil too. A few years ago Cro had 10 picks and was an ALL-Pro, not just pro bowler but ALL-Pro. I think that Cro is bigger faster and stronger than Revis. Let’s see how Cro does in the CB friendly syste the Jets run. Haden gets 10 mil per but many listen Kyle Wilson as the #2 corner in the draft behind him. So Let’s see how they do. Rex has been putting Top 5 defenses on the field his entire career I don’t think Revis will change that. With Jenkins back, More pass rushing with Taylor and Calvin Pace for a full season a very good david harris and those safeties. Let MEvis SIT for 2 years!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
I guess we agree to some degree. But when you own the team you have to realize that the agent cannot drive the process. Which is to say, yes you don’t let the agent dictate terms, but you also don’t let the agent force you into being reactive and making all kinds of stupid gestures which hurt the team.
And I do agree that the team could slightly recover from Revis and could be better than last year, or at least a comparable team, but this defense (assuming skills at Cro and Wilson) has a chance to be an all time, talked about for generations Defense. A chance to be listed in the debate when the Bears and Ravens teams get brought up. It is just plain stupid to not make it a priority to take that chance as a franchise, to enter the lore of the NFL, especially as a team like the Jets.
This doesn’t mean cave in to every demand. It means give the guy some guaranteed money (which apparently the Jets are being very stingy on), and get Woody out of the negotiations.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 11, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ridiculous and one sided
nonsense post. You hate Woody because he inherited his fortune. Great. Comparing NFL contracts with Yankee contracts makes no sense whatsoever- this requires no explanation.
Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of Woody Johnson as of late, if you can’t tell. I don’t hate him because he inherited his fortune, I dont like him because he’s playing a big PR war. I’m not comparing contracts, I’m comparing two teams that have had to address the contract situations of cornerstone players. The Jets have made this comparison themselves.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the Jeter comparison is relevant. Jeter gets paid a premium for being the face of the franchise. He’s actually overpaid for his actual on-field production. Revis is only asking to be paid what he’s worth.
Revis is not the face of the Franchise
Sanchize is….duhhhh…lol.
The Jets are not the yankees. Horrible comparison. And Jeter got his big contract and will get another after a few rings. Revis No rings…
The JETS/NETS are coming!
i agree
This post was more of something i think i would find in the Fanpost section. It started out straight forward and fair but then took a side. idk, i guess unless i see something in the title that tells me otherwise, i usually expect these posts to be more about reporting and the opinions to come in the comment section. or maybe it was too anti jets/woody.
This is a blog. The writers on this site voice their own opinions, as well as deliver news. it is what makes these sites unique from a newspaper. John posted an article where he argued for Revis to be paid. I just stated me opinion is a little more, uh, direct way.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 11, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea but Johns headline told me it was an opinion and i knew where he was going with it. With this articles headline and David leaving it out of his post, i thought i was just gonna read a report on what rex said at his press conference not an attack on woody. i guess im nitpicking or busting your balls. not intentionally.
and the Jets are not offering any kind of decent amount of guaranteed money
Um, I don’t think thats the case at all, it was reported today that he Jets said they are fairly flexible about the guarantee and bonuses, they just don’t want to discuss it till they agree on an over all value.
Thats just childishly insane. I can’t believe you let them pull that on you. It’s ALL about per year salary and guaranteed money. A 10 yr term is ridiculously unrealistic and the 12M per is a lowball offer. They want you to focus on the 120M offer, and get outraged for his refusal of that obscene amount of money.
To not even discuss guaranteed money is totally immature and unprofessional.
Thats just BS crack
12 million per is the Jets pre-compromised (opening) offer, which I think is insanely high. Personally didn’t really want him getting much more than that, thought the Jets would open at 10 million per.
But my point is Schwartz is either stupid, or thinks everyone else is by saying the Jets have not offered anything guaranteed, when the only reason is they won’t until a number is agreed upon, and that makes sense. Therefore the real sticking point is the $16 + million that Schwarts (or revis) thinks he’s entitled too, which is ludicrous.
Um both sides have been talking 10 year so that point is moot...
I bet if Schwartz goes ok lets start at 10 year 120 like you (Jets) want (as opposed to the 10 year 160 he is insisting on), they could get a better feel for what the deal actually is. Hell the Jets seem very reasonable they may even be willing to go 16 mil for a few years (say 2 through 5) when they can (not sure he can get that big of raise this year unless its a bonus. But Scharwtz sounds like a moron who wants the 10 year 160 simply to say Revis is the higest paid, even though he will never get the money at the end.
Havent seen anywhere that Revis demanded 10 yrs. He demanded 16M per. Meyers decided that the term was agreed upon as 10 yrs and extrapolated the 16M per over that length to suit his “$40M Apart” headline.
Seems to me that Revis saying he won’t accept a deal that pays less than 16M per. He has made no comment on the term. All he’s said so far is that he wants 16M per and guaranteed money.
The Jets conjured up the 10 yr term to make their total offer seem extreme. There trying to make it seem like Revis wants 160M. But Revis has never said a word about 160M.
Thank you Rex
At least someone has some common sense. Rex throws an olive branch out to Revis and his agent Says, they have my number, instead of lets do it. I’m starting to think his agent might not want a deal and push for a trade, like he did with Pete Kendel .
I have a feeling Revis is being used by his agent to get more notoriety for himself and his firm. Lets face it, Revis is the biggest their biggest active NFL client. Besides Vincent Jackson and Roddy White, it’s a bunch of journey man at best
by Jeffrey Karlovitch on Aug 11, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
For those following the score: Rex-1, Jets Brass and Revis-0, US Jets Fans-00
The Yankees, 100% comitted to winning, stepped up and paid their guy
Dude, Yankees have no cap to deal with either. I know this year is uncapped but deals this year will find their way into the cap next year somehow. Also remember the bad years of mortgaging the future for one year. You can’t break the bank and lose everyone else to cap hits beyond this year.
Word.
by Jerricho ToonWalker on Aug 11, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
That didn’t stop guys like Patrick Willis and Elvis Dumervil getting huge money up front, where it doesn’t impact the cap.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 11, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You know why
because the Broncos suck, and the 9ers aren’t much better, they have no one else they have to pay.
How does signing Revis = losing everybody else? I wish somebody could break that down. The way i see it, your not resigning all those guys for 4M per.
Try this article and site
Revis Cap Article: http://bit.ly/bgAIqt
Unofficial Jets Cap Site: http://bit.ly/bMGQaj
Understanding NFL salaries should get you an automatic position in NASA.
Word.
by Jerricho ToonWalker on Aug 11, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Big difference between Jeter and Revis...
…is that the Jets have to abide by a salary cap, while the Yankees are able throw money wherever they want.
cap
No offense Ryan, but I’m tired of this meme that Revis’ salary comes from Woody’s pocketbook and we’re not paying him because Woody is greedy. Unless I am fundamentally misunderstanding how the cap works, the reason this is such a difficult negotiation is because if we pay Revis insane amounts we won’t be able to afford other key players and the team will implode. I highly doubt this has anything to do with Woody thinking that if we pay Revis less then he gets to keep the extra money.
It's all show biz
Hey Guys, did you really expect a contract with Revis so soon? Episode 1 of “Hard Knocks” hasn’t even aired yet and they need at least one contract dispute per season to spice things up. It’s like what Mrs. Werblin told Broadway Joe back in the day, “Joseph, it’s show business.”
If nothing is done by episode 4, then worry.
I've had enough
Of these friggin’ agents man. These are the guys that also represent another MAJOR hold-out, Vincent Jackson. FIRE THESE ASSHOLES REVIS! PLEASE! FOR THE FANS, AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!
don't forget
they also were responsible for the Roddy White hold out. That wasn’t too pretty either.
These guys a real piece of work. This is why (though I don’t particularly advocate his methods) I prefer, hands down, Drew Rosenhaus. At least when TJ was upset with his contract and he vocalized it, he still showed up to camp and played his ass off.
Agreed, Drew Rosenhaus at least understands the PR game
Schwartz is costing his client so much PR with the way he is handling this whole thing
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by blueandorange4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, I’m sick and tired of these guys. They’re causing problems not only for our players, but for Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill. I really wish he’d just fire them already.
I don’t like him either but the difference is, Rosenhaus has a way of making his players seem worth more than they actually are, while these guys make their players not worth the hassle.
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