The Big Questions on Revis' Holdout
by John B on Aug 1, 2010 6:40 PM EDT
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PrintThere are several key questions regarding Darrelle Revis' holdout. Only people within the inner circles of Revis and the Jets can answer most of these for sure, but we can piece together some answers from what we know.
How long will this holdout be?
Although Revis' agent, Neil Schwartz informed the media in very glib fashion they should ask the Jets how long it will last, he is facing a $16,000 per day fine. He also would delay his own unrestricted free agency if he does not report in the next 10 days. Doing that would take leverage away. When players hold out, it is intended to have the opposite effect. There are cases where players dig in and force a trade like Deion Branch with the Patriots in 2006, but those are the exception. I can't imagine the Jets would move a piece as integral as Revis.
How will this affect Revis' play?
It really does not appear to be something to worry about on the surface. Playing in the NFL is a 365 day a year job now. A lot of these players can step on the field and be ready to play without camp. Remember that Revis held out his rookie year. It didn't really hurt him even adjusting to the speed of the NFL. He stepped in and played well right off the bat. Does anybody remember Michael Strahan's holdout the year the Giants won the Super Bowl?
How will this go over in the locker room?
If Kris Jenkins' comments mean anything, the players won't hold it against Revis. I'm sure there may be some isolated grumbling from players doing drills on hot days in Cortland, but the players understand this is a business. They will probably have empathy with Darrelle as they realize they could one day be in the same position.
How will the Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum extensions impact the process?
While Rex's extension after one year was a puzzling move, I'm not sure it is the big deal people make it out to be. The team can focus on more than one thing at a time. The world cannot stop for one contract to be the only priority.
What will this accomplish?
I'm honestly not sure what the end game is here for the Revis camp. He doesn't seem to have any leverage. It seems like this is just sending the Jets a message that Darrelle is very unhappy. It's only going to make the fans less sympathetic, though.
Who is to blame?
It would be easy to pin this on the agent, Neil Schwartz, who helped instigate the Pete Kendall fiasco. At the end of the day, though, the buck stops with Darrelle Revis. Schwartz works for him. He provides Revis with advice. It's up to Revis whether to accept it as in his best interest or disregard it as not.
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i hate that this happens the same day wes welker reports to camp for NE
has there been any rejected extension offers?
that 3 yr/$45 million deal doesn’t seem likely
This same discussion is occuring over at thePhinsider.
I’m inclined to believe a few things.
1) The idea of losing an accrued year towards Free Agency isn’t really a big deal for Revis. For the casual player, yes. But Revis is a player of Elite talent, he’s a player like Manning, Brady, Chris Johnson etc…. He’s a player that will never ever see the light of day of Free Agency until his skills have diminished and his career is almost over (see your very own LT)
Revis knows that he’ll get a new deal. Revis knows he’ll get a new contract within the years that he has left on his deal, no matter if he holds out or not. Revis is aware of this, his agent is aware of this, and no doubt the Jets front office is aware of this. So losing that year credit toward Free Agency means absolutely nothing to Revis. It will just never happen
There is no leverage swing there.
Although I agree completely, when I say that Revis has no leverage…. although, as I type this, I wonder if his leverage includes how the other players wanting a new contract are watching this situation.
He’ll get paid, it’ll be for less than Nnamdi, and he’ll be in camp by the end of next week. If he holds out, no matter what, he’ll be on the team by the first week of the season.
And honestly, if he holds out longer than that….your defense is stocked well enough to survive… you’ve got enough depth, that it won’t cause but a little ripple.
And I’m speaking as a hated Rival.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
And honestly, if he holds out longer than that….your defense is stocked well enough to survive… you’ve got enough depth, that it won’t cause but a little ripple.
I think the defense will survive, but it would be a major hit. No matter how good Cromartie and Wilson may be (and we can’t be sure on either right now), they are not Revis.
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True, (and I'm not a Cromartie believer)
But I still think your depth will keep your defense within the top 3-5 in the league even without Revis. You’ve upgraded your pass rush, and as such will help the DBs.
If Revis weren’t to play, you aren’t all of a sudden going to become a mediocre defense, I guess thats what I’m trying to say.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
I don't know if I agree, and thats a hell of a risky propisition.
I don’t think that the team can trust either Cro or Wilson to lock onto an opponents top receiver. That changes how the defense plays entirely.
Revis means the Jets can take out a #1 and roll coverage opposite and shut down most passing attacks. Having him also means we automatically have an extra man to blitz on most occassions.
Without him means you most likely have to roll coverage to the #1 and im not comfortable leaving either Cro or Wilson on the other side without help, even if its on a secondary receiver. This means we have less bodies to blitz with.
The Jets D is heavily predicated on showing blitz. If we have to keep 2 safeties deep, thats less bodies we can creep up to the line of scrimmage pre-snap.
I can understand that assessment.
But in the end, I don’t think it drops your defense out of the top 5-7.
I think instead you end up with 1 deep safety, and the other safety playing up close to the line, showing blitz from different positions.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Most teams we beat up on we did so bc we rattled their QBs. Our sack numbers were putrid. We got there far less than they believed we would. We rely on the psychological effect of threatening you with more guys than you can block. If we can’t do that, we’re much more vulnerable.
There’s also a lot to be said about the psychological effect of having to either throw at Revis or at double-coverage for your next best option.
QBs will be much more comfortable without Revis on the field.
Yes, I think back to the Colts game in the regular season. Manning seemed to have some windows to throw in but missed some passes because he didn’t want to put it anywhere near Revis.
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I thing our lack of sack numbers were more because QB’s saw single coverage and got the ball out. Unlike the traditional, four-man-rush sack, where there is noone to throw the ball to because there are simply more guys in coverage. Unfortunately for said QB’s, the man in single coverage was usually Revis.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Aug 1, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyway, good debate.
I think it’ll get worked out (unfortunately for my team, but good for yours)
I’m sure I’ll be seeing you guys in another thread :)
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Strahan wasnt holding out.......
he was thinking about hanging them up. I understand the point you were trying to make but I figured I’d throw that in there.
Why doesn't Peyton Manning holdout?
He’s getting paid less than Carson Palmer!
Every elite player can threaten their team with a holdout. Most don’t do it because they have class and their original contracts were fair. Revis got a fat rookie contract when he originally signed and, after this year, he’ll be earning 10m/year for 2 years before free agency. Plus, the Jets offered Revis 2 options: a band aid fix for this year’s salary, or a long term deal. Revis turned down both. As a fan, I’m very disappointed in Revis. The comments from his agent and manager have only made matters worse.
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