Coles' Role: More Mentor Than Anything?
by John B on Jul 29, 2010 10:43 PM EDT
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As Matt told us earlier today, Laveranues Coles appears primed for a third tour of duty with the Jets. Two years ago he entered camp as the number one receiver on the roster. After some key additions and a pair of down years, LC will sit fourth on the roster.
While he seems to be in decline, Coles does seem to be a better option in the slot the first four weeks of the year than Brad Smith, David Clowney, or Aundrae Allison. His production is still passable for a third option.
After that point things become less clear, though. It's tough to see where he really fits on the roster. He's not much of a special teams player. He won't see much time in conventional sets with Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, or Jerricho Cotchery on the roster. I don't think he'll even get playing time in four receiver sets. Dustin Keller will probably outpace him there.
He will be there for depth. I wonder if the Jets are looking to have him take guys like Edwards and Holmes under his wing. Both guys have had some off field issues in their careers, and New York can be an easy place to find trouble. Maybe the Jets want him to teach those guys how to conduct matters off the field. If Laveranues understands his on field opportunities will be limited and truly buys into the role, I could see him having a real positive effect.
Then again, maybe they're just waiting for Holmes to come back before letting LC go.
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Really good point, one I haven’t even heard mentioned today. Certainly could be the case too, as Coles could help mentor and hopefully get production out of guys like Clowney or Allison as you mentioned (although he hasn’t been given many chances besides special teams assignments, but we’ll see how he fares in Cortland)
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I’m sure he’s capable of that role, but I think he’s mostly here for insurance. If Holmes wasn’t suspended for four games, he would be totally out of consideration. I think what will most likely happen if he plays well, the team will see how Santonio plays when he returns and shop LC or release him. In that case, I believe he will end up on another team rather quickly.
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Cmon. We're grasping at straws here. Mentor? Mentor accomplished vets? Seriously?
Are we really turning to the pouty faced sulkster who dogged a whole season because his brokeback buddy got axed for mentorship??? Honestly, this move makes absolutely no football sense.
He’s been elected captain and been awarded the Ed Block Courage Award by his peers. Yes, he can make a positive difference off the field with some younger guys who have been in trouble. He again is also better IMO than Clowney, Smith, or Allison.
And there’s no need to refer to Pennington as his “brokeback buddy.” You can make your point without going there.
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Are you serious? Is that a warning?
I could have made the point another way, but i didn’t. I made it that way. I said the same thing a thousand different people said a million different times. I disagreed with your comment. I didn’t attack you personally. I attacked the move and the player. Since when is that out of bounds?
I don't understand how you don't think it makes sense.
Coles is an improvement over all the young guys, and this just shows our F.O doesn’t have faith in them. Let Coles be the 3rd reciever for weeks 1-4 then ship him.
I just don’t like it. I’ve generally been against bringing the old guys back, be it Pennington, Coles or whoever. I don’t think he’s all that much of an upgrade, if any at all. And he will cause someone who can contribute on specials to get cut. I’d rather have a rook with an upside (be it offense or defense) and who can make a contribution on specials than a washed up vet for a 4 week rental.
And what does he add really, football wise?
J-Co and Keller work underneath mostly. Braylon will be the only deep threat. The defenses will cheat up and it will help out in snuffing out our running game.
The Coles Question
1. Is it possible that with Coles knowlege of this system, that he helps Holmes and Edwards refine their game.
2. Ditto… the young guys Allison, Clowney , Henry… Especially Britt Davis who showed some promise last year, may have the biggest upside,
3. Let us assume that you just can’t plug Santonio into the lineup in week 5, that the plan is to put him in fully after the BYE, in week Eight.
First six games are killers, Ravens on a Monday night, the Patriots, down to Miami, to Orchard park in Buffalo, those Monsters from Minnisota, and out into the thin air in Denver. Thats 3 divisional games, and two other Super Bowl contenders. You need yor best guys for those folks, Jets need to go at least 3-3, they also need to do better in divional games. A guy at vet minimum, you do it.
4. If you are on the opening day roster , your salary is guaranteed for the year, if Coles is hanging it up, play 6 games part time and take the rest of the season off, there are no other offers out there.
5. If Coles is feeling frisky at week six and puts in a full season, and can do this part time gig. Possibly Coles gives the Jets even more leverage inthe signing of Holmes and Edwards.
All Valid Points....
It’s nothing short of insurance on the Jet’s part, and ApprxAm accentuates it from Coles’ point. It’s a job, and even if it were at the vet minimum, and darrn well paying one. He’s a smart guy and realizes what his opportunities are at this stage of his career. If he only stays part of season, anyone on this site not want that paycheck?
As far as a mentor goes, veteran leadership is great, but most teams now have some sort of infrastructure for these guys.
Two years in a row for Coles on Hard Knocks
I always knew he was a camera hog :-)
Haha and he left New York to get OUT of the spotlight….
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by Ryan Alfieri on Jul 30, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a perfect fit
How many seasons actually go by where your WR Corps dont get dinged up or seriously hurt. He’s still a clutch possesion reciever and if someone did come up lame it wouldnt be a horrible drop off in talent. He’s proven, he’s matured, he wants to win..Come on, this dude came into the leage a jackass but worked hard on becoming a really good WR for us.. I think this is a win win..
Honestly, I wouldn’t be suprised if he doesn’t make the 53. He needs to do SOMETHING on special teams. All of these additions means subtration on the back end of the roster, which doesnt leave a lot of room for 4th-WR’s who cant play special teams. Especially since backup WRs and CBs are used a lot on special teams.
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Well Clowney manages to stay on the roster and he doesn’t do anything on special teams, now we have Edwards his vertical threat isn’t even that important. Let’s not forget that Coles has over 8,000 yards in the NFL and 49 TD’s. While 5 TD’s and 500 yards in 13 games last year is not earth shattering it’s still pretty decent. He’ll be working against nickels and safeties with Edwards and Cotch taking care of the #1 and #2. He also is a top run blocker. He does a lot more than Clowney, I understand the age concern, but I personally don’t understand why people don’t like this move.
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by David_Wyatt on Jul 30, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
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