Revisiting the NFL draft
Draft day, Cleveland Ohio:
The Browns war room was said to be equally divided right down the middle about which player they want to take with the seventh overall pick. Cleveland had already decided to take a CB with the pick so the only remaining question was which of the two top rated CB's would they take?
Would they take Florida CB Joe Haden or Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson?
Among those in the war room who were said to be in Haden's corner was Browns HC Eric Mangini while defensive coordinator Rob Ryan (brother of Jets HC Rex Ryan) was solidly in favor of taking CB Kyle Wilson. There was even talk about the possibility of Cleveland moving up the board if one of the top CB's came off of the board before the Browns were on the clock, guaranteeing them one of the top two highest rated CB's in the draft.
With the Browns war room reportedly deadlocked at four votes each Cleveland GM Mike Holmgren wound up being the tie breaking vote, in essence allowing his HC to select Haden with the Brown's first round pick.
Here is a very interesting little tidbit about the first major pick of the Holmgini era (or the Mangrem era if you prefer) with regard to the selection of taking Joe Haden over Kyle Wilson.
According NFL.com's Michael Lombardi:
With rookies being liberally scattered throughout the Cleveland secondary many in Brownsville are hoping that Haden becomes the cornerstone of the new secondary in Cleveland, although not everything being said so far about Haden has been positive.
After speaking with a few coaches throughout the NFL about Haden Lombardi reports many of the them expressed the same concern about "Haden not being too impressive in camp and that he might not have the necessary speed to be a starting NFL CB" while others have opined about the possibility of Haden being shifted to safety. If that were the case it would be very difficult to justify taking Haden as the 7th overall pick of the NFL draft.
If any case given these kinds of developments Jets might have found not only the best CB in the whole NFL draft at the bottom of the first round but if Wilson proves to be as good as advertised he could combine with new guys like Brodney Pool and Antonio Cromartie and with holdovers from last seasons roster like Revis, Coleman, Leonhard and Lowery to turn what was a very good secondary with depth issues last year into not only the deepest but maybe the best overall secondary in the NFL.
A secondary like that, when combined with an already rock solid front seven. could transform what was a very good young Jet defense last season into an elite defensive unit in 2010.
It could also mean that once again the Jets may be the beneficiaries of yet another questional personnel move by Eric the Mangini. Don't forget that Mangini practically handed Sanchez to the Jets on a silver platter and that he also dealt Braylon Edwards to the Jets for not much more.
On both occasions the Jets struck a deal with the Browns for seemingly very little in terms of personnel and/or draft picks to trade up for a franchise QB and to trade for a Pro Bowl caliber WR.
While it is still way too early to definitively say just how good this Jets team may or may not be W-L record wise in 2010 I do believe what you can say even right now about the 2010 Jets is that if they can stay healthy and not have lengthy contract holdouts to serve as a disruption to team harmony so that the players play to their expected levels this Jet defense has a chance to be a very special group, a real game changer anytime it steps onto the field..
This is a team that can be very tough to run on, a team that can be very tough to pass on and a team that most importantly can be a very VERY tough team to score on.
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Not really benefitting from Mangini....
The GM of the Browns this time is Holmgrem, and he’s going to take the fall if Haden fails. I was one of those people surprised Holmgrem got a second shot at being a GM. He was a failure as GM in Seattle until he was forced to just be the coach.
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Right, and Holmgren is evidently a much better coach than he is a GM. I always liked Mangini even though I agreed with him being replaced as our coach. Also pulling for him in Cleveland to do well, one of the reasons being our working relationship that was maintained. We wouldn’t have gotten Sanchez without him…
by nationalist88 on Jul 21, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's nice to hear that.
I am very happy to have ended up with Wilson.
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Wilson was the 4th CB off the board
You wonder if the Browns had any opprotunity to trade down. Haden, then Kareem Jackson at 20 , and McCourty came off at 27 to the Patriots. As a true cover corner IMO Wilson is better than all three of them. I am guessing but the reasons that Wilson was discounted was that he did not work out at the combine and he was from that football factory Boise State. There are a few busts coming out of the University of Florida, but IMO
that was Haden’s edge. He is close to Wilson in coverage but is not as quick coming out of his breaks, and of course Wilson has better long speed. Haden will be fine and a decent CB, but the Jets drafted Revis and the Giants drafted Aaron Ross and at the time both were close. Kareem Jackson was a first round pick, a bigger CB, I thought he was destined for a Cover Two scheme, once again big school, Saban’s Alabama. McCourty great overall Special Teams, but I do not see him having the coverage skills of Wilson.
Will see, McCourty twice a year with the Patriots and get to compare against Wilson.
Wilson was a top 20 pick, we were lucky to get him at 29…
Man I hated the pick when we first took Wilson. I wanted Odrick, but when he came off I figured it had to be Hughes or Kindle. Hope Wilson turns out to be the steal everyone claims he is, and that Hughes is the next Gholston!
by nationalist88 on Jul 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
nice read
is that war room story common knowledge? i haven’t heard it before. if true, from the sound of it holmgren was backing up his HC, Mangini, who will be the fall guy if they miss on haden.
there is a learning curve though for rookie CBs, so i would temper that with any expectations for wilson. on the other hand he’s a good punt returner so i wouldn’t be surprised to see him in that role to start the season along with playing the nickel.
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The Sanchez trade was great trade
but I thought Browns got pretty good value for an underachieving WR, especially considering how deep the draft was.

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