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Stat Projection: The Quarterbacks

Over the course of the next month we're going to be running a little activity. As well as your usual training camp news and any story that presents itself we're going to be doing some stat projections with your help.

It's very simple; we'll get through all the positions before the start of the season. We'll write a little introduction, and then post up our stat projections for the players at the position. We will ask all readers to offer their own stat projections, and then just before the start of the year we'll add them all up and find the average GGN projections for each player.

We will post these up in one thread before the season, and then come back to them after the year to see how accurate they were. We hope that every member of GGN takes part in this and if people are reading and have yet to sign up, then now is a good time to do it.

We'll use our own discretion to exclude any projections that we feel are either purposely negative or positive to the extreme. However we do encourage opposing fans to leave their own projections as long as they are thought out and sensible.

For example, if you post that Sanchez will have 200 yards, 1 TD and 29 INT, there is a good chance we will exclude your projections from the eventual post because one projection like that completely ruins the average we are looking for

Any questions post them up in the comments section and we'll answer them as soon as possible.

*Although the segments below contain the projections of all GGN writers, the blurbs are solely my opinion. They don’t represent the general feeling of the staff.

So join us after the break for ours and please leave your own in the comments section:

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Mark Sanchez

 David W: 270-448, 3325 yards, 21TD’s, 11 INT

John B: 323-505, 3339, 26 TD’s 14 INT

David Vill: 250-400, 3500 yards, 20TD’s, 12 INT

Matt B: 270-451, 3650 yards, 24TD’s, 16 INT

Ryan (njdevil): 220/370, 3580, 24 TD’s, 12 INT

 We want everyone to be able to take part, so we are keeping the stat projections on the simple side. It will also allow us to create the final averages a lot quicker, as you can imagine there are going to be a fair few numbers to crunch.

 I think we will see an incline in pass attempts as Sanchez becomes more comfortable within the offensive game plan. Sanchez attempted 364 passes last year, that with him missing the one game and us using a power running game as well as bringing him on like a rookie should be early last season.

 However I can see his completion % increasing, along with his yards and TD’s. I’m hoping that the added experience will limit his mistakes, I’ve still got him tossing a few interceptions because he’s always going to try to fit some balls into spaces that are considered ‘danger areas’.

 However he will now have the "escape clause", once Leon went down last year, our receiving threat out of the backfield was pretty much non existent, and Sanchez’s check down options were limited. With LT and McKnight in the mix, he now has that added security to dump a pass off and it still turn into a positive play. It’s just one less reason for Sanchez to try and force the ball into tight coverage.

 He should have more mobility this season with his knee surgery, and I’m hoping that this added mobility as well as a maturation of decision making will lead Sanchez into making fewer mistakes. I’m not kidding myself into believing that Sanchez will throw 2-3 INT however

 Any QB in the game should want the targets that Sanchez has, which include three players who have all had seasons of 1000+ yards. An up and coming pass catching tight end as well as a player out of the backfield who can still catch a pass or two in LT.  

 Overall we have a Quarterback who I believe will improve all facets of his game. He has been given the weapons and he seems to have the work ethic. He has a good/great line, a decent running game, 3 good receivers and a pass catching tight end. As a quarterback you can’t ask for much more than that.

 I can’t envision another Buffao game, looking back at that game I’m still a little mystified as to how he got out of control so quickly. I also hope he has learned to slide feet first and keep that ball tucked away. They were big problems in his rookie year, problems that should not carry over to a 2nd year player. 

Right now I want to believe that the Mark Sanchez we saw in the post season, is the Mark Sanchez we will see the entire 2010 season, and I think it is.

Kellen Clemens

David W: 10-27, 120 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Matt B: 15-24, 135 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Dvdvill: No Stats Accumulated

John B: No Stats Accumulated

Ryan (njdevil): No Stats Accumulated

I hope Kellen Clemens doesn’t see the field this year, unless it’s to run the clock down in a blow out win. However I’m going to give him one start, jut to cover in case Sanchez can’t go one week. Or if we’ve tied up a post season berth and he comes in to play a half towards the end of the season.

 I don’t jump on Clemens like a lot of people but he hasn’t shown a great deal to make any Jet fan comfortable with him starting. He is a top pro though and sure he’ll continue to be a stand up back-up if we do go into the season with him.

 He made one start last year in a 26-3 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. In that game he went 12-23 with 111 yards and no TD throws but no interceptions either. He’s not going to set your house on fire, but he will manage the game adequately. It was against a poor team, but a win is a win. If we need him to do something similar this year, I’m confident he will get the job done. 

 It is up in the air whether he will be with us, but he’s here now and so he’s in the stat projection.

Erik Ainge

 David W: No Stats Accumulated

Dvdvill: No Stats Accumulated

John B: No Stats Accumulated

Matt B: No Stats Accumulated

Ryan (njdevil): No Stats Accumulated

I like Erik, but I never saw what other fans saw during the pre-season. He had some decent numbers but he didn’t throw the cleanest ball and I remember receivers having to come back off their route to track the ball on more than one occasion. Against 3rd/4th stringers that’s fine, but against better competition that’s a problem.

 I liked him at Tennessee and thought he could do something in the NFL and he still might, but he needs to show more. Clemens has more experience and by all accounts he has the backing of the players. For that reason I still have Ainge as the 3rd QB on my depth chart and as such I don’t think he will see any time this year.

Kevin O'Connell

David W: No Stats Accumulated

Dvdvill: No Stats Accumulated

John B: No Stats Accumulated

Matt B: No Stats Accumulated

Ryan (njdevil): No Stats Accumulated

See Eric above. Pretty much the same situation, as a 3rd/4th QB he’ll be hard pressed to find the field, and if he does….something has seriously gone wrong. I didn’t see much of him as SDSU, and only briefly saw his pre-season snaps with the Patriots.

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Seems I’ve messed up the formatting, will get that sorted ASAP

Please leave your own projections though, the more we get the better representation of Jet nation it is.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 6:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Mark Sanchez

246/411 3283 yards 22 TD 16 INT

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 19, 2010 6:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Cheers BL3ACH, no stats for any of the other QB’s?

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah right the CHISE is playing the whole season LOL I got to think for awhile

I would have to work on them. I would have to look around and see in a normal year how often the backup would play on average I couldn’t even make a guess I am comfortable with right now .T. B. A.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 19, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well is Brunnel still possible or has that been squashed?

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 19, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

HE needs MONEY so…….

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 19, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s always possible until we either say otherwise or he signs for another team.

RIght now though, he’s obviously not a Jet.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay I will work up my best guess for Clemens then.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 19, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he does join before now and the start of the season. I will add him onto the end of another positions stat projection. So he wont miss out.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

When Is a QB not a QB?

I’ve read that Smith has gotten a lot of snaps under the center this off-season. Some have even said he will be in reality the QB back-up. If that is his main function, why not include his stats in this section. What difference does it make where he is listed in the depth chart. He is not a WR on this team, he acts more often as the QB, so let’s be real. Or is there some NFL rule that prevents this.

by viguy007 on Jul 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Smith...

will have more completions than Clemens.

by SeanI on Jul 19, 2010 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Well Smith is listed as a WR, so that’s where he will be…you can put your passing projections for Smith in with the WR group.

How about doing the ones for the actual QB’s…

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hrrrmm..

Sanchise:
281-462, 3492 yds, 25 TD, 17 INT; 60 rushing yds, 4 TDs

Clemens:
10-27, 64 yds, 0 TD, 2 INT (I think Sanchez will get dinged up running around at some point)

Ainge:
16-26, 120 yds, 2TD, 1INT (And Clemens sucks too much to stay in for Sanchez)

nobody else accumulates stats

by psuwxman on Jul 19, 2010 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Fun Fact:

David Garrard had more rushing attempts, only 8 less yards, and 3 more rushing TD’s than Leon Washington had last year.

by psuwxman on Jul 19, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cheers, hoping that we don’t have to use 3 quarterbacks, but if Sanchez hasn’t learned how to slide, we may well need to.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, hoping not to have to get to even Clemens

And I’m thinking I may have gone a bit high on Clemens’ attempts, I’m pretty sure he’ll suck his way out of any fill-in time quicker than 27 attempts, to be honest.

by psuwxman on Jul 19, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well if you want to change your projections, you are free to do so, just make it clear that this a change to ones already made so I can edit it on my table.,

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well then, BACKUP EDIT:

Clemens:
7-15, 49 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT

Ainge:
12-22, 106 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Sorry about that!

by psuwxman on Jul 19, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

And by nobody else accumulates stats,

I mean nobody else actually listed as a QB posts any stats. BSmith is another story.

by psuwxman on Jul 19, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

No problem, have all been noted.

Smith will come under the wide receivers.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Smith as the real number Two

The Depth Chart will reflect Brad as number three, but Smith will be an active number two. The Jets will carry Brad as a receiver, the Jets will therefore carry only two QB’s (instead of Four) in Sanchez and Ainge. Roster flexability
Sanchez 421 attempt, 253 competions for 3,130 yards, 23 TD’s , 11 INT
Smith 48 attempts, 27 completions, for 411 yards, 4 TD’s , 0 INT
Ainge 2- 1- 6yards ,0,0

by JetOrange on Jul 19, 2010 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Make sure you put your passer projections for Brad Smith down when the Wide Receiver projections appear at some point over the next couple of weeks. That’s where he is listed right now, so that’s where the projections will go.

Sanchez and Ainge’s have been noted though.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Smith 48 attempts , 27 completions for 411, 4tds, 0 int
 of the 3-4 68 yards from punt formation
18 receptions for 192 yards ( 9 receptions on WR screens)
Rushing 44 carries for 264 yards 2 touchdowns, one a QB sneak…

Rex is the guy that drives Smith to become a bigger part of the offense, Brad responds in a big way

by JetOrange on Jul 19, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

320-500 3800yrds 18td 12int

by Judgegavel on Jul 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I take it that is for Sanchez, and you have none of the other QB’s accumulating any stats this year.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez: 325/530, 4000 yards, 30 TDs 14 INTs, 300 rushing yards, 3 rushing TDs
Brunell: I dunno, like 6/12 for 92 yards after we rest Sanchez for the second half of week 17 for the upcoming playoff game ;)
Nobody else accumulates passing stats besides Brad Smith.

Personally I think ground ‘n’ pound goes out the window after a couple of weeks when we realize “oh yeah we have like 4 legit receiving threats”. We start racking up the points, force teams to play right into our ridiculous pass defense and CRUSH them.

by Exystence on Jul 19, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

QB STATS

SANCHEZ ISN’T GOING TO BE GREAT-YET, BOT I THINK HE’LL BE MORE THAN SERVICEABLE-220/400-20/12-@3200 YDS.

by Rob P. on Jul 19, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

200/400 3000 yards 14 TDs 16 INT

A continual gradual improvement, Sanchez struggles a bit carrying more of the load while the running game shows flashes but isn’t as good as last year.

Clemens/Brunnel get a handful of stats, but nothing important.

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by Mark D on Jul 19, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

You mind putting up the stats for Clemens, even if they are a handful would help towards the average.

Not going to ask for Brunnel’s yet as he isn’t a Jets player right now.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

4/12 60 yards, 1 TD 0 INT with Edwards breaking out one of his passes for 40-50 yard TD.

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by Mark D on Jul 19, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honest Prediction here

Mark Sanchez 255-400 3100 yards 18 td’s 15 Int’s….

by afceast on Jul 19, 2010 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Cheers buddy.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do have a question though

I see some predictions giving Sanchez 10-12 more td’s this season. And while I can see that happen I’m just not sure were the numbers come from. Is it just a guess or did people put a little time behind there answers. Just a question

by afceast on Jul 19, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Can only speak for myself. I gave him a lot more for three main reasons 1) I think his pass attempts will make a jump with less dependence on the run game this year. 2) His maturation as a QB and the touch he showed in the play-offs, looked more comfortable with his reads. 3) His receivers are going to turn a lot of players into TD’s IMO, He didn’t start with Edwards last year, and now with Edwards/Holmes(week 5 onwards) and Cotchery, as well as Keller and some screens to the backfield….I think that’s why he will see a jump in his TD passes.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok I see your point Thanks

by afceast on Jul 19, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here it goes

Sanchez:
240/430 for 3000 20 TDs and 12 INTs with 140 yards rushing, and 4 rushing TDs.

I see him taking a nice stride forward along the lines of what Flacco did last year, he obviously has better weapons than Flacco did but we all saw Matt Ryan take a slide back last year and I don’t want to get overly optimistic about Sanchize especially since he didn’t have near the rookie years that Flacco and Ryan had. (although I really think Matt Ryan will take a huge step forward and turn out to be the best pro QB taken in the last few years, then again as a BC guy I think Doug Flutie could have been the greatest QB of all time and that Rich Gunnell will step up and become an NFL starter, so I do have a bit of a bias). Also I didn’t see other rushing projections above, and I think that he will continue to try scrambling and putting himself at risk.

Kellen Clemens:
8/15 for 140 Yards 1 TD and 1 INT with 3 yards rushing

I hope he doesnt get play time, but he probably will get a little, and when I first read the article for some reason when I saw his name I read just “keller” instead of “kellen” and saw the yard projections and was shocked, then I read the first line about hoping he doesn’t see the field and was really confused. Then I noticed it was Keller. I need some caffine.

I hope no one else sees the field at QB (this means you Brunnell)

by revans on Jul 19, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Well that was my first reaction, but if he is in the game most likely we are blowing a team out of the water. LOL So I do hope he gets some playing time.

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by BL3ACH on Jul 19, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez is going to have to show me he has learned to protect himself better before I pencil him in for a full season lol

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kellen Clemens

14/26 117 yards 0 TD 1 INT

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 19, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Cheers BL3ACH, been added as well as your earlier ones.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez: 260-430, 3600 yards, 20 TD’s, 13 INT’s

Clemens: 11-23, 110 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Ainge/O’Connell = no stats accumulated

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by TheSanchize6 on Jul 19, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Sanchez: 248/422, 3237 yards, 23 td, 13 int.
Clemens: 4/10, 38 yards, 0 td, 0 int.
Ainge/O’Connell: None

I hope that the Jets are able to use a QB for garbage time, which is why I gave Clemens anything, but I hope the QB would be Brad Smith instead.

by revis_island on Jul 19, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Same, agree 110% with your last sentence. Had the same thinking as well.

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by Matt Birch on Jul 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Predictions

Sanchez: 260/430, 3250 yards, 22 TD’s, 13 Int, 60 yards rushing, 2 rushing TD’s
I don’t see him throwing 20+ INT’s again but I think he will still toss some due to growing pains. TD’s up for most of the reasons stated above. Rushing TD’s because I don’t see him resisting the temptation to run it in himself that he showed last season.

Clemens: 10/17, 45 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Any scores that come with Clemens in will come from the run game, Schotty will not want him to be throwing too far downfield or anything too risky. For the same reason, no INT. I think he probably comes in for a half/quarter and change during a blowout.

Ainge/O’Connell: No stats accumulated
I think Mark can go the distance to the point where Clemens will be the only QB we ever need to sub in, with the caveat that if either of them improves by leaps and bounds this camp this might change.

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Sanchez: 256/448 3675 yards 23 TD 14 INT – 87.9 QB Rating

Clemens: 7/19 58 Yards 0 TD 0 Int – 45.5 QB Rating

Ainge: N/A

O’Connell: N/A

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by DG whaaat on Jul 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Great Job Running This Thing Though David and Getting It Up!

More to come like this, great idea you had,. Love it.

Will be interesting to bump these threads towards the end of the season and see who was closest!

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by Matt Birch on Jul 19, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m hoping that when I work out the averages, those are closest to the actual stats. A W for GGN so to speak.

Cheers though, still hoping to get a few more people get their projections down.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez: 263/454, 3096 yards, 18 td, 15 int.

I’m plagiarizing though, can you guess from where?

by davver on Jul 19, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

?? where?

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not the one, Flacco had 21 TD’s/12INT and 3,613 yards.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I checked it via Pro-Reference, and whoever this is doesn’t exist.

So either Carson Palmer 2004, Matt Ryan 2009, Chris Miller 1995, or Vinny 1997

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by Mark D on Jul 19, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comp: 232
Att: 471
Pct: 49.3
Yds: 3,379
Avg: 7.2
TD: 19
Int: 27

by Phil Aragon on Jul 19, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

those are for sanchez

by Phil Aragon on Jul 19, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are some pretty dire stats……can I ask the reasoning

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

GOD PHIL I hope you are just a glass 1/2 empty kind of guy.

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by BL3ACH on Jul 20, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sanchez:

289/475

3,224 Yards

22 TD

19 INT

Clemens:

4/9

28 YDS

1 TD

2 INT

METS

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by AmarDude on Jul 19, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

245/425, 2940 yds, 19 TDs 12 INT – Sanchez
Clemens et. al, 0/0

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by OldProspects on Jul 19, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Mark's Year

Mark Sanchez

328 431 3,498 yards 23 TD’s 13 INT’s

by jetsfan29 on Jul 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Call me crazy but.....

Mark Sanchez

433/503 – 4978 yards – 33 TD’s – 8 INT’s

by oneg82 on Jul 19, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

BOLD. But that would be awesome if San put those numbers we would be playing in the finals.

You realize that is over an 85% completion rate right?

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by BL3ACH on Jul 20, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is a little crazy, the completion % is what 86% or something like that, the highest completion % last year was 70% and that was Drew Brees, 67% in 2008 and that was Pennington and 68% in 07 with Brady. It’s hard enough getting over 70%…but over 80%….

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 20, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see Improvement coming, but not a huge leap

Sanchez
240-415, 3750, 19 TD’s, 14 Int’s

Clemens
12-27, 68, 1 TD, 1 Int

by JetGreen on Jul 20, 2010 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

correction: i meant 2750 yards, not 3750.

by JetGreen on Jul 20, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cheers guys, all have been noted.

The RB’s will be coming up at some point this week, so get your thinking caps on for them as well.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 20, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Mark Sanchez 2010 projections

I think Mark Sanchez will take a big step forward this year, but I think he’ll take shots down the field, but for the most part he will protect the football like he did last year down the stretch.

259 completions
432 attempts (27 attempts per game)
3,360 yards (210 yards per game)
26 touchdowns
10 interceptions

224 rushing yards
4 rushing touchdowns

2 receptions for 26 yards
from the wildcat / mizzou package / trojan package (as I think McKnight will line up back there a few times this year)

by eddie0102 on Jul 20, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Mark Brunell 13-26 229 yards

Ainge (No stats)

by eddie0102 on Jul 20, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s 17 yards a completion and 8.8 yards an attempt for Brunell

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