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Jets 2010-11 Schedule Breakdown (2/2): Game-by-Game Analysis

Week One - Vs. Baltimore Ravens

Storyline: Ryan actually interviewed for the Ravens job that eventually went to John Harbaugh. How bad do you think he wants to beat them?

Trend: Jets are 3-1 in season openers over the last 4 seasons.

Trend: (via poster Bob_The_Friendly_Baker ): Jets haven't beaten the Ravens since 1998.

Breakdown: The Jets open Monday Night Football in what has the makings to be the best matchup in week one. Which team will ground-and-pound the other en route to victory in the MNF opener at the new stadium? A game with storylines of epic proportions, as the new-school, Harbaugh-era Ravens come to town to face Rex and the "old" ones.  Furthermore, watching the youngins Sanchez and Flacco duel it out will certainly be entertaining.

IMO, the Ravens are the second-toughest matchup for the Jets in the AFC (Colts being the first) as both teams play very similar brands of football. The Ravens certainly had a good season last year, and they will look to improve upon that as they've acquired one of the better slot receivers in the game in Boldin to add more weapons on offense. Coupled with Donte Stallworth who presents a deep threat and will be motivated with a lot to prove, It's safe to say Flacco has some toys to play with this year and their passing game will be much improved. This in turn, will improve the effectiveness of their potent rushing attack, while Ray Rice continues to get better with age and solidify himself as one of the top 3 RB's in the NFL.

Even though it was a preseason game, last year's matchup was nothing short of disappointing. The only difference is, it won't be Eric Ainge behind center when the Jets go for the game-wining two-point conversion. Time to beat them when it counts, and I think GangGreen will do just that --- rallying behind their home crowd in the MNF stadium opener to squeak out a close win by a FG.

PREDICTION: WIN

Follow me after the jump for the rest of the schedule!

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Week Two - Vs. New England Patriots

StoryLine: Last year, the Jets finally bucked the trend, and snapped an eight-game home losing streak to the Cheats.

‘Situational' Analysis Note: Having to kick off the season by playing these two emotional games against very formidable opponents back-to-back (with division-rival Miami on deck) makes this a tough stretch to begin the Jets' 2010-11 campaign. Luckily, they get the luxury of playing both of these games at home. Still, the Jets will be coming off of a short week and the stadium opener which has the potential to be a very emotional game, win or lose. Not an awful three-week stretch, but certainly a challenging one.

Breakdown: After finally getting the monkey off of their backs and beating NE at home, the Jets now enter this matchup with some confidence, believing that they are indeed the better team and can win this game. Times are a changin', the tide has turned.

New England had a relatively quiet offseason, and that may not be a good thing for them. They have an aging, injury-riddled D-Line which will be doing a lot of rotating and substituting this year. On offense,  they field a "WR1" in Moss (whose lack of speed rarely draws double coverage anymore), and even though they have probably the best slot receiver in the game, Wes Welker enters this season coming off of a serious injury with a big question mark attached to his name. And well, they've never had much of a run-game in recent years, too many inconsistencies in the back field -- no "go-to" guy.

A couple of years back, NE's offensive/defensive fronts would have pushed the Jets around, had their way with them, and controlled the game --- NOT ANYMORE.  I think the Jets will look to play a very physical game and out-muscle them in the trenches like they did in the matchup at home last year,  use some good hard-nosed smash mouth football to work the clock and limit NE's possessions, and pull out another emotional home victory. The Jets will look to control the tempo of the game, and I think they will do just that.

PREDICTION: WIN

Week Three - @ Miami Dolphins

StoryLine: Jets look to avenge last year's sweep by their division rivals, two teams that had VERY active offseasons will battle it out.

Breakdown: For awhile it appeared as if Miami were playoff-bound for the second year in a row, but the little stinkers managed to stink it up and went on to lose their last 3 games of the season. (Congrats on finishing under .500 guys!! ::: high five:: ) Anyways...

The Jets come into this divisional road game after playing two extremely emotional games, both of which will be physical, grind-it-out games. That makes this a tough situational spot. A primetime TV game in a tough environment to play in is no easy task.

Miami made some big moves in the offseason:  picking up Brandon Marshall to help keep opposing defenses honest and increasing the effectiveness of the Wildcat (gimmick) formation, and also OLB Karlos Dansby who is a monster pass-rusher. Chad Henne will have another year of experience under his belt, and this team looks like they will win 1-2 games more than last season. This is a tough spot for the Jets, and I think the Fins will squeak it out, although I hope I'm wrong.

PREDICTION: LOSS

Week Four - @ Buffalo Bills

StoryLine: Bills forced six Sanchez turnovers in their OT upset win in Giants Stadium back in October of last year.

As we saw in their quest to find a head coach, no one even wanted to coach this hapless Buffalo franchise. Their best asset is their secondary, which is actually, IMO, the second best in the NFL (behind the Jets'). Unfortunately for them, they don't have a QB, an OL/DL. They've always ignored the trenches, and game fundamentals, and it's come back to haunt them. But they do have arguably the worst WR corps in the NFL (I feel bad for Lee Evans who is the only talented one)! They drafted a RB high in the first round in CJ Spiller, when they had other more pressing needs. This team is in shambles right now.

The Bills are a work in progress, and by this, I mean they're working to be a .500 team in 2025. The Jets will steamroll them like they did in Rogers Centre last year.

PREDICTION: WIN

Week Five - Vs. Minnesota Vikings

StoryLine: Jets will look to bury the self-absorbed QB who used his year as a Jet as a "stepping stone"... finishing his stint in green with a stinking 1-4 record against weak competition.

Breakdown: First off, I do believe Favre will QB this team as he had surgery on his ailing ankle. You don't have surgery unless you intend to play. At the same time, who knows how long the old man will last, maybe he'll be banged up by week 5? Lol.

This is another tough matchup for the Jets, and I'm very glad we get this one at home. Minnesota has dangerous speed at the WR position, and so many weapons a defense must focus on. I do believe they field one of  the top 3 WR corps in the NFL, and they have home-run hitter Adrian Peterson and an excellent offensive line to compliment that. When Brett isn't "Favre-ing" (heaving) it down the field relentlessly, and calling the plays himself with Childress taking a back seat, this is a balanced offense that can beat you by air or on the ground. HOWEVER, I think the loss of Chester Taylor is big for them, and will magnify Peterson's ball security issues/fumble-it is. They drafted RB Tody Gerhart to replace Taylor in the future, but it will be interesting to see what they do in the first half of the season. I think it will lead to too much of the passing game,  and render them a bit predictable. If they want to lob the ball down the field, the Jets' secondary will be ready for that.

If the Jets can bottle up Adrian Peterson, they can force the Vikings into running a one-dimensional offense, and then let (IMO) the #1 secondary in the NFL lock down their WR's with some zone coverage and nickel package. I think they will do just that, and I think they will win.

PREDICTION : WIN

Week Six --- @ Denver Broncos

StoryLine: Jets were arguably the hottest team at the conclusion of the season, and Denver was the worst (2-8 L10 games). Denver has won the last two matchups between the two though.

Breakdown: This will be an interesting matchup, as the Jets were a "buyer" this offseason, and Denver was definitely a "seller." Trading away Brandon Marshall, Tony Scheffler, and drafting Tim Tebow with their first round pick, the Broncos definitely shocked some people.  

I personally think this Denver team is a work in progress, and will be lucky to reach .500 this season.  Even as tough as an environment as it is in Mile High Stadium, I think the Jets win this one.

Prediction: WIN

Week Seven - BYE WEEK

StoryLine: Jets are undefeated in bye weeks ; ).

Week Eight - Vs. Green Bay

StoryLine: The Packers finished #1 in turnover margin last season at +1.3/game, while the Jets were 11th with +0.2/game.

As if the Jets secondary won't be tested enough in week five against Minnesota, they will really be tested in week eight, as Aaron Rodgers and one of the best air attacks comes to town.  Several analysts are picking the Packers to win the NFC, and I can see why. They will now be in the second year of defensive mastermind Dom Capers' 3-4 scheme, and the players will likely be more comfortable in it now.

This is a tough game to handicap because the Packers are a team I just can't seem to figure out yet, on paper at least. There are still question marks on the O-Line which was their biggest problem last year, and now with Jolly suspended their D-Line takes a hit also.  They suffered a lot of injuries on defense last year, and found themselves getting torched through the air as a result. I think they will improve here, but I'm not sure how much. One thing's for certain: they're going to score points, and Aaron is going to throw for 250 yards/2+ TD's often.

Think the Jets are challenged by the Packers' offense, GB gets ahead early and wins a close one.

Prediction: LOSS

Week Nine - @ Detroit

StoryLine: This game was initially rumored to take place during Thanksgiving.

The Matt Millen era of incompetency is over, and the Lions are a team going in the right direction. IMO, they had one of the best offseasons for any team in the NFL. They finally picked up some veterans to put on their DL, helping mentor rookie phenom Ndamukong Suh, and QB Matt Stafford will be in his second year with a veteran receiver in Burleson to help compliment the talented Calvin Johnson who was consistently mobbed with double coverage as he was the main offensive weapon they had. Defenses knew what to focus on, the Lions had no run-game, and were very predictable.

I think this team is improving, and they may finish close to .500 this year, but still have 1-2 years to go. They are still, primarily, a young team, but I don't think they are acclimated to win big games (especially divisional) on the road just yet.

In this particular matchup, I think the Jets will ground-n-pound them to death, and that will be the difference. I think their D-Line was upgraded tremendously in pass-rushing, but still think the team that was 26th in the NFL for 126.6/ypg will get torched on the ground, and the Jets will use that to control the game en route to victory. The guys they brought in known for their pass-rushing, not their run-stopping.

PREDICTION : WIN

Week Ten - @ Cleveland

StoryLine: The Jets travel to Cleveland to face former head coach Eric Mangini, and this game also marks Braylon's return to the Dawg Pound.

Even with Mike Holmgren running the show in the front office, this team is still a work in progress. Also, we still have no idea who their QB will be. When the offensive star of your team is your kick returner/WR4 (Josh Cribbs caught only 20 balls last year), you still have some building to do. They do have a stout D-Line, and some great run stoppers in Shaun Rogers and Robaire Smith, and do think they will be much improved against the run this year. They weren't awful last season, but a couple of big games in which they allowed 200+ killed them and made them look worse (statistically) than they were.

Mangini will be gunning to beat his former team, but I don't think he has the tools (or coaching sense) to do so. This is the same guy who couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag, and I think the Jets defense can easily shut the Browns' offense  down. If Jake Delhomme is under center, I foresee many turnovers for the Browns, and this game being similar to the one in Tampa last season, with the Jets' defense leading the way to victory against a lackluster team. And Braylon Edwards, 2 TD's in his return.

PREDICTION : WIN

Week Eleven - Vs. Houston

StoryLine: Last year's #1 ranked passing defense (169.1 yards/game) meets the 09-10 #1 ranked passing offense (290 yards/game).

In case the Jets weren't tested by the Packers' or Vikings' air attack, they certainly will be this week. The Jets face Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson and Co., who finished #1 in passing yards last year @ 290 yards/game. While Revis did an excellent job on Johnson in last season's matchup (4 catches/35 yards), it will most likely be tougher the second time around.

The Texans finished 9-7 last season, and I could definitely see this team winning 9-10 games and clinching a playoff berth this season. They were unfortunate to lose a couple of games late, most of them due to turnovers (a couple at the goal-line), which was what kept them out of the playoffs.

I think the Texans will have more balance on offense this season, and will be tough for any defense to prepare against. I don't have a good feeling about this game, and I think a couple of breaks will go Houston's way, and that'll be the difference.

PREDICTION: LOSS

Week Twelve- Vs. Cincinnati

It's safe to say the REVENGE FACTOR will be in play full-force for the Bengals here, and that this one is already marked on their calendar,  however I don't think they have the tools to win this game.

Another team that has been relatively quiet throughout the offseason, and another team I have trouble putting my finger on. However, the Jets do matchup well against them, as Cincinnati plays a similar brand of football as the Jets, but GangGreen plays it better.

I really have no idea what to expect from Carson Palmer and how he will fare after an injury-riddled career, but I do know the Bengals have a weak WR corps and Jets will look to stack the box and contain Benson. This looks to be a grind-it-out game, and I like the Jets to win by a FG.

StoryLine: The Jets outscored the Bengals 61-14 in the two matchups last year. The second of which entailed Sanchez having a near-perfect passer rating of 139.4 in his NFL playoffs debut.

PREDICTION: WIN

Week Thirteen --- @ New England

StoryLine: New England loves to use cameras.

See previous writeup on NE, I'm not going to do two write-ups for each divisional game twice.  Am predicting a split against our division rivals, and while I do think this game will be competitive, think we'll lose by a TD or less. Jets could possibly be looking ahead to Miami the next week also, especially if they lose the first matchup earlier in the season. Being swept by the dirty fish two years consecutively is not something I see Rex and Co. allow to happen.

PREDICTION: LOSS

Week Fourteen --- Vs. Miami

While the Jets referred to last year's week two matchup with the Patriots their "super bowl," methinks this game will be the one that acquires that title this season. I think winning in Miami will be extremely tough and there is a decent chance the Jets will drop that game. That makes this game one of epic proportions, not only for divisional implications, but also for bragging rights --- the Jets will stop at nothing to avoid being swept by this team in consecutive years.

And they will win.

StoryLine: I hate dislike the Miami Dolphins.... a lot.

PREDICTION: WIN

Week Fifteen --- @ Pittsburgh

This matchup intrigues me, as the Jets travel to Heinz Field for a matchup with Pittsburgh who were arguably the first team in recent years to introduce "smash-mouth" football to the NFL. The Jets now employ that style of play too, and this is a game which I am predicting to be very low scoring. Polamalu returns this year to help anchor the secondary, and I still think Pitt has one of (if not the best)  the defensive fronts in football.

Offensively, Roethlisberger will obviously be eligible to play in this game, but I still think their WR corps is extremely weak with the loss (our gain) of Santonio Holmes, and Limas Sweed's injury probably rendering him out of the season.  Without Willie Parker, they are very young at RB and will be having open competition for the RB2 spot to compliment Mendenhall. Even though 20-year-old Dwyer is promising, they don't have a guy who can be consistent there to start the season. There are a LOT of question marks on the offensive side of things for Pittsburgh.

This will be a tough, grind-it-out game in a tough environment, and damn if I have to see those "terrible towels," but I think the Jets will win a very close game of FG's/field position, by being slightly better on offense and winning the time of possession.

PREDICTION: WIN

StoryLine: Smash Mouth football- old-school vs new-school. The Steelers were the first team in the 21st century to successfully employ and win with smash-mouth football. Things are changing though, as the Jets now also play that brand of football, and they do it well. The Steelers, on the other hand, are weak at  O-Line and have some new faces at the RB position this year, which could alter their style of play. The Steelers are regressing, and the Jets will win.

Week Sixteen --- @ Chicago

The Jets travel to Soldier Field to face a team that suffered a plethora of injuries last year, and has a solid young, up-and-coming WR corps who I think is very talented.  The Bears brought in Mike Martz to work with Jay Cutler and help rectify their offensive woes.  Bears also brought in RB Chester Taylor who I think is a very capable back and will give them a great 1-2 punch with Forte.

I discussed this in the other thread, but think on defense the bears will be fired up from the verbal berating they received last season from Mike Ditka and Gale Sayers. They suffered a lot of injuries last year in their defensive front, and I think the Bears' stout defense of old will return. They have a lot to prove, and think they will be very motivated to succeed this year, although there is a lot of pressure on them (and Lovie).

I expect this Bears team to be much-improved this year and earn a postseason berth. If they achieve the balance on offense that I am predicting, they will be a tough matchup for any defense. With their speed at WR stretching the field, this opens doors for their strong running game. This is the third road game in four weeks for the Jets, and I think they drop this one against a very formidable opponent.

StoryLine: Lovie Smith will be coaching for his job this season, and I see a lot of pressure on this Bear's team this season.

PREDICTION: LOSS

Week Seventeen --- Vs. Buffalo

The Bills are a bad, bad team, and will be lucky to win four games this season. They're also lucky I wrote more than one paragraph about them above, because that's about all they deserve.

I hope the Jets are in a position to where they can rest a couple of players here, but I'm not sure how many they'll be resting because I do think the race for the division will come down to the final game.

StoryLine:. This game could make-or-break the Jets in their quest to win the East.

PREDICTION: WIN

2010-11 PROJECTED Record: 11-5 (4-2 in East) --- AFC EAST CHAMPS!!!


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11-5

I know I said 10-6 in yesterday’s post, but I’ve been back and forth on the Minnesota game and I do think we’ll win it… had initially penciled that in as a loss.

Edited the other post, 11-5 is what I’m sticking with.

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by Matt Birch on Jul 17, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I too had my doubts regarding this one. You need to pass the ball against the Vikings; it all depends on the level of the Jets passing game at the time, which should be fine and dandy. Tough one to handicap at this point.

by Guru506 on Jul 18, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say 13-3 as best case scenario, 10-6 as worst case

vs BAL – Either Way
vs NE – W
@ MIA – L
@ BUF – W
vs MIN – L
@ DEN- W
vs GB – Either Way
@ DET – W
@ CLE – W
vs HOU – W
vs CIN – W
@ NE – L
vs MIA – W
@ PIT – Either Way
@ CHI – W
vs BUF – W

by SportsFanatic88 on Jul 17, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I could easily go either way on Minny. I see you have it as a loss, that was the difference between 10-6 / 11-5 for me.

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by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we lose one

between MIN and CHI

I think we sweep the fish this year and pay back the upset (I know it sounds nuts but they will be too hyped up for games against us and make petty mistakes that cost them both games)

I think we lose one to Buffalo, but sweep the Pats

I think we lose to CIN as pay back

But when all is said and done, it is still an 11-5 record

by JETSKID123 on Jul 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buffalo

Did they make some huge offseason strides I don’t know about

by the yooper on Jul 18, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL yeah Brian Brohm

No Nothing major

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 18, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

we got Dwan Edwards, one of Baltimore’s big run stuffers, Andra Davis (the heart of Denvers revamped LB core from last year), Cornell Green (who I hope never sees the field, though sadly with Butler’s surprise retirement at 26 from injury, he probably will). We also drafted Torrell Troup and Alex Carrington upfront for the defense (second and third round respectively). as for QB, I am hoping Chan Gailey can make one of our QB’s look at least as good as he made Tyler Thigpen look for one season, so our offense isn’t quite so pathetic.

by EskimoAlva on Jul 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked Brohm in college I was suprised he fell out of favor so fast in GB.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 18, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brohm

They sure gave him every opportunity being drafted as high as he was. They are extremely happy with Flynn the 7th rounder fom the same draft as Rogers backup. He just never adjusted to the speed of the NFL game while in Green Bay.

by the yooper on Jul 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rumor going around the bills

is that he never learned the playbook. he so far has had the same problem here as well. this sadly was apparent in the OTAs, when he was throwing outside when the route went inside, and stuff like that. hopefully if he gets that figured out, he will be a decent QB for us. we are most likely his last chance to be a starter, barring him going elsewhere and an injury. he still looked the best during OTA’s though, trent did nothing and Fitzpatrick did his normal can’t hit a target at five feet.. he threw more Ints, but put up more yards in one day than edwards did the whole camp, and was actually willing to throw for positive yardage. here’s to hoping :)

by EskimoAlva on Jul 18, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that in G.B. we consider McCarhy to be a QB guru

by the yooper on Jul 18, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-0?

I think someone forgot to send a memo for the Ravens to lie down in that game.

by Punt on Jul 18, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The game can go either way, so don’t see the problem with chalking it as a win just like I don’t see the problem chalking it as a loss.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 18, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice breakup

I don’t think we will beat the Ravens, I hope I am wrong though. Nice call with Huston, I think we will have trouble with them after we abused them last year, I have heard some people say that game is a walk in the park.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 17, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks man, it definitely won’t be a walk in the park like you said. Houston has always been an under-the-radar team, but if you look past the box scores, this team was a couple of unlucky breaks away from making the postseason last year. I think they win 9 games, maybe 10 this season.

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by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great article rec'd

But I think the trend for the Ravens game should be we haven’t beaten them since 1998.

by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jul 17, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Really like that, editing/adding it in with your name, appreciate it.

It’s hard to find trends right now bro, most of it comes from my memory or looking at the 2010 schedule or 2009 stats…. theres no sample size for 2010 obviously, and very little information/trends available.

No one has anything up for the 2010 season, all the MSMs are waiting until training camp.

Gang Green Nation

by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

MY JETS WILL WIN ALL GAMES IN 2010 SEASON

black CYBER RANGER

by BCR1 on Jul 17, 2010 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

ravens fan

On a neutral field I think our teams are equal, home field gives you guys the 3 points spread vegas is giving you. I don’t know whose gonna come out on top, I just hope nobody gets hurt against these two Ds. 17-13 is the final score.

Will be there with my Dad Monday Night, we are originally from around the Meadowlands. Route for you guys whenever you’re not in the Ravens way.

Man I wish they kept Rex Ryan. He will be the new Belichick (the winning not the cheating). If only Bart Scott didn’t through that penalty flag in the stands I think he would have gotten the job. You guys are lucky to have him.

by davver on Jul 18, 2010 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

That sounds about right, I really do have a lot of respect for you all’s squad this year. Hell, a lot of guys are picking you to win the AFC.

It’s a big game for both teams, I think a little bit bigger for the Jets because of our new stadium, but there is also a lot more pressure on us, especially with the media hype talking us up. Not sure if that’ll be a good or bad thing, we’ll see.

Think the Jets will squeak out a very close, tough battle. Will be one of the best for the season, hope you and your dad enjoy it, it makes to be one of the best games this season. The storylines alone give me a hard-on.

Gang Green Nation

by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t disagree with the logic at all here Mat, so nicely done. I’ll take an 11-5 season I reckon ;-)

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 18, 2010 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks sir, and yes you also said 11-5!

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by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see this as a long, long year for the Bears. Martz has done nothing with any offense since he left St. Louis. Putting him and Cutler together seems like a slam dunk for problems. Plus his long developing routes with a shaky offensive line and a mistake prone QB aren’t a good combo.

I think the Jets will win if healthy.

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by John B on Jul 18, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, when you combine a QB that likes to take chances with a bad offensive line, unproven receivers, a complicated, finesse offense, built by a desperate front office, AND an aging defense? Spells disaster.

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by Ryan Alfieri on Jul 18, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember when bears fans & especially media dubbed Cutler as the best QB in Bears history since Jim McMahon….. oops

by SportsFanatic88 on Jul 19, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Longest GGN Story ever? Maybe?

Nice work, Matt.

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by Ryan Alfieri on Jul 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

rec’d

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by John B on Jul 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahah, thanks. It just might be the longest..

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by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't disagree with the games

but just two things
1. Dansby is an ILB
2. The steelers running game is much better than you say, once Mendenhall took over last year he was very good and is the clear number one back.

by vinnyandthejets on Jul 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Great comments all around

First, thanks to Matt or doing what no one else outside of GGN seems to do, putting yourself out there on a game by game basis before the pre-season ever begins. When an article is well written, it gets the respect of Jets and non-Jets fans alike (thanks davver for your your comments as well-can’t all be blessed being green!).

As was mentioned, like all games, injuries are a hugh caveat here, followed by weather in the outside stadiums. But the article was well written, provided insight into the season, and for all of us, gets us psyched for the upcoming season.

Go Green!

by oldskooljet on Jul 18, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

couple of notes/comments

As for baltimore, that ought to be a fascinating game to watch. I give you the edge, since baltimore lost one of their best run stuffers, Dwan edwards, which works in your favor.

I don’t think you will win the Minnesota game. I expect you to limit them offensively, but my chief concern for the game is what you will do against their defense. Sanchez will have jared allen in his face a lot more than he likes, and you probably won’t be able to run much (and certainly not power running up the middle). If you guys get enough play-action deep passes in (minnesota’s secondary is pretty bad), you could win the game, but i think it will be close but in their favor. they had an extremely explosive offense last year, so you will need to outscore them.

I personally don’t see the hype with chicago. They didn’t fortify their WR core, the only O-line addition was a 7th round pick ( and a couple of JAGs-just a guy), and mike martz’s schemes tend to require longer drops, thus a better offensive line. you also have to remember that cutler isn’t nearly the decision maker that martz is accustomed to working with (he is no kurt warner). their defense hasn’t really been dominant in a few years either. add to that they let go of their most consistent DE (alex brown) and you have a recipe for disaster. i think you take that game by at least 10.

As for pittsburgh, as long as your offense doesn’t tank against their defense, i think you can limit their offense. mendenhall is better than willie parker by a fair margin, but their o-line still stinks, so running won’t work well. roethlisburger is a good QB, but he also lost one of his favorite targets. who is going to replace him? limas sweed? i think not. mike wallace wasn’t bad last year, but he wasn’t facing opposing teams top CBs either.

And while I will get flamed for this, you should really look at what the Bills have actually done before you go talking like we are worse than detroit in their 0-16 season. we have drafted more lineman in the high rounds than you guys have the last couple of years. The interior of our o-line is pretty good, as long as Hangartners back is healed and we don’t end up 11 different O-line combinations on the field next year. and as for the defensive line, kyle williams was a pro-bowl alternate, and we drafted two defensive lineman in the first three rounds this spring (including a true NT) . add in kyle williams
all that said, i still think you will sweep us (i still don’t know how you can run for 300 yards and lose). unless brian brohm lives up to his draft hype (he actually looked really good at OTA’s, though he needs to study the playbook a little bit more) we won’t have much of an offense. the good news though is that if brohm fails, we have plenty of options for trentative checkwards (trent edwards) in spiller, schouman (if healthy for more than a game this year), nelson, and jackson. if we don’t have the injury problems we had last year, i think the games will be a lot closer than you might think. the biggest thing for us is how much improvement will there be on the d-line.

by EskimoAlva on Jul 18, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

They gained Cody. not a big fan of just fat guys, but if he can hold 2 lineman that will free up the other beasts they have on defense

Don’t Minny have to play without the two williams?? Either way we will win in the trenches Brink can handle Allen IMO.

Don’t under estimate the Bears its like they gained a LT in Chris Williams. Thy moved him from RT last year. You will be able to tell early if the Bears are good or not, but last year Williams owned J Allen last year late in the season so he may have a breakout year.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 18, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

last i heard

Minnesota state court shot don part of the case, and it looks like they will get to play the entire year:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflsuspensions

Also, weren’t their suspensions only four games? You play them in week five.

by EskimoAlva on Jul 18, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

 If the case wasn’t final then it might of not started at week 1

Minny is a good team, but IDK about elite they played a lot of close games, could of just as easily had 3 more losses. I think we will beat them

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your analysis of Chicago reads as if I would have wrote it.

by the yooper on Jul 18, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the Packer love and Minny not so much, I hope your overrating Chicago.
Having Minnesota in the division is tough enough

I like how you guys have built your team, good drafting and developing your players for the most part except for recievers Boldin should be a big help if he stays healthy. good Luck this season.

by the yooper on Jul 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Naw you’re good man, always up for other opinions/viewpoints, makes for a great discussion. Glad to hear your thoughts!

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by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL I was confused at first though couldn’t figure out why you were saying you and Boldin

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 18, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll take Boldin if you like….Edwards/Holmes/Cotchery/Boldin….good luck defending that lol

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 18, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confused

I’ve been laid up for a month with a broken heel so I bounce around all the sites who I feel might be contenders to see what there fans think.

by the yooper on Jul 18, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of people are getting that football itch now.

We should be pacified a lot more this off-season with hard knocks, will you be watching TY? sure to be some good entertainment with the likes of Rex/Mangold and Scott.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 18, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how we can’t beat Houston again. It wasn’t even close the first time.

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by Ryan Alfieri on Jul 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree. Their strengths play directly into ours. Unless Andre Johnson has a better day than Revis, there is no reason to believe they have a better chance than they did last year.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jul 18, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

vs BAL – L
vs NE – W
@ MIA – W
@ BUF – W
vs MIN – L
@ DEN- W
vs GB – L
@ DET – W
@ CLE – W
vs HOU – W
vs CIN – L
@ NE – W
vs MIA – W
@ PIT – W
@ CHI – W
vs BUF – W

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jul 18, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

You have us sweeping the division….that’s bold.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 18, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really do feel like it could bounce our way. I am aware of the boldness of that prediction, I am just not as impressed by the Pats as most other people. As far as Miami goes, I think that is just extreme positive thinking and the inability to be unbiased in that case, because I really want those games.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jul 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baltimore is probably our toughest game of the year. Really could go either way. I just don’t believe in NE anymore, and we’ll probably split with Miami even though I can see us winning both. Minny is a tough game, they can shut down our run game, and Favre is still god (at least early in the season…). Denver is probably going to lose 10+ games this year, I don’t see them winning many against good teams. Green Bay is very unpredictable, this will be all about slowing down Rodgers. Should be fun to watch. I expect Detroit to be a better team this year than in the past, but not quite there yet. Cleveland is a yawner, and Houston is just a touch overrated. I think Cincy pulls out an upset, call me crazy. Chicago and Buffalo will fall hard. Pittsburgh is another question mark. Really depends on Polamalu’s health and the development of their receiving corps. I don’t believe in Mendenhall. He looked very indecisive at times last year. I think a halfway decent defensive front can turn him into a complete non-factor.

11-5 ? maybe even 12-4. Can’t wait for the season to start.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jul 18, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree 100% with Denver looking like a 6-win team….. and I wouldn’t be shocked if Cincy pulls off the upset either, that’ll be a tough game, I think we just match up well against them. But if Benson can break one or two big runs who knows.

They will certainly be motivated, that’s for damn sure, we ruined their season last year lol. Ocho already talking about the re-match with Revis this year too.

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by Matt Birch on Jul 18, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ur Jets prediction sux

We won’t lose to Miami in week 3….bet the house on that. We won’t lose to Houston at home. We won’t lose to GB at home. We won’t lose at Chicago.
We will probable lose one to Buff, we always do. We may get overconfident and lose one to either Cleveland or Detroit.
13-3 AFC East Champs and a bye (possibly homefield advantage through out but I’m not sure of that)

by Banquet Crasher on Jul 19, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

How about showing a little bit of respect. You have no idea what is going to happen, Matt’s predictions are logical, and at least he has tried to justify them. It’s easy to just say we won’t do this we won’t do that……I’m sure most said we wouldn’t lose to Atlanta, Buffalo or get swept by Miami last year.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 19, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Dave, I try not to even respond to it anymore.

Some people just like to hear themselves talk, nothing really cogent in his argument, not worth responding to.

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by Matt Birch on Jul 19, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

But don’t you see? He knows all and is telling you how wrong you are. Surely a hallmark thank you card is in order…

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jul 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

True enough, just don’t like seeing unwarranted unjustified criticism of something that has taken someone a lot of time to put together.

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by David_Wyatt on Jul 20, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense. Truthfully, whether or not I agree with you guys on any given topic, I do (as I’m sure most of the people who frequent this site do) appreciate the work you guys put in on it.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jul 20, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the site

thank you for your positive contributions.

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by Matt Birch on Jul 19, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

NE

I agree with a split with NE, but I think you’re off in your assessment of their defense. The ‘old and slow’ defense from a couple years ago is gone; every starter of theirs is now under 30. Their biggest problem is no longer age; now it is inexperience and lack of leaders like Bruschi, Harrison, McGinest and Harrison.

Also not sure how you figure their DL is injury-riddled either. I think Wilfork missed a few games last year, but I don’t think that’s all that unusual for an NFL lineman – not enough to say their entire line is injury riddled.

by HughC on Jul 19, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

the Pats D may be younger…they’re just not that good. the Ravens (hardly the league’s most explosive offense) shredded that D like they were a high school team. the mythology of Belichick is dead. Jets sweep.

by ghost of Darko on Jul 22, 2010 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I hope you’re right. I just thought Matt’s reasoning was flawed; I don’t see how Matt would come to the conclusion that they have an “aging injury-riddled d-line.”

Baltimore absolutely hammered them in the playoffs, no doubt. My concern is that we’re all putting too much stock into one game. Their heads didn’t seem to be into it; it was as if they knew that without Welker, there was no way they were going to go far into the playoffs. All teams have a bad game, they just had theirs at the worst possible time, in the playoffs. Looking at a larger sample size, 16 games, let’s not forget they still finished with ten wins – more than the Jets had – and ranked 5th in points allowed and 6th in points scored.

I just think we may be getting a bit overconfident. To me it’s premature to write any team off because of one game. They haven’t had a losing season in ten years, which was also the last time we swept them. Hopefully you are correct and the Jets sweep, but I’ll wait to declare them dead when I see a losing season rather than just one loss. They sure didn’t look dead to me when they played the Jets the 2nd time last year.

by HughC on Jul 22, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brady goes down in game 1 & they post an 11-5 season. now you suggest the Pats were so dismayed by losing Wes Welker the laid down at home in the playoffs…? more likely, they just don’t have the personnel to compete. as to sample size, when’s the last time a team took a postseason home beat down & came back stronger the next year?

I think the uber-shrewd Belichick has out-thought himself shedding so many front line defensive players while stock piling draft picks. in theory, this works, but their recent drafts haven’t panned out. Sanchez gave the Pats that 2nd game last year. I don’t think he’s that guy this year.

by ghost of Darko on Jul 24, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

color me crazy

Matt – thanks for putting this together. I suspect you’re secretly more optimistic about the Jets’ record than you’re letting on. I say 14-2 with the losses coming to MIN & MIA.

the Ravens D ain’t what it used to be and their O is still a work in progress. I’m not sold on Flacco & their receivers. the Patriots are done. they were thoroughly demolished at home in the playoffs by a Ravens team which is neither as fast nor as physical as the Jets. the Bears will be a disaster this year: the D is slipping & Martz’ pass-wacky system run by Cutler in Soldier Field in December…good luck with that, Bear fans. Houston is not ready to win a big game at the Jets.

by ghost of Darko on Jul 22, 2010 4:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that 11-5 season with Cassel was smoke and mirrors; they had a ridiculously easy schedule that season (as did the rest of the division) going against the two worst divisions – the AFC West and NFC West.

Beyond that, I’ll agree that it is very rare for a team to come back from a bad playoff loss one year and win it all the next season. The last I can think of off the top of my head is Tampa Bay getting crushed by the Eagles, then beating the Raiders in the SB the next year. If I looked I bet I could find plenty of examples of teams coming back two years later though. I think New England is in a rebuilding year – just like last year – but I’m hesitant to call them done. To me ‘done’ is a team that goes through several mediocre years after their success (Rams, Raiders, etc.) I’m guessing they’ll be about 8-8 or 9-7 this year, then right back to another 10-win season in 2011.

Maybe I’m being overly cautious, just not ready to declare them dead yet. Like I said, I’ll believe it when I see it. Every year for the last decade I’ve been hearing they’re dead and they keep coming back, just like Michael Meyers in Halloween.

by HughC on Jul 25, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Hugh – your points are well made regarding the divisional matchups during the Cassel season. nevertheless, it was an impressive performance given their QB never started a game in college, let alone the NFL. (the Testaverde snapped-achilles Jets didn’t pull that off.)

that Tampa team had several years of NFC championship road losses before changing coaches en route to their SB win. the Pats have no such regime change and, more importantly, have been to the top several times and have shed most of the veteran core that has won a title. if there was a single characteristic which defined the Pats in the heyday it’s tenacity. there was very little of that on display against the Ravens, and they were booed off the field at home. this season will be a real test of character for their organization and, in my opinion, I think this is the year when all those years organizational disloyalty toward the players comes back to haunt them.

by ghost of Darko on Jul 26, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop doubting the jets secondary

all of your losses come against teams with a strong WR corps but that’s exactly what the Jets built on this offseason.

by nbaaktion08 on Jul 30, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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