Florio Writes Nonsensical Article
by John B on Jun 3, 2010 10:10 PM EDT
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PrintWhile I'm aware the title of this post could have just as easily been "Water Is Wet," Mike Florio earns a shutout today for an article ridiculous by even his standards.
Last decade, the Redskins had a habit of giving big money to free-agent players from other teams, while ignoring the home-grown draft picks who became good players.
And the home-grown draft picks who became good players noticed.
Though the Redskins have changed their ways, the phenomenon has begun to invade New York. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the current contract disputes involving cornerback Darrelle Revis and center Nick Mangold flow directly from the team's reluctance to take care of players it drafted, at a time when plenty of money has been given away to strangers.
So we begin with the the asinine Redskins comparison even though there is no merit to it. I've harped on that so many times it's not worth discussing again. Let's go beyond it, though. Exactly what "draft picks who became good players" did the Redskins let go? Can he name one in the past five years? The Redskins have been terrible drafters. I'm not sure of any player they have picked on Revis' or Mangold's level.
Complicating matters is a growing line of Jets players who believe that promises were made but not honored by the front office. It started in recent years with guard Pete Kendall and continued with guard Brandon Moore, tight end Chris Baker, receiver Laveranues Coles, and running back Leon Washington. Now, Revis, Mangold, linebacker Davis Harris, and left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson find themselves, we're told, in the same boat. Each has been advised, in some form or another, that the team will take care of him, and to date none has received a new deal.
Kendall? Florio has a point there. The Jets were cheap there, and it cost them.
How about the other players? We have one guy the team gave a new contract before last season, thereby honoring that promise. The other two we so productive after leaving New York, their new teams cut them after one season. That's some great proof, Florio. Isn't that more like a demonstration sound decision making by a front office?
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I guess we are suppossed to keep every player that underperforms or has serious injuries from now on, because they are JETS. I mean you have to be crazy if you think leaders in the league at their respective positions are not gonna get deals done. I mean if we gave Revis 100 mil contract and he was horrible for the rest of his career, Florio wouldnt be the first guy saying they were dumb for paying that much. Relax it is a business, Chris Johnson doesnt have a deal either, on a team with no other big stars to sign and consider for the next year, but I guess that Titans are savvy and the Jets are cheap.
Wow, what a load of crap
What big money free agent we have bought in the last one. two, or even five years. Brett Favre came in a trade. Big Jenks came as a free agent, but we did not roll up the brinks truck for him. I really believe people are jealous of the Jets organization. The front office has made some shrewd moves, moves that will make us winners for years to come. Then we have done all this spending at the expense of our great draft picks? This article is hog wash.
^^This
What big contract did we dish out this off-season? Pool and JT were acquired for peanuts. LD? I don’t like his contract but its not like we broke the bank for him, and his contract isn’t preventing us from signing anybody else.
My only beef Tanny is him promising to deal with Revis this summer when he didn’t have to. He could have just bought his last 2 years and dealt with Mangold, Harris and Brick; then he could have come back to Revis. But since he promised Revis when Revis has all the leverage in the world, now he has to deal with him first. And Revis is going to break the bank. Not only that, but you have to make sure he’s happy without being too happy that the tone is set for dealing with the other guys.
So.. you think there is no merrit to the original story?
Cmon.. homerism aside you really think there is no story here?
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !
All homerism, jokes, and "anything you can think of aside,"
There is no merit to this story. You’ve got to look at what the Redskins did, and then see what the Jets have accomplished here. We didn’t go and sign ANYBODY to ridiculous contracts, or trade the future to get them. Front office has built a team. End of story.
In regards to Revis, Harris and Mangold, they are top notch in what they do in this league… you can’t be serious to think that this thing was going to get done right away. Jets are all about strategy, and they don’t want to be cornered in throwing money away, best CB or not. They are going to take as much time necessary to figure out the best way to pay this guy without damaging their relationship with the other players when they need to sit down and dole out money for them as well. The story is crap.
And another thing, when you have a couple, let alone the magnitude of players that we have on this team, you can’t just dish out money just because. There is still a business side to it. Being that a cap year WILL come back, you don’t want to put yourself in a predicament come next season (2011-12). With that said, it’s going to take time. Unfortunately, these writers need to write stories, hence this debacle and many others like it about football floating around.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
I guess we can’t all have a Ronnie Brown on our team, who we can continually make one of the most underpayed players at their position while the continually outperform their contract.
How about you tell Parcells to stop cheating the best player on the team, while paying outsiders the big money.
by Vaughn Parker on Jun 4, 2010 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was a reply to phins fan.
by Vaughn Parker on Jun 4, 2010 9:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the current contract disputes involving cornerback Darrelle Revis and center Nick Mangold flow directly from the team’s reluctance to take care of players it drafted, at a time when plenty of money has been given away to strangers.”
Cromartie – Playing for a new contract. No new money. Cost – 3rd round pick 2011. 2010 salary $1.7m
Holmes – Playing for a new contract. No new money. Cost – 5th round pick 2010. 2010 salary $630 k
Edwards – Signed 1 year tender. Cost – Stcukey, Trunsik, 3rd and 5th round picks. 2010 salary $6.1m
Tomlinson- Contract two years $5.1m. 2010 salary $2.5m
Taylor – Contract two years for $13m. 2010 salary $3.75(with incentives).* (2011 10 million dollar roster bonus
which will not likely be exorcised, essentially one year deal)
Pool – Contract one year $1.3 m.
TOTAL SALARY = 2010 $15.98 m 2011 $2.6m COST = two 3rd rnd picks, two 5th rnd picks, two marginal players
To put this in perspective look at what The Dolphins got for two 2nd round picks and $90.5m over the next five years.
Dansby and Marshall.
I’d rather have Tanny doing my grocery shopping! 6 very good players, 4 former pro bowlers, Two hall of famer, 1 SB mvp and all holes filled for less money in 2010 than Miami will pay for both of there pick ups! I’m not making a statement on the quality of Dansby and Marshall as i think they are both good, but I am pointing out that the Jets moves equate to better value and fiscal responsibility. Contrary to what Florio wrote, Plenty money has not been given to strangers. I don’t think Revis, Harris, Mangold or Brick want to be treated like any of the guys we signed or traded for. The Jets have basically said to Holmes, Edwards, Cromartie and Pool, “Play for your pay.” And told JT, “Its one and done.” LT could get two years but as we saw with TJ, we will walk away from $2.6 mil.
The way they handled Cotch and Rhodes shows what they will do for home grown talent but I guess hed missed how those guys got the contracts they wanted and deserved. We keep the valuables and cut the undeserved or unproductive.
by george JETson on Jun 4, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I don't think it could be explained any better than that. +1
The only regert in all this is that you wasted your time typing in response to the nonsensical blabbing of a moron who calls himself a journalist. This guy is the Richard Bey of blog writing. With the exception of his ability to miss quote and bend facts to fit his ramblings, he has no talent for writing what-so-ever. His soul purpose is to insite outrage with incendiary comments. Florio would rather get off on peoples negative reactions to his writings rather then author something thats based in fact and in turn, less noticeable.
While posting this morons article on this site is bound to only increase his ego, I give all the credit in the world to GGN for focusing on the reporting of UDFA performance and stories of the like that don’t get this site noticed as much but maintain it’s integrity.
by colinyoung on Jun 4, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Big differnce
All the guys you mentioned are 1 year deals and you won’t be able to renew them all next year when the cap comes back into play…Miami decided to lock up proven good players for the next 5 years making those spots not a issue..(given Marshall stays on the right track)…Both guys deserved to get paid big because they are proven performers year after year…All of those guys production slipped last year minus Holmes you can say…So I guess if your going for a quick fix fine you won BUT if Holmes or Edwards don’t re-sign your back to where you started…while Miami has playmakers for the net 5 years lmao
by afceast on Jun 4, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn’t knocking the Phins players or approach. In fact I said I think they are both good. The article implies that the Jets are free spenders with the new guys and cheap with there own stars. I used the Dolphins to illustrate how frugal the Jets were with new guys in comparison to a team that also made big moves. I’m not saying the Jets approach is better than the Dolphins, but anybody with a brain would say they are not opening up their wallets to the new guys. If Edwards or Cromartie or Holmes has a big year they could be playing through the nose, but with the risk they contain you can’t accuse them of splurging. Which was the whole point of the post.
Now, do you honestly think that we will have a problem signing one of these guys? We did all these moves with restrictions on us. Even a hated foe would have to say that players look like they want to play here. LT could have played with Farve for more. Sharper was practically begging to play for us, publicly mentioning us. The Profile of the Jets is high right now. Miami lost the 2014 SB to us. I didn’t here any player dying to play there. HBO is filming Miami. Without the restrictions we could have signed almost anybody, we’re hot right now.
If Braylon acts like the a-hole that got benched last year in the middle of a playoff race or gets another teamate killed or gets that 1 year ban he has on the horizon, (just like Holmes), will you still be laughing your a$$ off? Or bitching that you can’t trade him and your cap is F**ked?
by george JETson on Jun 5, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess What?
There is a 150% chance that there will be no 2011 season. Probably a great time for a quick fix, you think?
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