Shaun Ellis Doesn't Get a New Deal
by John B on May 14, 2010 8:01 AM EDT
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PrintShaun Ellis wants a new contract, but the Jets aren't about to extend his current deal.
The 32-year-old defensive end, the team's longest-tenured player, is uncertain about his future with the Jets after asking for and being denied a contract extension. He told The Associated Press on Thursday that he's unsure if he'll even be with the team when the season begins in four months.
"I don't know," Ellis said. "I think so. Well, I hope so. You never know what they're thinking up there. You've just got to roll with it. We try to control our own fate, but we really can't."
Ellis is entering the final year of his contract, and said the team cited its policy of having its older veterans play out their deals.
"Considering everything, I want to be here and I hope things get worked out," he said, "but it seems like they won't, to be truthful."
I'm not sure how popular this will be considering Ellis' status as longest tenured Jet, his high level of play, and his status as a locker room leader. I think it is the right one, though. Players are year to year in the NFL once they hit their 30's. It's important to pay guys for what they will do in the future, not what they have done in the past. Let Ellis play the season out, and see what his level of play is. Give him a little extra motivation by having him play for a new contract.
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Yes, but not for more than 2 years, with maybe an option for a 3rd year.
And I’m sure he’d be looking for plenty of guaranteed money, but you’d have to sit him down and tell him the only way he’s getting the extension it’s got more incentives than guaranteed money.
We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.
by psuwxman on May 14, 2010 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Keep Ellis
This goes far beyond the contract extension. Rumors are the Jets actually tried to trade him. He, even at age 33, is still the most productive(56 tackles 6.5 sacks) DE on the Jets. Moving him makes no sense. You gave all this guaranteed money to Vernon Gholston for what he will be able to do(play OLB and get QB sacks)and he production was non-existant, so you had to move him to DE. The man couldn’t get to the QB with a GPS and road map, but you want to keep him and get rid of a player who has produced. I would never believe either Rex or Mike T were stupid, but if they let him go before the season, I would have to re-think my position.
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If you’re going to stick it to the fans, you need to stick it to the players, and make them park really far away from the lawyers office.
Ugh.
This sickens me. Here’s a guy who at 32 hasn’t lost a god damned thing. Sure, his production could fall off a cliff at any moment, but this is a team with deep pockets. It really pisses me off that we’re basically slapping him in the face. This is different from telling Kendall/TJ/Faneca to piss off—Ellis is a guy who gave his all for this team for a whole decade, who still kicks ass, is the best DE on the team and has been one of the best 3-4 DEs for the past half-decade… How? How are you gonna let him go? Especially if he’s thinking about not coming back this year, you think other teams wouldn’t LOVE to have him? Who would we start in his place? Gholston? DeVito, sure he’s been good in rotation but can he handle having the majority of the snaps? We haven’t seen anything Pitoitua either. This is so so so so so so stupid. Give him at least 2 years. If it was up to me, I’d sign him till he was 40, I don’t care. Most underappreciated guy on the team, seriously. ughguhgruguh
Shameful
Couldn’t. Agree. More. Besides, Douglas is gone and we didn’t address d-line in FA or the draft! Who the hell is gonna play d-line? I’ll give anybody 2-1 odds Big Jenks will not play the whole season. How about rushing the quarterback? Oh that’s right, we got Jason Taylor who’s three years older. The guys we’ve thrown away already aren’t just fan favorites, they are productive players, so no wonder Ellis wants some security. They should do right by Ellis, who solidifies the line, and is a career Jet who plays hurt. Show the man some gratitude.
by nationalist88 on May 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the Big Cat, but it’s kinda tough to give him an extension at his age. Take Mo Lewis as an example. As much as I loved the guy, he was playing well one year and the next he was just suddenly too old.
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I've tried to email Revis, but it just shuts down my computer.
In Rod we trust!
I'm starting to get some funny feelings....
I think there is a fine line between treating football as a business, and treating people like human beings… On one hand you have Rex treating these guys like human beings and telling them to have fun, but on the other hand you have Tanny treating every player except Sanchez as pawns and underplaying their value on and OFF the field. Everyone put their trust into the system, but the system has no room for reward.
Word.
by Jerricho ToonWalker on May 14, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions
This is what I'm afraid of too
I mean, if it’s starting to seem a little fishy to us, imagine what some players in that locker room must be thinking. Especially the vets.
We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.
This is all because of Faneca
Sometimes, to save a million, these teams cause major problems.. this is a great example of how to spook a locker room full of veterans.
Jones was done once he starting whining about his contract and we drafted Greene to replace him. Leon was done when his wife and agent poisoned the pool. But there really hasnt been any reported grumblings from/about Faneca, he got cut, and now every vet on the team is nervous…. Especially Mangold.
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Not because of Faneca, I mean because of the way the Jets treated Faneca.
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No kidding. Cutting him?? That’s just stupid. And their brilliant scheme is to replace him with a rookie. They’re paying Faneca 5 mil ANYWAY, why not shell out the extra 2 mil to keep him on the roster? Oh well, it’s not like the guy was a part of the best o-line in the NFL or anything…. Oh wait.
by nationalist88 on May 14, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed! and is the evaluation process a little hypocritical?
“Players are year to year in the NFL once they hit their 30’s. It’s important to pay guys for what they will do in the future, not what they have done in the past.”
So how do you justify teams always mentioning a down year of a player to lower the price tag the next year, but then list the age of a player as a negative when he comes off a career year?
Word.
by Jerricho ToonWalker on May 14, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait & See
See how he plays this year and evaluate his worth at seasons end. if he plays well give him a 1yr with a option for a 2nd year. He deserves more consideration since he has been here and played well for us.
You know, I hear this all the time in the media about the Jets and what it means to the locker room, ( and not just from the local media). If we spooked our locker room and vets what did Miami do to theirs. Taylor and Zach Thomas were treated like dirty whores who slept with Lawrence Taylor! There has been the national media stories about how they are messing up their locker room by treating contributing vets like crap. Porter and JT. It is always brought up how we treated poor Leon. He gave up a leg! He was a pro bowl RB! STOP! He was NOT a pro bowl RB, he WAS a pro bowl RETURNER and a BACKUP RB who hired a fool for and agent and turned down a good offer. We did right by J CO and Rhodes and we will do right by Revis, Mangold, DBrick and Mangold. Hopefully Ellis, and Harris. But with Holmes, Cromartie and Edwards possibly due, someone will be left out. That’s football, not bad, untrustworthy management. Give the title to the Dolphins, they actually deserve it.
Ellis is going to have to wait until after the season.
Revis, Mangold and Harris all deserve a seat at the table before Ellis. And although he had a decent year last year, thats decent, he didn’t exactly light up the world. In fact, he’s underperformed for most of his tenure here. As far as Im concerned he can go F himself for casually implying that he might not be with the team.
Wow, kinda harsh, but I tend to agree with you. I love Ellis, but he is still a plug and play end, he is real good, and this year we need him for sure. But imagine if we drafted a 3-4 end he wouldn’t be that much of a commodity.
Anyway all of the cuts have been reasonable, players who were underperforming, going to. We should be happy that hopefully this will mean securing 7 big FAs. Mangold, Revis, and Harris are huge priorities.
by Vaughn Parker on May 14, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Honestly I don’t understand why players and fans should be confused. 2-4 of our big time young players want max deals. Where is that money gonna come from. Not saying the Jets are broke, but they can’t pay everyone, and at the same time they could be in trouble just trying to keep all of the current aquired talent. Their has to be liabilities, even if we don’t like it.
by Vaughn Parker on May 14, 2010 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Be careful guys,...
…as I am sure the media will soon be beating us in the head with the fact that S Ellis was a Pro Bowler last year! Though I don’t know why that means anything, Everyone was a pro bowler last year! I think me and Crackback were alternates!
by george JETson on May 14, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The last sentence is a little harsh, but c’mon people, it’s not like he’s a free agent automatically because they won’t give him an EXTENSION. He’s under contract this year and like John said, players are year to year, and truly, not even only after their 30’s. I’m not sure, but other than talk about certain players getting an extension, I don’t believe any have gotten one this off-season. Like was posted in a FanShot about an extension for Mangold.
Jets owner Woody Johnson admitted that signing C Nick Mangold to a long-term contract will be difficult this offseason.
Both sides want to get something done — Mangold is the best center in the NFL and not complaining publicly about his contract — but rules in the uncapped year make an extension unlikely. “Within those rules, we’re trying to do the best job we can,” said Johnson. “He’s one of our guys.”
Source: Newark Star-Ledger’
I can’t see why this isn’t the case for anybody, Ellis included.
Go Jets
Go Devils
Yeah maybe the last sentence was harsh. But F him anyway. He’s been around the block. He knew what he was saying and the ramifications of it. He knows the odds of him getting a contract from ANY team this summer, not just the Jets, is slim to none. He took this opportunity to stir up some shit because he is/was being shopped.
So F Shaun Ellis for being a whiny cry-baby.
He’s taking this a lot better than I would, I can tell you that. The guy plays his heart out for this team, and he’s not crying when he’s injured, he’s on the field playing. So show him the same loyalty he’s shown the Jets, and give hime some security. Pretend like we appreciate what he’s done for this team.
by nationalist88 on May 14, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
^^THAT! Whiny crybaby my ass, Crack (get it lol)—this is a guy who played with a broken hand and used the damn thing like a meatclub anyway. As far as underperforming, I dunno has he really? He’s always been stout against the run and manages to get more sacks than most DEs in 3-4 defenses do year in and year out. And he had a couple of double-digit sack counts back when we were in a 4-3. And all as a strong-side DE to boot. He’s not Reggie White or even Michael Strahan obviously but the dude has done about as solid a job as any guy at his position for the length of his career.
In his ten year career Ellis had 10+ sacks only twice. In six of those years he had 6.5 sacks or less. And he’s only been in a 3-4 for 3 years. He’s the poster child of mediocrity.
His 10-sack seasons came when the Jets played a four man front, which allows DE’s substantially more QB pressures than the 3-4 he’s been playing for most of his career. Plus, he’s been a strong side rusher, because Abraham was gobbling up most of the sacks rushing the blind side. 6 sacks playing 3-4 end is well above average, not mediocre, because LB’s are sent after the QB, not linemen. And what difference does it make if he’s 33 if he hasn’t lost a step? Washed up has-beens like Taylor and Tomlinson (not to mention never-will-be’s like McKnight) who’ve never worn green get more love than a career Jets veteran who’s been a stud for ten years. Unbelievable.
by nationalist88 on May 14, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Next Year
I’d like to keep him around so i think it would be fair for him to play for his next contract. We have so much young talent that means to be locked up & id rather have them taken care of than a player thats toward the end of their career.
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