NFL Draft Day Three Discussion Thread
by John B on Apr 24, 2010 9:21 AM EDT
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PrintThis is a thread for those of us diehards who got up early on Saturday morning to see how the end of the Draft unfolds. There are still a lot of really good players on the board as we get set to begin the fourth round. Perhaps Mike will move up, but there may be no need. The Jets stayed put in the first two rounds and wound up with excellent players.
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With the release of Faneca I wouldn't be surprised if we trade up in the 4th to get another OL
say Campbell or stay put and take some one like Beadles.
Haha was just about to post the same thing. That would make some sense. But Cambell is so raw, can he plug and play at RT?
I don’t think so.
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Is there any shot he re-works his contract and comes back?
If he does it would send a powerful message to the rest of the team. Here’s a HOFer, 9-time Pro Bowler, Superbowl champion taking a pay cut to be part of this.
Sapp, Wootton, Thomas, Jones,Watson
If we come away with one of those today, it will be a big success
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I guess teams really don’t like Griffen
by chrebetsthebet on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
he said he tried to move up in the 2nd, then he tried to move down, and he also tried to get into the 3rd but said teams just weren’t interested in what they had to offer
by chrebetsthebet on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I told you Everson Griffen was the next Vernon Gholston, not surprised in the slightest he has dropped this far
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Kiper had him going to us in the first round! I’m glad he is drafting for us
by chrebetsthebet on Apr 24, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Who Griffin? not a chance. JPP maybe
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Thought VG was not a bad player, had a good work ethic, attitude was fine, had some issues but thought we could coach him up……learn from your mistakes.
Griffen has the same issues, but he also has a horrible attitude and work ethic, not a chance I would touch him. And 32 teams have already passed on him 3 times, that speaks volumes. Apparently his interviews were terrible, completely arrogant.
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I really feel, Kyle Wilson was the best CB behind Haden. Hes gonna be awsome!
Curtis "my favorite" Martin - 1 of the best!
some teams had him rated higher, i heard
by chrebetsthebet on Apr 24, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Great fit for us as a pure cover, but Haden will come out as the best overall IMO
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He’s a good player, I don’t personally understand it, but sometimes teams just fall in love with a guy who just fits the coaching staff
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by David_Wyatt on Apr 24, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
the only knock i have been reading about Wilson is that he gets beat deep consistently
Haden was rated #1 because he didn’t allow one TD during his time at Florida
by chrebetsthebet on Apr 24, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Double pump works well on Wilson, but he will learn over time, nobody is perfect coming out of college, not even Suh
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You're right...
but they did say that Wilson is a HUGE GAMBLER. He consistently baits that QB in hopes of recovering for an interception. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t, hence him getting beat deep.
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heard that too.
i mean 4.45 and can hit, i like him a lot
Curtis "my favorite" Martin - 1 of the best!
i thought Haynsworth was gonna get moved, but i guess not
Curtis "my favorite" Martin - 1 of the best!
Let’s see who we traded Rhodes for today
by chrebetsthebet on Apr 24, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
Joe McKnight is still on the board. Reggie Bush is killing him.
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OMG
I didn’t even realize that.
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Not that Dwyers small, I think he just has a bit more speed than the other two, and is a bit more well rounded. Blount and Dixon are both better between the tackles though.
Look at that board, can you honestly believe we are in the 4th round? there is so much talent still there
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Don’t the Rams already have a speed receiver?
by chrebetsthebet on Apr 24, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions
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I’m getting too anxious over this. So much talent still left on the board to choose from… I really can’t believe that we’re on the third day of the draft, Round 4.
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Eagles could be in play for a trade with the thousand picks they have in this round. Maybe Leon to replace Westbrook.
I wouldn’t mind that, and I don’t think we have to replace him with Wilson handeling return duties. We can put Woodhead back at RB and leave him as the speed option out of the backfield.
We can put Woodhead back at RB and leave him as the speed option out of the backfield.
I don’t want Woodhead playing any prominent role next year. I’ve been very unimpressed by what I have seen.
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I dont know, I still don’t think we’ve had a long enough look at him at RB, I think WR was a stupid move. I remember back to the pre-season game against the Eagles last year, he looked amazing.
He’s good for highlights, not a good fit for the draft.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
With a guy like Campbell still there, it seems like teams are finally starting to wise up and not putting value on Combine numbers.
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Raiders take Campbell
You know what? This is the spot for a raw high upside pick.
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I REALLY like what the Raiders have done.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s a film study freak, he is going to change the whole attitude there. Perfect fit.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Should the Jets trade to get Ricky Sapp or wait and see if he’s still available?
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Apr 24, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
Wait and see
They’ve been doing it all weekend, and somebody good has fallen.
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Not any great values at safety left, at least for round 4.
Well unless they are considering converting Watson.
trade!
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
yea Joe McKnight rocks
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Crackback, are you ok?
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Wow...
well that was from left field…
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Well Leon’s definitely gone. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us deal him for another fourth rounder
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I’ll admit I was a bit shocked, but I think I’ll be ok with this.
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McKnight has a ton of potential, the only way I like it however is if Leon is gone very soon, and we get back into this 4th to take Sapp or Watson
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Not the kind of back we wanted, though.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’s the third down, pass catching kind of back.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
+1,000,000,000
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
They said he was solid, shiffty just not explosive and unlikely to break the big one. Don’t se how that replaces LW unless they don’t think LW regains his speed.
by george JETson on Apr 24, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I will send you guys a write-up on McKnight in the coming days
As a Jets fan I am, lets say intrigued with this pick…
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
Dang...
we MUST get back in this draft… too much talent left on the stinking board!
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Really? To me that’s the ideal fit. He’s not very fast, but he’s very good working in traffic and getting off blocks.
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I like him as more of a weak-side OLB.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
WHOA....
Somebody tell me where Kirk Morrison went? Did he really go to Jacksonville???
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It is sooo much fun saying....
Release the Kracken!!!! But does anyone think will we get production from VG?
If it smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck … it just might be a BUST!
For those who think that VG will be a good 3-4 DE YOU ARE SO WRONG!
*As of right now he is too small and can’t hold the point.
*He won’t command a double team
*He is playing an non-glorified position with minimal statistical impact AND wont be motivated
No, not having a selection in this draft until the 7th with this depth is a horrible thing.
Leon needs to go and we need to get back in this draft.
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by David_Wyatt on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys are killing me...
VG isn’t a bust. I believe this kid will be good playing in his proper position. This dude will be better on the line, end of story. And I wouldn’t call anyone a bust if your first season was playing under a bogus coach like Mangini. Thee was nothing genius about that dude, hated that name peeps gave him.
Give him this year before calling him a bust. I won’t believe it until this year is over and he still has no sacks.
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We DID put him on the line – still marginal production.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
oh please...
you call that putting him on the line? He wasn’t going to produce in a couple of games on the line. He’ll get better
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
He wont be motivated. He has his money. He is playing a 3-4 DE, a boring position with very little chance of getting to the QB with everyone rex brings. He is purely a 4-3 DE
Maybe he'll push the pocket better....
who knows.
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
And I wouldn’t call anyone a bust if your first season was playing under a bogus coach like Mangini.
It didn’t hurt Mangold and Revis.
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Dayum it!!!! JB!!!!
don’t copy and paste me especially if you’re going to say I’m wrong. We’re out of the draft, and they keep talking about him being a bust… I’m a little emotional right now cause this is insinuating a waste of a pick… *sniff.
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
sigh...
my bad. I just want to win the superbowl and play madden with confidence.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
One 4th round pick is not going to determine if we win a Superbowl or not.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
.....
I’ll make you eat those words if McKnight scores the winning touchdown in the Super bowl. lol. That would be funny, I will make a fanpost just for you and everything. I love this site.
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
I think people are overreacting a bit. A lot of people thought Leon was a question mark. McKnight is the new Leon. If we don’t add anybody else, we have a Super Bowl caliber team and no weaknesses.
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Yeah. He started in 4 or 5 games and didn’t last.
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what you mean. We just drafted depth at the position he plays.
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I guess.
Looks like we’re opening it up and puttingthe ball in Sanchez’s hands a lot more this year.
And I think people are going a little overboard calling Greene an injury risk. Dude broke a rib against the Colts. It was kind of a fluke play.
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very true.
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
Besides, Thaddeus GIbson is the second most badass name in the draft, behind HOUSE OF SPEARS>
by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Think the Steelers plan for their secondary is to have Polamalu cover everyone …
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Apr 24, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Cam Thomas?
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
I was just about to type that...
to the Cowboys of all teams… ugh. He could have been a beast in our D.
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
The Jets can still trade Leon for a couple of late picks, maybe a fith and a seven. I hope they get that much for him now.
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Im confused please help me god
Man after reading everything about the depth on the defensive side of the ball with safties LB’s and DL. We get a CB a OL and a RB????
We could use Wilson in so many ways and needed depth and future in the OL, plus Mcknight is a huge potential guy, learning from LT he could become a little like him.
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Wilson was one of the best picks of the first round, and CB was our biggest need.
Ducasse was also a huge value pick where we got him, and a huge need with them releasing Faneca.
Our OLB/DE need has been greatly over hyped, especially OLB with the signing of Taylor.
McKnight was the only questionable pick I think we made
Smart of them
they’re making the most of their picks this year.
He never would have fell to us in the late sixth.
5th is painful to watch
all the good players flying off the board while we gotta wait.
Still worth Santonio if you ask me, though.
Yeah but is there anybody there with the value of 80 recs, 1200 yrds and who is a guaranteed big game player,(SB MVP with the catch to win it in the last secs)?
by george JETson on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
well....
certainly looks like were done here with our 7th round pick. maybe we get a good kicker
YES,
A PICK!!! 139
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
LOL
FB, JOHN CONNER
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
Yup....
Leon, and 236 to the Seahawks.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
I dont know if I can, he’s the best blocking FB in the draft but here now don’t love the pick, like the player don’t love the pick
John Conner defeated the Terminator
Can’t draft anyone better
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
thanks for the memories Leon
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Unless we make another trade, maybe Clowny and somebody else, this draft is over for the Jets. Dont know how or why we traded away the seventh. Is really a WTF moment. But in Rex and Mike T I trust so let it be.
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We'll address Kicker...
undrafted.
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You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference.
Rex and Tanny have really changed the attitude around here...
In a Defensive Draft full of ends tackles and pass rushers, we took 3 OFF players and a corner. If this happened in the past there wouldn’t be a ledge big enough to hold all of us! Lets go J-E-T-S!!
Time to start searching for the next Chrebet, (UDFA stud). Are there ever any defensive players that have been solid to good that went undrafted and signed as a UDFA?
Here comes the JUDGE!
You sir are the man!
by george JETson on Apr 24, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
In such a deep draft your supposed to trade down and gain more picks. we did the exact opposite. Now if this was a weaker draft clas, fine trade up, but not when there is so much talent still left on the board like Cam Thomas or Arthur jones.
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!!!!!!!!!
Tanny’s philosophy will always be, “Quality over Quantity”. You have to judge our draft picks on their value in correlation to where they were picked.
by george JETson on Apr 24, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
5th rnd value
We got S Holmes for our 5th. Seattle got LW coming off a gruesome leg break!
True. If he comes back at 80% of his former self it is still better than the other trades. I wouldn’t have traded a 5th grader for Ginn no less a 5th rounder! (Maybe its just hate for his 3 plays against us!)
Oh I think the Phins gave up on him way to soon, he was the one receiver they needed to keep (even if it was mostly on potential) when they got Marshall. And its not like he was that bad, considering he had Pennington most of his career who did not have the arm strength to take advantage of his speed.
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