Guys I Don't Like
I have told you about my guys. Now let's talk about guys you want to avoid like the plague. What players are you sure won't make it in the pros?
Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
Without ESPN, I think this guy would be a fifth round pick. Anytime I hear a phrase like, "rebuild his delivery" mentioned in the same sentence as a quarterback expected to go early, I consider it a red flag. What you have is a guy whose success came in an option system based on his power running. Even his advocates say his mechanics are woeful. He also isn't very accurate. In some ways, his success hindered his development. Teams were so afraid of his running that they loaded up inside, giving him wide open windows to hit receivers. He never had to develop pinpoint accuracy. I'm also afraid of a guy who seeks contact and already has a concussion.
Yes, I know he is a great leader, a hard worker, and has top notch intangibles. So did Jason White. So did Ken Dorsey. So did Craig Krenzel. Just because ESPN personalities swooned over his every move doesn't make him the first guy to wear eye black, pump his fist, or give a speech to his teammates. He screams "major project." Tebow was a great college player, but he's a developmental player in the NFL.
I also don't buy the "he's a safe pick because he could move to tight end" logic. Having the prototypical size to play a position doesn't mean a guy will have success there. He would have to learn technique and the inner workings of the position from square one. How many converted quarterbacks really become top notch players at a receiver position? Antwaan Randle-El may be the best, and he's was a number three receiver in his prime.
Taylor Mays, S, USC
"He runs like a cornerback and hits like a linebacker." The problem is when he is running, he doesn't recognize the football and doesn't stick with receivers. When he's hitting, he isn't fundamentally sound. He makes highlight reel hits but doesn't wrap ball carriers enough. Mays is more of an athlete than a football player. You can dominate physically in college. Everybody is really athletic in the NFL.
Jevean Snead, QB, Ole Miss
I watched a lot of Ole Miss last year. I left almost every game with two thoughts. The first was Dexter McCluster is a playmaker. The second was Jevean Snead was horrible. He may have all of the physical tools, but Snead has none of the necessities of a good quarterback. He is very inaccurate, makes terrible decisions with the football, has poor mechanics, and panics in the face of a pass rush. He was arguably the most disappointing player on one of college football's biggest underachieving teams in 2009. Todd McShay is nuts to like this guy's potential.
Jason Paul-Pierre, DE, South Florida
I never like guys who get picked high for their athletic potential opposed to what they did on the field. Paul-Pierre put up one good season in a mediocre conference. He's way too risky to go as high as some team will choose him.
Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
I think character concerns get overblown when it comes to Draft prospects. People do irresponsible things in college. Heck, it's a part of college. There's irresponsible, though, and there's getting a DUI before the biggest game of the season like Dunlap. It shows a lack of dedication to team. I may not be high on Tebow's pro potential, but something tells me he was studying game film that night, and his sole focus was Alabama that week. Combine that with a questionable motor and an underachieving junior year, and there are enough red flags to make me want no part of the guy.
What guys do you want to avoid at all costs?
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I HOPE the Jets stay away from Taylor Mays! He’s been called the Vernon Gholston of Safetys. One Gholston is more than enough for me!
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I hate Tebow, seriously hate him. I mean when was the last time a QB from any Florida Colleges was any good. Let alone any QB from any Florida College that also won the Heisman. The only one I can think of would be Charlie Ward, but he was good on the Basketball Court, not on the football field.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
There was a little guy called Vinny
As much as I hate UM he won a Heisman, went to the NFL, had a long career and even took us to the AFC Championship game one year. Just sayin
^^^^this
And it pisses me off that he has no chance of ever getting into the Hall of Fame. P-F-R has a really good blog post about how he was actually pretty damn awesome and probably/definitely should get in: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=5449
So one QB in 20+ years? I forgot about Vinny and love him, but his draft year is almost ancient history.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
CJ Spiller and Jhavid Best
The Chris Johnson fad will remind everybody that although speed kills, fast doesn’t always equal good. This AL Davis mentality is going to hurt somebody early.
Think about this… Spiller is the same speed and weight as Leon, yet Leon is about 4 inches shorter. So, what does that mean? Leon has a much stockier build. Now if Leon is a little guy, and he’s stockier than Spiller, that tells me that if Spiller’s toe somehow holds up long enough for him to stay on the field that when he finally does take a real NFL hit he will get cracked in half.
Same goes for Best.
Best I definitely agree on, but Spiller does appear to have some special talent. Not quite Chris Johnson-esque talent, but he’s definitely a guy I’d trust to run the ball on a consistent basis at his size more than a guy like Reggie Bush for instance.
You’re gonna be disappointed, Crack. Spiller had better college numbers than Reggie Bush. And while Leon has great straight line speed, Spiller is far more agile, elusive, and cuts on a dime. He’s a tough runner and blocker for his size and has never missed a game due to injury. There’s a reason that Leon was a 4th round pick while Spiller is the top rated back in the country. He’s not a bust, he’s a beast.
by nationalist88 on Apr 22, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree on most of these, except for Mays. But even then, I’m only like lukewarm on Mays. Good list.
I’d add the two other big USC prospects in the draft this year (Charles whatsit the OT and Everson Griffen). I’ve always kinda thought that USC prospects are overrated… in fact last year is the only time I can remember that the big prospects all turned out to be pretty damn good. That had to be one of the best college linebacker corps of all time, really ._.
I’d also add Jimmy Clausen to my list (don’t kill me David). I just think that he’s gonna be an average/maybe slightly above average starter at his peak—and that’s not nearly enough for what looks to be a high or even mid first round pick. To be honest, he kinda sounds a lot like Kellen Clemens but with a weaker arm. Better coached, yes, and that gives him an advantage, but you can only be coached up so much, and you can’t coach a guy into getting a stronger arm. And to be honest, I REALLY slammed the book on him when I saw that Jon Gruden QB camp thingy with him and he blames the receiver on that AWFUL, AWFUL throw he makes into very obvious double coverage. Even if the WR ran the wrong route, that pass was gonna get picked the fuck off. But maybe more importantly, why the HELL would you throw your receiver under the bus like that? Why would you do that. Man up and take some responsibility for your stupid, terrible throw. It’s one thing to be a douchy guy—Rivers is a great QB—but not taking responsibility for your mistakes is on another level. I don’t remember Rivers calling out whoever it was that messed up the route on the Jim Leonhard interception in public like that.
I was watching Jon Gruden’s QB camp, and three of the four QBs didn’t seem like they had a great attitude to me. Tebow, Bradford and McCoy seemed defensive about the criticisms. But I liked how Clausen seemed open and took down notes. But I only saw one episode, so I maybe taking it out of context.
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I dunno, I saw it like… McCoy was like “gah I’m such a STINKIN’ idiot”, Tebow was his usual “hey I’m just a hard-workin’ god-fearin’ All-American guy ;D” and Bradford was all “derp :B”. Then we have Clausen being all surly and then Gruden calls his BS out and he’s like “o shi—” and puts his head down and writes down something. I dunno what he could have been writing down… “don’t throw a floater into double coverage”? C’mon.
“I never like guys who get picked high for their athletic potential opposed to what they did on the field.”
Hear, hear.
Oh, and I so WANT Tebow to get taken early. I’d like to see Miami or New England or Dallas or some other team I loathe take him. That would rule. Or, he could get sent to Jacksonville as its “savior.” That would rule too since… epic fail is waiting. That guy totally pisses me off.
i am a gator fan but i really dont see the hype in tebow he has quick feet tho so make him a HB OR FB hell even a TE lol
You know what though... that Denver situation is probably the perfect place for him to go
Kyle Orton’s a solid QB, not spectacular but he’s not gonna lose you games. Josh McDaniel is a good QB coach as far as I know and I’m sure he’ll be working closely with Tebow to get him ready to play and then down the road who knows really! He might actually be good! I think we all want to see Tebow fail because he’s been shoved down our throats so badly but who knows really! I mean, I doubt he amounts to anything but I’m just saying there’s a chance lol.

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