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Has Rex Ryan really become the cartoon villain of the NFL? or is the whole thing just a bunch of bored off-season hyperbole.....

Dolphin ESPN blogger Tim Graham wrote an interesting article yesterday about the New York Jets, and how they had now become the team to hate in the East, taking the title held for a long time by the New England Patriots

There has been a noticeable turn within the AFC East and perhaps the entire league when it comes to the most hated team. Based on reader feedback and the disdain expressed on sports-talk shows and message boards, the Jets have replaced the New England Patriots as the team opposing fans love to hate.

I found this interesting however because, in my experience here and just speaking to people in general, there is no shift, there is no intensified hatred towards the Jets. If anything opposing fans not from the AFC East seem to respect and like the personality of the Jets more than ever. No longer are they New York's little brother, who act tough but really never get anything done.

Can Bart Scott talk too much, sure....but all teams have a guy like that. Has Sanchez done anything to be the face of a hated franchise.....I guess animal rights activists might get on him for his hot dog stunt but not really. Who else is there? There is no hatred towards the Jets.....no more than usual anyway.

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In Graham's defense, he did go on to give the reason for this new found hatred, and it's as close to a compliment as you will get:

While the relatively dull Patriots bowed meekly from the first round of the playoffs, the Jets continued to churn out material upon which their detractors could harp. The ultimate AFC East putdown has changed from Spygate comments to snide remarks about Ryan's weight.

Of course, nobody would say a peep if the Jets weren't good. Being loathed means you're worth the bother.

It really is that basic. To be hated in a general sense, you have to be worth envying, and worth people taking the time out of their lives to make negative comments about you. I'm sure I speak for all Jets fans when I say, we don't really care if you like us or not, but we will make sure that you respect us. So is there a new found hatred towards the Jets? I haven't really witnessed it yet.

Ryan, the face of the Jets, became a chief NFL villain

It all stems from Rex, do opposing fans really have a problem with him saying that he believes he has a great football team, that the goal was to win a Superbowl. Is it that the players seem to be having fun, and winning? Football fans more than any other sports fan should enjoy a brash demeanour, after all were not playing skittles here, this is a violent sport, this is a put it all out on the line type sport. Why are fans so adverse to a coach who doesn't hide behind the PR system cowering, afraid to put one toe out of line, or say something that may give away a game plan.

The rookie head coach immediately was viewed as a blowhard for suggesting -- at his introductory news conference, no less -- he would take the Jets to a championship.

I'm not sure what people expected him to say "we're going to try really, really hard, but maybe we won't win"..... you're not going to get away with coming into New York and not predicting success. That's just not how it works. You talk big, and then you back it up. He talked big, and he backed it up. If there is a hatred towards the Jets, it glows green with envy.

We matter enough to be hated, we are good enough to be envied, and Rex Ryan is big enough to take it on his shoulders. Do you think it bothers anyone? Nothing bothers anyone when you are winning. Now we just need to take that next step, and I'm pretty sure the players are happy to be led by the NFL's new chief villain

"I'd rather be hated and have him leading us," Cotchery said, "than have to play against him."

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Fans of the Pats and Bills more so, but not really since they’ll always hate the Jets. I dunno, the Jets are a good team and with good teams comes a very mixed reaction around NFL fans. They become both loved and hated.

I think Rex Ryan’s mouth is what gets people about the Jets.

Before you ask why I'm a fan of both the Cowboys and Jets, I'll just say the answer is complicated and that it just turned out that way.

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by Grady90 on Apr 2, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe this is true in the division, but I get the impression around the rest of the league that people have a lot of respect for the Jets.

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by John B on Apr 2, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel the same way

The rest of the NFL still hates the Pats (even when they don’t do well, they are just the team everyone loves to hate).

by VinnyG917 on Apr 2, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, that’s the impression I get, although call me crazy, but I feel like the Patriots respect us more now than they have in a long time. They obviously still hate us, but there is definitely more respect there.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 2, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fo sho

The Jets aren’t their bitches anymore haha

Before you ask why I'm a fan of both the Cowboys and Jets, I'll just say the answer is complicated and that it just turned out that way.

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by Grady90 on Apr 2, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, it seems like every fan I talk to of other teams kind of envy our coach and playing style.

by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 2, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like Rex endeared himself to us, he probably turned some people the other way with all of his talk. For the most part though, I think the only people hating on us are the ones that were already hating on us. They just hate us more now.

by random122 on Apr 2, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I just want to say that I love Cotch. So under appreciated around the league and yet every Jet fan knows how clutch he really is. He put it perfectly, I’d rather be hated with Rex as our coach than to have to play against him

by airamerica11 on Apr 2, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember when he was struggling to get a game, not given a chance, because we were trying to get our 2nd rounds worth out of McCariens……Cotch has just been a great pro for years.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 2, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha oh the failed project of Justin McCariens. But that’s what I love about our team, we don’t hesitate to make bold moves even if some don’t work out.

by airamerica11 on Apr 2, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yer, that most definitely did not, where as the Miles Austin one, could have. It’s interesting how these things play out, but like you say, were not afraid to stand on the brink.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 2, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LOVE Rex Ryan.

I think he’s the best possible thing that could have happened to this team where they were at. They were clearly tired of Mangini’s shit, and Ryan was seriously a breath of fresh are and a shot of confidence that they needed.

And who doesn’t love a big talker? He’s supremely confident, but he’s not arrogant. It’s harmless. He’s not making personal attacks or saying other teams suck, he’s just going on about his own team. More power to him.

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by psuwxman on Apr 2, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s whats so frustrating, is that that Rex and the rest of the Jets are pegged as an arrogant bunch, when Rex has never said anything disrespectful.

by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 2, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like people say, it’s a fine line between arrogance and confidence, it’s sometimes hard to judge.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 2, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also like I was saying to some of my twitter peeps, it doesn’t matter if you like us, it doesn’t matter if you hate us, but we want you to respect us.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 2, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rex does say disrespectful things. If you say you’re better than the team you’re playing, then fans of the other team are going to hate you. If you say “you’ve gone past tougher guys than Channing Crowder on the way to a fight,” Dolphin fans are going to hate you. “not here to kiss Belichick’s rings” will anger Pats fans. I love every word of it, but if he were with another team I would think he’s arrogant and I would want his team to lose.

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by rxmeister on Apr 2, 2010 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

AFC East teams are always going to hate us, that’s a given. Fans may react that way, but I don’t think too many players really care, the whole Crowder thing was completely blown out of proportion, none of it is half as bad as some people like to make out. Saying you have a good time and you are going to win……hardly the material to be public enemy number 1.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 3, 2010 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I t hink its a little of both, actually.

I remeber there being more negativity at the beginning of last year, with the whole pre-season champs comments and our early season success. The whole team was particularly chirpy at that time too, which isn’t the most endearingthing to be if you want to appeal to outsiders.

But playoff time i think the pendulem swung the other way and everybody hopped on the underdog bandwagon. Plus I think we have an appealing stule of play. We have a hard-hitting, tough-nosed, stingy defense that loves to litz like crazy and hit the QBs; and a physical running game with a big play passing game on offense. We were a fun team to watch.

by Crackback on Apr 2, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

How do you think Hard Knocks is going to effect us? do you think it will endear us to people, or do you think it will further swing the momentum arrow to hate?

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 2, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if you are already a hater, you’re not going to change. But if you’re on the fence, or you have never really paid any attention to the Jets, you’ll want to fire your coach and go after Rex with a blank checkbook.

by Ryan Alfieri on Apr 2, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s probably good for a younger generation of fans as well, looking for a team to root for, being on prime-time tv could cultivate the next generation of mad Jets fans.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 2, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think nothing but good comes out it. I think it might have a big effect on the PR actually.

People are too affraid to say anything anymore. The way things are nowadays, its impossible to control the message. So why try? I think the Jets have figured this out to a certain extent. There may be some bulletin material here and there, but if you’re looking for that kind of thing its not hard to find anyway. For the most part, with like three news cycles per day it seems, things happen and are forgotten pretty quickly. So screw it, and just let it fly instead of trying to filter and tailor everything so not to offend anyone.

by Crackback on Apr 2, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of people just don't get Rex

I think like a good 99% of the things he says that are little jabs at the competition are just said really tongue-in-cheek and people blow them way out of proportion. Perfect example is the huge stink about how he said that we were gonna beat Miami twice next year. Rex then proceeded to laugh pretty damn heartily and you could totally tell he was just stirring up some shit.

by Exystence on Apr 2, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

You hate what you envy.
All my friends are Pats fans. They hate Rex and the Jets to no end. But if you ask them why they usually give you a general answer like “I hate Ryan cause hes a fatass loud mouth” or “the Jets talk shit but they won’t back it up”.
But If you get a Pats fan in an honest moment they will tell you that they hate the Jets soo much bc of what they do well and the players they have. The Defense is a real reason why they hate us. Pats fans prided themselves on having a great defense in their SB years. Now it’s our turn. Jealousy really. But don’t discount the Revis factor in all this. Revis single-handedly showed the world how Randy Moss will give in to preassure at the line. Exposing one of their best players for being soft dosn’t go over very well in Pats nation

by colinyoung on Apr 2, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Apr 2, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Have you ever been on a live ESPN chat with Graham, not looked at one for around a year, but it’s usually 70% Dolphins, 10% Bills, 10% Patriots, 10% Jets…..I guess you can’t blame him completely because the Dolphins is what he knows, and not sure how long he has been there, so when I looked at them perhaps he was still learning the AFC East in general, and felt more comfortable with the Dolphins questions….

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 3, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Pats aren't the juggernaut they used to be , which is why people don't hate them as much anymore

The Jets are young, fast and cocky which is why people would start to “hate” them now.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Apr 2, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess hate is a sign of respect in itself, nobody really hates a team that is not a factor.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 3, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, I think a lot of wide receivers hate Revis as well

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 3, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do Jets fans hate the Giants?

I don’t really care for or against them all that much to be honest. Just a non issue.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 4, 2010 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff, was struggling to find a picture for this, was thinking of imposing Ryan’s face into the picture, but thought it would take too long and not actually look too good.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 4, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the Jets and I'm not a Jets fan.

I don’t get the notion that they are hated now. I wish they had won the SB. It would have been such a great story with the rookie QB and all. Rex Ryan has brass balls. It’s great to see a guy put it on the line like that and force the team to fulfill his bravado with deeds on the field.

by hadrarius on Apr 4, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Good to hear, I thought that a lot of fans would respect his kind of attitude.

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by David_Wyatt on Apr 4, 2010 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m getting a “let them hate us, as long as they respect us” type of thought towards that article. Regardless of whether Rex Ryan’s personality rubs some people the wrong way, having the type of success that the Jets had last season to me, deserves respect.

by jimmy_d on Apr 4, 2010 9:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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