Brandon Marshall Was Almost a Jet

They never would have made the trade for Holmes had the Marshall deal gone down.

yeah, i’m with the others, it’s a nice thought, but unfortunately this isn’t fantasy football.

Santonio is no Bradon. And with the breakdown of Marshall’s contract that Mike Florio basically saying:

So, for now, the only guaranteed money is $12.5 million, with an offset for up to $3 million. If the Dolphins decided to keep him past April 2, 2011, another $9.5 million in guaranteed base salaries will be available — as long as Marshall stays out of trouble.

The contract is not nearly as “massive” as everyone is making it out to be. Honestly? I would’ve rather had my eye gouged out with a spoon than having to Marshall sign with you guys for 5 years. Marshall and Braylon with that running attack, ugh.

No offense, but please explain how you can defend this comment from being compensatory against the fact that you missed out on a premium talent for a relative discount.

I’m not saying I’d rather have Holmes than Marshall.

I’m saying I’d rather have a motivated Holmes + the 29th pick than Marshall + 5th round pick.

But if you allow me my take on things. I think both our teams were in a similar situation; the need for a top flight receiver which we satisfied with someone who along with good/great talent also brings some baggage. I would hope we could both agree on the baggage part. I noticed here as well as the phinsider that before we picked up our respective players that there were issues. Issues that magically were lessened when they became members of our teams.

That being said from that point we went down a different path from you guys. You guys went all in and locked up your player. We decided to make ours play for his contract this year (the trade we didn’t make).

We can talk till we are blue in the face on the possibilities,real and perceived. Worst case scenario on your part is you are stuck with an albatross around your neck at a higher cost then what we were willing to risk. Sucks for you,great for us.

Or he can be the second coming of Warfield for you guys and lead you to much success in the coming years. Please give me a second to pop a mint in my mouth and remove the taste of bile in my mouth lol.

As for us,worse case scenario is Santonio is more headache than he is worth. We remove him quickly (at the end of the year) but we still have that need at WR. Of course, much to the chagrin to all the aqua and orange, he plays well, also improving Edwards play along the way. Behaves himself (if Ricky can do it lol) and the Jets go on to dominate the AFC east for a few years. Hope you didn’t just finish your lunch lol

Santonio + #29 > Marshall

I’ve been to Miami twice, and wasn’t able to truly enjoy Miami either time. I’ve yet to even see an NFL game, pains me to say.

I have a ticket to any Jets game other than their home opener this year, though (thank you Santa), so I’m hoping to finally change that and visit the new stadium for one hell of a matchup.

I live in CT, btw.

If you acquired him, you would have given up, what, 29 overall? It’s not like we were the only team considering him. How is it that we’re stupid for getting an “overrated receiver” (HAHAHA!) for a second (43 overall) and a second next year, obviously lesser value, even though we were the team who got him AFTER you gave him a serious look?

Look at his contract; you’ll retract your statement. Talent at the level of a Fitzgerald or Johnson is costly. If Holmes manages to stay out of trouble and both of your receivers produce, you’ll see how costly your own move was.

Even if/when Revis holds him down, Cromartie will be on Hartline or Camarillo.

You can’t stuff the box against us now, so either Ronnie and Ricky will put up 5.0+ a carry or Davone Bess will have a Welker-esque field day on you.

Marshall is being paid about 9.63 or so mill a year. We put a provision in there that pays him a roster bonus he’ll never earn, for surface value. Fitzgerald is over 10M/yr.

We barely pay him anything if he screws up. Nothing that would kill our cap for years to come, anyway.

The Seahawks needed him, but they need somebody at 90% of the positions on an NFL team. It would be idiotic for them to do that. We, on the other hand, need FS, OLB, NT now that WR is covered. ILB depth can come later. More than the tender is worth? Call me crazy, but I’ll laugh maniacally at you if you say it’s not a steal to draft a guy in the second round who you KNOW will produce these numbers. Even if you know you have to give up a second next year, as well.

Your point about this being such a rich draft only helps us. If this is such a deep draft, then we can find a player in the third round (a pick we still have) that would have been a second-rounder in any other draft.

I’ll reiterate my point from above; your team almost took him. Once again, how are we the morons for actually pulling the trigger when the only thing that held up his coming to New York and you guys telling us how great a steal it would have been is the fact that you knew he wouldn’t sign an extension?

Well you told me to. He is not the highest paid WR in the league.

PFT:

His four-year, $47.5 million extension carries a record average of nearly $12 million per year, but only as to the new years. Marshall signed on Tuesday a one-year, $2.5 million contract. So the full value of the contract is five years, $50 million.

That’s a $10 million average. And that’s the same average receiver Larry Fitzgerald generated more than two years ago on a four-year, $40 million deal.

Then there’s the notion that Marshall received $24 million in guaranteed money. But Fitzgerald got $32.1 million.

Breaking it down by year, Marshall gets $4.8 million per year in guaranteed cash. Fitzgerald gets more than $8 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/15/brandon-marshall-is-not-the-highest-paid-receiver-in-nfl-history/

gave up a 2nd round draft pick in this year’s draft, which might as well be considered a 1st round pick,

Really bascially a 1st rounder? How far down the round do we have go before it is “basically that round”?

and cap room.

As of right now, no cap

They got rid of Holmes that cheaply, mostly because of the timing of Big Ben’s problems

They got rid of Holmes that cheaply because nobody in the league would give them more. What does that tell you?

Well, I think we can both agree we’re glad we aren’t Buffalo Bills fans.-)

I love that we’re making ignorant statements. Davis is our only good corner? Haha, love the humor man.

The point is, Marshall is a great pick-up for us. Holmes is probably going to be a great pick-up for you. I think the only thing that’s laughable is to sit there and say that you got a better deal than we did, or that anybody pulled a fast one on us.

If we trade Brown, we recoup that second round pick anyway. So either we keep our “other Jet killer,” or we didn’t give up “what amounts to a first round pick this year.”

If I recall, it was the Jets who traded half a draft for Sanchez, AND you paid him a hefty sum before starting a game in the NFL. That’s a huge investment for a guy with limited college experience, let alone NFL. It obviously has paid off (so far). But please, don’t be biased. It skews otherwise great discussions.

When did I do that? I like good discussions, as long as it doesn’t get personal. No worries here.

We have more than one person at our blog admitting directly to your face that we’re not exactly thrilled with how competitive your team will be, and don’t fall short of even admitting that you’re almost a lock as a play-off team.

is AWFUL at drafting. His rate of drafting stars/starters plummets in the second round.

And it’s likely that we ultimately get that pick back if we can move a 29-year-old injury-prone running back. Don’t you worry!

Cancer in a funny word for a guy who just about every Denver player loved. He and Josh even got along, according to every report put out since the deal happened, outside of the suspensions during training camp when he wasn’t happy about being underpaid. Which he was.

Santonio Holmes, if either of these players could possibly be deemed cancers, would take that title.

This is the crap I can’t stand reading. Have a little humility.

Again, Holmes is no saint. To say either end got a better deal is ridiculous; it was necessary and fair to both sides.

And obviously we won’t win championships without a defense.. hense Mike Nolan, Karlos Dansby, and the ten remaining picks we have in this draft. Plus, if we lose Brown, another second or third.

Don’t be surprised if we trade back and recoup our second and probably another third. It’s not like acquisition season is over. This is just the beginning.

Sorry Revis, a mid 2nd rd pick is bascially or bascially is a 2nd rd pick.

have a nice day, hope your team isn’t too sad watching us in the playoffs

I’m sure they won’t be. They will have the 1st rd- bye week off before they host a game.-)

We smokescreen like we’re wearing masks.

Jeff Ireland spoke about Gibril Wilson in a positive light, mentioning that the poor play wasn’t his fault. Then he was cut.

I believe Ireland also complimented Ginn, etc., before dealing him for a fifth.

Sparano’s claiming Marshall is not a fit for this team does not surprise me. It is the information that does not leak out that speaks the volumes, rather than the words they say outright.

Never take these guys at face value.

to take everything this FO says with a grain of salt.

I don’t think the Holmes trade forced the BM trade. But I can tell you all of us Dolphin fans was starting to ummm…you can say “tap our foot” a bit.

And you aren’t this?

I am going to be overconfident and irate going into those two games next year, and I sincerely hope we wipe the floor with your collective face.

You should hope so, because you were 0-2 with your chances last year.

All I have to say is that these comments only intensify my hatred towards the Dolphins

If our comments made you like this, then thats a YOU problem

not a single Dolphins fan in this post, not Neo, not myself, made any sort of HINT that we thought we were better than you.

It’s rather hypocritical for you to sit here, in April, and tell us how frustrating it is to see us defend our team and not let your heads blow up because you made a string of moves that makes you clearly stronger as a team and as a competitor.

If you’ve read either of our comments, you’d know that we’re merely enjoying some very early pre-season conversation about each team’s acquisitions.

And, if you’ve read mine, you know that all I have to say about your acquisitions is that it takes a quarterback to throw to those wide receivers, so I’d hope Sanchez can avoid the sophomore slump.

The only “homer blowhards” are the ones that tell us that our moves just killed our ability to pursue other positions in this draft and the next, while looking at their own moves (last year as well as this year) with rose-colored (or green-shaded) glasses on.

You cannot crown yourselves the winners of April, and then get “frustrated” with us because you think you’re entitled to do so.

Sorry togaman, you deserved an apology. This guy doesn’t.