Jason Taylor Should Decide Before Draft
by John B on Apr 15, 2010 9:00 PM EDT
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PrintMike Tannenbaum anticipates a decision from free agent Jason Taylor before the Draft in this free agency never ending story.
All along, it was thought a decision by Taylor would take place by this week, at the earliest. The Dolphins have maintained they won’t consider signing Taylor until after next week’s draft.
The timing of that stance could be pushing Taylor toward the Jets. Tannenbaum told reporters huddled for a pre-draft news conference Thursday that he expects to have the Taylor situation resolved "one way or the other" before the draft, but he didn’t specifically give Taylor a deadline.
"I’m not a big deadline person, although when I proposed, I [told] him I needed an answer pretty quick," Tannenbaum said, jokingly.
As irritating as this pursuit has been, the Jets really don't need a decision until the Draft to solidify their strategy. If Taylor can't decide after over two weeks of consideration, it's obvious he doesn't want to be on the team.
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If he hasn’t decided by the draft, I would pull the offer from the table.
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This^^^
I wish they would pull it now, the whole Costa Rica b.s. drove the nail in the coffin for me. But the dilligent and professional thing to do is wait until draft day.
That annoyed me a little bit as well, really thought a decision was coming today. Like you say, being diligent, professional, we should wait, but if we get to the morning of the draft, he still hasn’t given us an answer. I’m phoning his agent, saying he either signs now, or were pulling out. If he doesn’t then fine, let’s go get ourselves some defensive studs.
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Seriously. What is Coata Rica in a bubble. Can’t phone or fax or e-mail or Fed Ex from Costa freakin Rica. I wouldnt be against him coming if he wanted to be here. But its silly to say you can’t make a decision because of a pre-planned vaca that you conveniently fail to divulge until now. Gotta feeling this vaca wasn’t planned until the Tony Soprano meeting earlier in the week.
deadline
I would give JT a Monday deadline. Like someone said if he really wanted to be a jet he would have signed already. This has been enough time to talk it over with the family about moving. His agent gave us all the hype about him being excited and will decide very soon. JT get in or stay out.
I still believe Jason really REALLY wants to be in Miami.
He turned down $8 million last year to play for a much smaller contract here in South Florida. But, to every Dolfan on the planet, we can’t figure out what the hell our front office is doing by not signing him.
He’s a position of need for us….and granted he’s older, and we are getting younger, but still…. signing him and still try new blood. Prior to the signing of Marshall, the Front Office had many of us Phin Fans just down right confused on some of their decisions this year.
I think JT is trying to force our hand…..No offense to you, but I think this “vacation” is to give our front office another week to decide if we actually want him. And I think our Front Office is stubborn enough to stick to their guns and wait until after the draft….
So who really knows how this plays out. Schefter was reporting it was as good as done for you this morning, and now this….. I have no clue.
Whoever gets him, is going to have a very fine pass rusher on their team for a year or 2. And you’ll no doubt try to get some formation information out of him :)
I don’t blame you guys at all for being tired of his game…… but I think he really is just trying to force us to sign him.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
No question he wants to play for Miami. No question this guy has always hated the Jets. The only question is why our FO allows itself to be abused in this moronic situation, and how our fans could possibly want this guy to use us to get a ring. I just don’t get this, but it’s embarrasing to our organization, which is getting used like a drunk 20 yr old who got micked at a house party.
by nationalist88 on Apr 15, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if our acquiring Marshall has anything to do with his delay
That pushes us significantly closer to a deeper playoff run.
I think before that it was clearly the JETS were favored…… we kind of evened the score a little, at least on offense. Maybe it gave him pause?
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Maybe...
I honestly don’t think he has any intentions of coming here. And if the Phins don’t sign him before the draft he will retire. No man would crawl back to a team that punked him like that. But if he does go back, I consider him effectively neutered.
no doubt that the Jets are his last resort. If any other team, even a bad one, made him a comparable offer he would take it. That being said, it appears that the Jets are the only team that wants him, and he’ll probably sign. No offense to the Dolphin fan, but I don’t see how the Brandon Marshall acquisition takes you from a non playoff team to deep in the playoffs. I still see the Dolphins as significantly below the Jets and Patriots. However if the Dolphins brass agrees with you, they’ll probably now get off their asses and sign Taylor.
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significantly below?
My God man what have you done? Brace yourselves lads, and get ready for the fish onslaught sure to come lol
LOL
Offensively, I think we pulled fairly close to you guys. I won’t say that we’ve passed you yet until I see how our other receivers (Ginn, Hartline, Bess, Camarillo) do now that we have a true #1. Also depending on if any of those guys get traded before the season starts.
As for defense, I would say we are pretty below you guys on defense right now. We still have a lot of holes on defense that need to be filled, most of which we hope to fill in the draft. Then we’ll have to see how they do to see how well our defense has been fixed.
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by Chupathingy on Apr 16, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
ok, a nice intelligent well thought out response from a Dol-fan?
I think somewhere a seal just broke. Only 6 left lol
Seriously though as far as offense goes it is a toss up. You have to integrate BM into your O, we have to integrate Greene as starter, as well as Holmes and LT. We also see which Sanchez we get. Would love to sit here and say we will have the poised calm and collected Mark of our playoff run, or the other Mark which I am not allowed to speak of here on this site lol
Defensively, yeah that is still our bread and butter but for the sake of keeping the conversation going it has only been one year so lets see if we can maintain that level (being the #1) again this year.
Don’t forget special teams, which against you guys was a bit of a sore point for us, so as a matter of fact yeah let’s forget ST’s.
So do you lose any phinsider feud points for the comments you made? lol
Nah, I don't think that
we’ll have another “Phinsider Feud” until the season starts. It actually doesn’t even have anything to do with you guys. It’s just a Family Feud style game where we basically come up with a caption for a pic and the guy who makes the posts gives out points for how much they make him laugh. Just pointless fun to fill the time in between games. LOL
As for Sanchez, yeah that is one thing that I am interested in seeing is how he progresses this year. Will he stay the form that he was in at the end of last season or will he hit a sophmore slump like Flacco and Ryan did? Hard to say, usually when QBs are thrown in and asked to make plays like Ryan and Flacco were (and Sanchez was in the first half of the season) they usually do hit a bit of a slump. But we’ll see if the change to a safer playcalling that he had the 2nd half of the season can stave that off.
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by Chupathingy on Apr 16, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
always wondered about that
But it’s understandable with the 20.000 posts you guys have over there lol.
As for the season I think for once we can all be in agreement when I say this season can not get here soon enough. We can talk till we are blue in the face but the fact remains that both our teams are 0-0 and tied for last (or first) in our division.
In the case of both our teams though a lot does hinge on the QB play even with all the changes. I am already drooling with anticipation of the upcoming schedule. Everyone seems to talk about the opening game. I am waiting to see the last game of the season. Perhaps another season ender between us with winner-take-all for the division? Different outcome of course lol
No, I'm pretty good with the same outcome. LOL
The last game would be great if it was between our teams, but I think I would even like it better if we played the opening game against each other. Talk about a statement to make to start the year off! 2 bitter rivals duking it out on MNF for bragging rights and to show off their shiny new receivers.
God I can’t wait until Tuesday gets here so we can see what the schedule is. I’m also hoping that the Phins play the Packers in the first few weeks. We have some friends that live up near Green Bay and if either the Phins or the Cowboys (wife’s a Boys fan) play in GB at the beginning of the season, we’re talking about making a road trip to go see them. Hopefully they don’t play near the end of the season, Green Bay sucks in the winter! LOL
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by Chupathingy on Apr 16, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to agree with everything my esteemed colleague Chupa says...
and I can’t disagree with anything Toga said either lol
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
I meant a finale between both our teams
That would also give us the perk of probably not playing you the opening week(s) of the season. I would like you to see Santonio twice of course :)
I understand your take, but not sure how you see us as significantly lower.
and the next comment is not meant to enflame, its a personal opinion so discuss rationally with me :) (I will listen)
The Jets performed well in the playoffs last year, however, from our perspective, you didn’t belong there in the first place. As a matter of fact, the NFL is changing the way they schedule games this season because of the game you played against the Colts. They are moving as many divisional games as they can to the end of the schedule so that teams are less likely to sit players in games that have playoff ramifications.
Even the seasoned Jet fan has to accept the fact that if Manning, Reggie, and Clark stay in that game for the entire 3rd and 4th quarter, the outcome could very well have been different. That win got you into the playoffs, but for half the game it was against backups.
Nonetheless, that was last season, and this is a new season which means we both start over, after significant offseason moves. It’ll be a fun season that is for sure.
Again, I’m not trying to pour gasoline on a fire here….. just a rational discussion.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Ahhh… But for Shonn Greene getting injured in the AFCC, we would have made it to the Superbowl. And if we would’ve won the AFCC, who’s to say we wouldn’t have won the regular season game if they had played their starters?
Its all speculation.
I can't argue that.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
there is no rational discussion of that game lol
Woulda shoulda coulda.
The thing I always say is that we played the hand that was dealt to us. What could we do, forfeit the game. Sit our players down when the other teams did as well. Not trying to be snapish but this has been discussed here before. Trust me, well covered ground.
And yes the way we got in may not be your text book way of doing things, but in reality how hard was it for any number of teams to leap frog us. Those that lost at the end of the season should also look at themselves and say “we had our shot”
In the end the playoffs are about the six best teams. I also think our performance in the play offs should say something about be a deserved team or not. Just a little credit sought for here.
The Jets deserve the credit for making the playoffs...
Absolutely.
The Dolphins deserve some blame for not putting themselves in the position that kept themselves out of the playoffs :)
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
:) You do that lol
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
I don't think it should matter whether he signs before or after the draft
because if we pass up a potential premier pass rusher early in the draft just because we got Jason Taylor on a one-year lease, I will be SOOOooOooooOOOOOOooo pissed.
I thought they would make an annoucment tonight
Thus the reason for going to Costa Rica, so he wouldn’t hear the hearts of Miami tearing.
Again I think the FO should not give this a second thought. It doesn’t matter to us or our plans what he decides. He was probably never a part of our plans, just someone who might fall in our laps.
Of course he may screw himself waiting too long.
not to start a war but u didnt even nothing we got braylon,holmes,cotch,keller,LT, ya got marshall…… no offense not try to start nothing once again but i think we got ya on offense
by J3TSFANFORLYF3 on Apr 16, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I understand. Nothing like a good discussion :)
I think we can agree on a couple points.
1) Henne performed better than Sanchez last year. But who knows this year.
2) Brandon Marshall is a better talent than Edwards.
3) Holmes is a very good talent, definitely better than Ginn.
4) Bess is better than Cotchery (Bess is more a poor mans Welker)
5) Both Keller and Fasano have big games, and then disappear for games. Although, I give
you the edge in that Keller has more upside (I’m not sold on Fasano)
6) LT has lost more than a step, TJ was actually a better backup at this stage, given that TJ had
the best season of his career last year, while LT has the worst of his career. But your OLine
should help him get better. That being said, Ricky and Ronnie are still one of the premier
RB tandems in the league (even when Ronnie gets hurt like usual)…. and we still don’t know
if Shonn Green can last a full season carrying the load (but he does look to be a stud)
7) Despite your attempts at running a “wildcat” in the playoffs last year. There is no mistaking
the fact that we get have the highest average against YPC while running it in the league at
over 6 YPC. Our Offensive line is one of the best in the league (certainly the highest paid).
To be honest, it might be a push on offense, but I really think that with the acquisition of Marshall (a top 3-5 WR in the league), and with Henne no longer working under Chad Pennington’s offensive playbook….Our offense should take a large leap forward.
But, thats why they play the games…. because who the hell knows :)
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
good points
I would have to respectfully disagree on the Bess/Cotchery point though. Aside from that as they say down here in Florida during election night, “it is too close to call” lol
Henne had a big advantage over Sanchez though. Henne had that year on the bench watching and learning that a lot of people thought Sanchez should have had as well. He was also placed under wraps from the second he got on the field with conservative play calling. Sanchez was put out there like he was a ten year veteran and told to throw the ball all over the field. He was LATER placed under wraps and became a different QB. You never know going forward, but talent wise, Mark Sanchez is miles ahead of Chad Henne. When the Dolphins play the Jets this year, I think the Jets are just praying that Henne comes out throwing to Marshall, with Revis draped all over him, rather than doing the wildcat.
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can't argue that
But let’s face it who was going to QB for us while Sanchez sat a year, the situation was what it was. And not that it evens things out but don’t discount that valuable playoff experience Sanchez got in the playoffs.
Now I also wouldn’t say Sanchez is miles ahead of Henne talent wise. Henne does have a gun on him. He can make throws that Sanchez can’t although I would say Mark can probably make plays out of nothing better than Chad.
Both good QB’s and we can and hopefully will debate this for years to come.
:) I suspect we will definitely test Revis lol
And settle for a average 4-5 catch game for 40-50 yards….anything more is just wishful thinking.
Keep in mind, we only run 10-14% Wildcat….last season we went games where we didn’t even run it.
(I’m gulping as I say this)Pat White (puke) has had another whole offseason to practice and hopefully learn to throw the ball :)….and who knows what happens with that.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
I still think that both Henne and Sanchez will both become stars in the league, both have flashed true star potential. Sanchez showed in the play-offs just what he can do, and if this surgery effects him as much as some have suggested, his added mobility will only further what he can add to this team. Henne and Sanchez could become the next Star/Unitas, Bradshaw/Staubach or Young/Aikman.
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and we are both okay with that I imagine :)
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
hmmmm.....
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Saw Henne a fair bit at Michigan, and he has a lot of talent, with the added weapon of Marshall he should be able to make the next step. I still think Sanchez is the superior QB and will always be the better QB, but I would say that lol
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I think I saw a post over there on this
But do you guys even want to run the WC anymore? I mean taking out Henne out of the equation and if you lose Ronnie who imo really made the WC hum, does it make any sense to keep it has such a big part of your offense. and by big I mean running it as much as you guys did not that you ran it a majority of the time.
I don't know why anyone thinks its a big part of our offense?
We only run it between 10-14% of the time. If we ran it all of the time it wouldn’t be as effective. But as it stands it averages over 6 yards per play, so no reason to get away from it.
With Miami, the WC has just become another formation. It would be like telling us to stop running plays out of the Power I formation. The way we use it it is less a gimmick and more a regular personnel formation.
If anything, Brandon Marshall will help open it up even more…… And, if God Smiles upon us, and the clouds part, and angels sing…….maybe, Pat White……might learn how to COMPLETE a pass….and then that formation is going to be very deadly…especially with Marshall.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
That actually works in Florida....
we call it..
The Hanging Chad :)
Depending on how poorly he plays, it may be a Hanging Henne.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
HAHAHA
Thats funny…Marshall is wayyy better than edwards and holmes…Ronnie and Ricky are way better than a washed up LT and shonn greene…and davone bess was better than cotchery in 2009 (check the stats)…ONLY place you might win is probably tight ends…
o yeah Henne is better than Sanchez…ask skip bayless hahahahaha
dude let me grab my cup so you can pour me some of what your drinking
by realsouthace on Apr 16, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Settle down bro. He's not attacking anyone, no need to be rude.
And they have a point. After Holme’s suspension, they will have both Edwards and Holmes on the field at the same time…..thats a good combination.
Shonn Greene is a stud, but we don’t know how he’ll handle a 16 game season as a starter. Will he hit that rookie running wall? noone knows.
But lets just settle down.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
yeah, this year should be fun. The Jets went deep into the playoffs which Miami didn’t even make, yet Miami beat the Jets both times they played. I can just imagine the trash talk from Jason Taylor, especially if he stays with Miami!! The good part though is if he does have to sign with the Jets, he’s really going to feel like he has something to prove when they play the Dolphins.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
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