Santonio Holmes to Jets!
by Matt Birch on Apr 12, 2010 12:19 AM EDT
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PrintMike T. does it again.
The Jets have worked out a deal with Pittsburgh.WR Santonio Holmes will come to the Jets in exchange for our 5th-round pick in this year's draft.
There is also a rumor circulating regarding Leon Washington, citing that he will also be going to the Steelers in addition to the 5th-round pick. It should be noted that this is FALSE, as Leon has not signed his tender yet. BUT, the two teams could have worked out a "future arrangement," in which Leon would go to Pittsburgh after signing his tender. So technically, he could still be part of the deal, only time will tell. Remember, with Willie Parker gone, Pitt is in need of a RB. While it is currently impossible with Leon's tender still unsigned, it could come to fruition in the future. We'll keep you posted.
It should be noted that Holmes recently violated the Substance-Abuse policy again, and will most likely only be eligible to play in 12 games this year. He has a history of marijuana use.
Source(s) for this piece of breaking news: ESPN. Article can be viewed (here)
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There is a god and he wears kelly green.
J-E-TS! JETS! JETS! JETS!!
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Come join me as I fanatically follow the goys in green!
by Max VV on Apr 12, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think it's actually called "Hunter" Green,
more commonly confused with “Forrest” green
It is time to unleash LT and the Greene Machine
And the Jets suddenly are a team that is no longer looking wide/slot receiver in the first two rounds.
To be honest, this opens the door for trading up in round 1. Defense will be the target. Hopefully Graham or Odrick will be the target. Outside shot is guard/right tackle.
does screw up the Mocks huh?
Love the fact that other teams (including my fav the fins) also needed a #1 WR and could have had them for a 5th. Maybe we have some nasty picture of the Steelers FO
This move really came out of nowhere!
Love it though!
(currently experiencing serious internet connection issues, sorry)
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This is
the equivalent of getting Dez Bryant as a UDFA lol. I’m not going to be able to SLEEP because I’m so happy hahaAAAAAA!!!!11
...you're a jet all the way.
What Were The Steelers Thinking???
They couldve gotten more for Holmes. If the Jets dont go back to the AFC title game with this team, they arent ever winning another SB
A lot of it was his suspension, which drove the price down.
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A 5th rounder though?
We are talking about a #1 WR, a young one too. You dont think teams like the Bills and Fins wouldve given more?
by YankeesJets on Apr 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
its like they didn't even have a chance
I go on over at their site and live down here and I have heard here and there about rumours but nothing concrete. I think this came as a surprise for everyone.
I hope he's only suspended for those four games
Afaik there hasn’t been any punishment levied regarding his other off-the-field incident yet.
David Clowney
I’m not sure if some of you guys follow him on Twitter, but he looks VERY nervous now, as he should be.
Was talking about how everything the lord does is in his best interest, bla bla bla… but I dont think he believes that.
His time here is almost up it seems.
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Too Bad For Clowney But..
I want to see a Jets title win before I die, not a nice story of Clowney becoming a #3 WR.
by YankeesJets on Apr 12, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
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I know it isnt old, but you never know with these Jets, Ive been heartbroken many times,lol
by YankeesJets on Apr 12, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
This Has To Make The Jets The AFC East Favorites
They have the offense to match the defense. The Jets are making moves like my Yankees do, I love this move.
Oh, easily
And this is a great move btw. i’m a Giants fan who roots for the Jets too, and i was floored when i heard The Moose on the FAN this morning talking about holmes as a Jet. I think you guys are now the favorites to win the division and conference, and i think we’ll have 2 NY teams in the playoffs this year!
J-E-T-S!
BIG BLUE!!!
Any chance we don't draft an
Lineman first round now?
JETS
by michael28102 on Apr 12, 2010 12:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Any chance we don't draft an
Lineman first round now?
JETS
by michael28102 on Apr 12, 2010 12:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just a friendly question.
How do you guys feel about Sanchez?
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Much better now, as long as he doesn’t break an ankle in preseason.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
Bite Your Tongue
Sanchez proved himself to me in the playoffs, he is our QB, and that is it.
by YankeesJets on Apr 12, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Shohn Greene and our Defense proved that they can get it done. But nothing should be holding back Sanchez now with WRs the Caliber of Edwards and Holmes.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
I guess we will really see what kind of QB you have now with this type of talent at WR
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
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because if he doesnt produce with these 2 guys there might be some serious problems
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“Serious problems”
The guy is entering his second year in the NFL, lol. Calm down Geronimo.
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I said serious problems "IF" he doesnt produce with Edwards or Holmes
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I was impressed with Sanchez
not only with his upside but his toughness and how quickly he adjusted to the pro team. Not only that, he actually has a decent deep ball. Jets haven’t had that ability in a QB in as long as I can remember. Even Favre didn’t really have the deep ball.
I’m certainly more than happy to give him another year at the helm. Especially with improved weapons for him.
It all banks on his progression
he is still the unknown factor in this equation. you know what you’re getting with a Rex Ryan D. top 5 at least. you also know what you’re getting with that big line, and number 1 rushing game. the wideouts are proven. it all hinges on how big a step forward, or backward Sanchez makes. it’s always interesting to see how a QB progresses the sophomore year, which is to me, the most important year.
I think
Sanchez shows serious potential as a team leader as well. He may not be a Manning, River or a Brady but he is still showing a lot of upside.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
So you didnt think Sanchez was great in playoffs?
I thought he looked very poised. Sorry I dont want a retread veteran. This guy helped get us to within a half of the SB as a rookie, he deserves his job.
by YankeesJets on Apr 12, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he ever said he didnt like Sanchez
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
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No he insinuated Greene and the Defense did it by themselves
The defense was great, but they lost just any many games as Sanchez.
by YankeesJets on Apr 12, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
If you look at the playoffs though, lets take the Colts game, the game was lost when what’s his name at CB went out with an injury and then Greene went down with an injury.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
What could Sanchez do with no running game?
And against a great team, Sanchez showed me a lot in that game. I still blame the coaching staff for getting conservative after halftime.
Exactly though, it was a team made to run first, and not let the other team score and those two injuries basically meant the game. I’m not saying there was anything Sanchez could have done that he didn’t, just that the team wasn’t dependent on him to win. He could lose the game by throwing a bunch of INTs, but it was the running game and defense that was supposed to win the game.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
I dont care if he was Tom Brady
If the defense knows you have to throw it everytime, the odds of throwing a pick are real good. I think he was very good for being a rookie taking on a team like the Colts. I still think they should remain a running team first.
by YankeesJets on Apr 12, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think they had another running back worth dressing at that moment but I could be wrong.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You’ve got me wrong,
First off, I just want a Vet Backup because Jet’s QBs have a history of going down hurt after great seasons.
Secondly, yes, Sanchez did good in the playoffs, but he did good as a Ball Control QB who didn’t make mistakes in a run first offense. Eli got the Giants a Super Bowl win, but he’s not the most impressive QB. I get the same feeling with Sanchez, unless your the Jags who want to not throw costly interceptions more then anything else, I’d much rather see us 50/50 Run to Pass ratio. The less running we do earlier in the game, the more we can run later in the game to bury it. Early TDs and getting ahead are going to be big for us, and the way to do that is via the pass. Running tends to work on field position and we’re usually happy early in the game just getting FGs waiting for the big run to break.
Not only that, but like I said Holmes is Clutch and Reminds me of Chrebet, now when we get into 3rd and 5+ Yards, we can have faith in Sanchez passing and Holmes getting himself open in those important situations.
Edwards is good, but he’s a home run threat, not an every down WR type guy and neither was Crotcherly. I like Holmes and how he plays and he’s a perfect grit it out and get those last few yards on 3rd down for the first.
Does that explain my position a lot better?
I Do Hate Clemens and Ainge but thats another story.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
I am not a fan of those guys either
I think the reason they dont want a vet, is because they want no part of a QB controversy. I wouldnt mind a vet backup, but I prey we dont need him,lol.
Unless the Jets collapse though, there shouldn’t be any reason for a QB controversy.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
There were plenty of bad games last season and no one, except for the maniacs around here, was calling for Clemens to go in. Okay, what about Chris Simms? He’s a career backup, his former Health Condition means he’s happy just to be in the NFL, and he has great ties to the NY Area.
There are plenty of players around who are career backups that can get a game or two or three, but no one would want them to be the long term answer over Sanchez.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
+111
It was great watching the maturation of Sanchise during the playoffs this year.
Watched our little guy grow before our very eyes! tear
But seriously, we like him, and we think he has a very bright future.
PS. Sanchez > Henne
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nah there to entertained right now with WR debates
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
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IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
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and I'm not one to get into to many debates as Im not very good with spewing out stats and stuff like that
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
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lol
to tell you the truth I like Thigpen more than Henne. I felt Thigpen was better because of his experience and mobility.
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
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lol I bet you guys would
lol Pat White blows
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no thx if I was in charge he would be WR return guy along side Ginn
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lol I don't like him but when I'm here I do.
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LOL, I agree, Toga. Please start Pat White this year!!! : )
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no way lol no thx
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I know I will never understand why we put him in so much
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I have an idea
I am going to start a “dolphins start Pat White” petition lol And put it on every post over there.
Will you sign?
If I were a Phins Fan
I’d be pissed tonight, when are they ever going to bring in a real WR, sorry Ted Ginn only comes to play twice a year….against the Jets.
they are really pushing for Marshall
However with our secondary I wouldn’t worry unless they get some type of Marshall/Bryant combo
there talking a 2nd I believe
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I dont think McDaniels would screw Belichick like that
I cant see him sending Marshall to the East to torture the Pats. Maybe the Skins trade for him.
I don't think they are that close it is a business I think he will take the best offer
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Are you kidding?
BB is his mentor, it isnt like Mangini sneaking to the enemy. I bet Marshall doesnt go to the Phins unless it is a crazy deal.
lol I'll stand by it being a business. We see that most predominantly with the JT situation
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JT has nowhere else to go
and he is a media whore, Marshall has value to a ton of teams, he is a top 10 WR
lol we are
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Honestly, I think that
is the only reason he is still on the team, because the 2 games he comes to play are against our biggest and most hated rivals, you guys.
LOL
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by Chupathingy on Apr 12, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh, neither of the above posts went where they were supposed to.
fail, Henne-esque FAILLLLL ; )
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lol Blasphemy it's Henne > Sanchez
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lol yes it will
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well the proof they say is in the pudding
2nd year and now he will have weapons at his disposal so no built in excuses.
very true. This is going to be one great season of football coming up
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I'm one of the few Mets fans that like the Phins as well
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Agreed.
It will be interesting to see how Sanchez progresses or if he suffers a sophmore slump this year. He’s got all the weapons now to take charge of the team, now we just have to see if he can do it.
Of course, the same could be said for Henne if we can actually get him some reliable weapons of his own.
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by Chupathingy on Apr 12, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't care if he's suspended for 8 or 12 games to start the season
The Guy is Clutch, as long as we make the playoffs and he can play in the playoffs its all good.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
Even with a 4 games suppension
this was a great; great deal by the Jets! Well done; very nice move!
Well done. I think AFC East will be a very ;very interesting race this year.
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 12, 2010 12:53 AM EDT reply actions
Great job once again Front Office
They never seem to amaze me in that Jets board room. You have to be willing to pull the trigger on some players with slight character flaws. No way we dont go all defense in the first two rounds now. I just would have liked to have D. Thomas on our team, but I will take a proven Super Bowl MVP over a rookie up and coming any day. Patriiots give us our spot back. Matter of fact we are coming to take it from you.
Hard to say, because he will begin his career as a Jet while serving a suspension, as Pace did.
Because of Holmes’ vertical speed, I think he’s better suited as WR2. Then move Cotchery to slot because of his consistency and excellent hands.
Just speculating here though.
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Not confirmed yet, just what will most likely end up happening.
And remember, there’s no room to fck around, because if he gets caught up again, it’s a one-year suspension.
Let’s all chip in and buy this man a Whizzinator!
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LEON WASHINGTON RUMOR
There is a rumor that Leon was also included in this deal. Unfortunately, that isn’t necessarily true, because Leon hasn’t signed his tender yet.
BUT, they could have “verbally agreed,” and LW could still become a Steeler at a future time. We’ll see what shakes out, after moving Willie Parker, Leon would definitely fit in in Pitt.
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I havent heard this rumor
But if its true, it is still a steal. I loved Leon but that is a really tough injury to come back from.
Yeah, it's been circulating over the last hour
5th rounder + LW for Holmes is the rumor
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Wait a sec...
Is the Holmes acquisition dependent on LW? Or are they separate transactions?
We got Holmes, that’s not going to change.
But whether or not Leon was included in the deal, we don’t know yet.
TECHNICALLY, it would be a “separate transaction,” because it would be a verbal agreement for the future as LW hasn’t signed his tender yet.
Unofficially, it would be part of the same deal though if LW goes to Pitt.
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Yeah man. So much stuff and talk goes on in the front-office that we don’t know about, lol. Just like PR, a lot of stuff hidden from us.
My opinion? I believe it, and think in the near-future Leon goes to Pitt. I think LW is a great fit for that team, and also solves their RB void.
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The Steelers have Moore as a 3rd down back and Logan returning kicks. It would be interesting to see what role Leon would acquire. I still think of him as a 3rd down back/kr so if he goes to the Steelers then I see Moore and/or Logan being expendable.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He's already in my Hall Of Fame
Tanny is one of only a few Jets members though, My HOF needs more,lol
I wouldn't be surprised if Leon winds up with Pitts for redic cheap now
even with the looming suspension this deal doesn’t make sense to me.
Not that I’m complaining. I love this deal.
Santonio Holmes to the Jets for a 5th? Really? Is it possible that Holmes made this announcement to a media source after he smoked a retarded amount of pot?
Only a 5th round pick?
Pretty dumb move by the Steelers to get rid of him for a price that low. But very good move for the Jets as long as Holmes doesn’t get high all the time.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
And a another great pick-up for the Jets that I get to wake up to in complete shock.
I love this in so many ways. Holmes has indeed freed up one of our premium picks that might have gone to a WR. He is an amazing talent with unrivaled hands. Hes young. He will thankfully stop the Marshall talk on this team. Sanchez has another young talent to grow with should they sign him for the future of this team. I don’t need to say how huge it is that this guy knows what its like to come up big in the biggest game of the year. And BEST OF ALL? Not a soul saw this coming. From Shefter to the speculators on every team site on the net. We truly have no clue what these guys are thinking. Everything is a guess at this point.
by colinyoung on Apr 12, 2010 7:37 AM EDT reply actions
I know
It makes me ill, and I like the Jets (with Ryan) but at least my kid (the Jets fan) is happy this morning.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Mike T
Can I interest you in a baseball team …
and a basketball team …
and a hockey team?
*Mets Knicks Rangers"
…for anyone who cares, yesterday was one bloody Sunday. Mets go down, Knicks go down and Rangers go down with the season on the line.
Yeah what a night I had a beautiful dream that we acquired Santonio Holmes.
Oh well time to wake up!!
lol
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Holmes is an idiot
is a priviledge to get paid millions to play a game and these guys are clueless prima donas who need to get thier heads out of thier asses
This is more correct
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If we gave them Leon...
We’d better be getting more compensation in return :\
seriously?
A top notch wide receiver in his prime (with some issues) for a 5th round draft choice and a 3rd down scat back/kr with a broken leg and the mistake belief he should be paid like an every down back isn’t a better trade for the Jets than the Steelers? Well, just send Bluntonio back and you can keep your pick and Leon.
Leon is a good player. He can make things happen. Holmes wins big games and makes the big plays when you need them. You guys would have got a steal for Leon and a 5th. As far as anyone really knows you got him just for a 5th.
Quit whining for crying out loud and enjoy this season. Barring a serious injury to Sanchez or Revis (and I think you might survive that) you should have a Super Bowl ring at the end.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s a good chance Holmes ends up not playing at all next year, buddy. And then after that, he’s a free agent who’s also gonna be asking for way too much money. Is it too much to ask for a 7th rounder too to balance the risk out some more? A late pick next year even? Just SOMETHING to mitigate the chance of a complete and utter loss.
Risk
Without the risk of him not playing Holmes would be worth a lot more. There isn’t a WR in this draft I would prefer to have over Holmes if there wasn’t the risk issue. On the field he is a proven #1 rounder SB MVP. Off the field he, apparently is something of a twit.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Should be a good motivation...
…for Braylon to catch the football, or lose his starting job. Also, Braylon, Cromartie, and Holmes need to stay out of trouble. No punching body guards, making bastard children, or getting high and throwing glasses at women. Overall, very excited about this deal! The Jets are gonna be stacked, draft is all defense now. Hope this doesn’t end up shipping Leon to Pitt!
Think I found an exclusive picture of Mike T leaving the negotiations:
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Jets/Cubs/Marshall/ND
by David_Wyatt on Apr 12, 2010 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
+1000000000000000
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by blueandorange4life on Apr 12, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember that Holmes is in the last year of his deal, so you’re only guaranteed to get 12 games and maybe even less if this thing about him beating up that woman has legs. So maybe Leon Washington and a 5th rounder for 12 games at best? I still would like the trade as a Jets fan, but I’d hardly call it a steal.
And if he doesn’t perform or has another indiscretion he won’t get paid next year. And if he does perform well, we’ll probably be winning games and he’ll likely want to come back. Don’t really see how we lose in this.
Well, you could lose a 5th round pick and possibly a useful player in Washington while getting only 12 games(again could be less if the abuse charges stick) of Holmes in return.
If he comes back, that’s a separate transaction. Any team that wants can sign him as a free agent after this year. Jets could have done next year and given up nothing.
Again, I’m not saying I’d be upset if I were Jets fan by any means. It does improve your team next year no doubt. I’m just saying that it’s not a no brainer steal of a deal.
Its absolutely a steal. We now have two bona fide number 1s whose contract will be up after the season. Likely one will have a good season while the other has mediocre numbers due to being in a run-heavy offense. It gives us leverage in negotiations and allows us to be ensured to re-sign really good talent relatively cheaply and move forward without substantially weakening. We’re unlikely to lose both unless both have tremendous seasons, which will likely mean we won a bunch of ball games and had a deep playoff run. There’s no downside to this.
Peter King has said that Leon is not involved at all. We also won our first three games last year with a receiving core of Cotchery and Stuckey, so I think we can manage with Edwards and Cotchery until Holmes comes in. 12 games of Holmes is an absolute steal for a 5th round selection. Those assault chargers are never going to stick, the details are completely out of whack. I can’t see how any Jets fan would not be absolutely delighted with this.
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by David_Wyatt on Apr 12, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The downside happens if we gave up Leon
And then Holmes gets suspended for the year because of the dumb ass glass throwing incident, or he decides to smoke up again during his suspension.
cro,edwards and holmes..the selling of the soul is in full mode
that said you cant argue with the #s
a lil overdramatic, don't ya think?
A guy with overactive sperm, another who has the audacity to fight with LeBron’s friends, and a guy who likes the bong too much (all abuse cases have either been dropped or more likely to be dropped); I think the “selling of the soul” is a bit much.
Theres no soul selling here...
Every team in the league has questionable character guys on their roster. Troy, by your account that would make 80% of the league “soulless”? I don’t think so. The soul of a team lies with what makes that team great and dosn’t get sullied by the willingness to take on players with questionable pasts. Are some players worse then others and more likely to cause distractions? Yes. IMO the jets have steered clear of thoes players who might have proven to be too much to handle despite being readily available. Btw, the resolve and soul of this team was proven when Edwards stepped forward and assumed a leadership role for the Jets during some hard times.
by colinyoung on Apr 12, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Pay disgruntled Giant fan no mind. Its just sour grapes that his team is no longer top dog in town. His division just got tougher and his team is deteriorationg like cotton-candy when it hits the tongue.
Ewww lol. Sorry to here that Troy. Well at least you still have the season opener, right?
by colinyoung on Apr 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
com-on u can do better then that..
my div.got weaker .mcnabb owned us ,now he has alot less weapons so im good.. i root for your success in hopes to run into u at the “Show”
buyer be ware
i had a couple guys in are huddle that absolutely stunted are QBs growth..once shock and tiki were gone we won it all
As a Steelers fan
This is the stupidest move of all time. Just a shockingly poor decision.
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I don't know about all time
There was the Herschell Walker trade but I agree that we got the short end of this one.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
An embellishment
Worst of recent memory, perhaps fits better.
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by John Stephens on Apr 12, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Well the bitter feelings I still held for the Steelers after 2004 has now been forgiven. Really opened things up for us here with this.
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by David_Wyatt on Apr 12, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be happy
If the Steelers could make you bitter again. :-)
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
whats so shocking?
steelers are a top notch organization ,, they are dealing with ben now this shit ,this writing was on the wall…whats the big deal with what the jets gave up? moss was got for a 4th .boldin ,5th for a 3 and 4 ..this guy is a FA after this year….
That’s my point exactly. The guy is only going to play for 12 games next year and is in the final year of his deal. He’s not going to have a lot of value in trade.
I would imagine there were many other teams in the league who were offered Holmes.
We fully expect him to play in 15 games next season, I know some fans who are either not Jets fans or Steeler fans, will try and play this down as the Jets getting a bargain or the Steelers pushing him for nothing, but your not convincing me.
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by David_Wyatt on Apr 12, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I could be satisfied
if you lost to us in the AFC final.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 12, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We ran the ball 64% of the time last year
good talent, good pricetag but who knows, dont force Mark to do everything next year just because he has two good receivers on the outside. Stick to the formula and hopefully everyone works in the same direction sans ego towards the championship.
Shit or get off the pot!
I agree use the run to open up big gains for the pass. That said I dont mind going to 57% run
by Vaughn Parker on Apr 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
I of course love the deal, but aside from money is concerned for next year, this year we have already added a few more big names and talented guys with potential personalities. My question is could this be a little too much star power?
LT, Cromartie, Holmes already on the team
Possibly we could sign:
Jason Taylor in the next week, we know they want him.
Darren Sharper a long shot, but he could wait until July and they may have him on the radar.
You gotta add guys like Bart Scott, and names who are good guys but people who get media attention. Revis, Braylon, Kris Jenkins. Its gonna be an interesting locker room.
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