Thomas Jones to KC
by Matt Birch on Mar 9, 2010 5:04 PM EST
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Farewell, Sir Thomas.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports (via Twitter) Jones has signed a Two-year deal worth $5 Million.
Filed to ESPN: Thomas Jones signs in Kansas City: two years, $5 million. Chiefs have their running back. No need for Willie Parker to visit.
Thomas Jones deal is for $3 million this year, $2 million next year and another $500,000 in incentives
Had a great career here, was as consistent as they come. We will surely miss his ball security, excellent vision and ability to hit holes -- but it's time to move on.
As long as he's not in a Blue/Red/White uniform, we're happy. Although it is interesting he will be with a lot of ex-Pats : Vrabel, Cassel, Romeo Crennel, and Weis to name a few.
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well that as they say is that
if it is confirmed. He was a good back for us, wish him well. glad we won’t see him next year. Hope he has a couple of monster games against the Chargers lol.
Why?
He really shouldn’t be taking carries from Jamaal Charles. I guess it makes sense if he is only going to get 8-10 touches a game, but why would he go to KC to get 8-10 touches a game? You would think he could get more reps somewhere else, and it’s not like going to KC gives him a chance to win anything.
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Sorry. I love Charles,
and I think with Pioli you guys are improving, but I don’t think its a spot where a guy would go to end his career, especially when there is a better RB then him there.
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Him and Jamaal Charles
are gonna make a damn good tandem back there.
Eh,
I don’t know. I’m very skeptical as to what Jones can do without our monster offensive line. Charles made almost all of his big plays on lighting speed and pure elusiveness, Jones made almost all of his place following gaping holes by our line.
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I love Jones,
and he did a great job fitting into our running game, using great vision and never fumbling, which was a good combination with our big, physical, awesome line. I just don’t know that he is capable of making anything happen by himself. I hope he does well, I’m just skeptical.
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That's true, I totally agree
I guess what I meant by tandem was Jamaal Charles beasting on people and then TJ spelling him every once in a while to give opposing defenses a breather :P
And to answer your comment further up, it was TOTALLY about the money, that much is obvious now. I’m not too sad about it though, I’ve always had a somewhat positive view of the Chiefs for no particular reason (I like their helmet logos idk lol), so I’m glad he landed there instead of some squad I totally hated.
You said it right there: great vision
He’s the perfect compliment to Charles, in our scheme.
With the new regime, came a transition to a zone blocking scheme, which attempts to create more running lanes (at least, how I sees it). As you saw, this suits Charles speed a great deal, is he can just choose his lane and fly through the hole. His runs aren’t designed to shoot a specific gap where a big, physical, awesome line is better suited.
Jones and his vision is perfect for this scheme. He won’t need to break as many tackles, hsi vision allowing him to choose the path of least resistance. The playcalling can remain the same for both, and TJ can duck his way through the trash on short yardage downs.
Maybe I’m just living in a fantasy land, but that’s how it’s playin out in my head.
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We moved to a zone blocking scheme, and that seemed to suit him quite well, we do have probably the best line in the NFL, but I think he will do a decent enough job for you this year. He will break off a couple of 50-60 yard ones that make you think back to his younger days. Good mentor, good leader, hard worker, the best role model you could look for to be perfectly honest. You guys picked up a nice back for the price.
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Stop
You’re makin me all giddy.
Can’t wait to see him in that Chiefs red. I think Green and Washington can keep up the production no problem.
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I wish you guys good luck with him. But if it doesn’t work out, it’s karma for Derrick Blaylock. lol
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Oh god Derrick Blaylock, why did you have to go and bring that up lol
We did use the 4th round pick we got from you guys for Leon Washington, so I guess were even.
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yep
great trade for you guys. Herm for Leon. I never understood that at all. Weren’t you guys soon going to fire Herm anyway?
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You said it right there: great vision
He’s the perfect compliment to Charles, in our scheme.
With the new regime, came a transition to a zone blocking scheme, which attempts to create more running lanes (at least, how I sees it). As you saw, this suits Charles speed a great deal, is he can just choose his lane and fly through the hole. His runs aren’t designed to shoot a specific gap where a big, physical, awesome line is better suited.
Jones and his vision is perfect for this scheme. He won’t need to break as many tackles, hsi vision allowing him to choose the path of least resistance. The playcalling can remain the same for both, and TJ can duck his way through the trash on short yardage downs.
Maybe I’m just living in a fantasy land, but that’s how it’s playin out in my head.
+1 fair points. I think Jamaal Charles is scary good. I picked him up on the waiver wire right when LJ got cut and this guy got me into the money in my points league in the last 3 weeks. I actually had so much confidence that I started him over MJD for the last 3 weeks of the year. Good luck, kick some Charger ass.
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+1
That Charger play-off game left a bad taste in my mouth with those guys. Hoping TJ takes you guys to the top of that division.
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, plays, not place. Whoops.
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I just don’t understand the $$$ value, would like to know if the Jets went back to him with an offer, and whether it was more than that. Why would he go to a place if he is not going to be the starter?
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It’s pretty obvious he wasn’t gonna get more than that from us. It sucks, but what can you do about it. If it wasn’t that, then he probably wanted a multi-year deal which I’m almost positive would never have come from us. A distant third possibility is that it might have just been a matter of principle not to re-sign with us for less money after we decided he wasn’t worth the roster bonus despite the career year. :(
Seriously, two years for five million?? It’s hard to believe that he could not restructure our one year 5.8 million contract for better than that.
I really think this is just pride talking for Jones, realised on the open market, he wasn’t going to get much, but as principle wouldn’t re-sign for us. I have a feeling he will come to regret that decision. However best of luck to the guy, always liked him so best of luck.
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Yeah, I’m sure it was pride too. I don’t understand why he chose KC though. Seems like he could have and should have had better options for himself. Oh well, good luck TJ. I guess this could be reason for me to watch a raiders game.
I just hope he doesn’t convince Richardson to return to KC
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I agree Dave,
seems weird he would go to a rebuilding Chiefs team to play a backup type role. I could understand if he went to a superbowl contender as a backup, but the Chiefs? And it isn’t like they gave him that much money, so it seems strange.
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What do you think he says in his introductory press conference…… I just wanted to go to a winning team I thought this was good money, unlike in NY, I have a chance to mentor a younger back I just wanted to go where I felt I was wanted………there we go
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No offence intended man, but really can’t see the Chiefs contending within the next two years……..so don’t understand why TJ would go.
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You're probably right. Not for the big dance anyways.
I think we’ll make some noise in the division this year though. You guys should know as well as anyone what can happen when a dangerous young team squeaks into the playoffs.
Eh! It’s fun to think about anyways. Maybe we’ll catch you guys in the playoffs next year? Stranger things have happened.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 9, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hey you never know, after the problems we have with a few Charger fans last year, I’m sure there is more than a few people here who wouldn’t mind seeing the Cheifs come out on top next season. Especially as a lot of people on here also seem to dislike McDaniels in Denver.
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He must like somethin we're doin over here.
He’s a blue collar dude, and maybe he just wants to be part of building something great.
Gotta respect the man for that, and the organization. We’re tryin, man!
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our OL will be much better next season
I have no doubts of that. I wonder though whether TJ will get more carries than people might think. I suspect we may create a number of plays with both him and Jamaal in the backfield and they could end up with a closer split in carries. They will both be very productive in my view – somehow.
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Exactly.
We aren’t ready to make a serious run yet but, you HAVE to admit, the Chiefs got way better at the end of the year and have possibly had the best offseason of any team with the addition of Weis and Crennell.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 9, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
I’m an ND fan so still a bit bitter towards Wise, but you guys are definitely making some strides, like I said a little further up, wish him and the Chiefs every bit of luck moving forward. You took one of my fave coaches in Herm Edwards, so always enjoyed seeing you guys do well under him.
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Weis not Wise...that he most certainly was not at ND
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I assume that
your sentence about Herm was pure sarcasm. I think the Chiefs giving you guys a draft pick for that bozo was the absolute worst move any team has ever made in the nfl behind only the infamous Herschel Walker trade and Ditka’s Ricky Williams draft.
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Two things
Now I really hope the pats don’t pick up Washington. Or any other team for that matter.
And I really REALLY hope we don’t have locker room problems. He was really well liked by the players. Its a business right?
So now we can't resign TJ what do we do?
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Probably draft a back, especially if Leon is gone as well.
We might look at some veteran options, but it was a slim chance he was coming back, so I doubt Mike T’s plans have changed all that much. Even though we have no idea what those are.
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What about Lynch? If we lose leon, Marshawn could be a good fit for the right price. I dont know his free agent status however.
Good call Colin,
Lynch had a down season last year but is a solid pass catcher and he runs like an absolute animal. He is young and probably could be had from Buffalo because he was outplayed by Fred Jackson. He was pretty good in his first 2 years behind a bad line in Buffalo. I would not be opposed to Lynch and Greene bruising people. He also is young, doesn’t turn 24 until April.
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I saw a blurb on him on espn which reminded me of his situation. He’s deff a bad character guy. He’s HUGE trouble. Conceled weapons and all that. But guys like him could be had for late round picks I guess. The article I read made it sound like Perry wants him gone for a change of culture. So mabye hes worth a shot. The guy is a freak.
Hear he’s a bad character guy too. But i didnt get the details. Concealed weapons is definitely not a good thing. Still don’t think they’d trade him within the division though, and have to face him twice a year.
A hit and run with a high BAC level. A concealed pistol, loaded of course. The hit and run went unpunished but he lost three games for the gun thing. And some stuff about him stealing 20 bucks from a cops wife at a diner. Not convicted.
HTF to you NOT get locked up in a hit and run with a high BAC while armed with a loaded gun? Im laughing but its really not funny.
Typical Jets
This was the year the Jest were supposed to load up for a run to the big game. They surprised everyone by getting to the AFC Championship, so why not try and take that run into next season with the team intact and push even harder with some additions? But here they are, the strength of their game is the run and they lose Jones, probably Washington too, and what is left? Greene is good, but can he hold up injury free for 16 games? And his hands- he has alot of Wendell Tyler in him- butterfingers. So you give up two knows for an unknown and your strength becomes a question. This is typical Jets though, i am not shocked because i expected they to throw away the success with bad moves.
Yawn.
Put your flame suit on, because the same old Jets shit won’t fly here. Funny how a scat back that hasn’t played a game since he snapped his leg through his skin isn’t considered an unknown.
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Yawn back
Put a lid on it? You don’t rid yourself of a strength and think it will be fine. You are missing the point. How good will Sanchez be without a running game? Mark my words- and I hope I am wrong- this is going to hurt.
Best year in his career – 1400 yards and 14 TDs and that is shot? Shot? If Greene has that kind of year next season- without fumbling like he is prone to doing- then i will kiss your rings!
Pucker up. Greene had some growing pains but you didnt see him fumble in crunch time. He was the guy strapping the team on his back in the post-season, not TJ. TJ was decent, but not good. When was the last time you saw him break a tackle? Any decent back would’ve run for chunks behind our o-line last year.
Dude, I hope you are right. But you know TJ was hurt going into the playoffs- everyone knew it, thats why Greene got the carries. Greene is good- a great Hawkeye RB- but we need someone else “in the event” Leon is gone and we dont get a credible runner to compliment him. Sanchez needs the running game badly. But we shall see, all the talking we are doing isn’t doing a damn thing- we are all just spectators.
And one more thing- 2 years, 5 million? They couldnt afford that in an uncapped year? This is going to hurt, the Jets made a bad business decision.
The Jets offer was probably similar, but it was a case of principle, when you don’t get the bonus, you feel undervalued, this wasn’t about 2 years at $5 million, this was about 1 year at $5.8 million. We didn’t want to pay that, and there is a good argument for that being the right decision. Even if we offered two years at $5 million, he probably wouldn’t of accepted that deal because of the whole perceived ‘slap in the face’ with the denial of the bonus.
Let’s see what Mike T does the rest of the off-season before we cast off into same old Jets territory. He has renewed by faith in hosting Pool that’s for sure.
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OK, I agree with you that it was a matter of principle for Jones. And if he wanted to win he would have swallowed his pride to chase a ring. But typically, they go for the money first, even though it is more then they can spend in a lifetime (unless you are Cormartie and have 7 more kids in 6 more states). I know the D will be #1 again if they add Pool and Jenkins returns to form. But we still need O- it showed vs the Colts. We need to score to win.
We do need some offence for sure, but I think we can get that, it’s still very early in the free agency period, and there are some attractive options in the draft as well. If we still look weak come opening day, then we can worry, but right now we are thin at the back, but I’m pretty confident that Mike T will rectify that with some signings and or draft selections.
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Well, if we are stuck with Greene, Woodhead and a rookie RB then I can’t say I will be confident. Lets hope Mike T pulls off a doozie at backup RB!
If the rookie back-up’s name is Gerhart or Ryan Matthews or Anthony Dixon or Jonathan Dwyer or Joaiq Bell or LaGarat Blount… Im good with that.
I’m good with most of those guys as well. Greene will take on a lot, but I think we do get that extra 2nd, we are going after Gerhart, and that kid is an animal, I would love to see what those two do behind this line. Gerhart is like Jones just with more lower body power to break tackles.
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Honestly...
I think you guys can plug in just about any RB behind your O-line and they will do well.
Good luck this year!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 10, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I think there's the potential to be like the next Shanahan-led Broncos in that regard
Just being able to plug in any random dude back there and have him run for 1000 yards (Olandis Gary? Mike Anderson? Reuben Droughns? Tatum Bell?)
Yeah, I guess youre right. But if they are named Tomlinson we are in trouble. Now THAT is a shot back!
No doubt. I’d have to renounce my fanship if we went with LD. But usually with backs its the younger the better. I wouldnt worry too much.
Yer LT would be a disaster, but I don’t think we are even looking at him, or Westbrook, who has got no bite at all. I think we will go young if anything like Crack said.
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FYI — I refuse to acknowledge the nickname “LT” for any other human being not named Lawrence Taylor. ; )
This V
If the rookie back-up’s name is Gerhart or Ryan Matthews or Anthony Dixon or Jonathan Dwyer or Joaiq Bell or LaGarat Blount… Im good with that.
Running back isn’t quarterback, the lifespan of a running back in the NFL is very short. It isn’t anything unusual to see a rookie running back contribute right from the start.
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btw
Enjoyed watching you guys this year, great season. Fun team to watch and I like your coach. And thanks for embarrassing the Chargers.
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No problem, glad to see some other fans like our coach, listening to other AFC East fans, you would think he was public enemy #1 in US sports.
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anything that makes Pats fans cry is alright by me
I prefer to hate McDaniels. But, on the other hand, I think he can successfully destroy the Broncos, so, that’s fine.
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Ha McDaniels is not a popular guy round here, I think most agree that he is an absolute tool. Don’t like the Broncos or the Chargers, and well the Raiders are the Raiders, so best of luck next year.
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thx, you too gentlemen
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You do get the classy fans, take Jacksonville for example, those guys were excellent when we played them this year. Top bunch of guys.
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Jax fans as a whole must be classy. Because like you said the guys on here were awesome,
I actually went to that game, and the hotel I was staying at had a bunch of Jax fans. They also, were extremely classy and great guys. We had to wait for the shuttle back to the hotel after the game, and they were getting empty beer cans and cups thrown at them by cars, all the like. And they just smiled/shrugged it off and said they were going to the bars into the city to celebrate.
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glad to ablige
Stop by Arrowhead Pride anytime. We’ve got a lot of knowledgeable fans and most are very classy. Although we’ve had our troubles with SD trollers.
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Oh I'm keeping it going up top, baby
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I don’t know why you guys think the Jets might have offered a similar amount to the amount the Chiefs gave Jones. It looks to me like the Jets didn’t want him back at any price. I guess they believe that old adage about how it’s better to get rid of a guy one year too early than one year too late. Obviously the Jets feel that Jones is at the end of his career, and that pretty much anybody can look good behind that offensive line of theirs.
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by rxmeister on Mar 9, 2010 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I guess we will find out in 2010 if that was the right or wrong decision.
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The Jets also wanted Jones to be #3, whereas I believe in KC he will be #2.
If our O-line continues playing well, I think we’ll be fine even with Leon – although I think he’ll be back. Opponents were stacking the box last year and we still ended up as the best running team. I certainly hope we’ll be more balanced in 2010, which should make it even easier for us to ground and pound.
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*even without Leon. (My subconscious couldn’t handle the thought).
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If you’re still around, can you all explain what his role is going to be in KC?
Are him and Charles going to be directly splitting carries? Or will Charles be the workhorse and Jones for Short Yardage/goal line situations.
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The way I see it
Charles gets most of the work between the 20s, with TJ spelling, maybe coming in for some 3rd down situations. Maybe they split carries in the redzone, with TJ getting most of the goal line carries…. maybe a 70/30 split, depending on the situation?
I dunno… That’s how I’d do it.
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Yep, that’s exactly how I would figure it to go also. That would be the logical and effective way to do it.
TJ is still excellent at hitting holes, he just can’t break the big one. That would work well and would be a great tandem.
Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
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yeah
Arrow might be right. That’s probably the conventional thing to do. However, I think Haley is pretty aggressive as well as creative. And, I think that Weis will be creative also. So, I suspect there might be a more even split with some 2 back formations where either can run or catch passes. I hope so anyway. But, of course, Jamaal is the home run threat so you’ve got to get him the ball.
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plus
a more even split allows us to use up TJ for 2 years and preserve JC for when the Chiefs are more in contention. Although, frankly, I think we’ll be contending in our division this year.
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You thinking the Chargers are going to regress?
I could buy that.
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yes
Although I’ve been thinking that since they fired Marty. But, they have a lot of FA that they won’t or can’t resign and have aging guys too. They are getting into a bit of rebuilding phase here and I hope they don’t do well with it. Although, as much as I hate Rivers, as long as he’s there they will be a threat.
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No argument from me.
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I think
you guys could probably line Charles up at receiver at time with TJ in the backfield also, seems to me like he has excellent hands for the position, and he is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast.
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And I could also see TJ starting some series also.
He’ll definitely be getting his carries.
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He’ll get you positive yards, just not a lot. But even looking at 2nd & 6’s is a good spot to be in.
We found ourselves in many “3rd and manageables” this year thanks to him. ANd it worked out well.
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Great addition for a team with the worst? 3rd down conversion rate in the NFL.
Makes a young QBs job 10x easier. Perfect fit.
Now we just have to execute.
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Another plus for you guys, he won’t put the ball on the ground, it takes a lot to strip the ball from the tree trunks that he calls arms. If I was in a short yardage situation where I absolutely had to protect the football, I would give it to Jones.
Just like we did when we needed that yard to win the game against San Diego….just took that ball and rammed it home…..
Gonna miss the big guy
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Arrow
did you see our friends here speculating that T Rich might be gone too? I think we should pick him up to for one more year if opportunity knocks.
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Kabrink, don’t you come over here with that kind of talk lol you had T-Rich he’s ours lol
There was a lot of conflicting reports about that, however the one that seemed to settle it all was the one saying it was now a priority to sign him back up. Still one of the best FB’s I have seen play the game.
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yeah, he's awesome
I’d love it if he came back. But, he deserves a chance for a ring and he has a better chance with you guys on his timetable. I hope you guys can get him that this year. We’re reserving the next year for our rings!
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lol I know look at these KC guys!!!
We give them a solid back who will be a big improvement for them, and they come back wanting more
Greedy bastards ; )
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land LJ if you so desire! Always willing to help.
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Time for em to come back home, baby!
We need to have oldchiefsfan write a letter to the Don.
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whatever will help! ;-)
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I approve this analysis by kabrink and Arrowspread.
I think we’ll run 40x a ballgame now. Multi back sets, reverses, screens, draws. It’s gonna get funky.
Probably the key to taking the division also.
KC and Oak both vulnerable against the run. Think they ranked 3rd and 2nd to last this year against it lol.
SD also could be run on last season. middle of the pack as far as rankings.
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KC going to run on KC?? lol
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Oops.
Should say Denver and Oak, lol.
Denver was 25th, Oak 29th
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denver
will improve against the run to the middle of the pack
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
I am here to refute j-man
The Chiefs running attack will overwhelm Denver this year with Jamaal, Thomas, and soon to be added T Rich!
;-)
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lol
it is possble but denver will be better against the run and u got us at the right time last year
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
how ironic
I just spent my 3000th comment anniversary at Gang Green Nation? weird.
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Cheers. We appreciate it!
Maybe at #10,000 we’ll be facing off in AFC championship game? lol
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that's a deal
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While we have you guys, seems logical to ask you what you think about Antonio Cromartie??
Newest guy, you guys have gotten a good look at home for the last few years. Worth us being excited about him getting back to man coverage and playing with Revis?
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I'm not the most up on him technically
but I know plenty of folks around our parts were interested in him. We certainly have needs in that area as well – we’ve got plenty of needs! Didn’t he have some off field issues of some kind?
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He's got a whole host of baby's mamas.
And a whole lotta kids ta feed.
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I've already referred to them as Cell Block D in one comment
He’s been a little soft lately, as you saw him daintily dancing at the line on some key downs in the playoffs. But I honestly think that your defense has an attitude that’ll rub off on ANYbody, even him.
Do I think he’ll return to his 2007 form? Eh… But I do think your defense his improved with him on the field, long as he ups the intensity and gets physical vs the run.
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Yer we just fronted him some money to pay for the maternity issues etc, that’s a bit of a problem, but would rather that than say some arrests for gun possession or something like that.
Most definitely saw him back out a few challenges, and when he was introduced he held his hands up, he said he should of made the tackle on Greene, and he needs to improve his tackling, so at least he admits to these things.
Lets hope the D rubs off on him, very excited at the prospect of him and Revis.
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Here's some recent humor
that we had at his expense that you guys should find particularly pleasing, …. or maybe not now.
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by kabrink on Mar 9, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That never gets old.
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Wish I would have seen that after the game. That was hilarious
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I'm almost certain someone from AP would have posted it here.
We’re good for doing that.
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How did that only get 43 comments? That was great.
I see all the threads you guys put out now get 100+. Very impressive
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Rec'd
Lol that was nicely put together, will be none of that this year though, he bails out on a tackle with Rex he will be riding the pine.
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dang, you're a Brit?
Must be pretty damn late, or early over there. I thought you guys only liked that weird kind of football with the round ball.
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Ha it is mad early, but I got no jobs on tomorrow, so it’s all good. I love that football my friend, but always got room for some more football. :-D
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I love both kinds as well
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yer? you follow EPL or MLS??
Norwich fan – league one in England (3rd tier)
Red Bulls fan
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
both. more MLS since it is one more here on channels I see. Don't really have a favorite in the EPL
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Norwich?
You guys are top of the table. Keeping another storied team out of the top position (Leeds),
Not a Brit, but have followed the game rabidly for years. Even know an offside when I see one!
After last season’s debacle, you guys should improve. Beautiful new stadium, and a new manager (would’ve liked to see Richie Williams).
In the DC area, I’m all in with DC United, but have no illusions as to how the season should go for us.
Sorry to get off American football. Love my Jets, but American football is a close second to the round football!
We are indeed, our first result of the season was a 7-1 loss to Colchester, so we did what any big club would do lol, we sacked our manager and nicked the manager from Colchester….few months later we have a 5 point lead at the top of the table.
We have Leeds in a couple of weeks.
I have only just started to get into the MLS to be perfectly honest
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
BTW
just looking at some highlight reels of TJ. Does he always rock the black shoes? I love that. I hope he keeps that up in KC. I wish we would make that a uniform requirement.
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Huh, never noticed that.
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by ArrowSpread on Mar 10, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Can’t say as I have ever noticed that to be perfectly honest
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
it looks like you guys
have a mix of dudes wearing white shoes and black shoes. I think the Chiefs are always wearing white shoes – perhaps there’s red ones sometimes. But, our throwbacks were black shoes which I just love. Perhaps it’s weird that it matters but I just think it’s a great classic look. Old school.
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I'm gonna have to start spending more time over here
You guys are alright. And feel free to stop by AP and chat with the locals sometime.
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second that
great joint you guys have here.
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Will definitely stop by sometime, always good to see fans from other blogs around, so will definitely try and reciprocate. Don’t listen to what the Dolphins fans say about us, it’s 95% untrue.
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely, man. Was going to say the same thing. You guys get some great discussions going over there. Will stop in.
You all are good people for sure.
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While were talking up SB nation sites, if you get the chance to check out the Jacksonville place, definitely do it. Those guys have been great, they always offer advice to me personally on how to improve etc, and they still stop in every now and again since we got talking earlier this season when they visited us for a game.
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I'll have to do that.
My anecdote for Jax is that I lived there from about mid 1991 to 1993 or so. So, I lived there during the expansion selection process and it was pretty exciting that Jax got one of those teams as it was a little bit unexpected. Of course, I moved before they were up and running so I never saw a game there. Well, I saw the FL-GA game in the old stadium once – fun! So I have a bit of emotional connection with them but not enough that I follow them closely.
I do hope they will support the team and keep it there rather than lose it to frickin LA. It would be more hilarious for me to see the Chargers move up the road.
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Your right there, those guys who are the true supporters put everything they have into supporting the team. I hope they can find a way to get more bums in deats, if they take Tebow, I think that puts more people in temporarily, but nothing improves attendance then winning.
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
They should support it better
because that area is a huge college football crazy place. But, I guess that can also be a negative. The Gators and Seminoles are always pretty good or one or the other and maybe draws people away. But, KC area is very similar and it works to help the pro game I think. KC is the heart of the old Big 8 and many people that go to all of those schools end up in KC and it makes for great rivalry fun.
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152 Comments
Not bad for a Tuesday night.
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Hey now
I feel like we’re on your blog, lol. You guys get that many on average.
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not average for you guys? that is minimum on our blog it seems sometimes (not all positive)
however we have random open threads almost all the time and they consistanly get 1000 to 2000 comments
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Naww, we average about 40-50. You guys definitely do very well over there.
1000-2000 comments in an open thread, wow. that is excellent.
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yea it would be more at times but shake is a nazi about closing them before they go over 2000 (does what he can to anyway).
yea however the overall average is probably brought down some if you go off productive comments in posts in general. We also average more comments per post than AP in part because we don’t get as many out as fast as they do. I think they average 10 posts a day or something like that. we are around 5 or so but many comments on each.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
I enjoyed reading your head guy's blogs at the Super Bowl
Some great stuff, awesome that SBN sent a couple of you guys.
I read the Peter King interview and some of his daily blogs.
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yeah I think the Colts guy
and AP Joel Thorman went together.
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-- Madden
yea they did (always mix the two Thorman's up but yea
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
yea that was awesome
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
hey are you interested at all in repping your team in the mock at MtD?? we need someone even if only this Sat. and we maybe you could get a guy to take your place if you don't want to after that.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
You the Jets. just use the up button :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, David would certainly be interested. I think he was slated to represent us. Will just have to get John B to alert whoever is running MtD this year.
Definitely interested though and we will be participating.
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NO it is the same guy running that thing but isn't what im talking about.
Me and another guy have been doing mocks and we are running a 7 rounder starting this saturday. David participated earlier last month with us but couldn’t continue. Im just looking for anyone interested for this one. IDK anything about the leader Mock they do yearly.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Ohhhh.
Gotta look into something for this weekend, can I just get in contact with you tomorrow night at some point?
And this is taking place on Stampede Blue or MtD?
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at MtD
yea you can email me at ttango1990 @ verizon.net (no spaces though). you can find more info over there and right now the post is under the name quincyyyyy since I Had been gone last weekend and he has been doing work for me. Just let me know tomorrow if you can.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
One question though, how many rounds does it usually get to on Sat? Do you get all 7 done then?
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No if everything goes well and I get a BPA list from everyone we will do 2 rounds a weekend.
I think it should only take like 2 or 3 hours but will probably take more with trades. As long as you get a BPA in incase if you can’t stay at the end of the day it will be ok. I am planning on starting at 1ET and your first pick will probably be more around 2ET.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds good
And it’s all done in a thread like this? Or do you have live-chat software that you use?
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nope done in a thread like this one
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
alright cool
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
An issue for GGN
I think, and I really don’t know, just me taking an educated guess, is that we are in NY, with all this media, they have the SNY jetsblog, and a million other Jets blogs. It’s the same with any sport. I jumped around through dozens of jets centered blogs before I came across this one, which I only found through Amazinavenue, which I only found through a frequent commented on MLBTR. SBN generally has good stuff, this is easily the best Jets blog I have found. There just may not be as much action in the comments section because of the other thousand Jets blogs. You have to sift through the weak to find the good, but even since I have been here, probably since the beginning of the season or so, there have been a lot of new names popping up in the comments section, which is always good.
Then you run across the problem of having a blog become to successful, and get flooded with stupid fairweather fan, silly comments, which is what happened at MLBTR, imo. I love it here though, I have found a number of guys who I love to discuss football with here.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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good point
there are a lot of blogs for other teams as well but it sounds like it is nothing like for the New York teams. That though is probably just a part of it though.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
that's probably true - NY saturation coverage
But, for us AP has become sort of a big central clearing house. A lot of the content from the KC paper (not much) and other blogs and national things end up linked into AP and that’s where the discussions occur. I used to look all over the place but have gradually stopped doing so because AP is regularly on top of everything as quick or quicker and collects everything for me anyway.
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I think your right and that is a big reason you have so many posts ever day
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely helps us collect and gather news at a rapid rate.
All the beat writers are on top of things, we are lucky to have about six that cover Jets-related stuff on the daily.
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Hey
so, what’s the deal with stadiums. Are you and Giants going to continue to share the new stadium in Meadowlands or is there still a plan for a West Manhattan stadium also?
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The New Meadowlands is the venue of the future. Haven’t heard anything about Manhattan in awhile, and especially since it was built, so believe that’s done with.
The stadium funds were split down the middle 50/50 from both teams, so we will actually “share” this time and not be lil brother anymore.
The stadium also has color-changing properties — as it’s metallic exterior can change from bluish tint to greenish when needed. Looks insane.
It’s looking like we’ll be hosting the 2014 Super Bowl as well.
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It’s looking like we’ll be hosting the 2014 Super Bowl as well
Love this. I think it a joke how people complain it has to be somewhere warm. So football is a cold weather sport, we play in the winter, and we take the advantage away from a cold weather team so the fans can be more comfortable? If they don’t want to be cold, let them stay home. The superbowl will sell out and make money no matter what. We talk about how it is a cold weather sport, the playoffs are cold, and then we give any team that plays in a dome or in warm weather the advantage in the superbowl, the most important game, after a whole season of cold weather football, because it is better for the tourists? Damn right we should get a superbowl.
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by nrmax88 on Mar 10, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And not that Miami or a warm place/dome should never host
but not every year. Mix it up. If a team like the Colts plays a team like the Giants in any dome, they have an advantage, how is it fair that dome/warm temperature teams have the super bowl advantage every year?
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Thank you,
it always bothered me there aren’t any snowy super bowls.
On that note, jeez, time for me to check in tonight. Came online at like 11:30 to check for anything new, and end up talking football for 2 and a half hours before I realized what happened. Thats why GGN is my shit.
Good chatting with you fellas, catch you tomorrow.
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lol, same thing with me. thought i was going to be done by 12. time flies
take it easy.
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lol you guys kept chatting until 7:00am my time
Good points though, we are growing as a site but the media saturation does make it difficult. Like I was saying the other day, SB Nation blogs as a whole are growing though. 10 million comments in the last 6 months, that’s pretty damn impressive that’s for sure
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Nice Community fellas.
Hate to take away a sound player like Jones from a young up and coming team like the Jets. We KC fans are damn glad to have him.
Thanks for making this cast-off a little more worth-while than the last one you sent our way!!
Herm Edwards was such a joy
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
ha no problem man, enjoy TJ. He will make you proud to root for the guy, you won’t find him dodging any tackles, not giving it his all or anything like that. He will lay it all out on the field for you and more. let’s hope he can have a good season.
Herms a legend. ;-D
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 10, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the hospitality guys.
Jets fans are alright.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 10, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
lol, he should definitely be a great fit and your 3rd down conversion rate should drastically improve as Arrow touched on above.
Great person on/off the field also. A leader. You guys have a relatively young team at QB/WR/RB if i remember correctly so should work out well.
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^^^This was response to Bucko's post above
Hit the wrong reply button.
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Cheers.
Thanks to the guys at Arrowhead Pride and Stampede Blue also. Two excellent reads and great fan-base’s also.
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Great post
Love the way others like K.C. fans got into the mix. Rec’d!
we'd be glad to continue
if you’ll send us back T Rich!!
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I’m afraid we are going to have to cut off if that is the case lol
Little nervous about this, he should be signed up by now, Mike T dragging his feet this year.
Was about to get stuck into some talking over at your place on the Mount Cody thread after we had been discussing him today, unfortunately, their is a one day waiting period, so will have to save it for tomorrow.
Was going to say that Rex Ryan was at the Alabama pro day today, and we are looking to get younger on the defensive line, so we could be looking at Cody with the 29th selection.
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