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Scouting The Draft: Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford

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I know a lot of people have wanted me to get to Gerhart a little sooner, but never really imagined we would contemplate taking him, but with Jones gone, and Leon's status still a little uncertain, it's becoming a real possibility that we will look his way when it comes to the draft in April.

Gerhart has done nothing but produce since he was a kid, he had a record career at Norco high school in California, despite this most scout agencies only ranked him as a 3 star prospect, although during the recruitment process he did carry the name 'Touchdown Toby'. Names Mr Football for the state of California in 2005 he decided on Stanford thanks to the combination of academics and excellence in a two sport program (he is also a baseball player)

Gerhart has also heard what is being said about him, and feels that he is not getting the recognition that he deserves, not listed as a top 5 back in either Tod McShay's or Mel Kipers running back class, and not even listed as their value picks:

"They say I don't have top-end speed or the burst," Gerhart added. "They say I can't play running back at the next level. I don't think I'm getting the respect I deserve."

Little burst, not much speed, it's exactly what they both said about Greene last year, he has deceptive speed for sure, and now that he has been working out on a no carb diet, he has shed 10lb's since Stanford's last game.

He had to run the 40 in under 4.6 if he wanted to silence the critics, and prove that he does have what it takes to be a running back and not a fullback at the next level...he ran it in 4.53. Just as a comparison, Chris 'Beanie' Wells ran it in a 4.59.

40 Yard Time: 4.53

Bench Press: 22

Vertical: 38 inch

3 Cone Drill: 6.94

Broad Jump: 9"10

Career Stats

2006- 106 attempts, 375 yards, 3.5 average, 38 long, 0 TD. 15 receptions, 124 yards, 8.3 average, 16 long

2007- 12 attempts, 140 yards, 11.7 average, 48 long, 1 TD. (suffered a knee injury)

2008- 210 attempts, 1,136 yards, 5.4 average, 46 long, 15 TD's. 13 receptions, 114 yards, 8.8 average, 21 long

2009- 343 attempts, 1,871 yards, 5.5 average, 61 long, 28 TD's. 11 receptions, 157 yards, 14.3 average, 33 long

His achievements will have to go on the next page, as there are too many to list on the front:

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Awards and honors

Pac 10 Records

  • Most rushing touchdowns in a season (28) in 2009
  • Most total touchdowns in a season (28) in 2009
  • Most points scored in a season (172) in 2009

Stanford career records

  • Most career touchdowns (44)
  • Most career rushing touchdowns (44)
  • Most career 100 yard rushing games (20)
  • Most career 200 yard rushing games (3) (tied)

Stanford single season records (2009)

  • Most rushing yards in a season (1,871)
  • Most rushing touchdowns in a season (28)
  • Most total touchdowns in a season (28)
  • Most points scored in a season (172)
  • Most yards from scrimmage in a season (2,028)
  • Most 100 yard rushing games in a season (11)
  • Most 200 yard rushing games in a season (3)
  • Most consecutive 100 yard rushing games (7)

Stanford single game records

  • Most rushing yards in a game (223)
  • Most rushing touchdowns in a game (4) (twice) (tied)

So what does Toby Gerhart Do well?

The guy knows how to get into the end zone, 28 total touchdowns in 2009 was just quite frankly amazing. He has a powerful lower body that can take contact and keep on churning. He has quicker feet than most give him credit for, and he in intelligent with his runs. Doesn't force anything when it isn't there, waits for the hole to open up and then bursts through it. Very good inside runner. Very rarely brought down by first contract, and will often get 3-4 extra yards after contact. Has more speed than given credit for and can get to the edge and make it difficult for the defense. Would work well in a zone blocking scheme that allows him to use his intelligence to be patient in his runs. Above average pass protector, has a big frame and loves contact, will take on anyone, and usually does a stand up job of keeping his QB on his feet. Can receive the ball out of the backfield, soft hands and secures the ball before attempting to turn up field. Two sports and academics at Stanford, you know his work ethic is among the elite, and seems like he would give 100% to improving.Can be used on certain route passes, and has a good stiff arm to swat away weak arm tackles.

What does Toby Gerhart Need To Work On?

Speed is not top edge, but as far as I'm concerned it doesn't need to be. Won't make too many players miss in the open field, and doesn't have the top end gear to run away from defensive backs. Had 5 fumbles in his senior season, and although he protects the ball on initial contact, he needs to do a better job securing it while fighting for extra yards.

Final Word

Gerhart is a great back, who is not getting half the recognition that his play warrants. He has deceptive speed, he is a bruiser, and he will give you 100% effort on every single snap. Good insider runner, I think the combination of Gerhart and Greene could do some serious damage for us. Only problem there is with his draft stock, do we need to spend our only 2nd round selection on a running back? If Leon does leave and we pick up another selection, I would like to add Gerhart and then pick up a real 3rd down change of pace back up later in the draft, if at all. His hard work will make him succeed in the NFL, he won't allow himself to fail.

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I'd love to have him on the team

Not sure he’s worth a 2nd round pick though.

Are you gonna do Ben Tate eventually?

by Exystence on Mar 8, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

I will get to Ben Tate, probably sometime this week…

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 8, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

There is not a more perfect fit for our team.

I think he would beat out Shonn for primary back and we would have as formiddable a backfield as there is. I think he would be great value for our 2nd pick. As crazy as it sounds, I am actually hoping to lose Leon so we can grab Gehart AND Shipley in the 2nd.

by Crackback on Mar 8, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

If we opt for a big back either him or Ben Tate would be a good fit.

by NYC KID on Mar 8, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not crazy at all. Wash was a great player for this team but if we lost him and picked up this guy I would be very happy.This guy is a monster and fits this teams gameplan to a T. Even if it means Leon going to the Pats. Which is a huge possibility

by colinyoung on Mar 8, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I love this guy...

I’d be ecstatic if he were to become a Jet. He’s smart, he’s tough, he works hard and he’s perfect for the Jets. I can’t think of anything negative he’d bring to the team.

by cult hero on Mar 8, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

“They say I don’t have top-end speed or the burst,” Gerhart added. “They say I can’t play running back at the next level. I don’t think I’m getting the respect I deserve.”

I love that he has a chip on his shoulder. Who the hell will want to deal with THAT guy when he’s playing with a chip on his shoulder?

by Crackback on Mar 8, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

And i love the way he ran his 40 at the combine. He didn’t get into a crouch. He didn’t approach it like a track meet. There was no long delay after he took his starting position. He just stepped up and sprinted. Wasted no time. Ran from a standing position like you did in 3rd grade gym class. Just simple and effective. No bullshit. No fancy stance. He just stepped up and ran the damn thing. The guy knows who he is. He’s a damn football player.

by Crackback on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No BS, just straight up football.

That should be his tag line.

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 8, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Look for his stock to absolutely sore around March 18th

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 8, 2010 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

wow very impressive

he is smart (i think) -went to stanford
hes tough he takes hits (rex likes that)
            the problem:
he has a very similar game like green so our run game would be too preidctible
thats why i still prefer have washington
- can we have both?

by Hamdi Popinara on Mar 8, 2010 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

you know why i think he doesn't get a lot of recognition

not because of his speed but because he is white who knows – who was the last great white running back………….honestly i cant think of any. btw i m white and not racist just trying to make a point

by Hamdi Popinara on Mar 8, 2010 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly, I don’t get either of your comments.

Theres nothing tricky/unpredictable about the Jets running game.

Gerhart’s “lack of recogniion” has nothing to do with race. Most coaches and GMs are white. It probably has more to do with the evolving style of play in the NFL and Chris Johnson.
The NFL has been becoming more and more pass heavy in recent years, and big bruising backs aren’t ideal in that type of system. You’re seeing more spread formations and less I-formations. Also, the NFL is a copy-cat league; and since the latest 2000 yard rusher was a speed guy, now everybody wants a speed guy.

by Crackback on Mar 8, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

ABOUT THE RACE PART I WAS JUST JOKING.

THIS GUY IS GREAT I M JUST SAYING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE 2 TYPES OF BACKS
 ALL AROUND RB LIKE WASHINGTONAND GREEN WHO SHOWED US WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF DOING IN THE PLAYOFFS. SO MY POINT IS THAT WE SHOULD ATTAIN WASHINGTON AND REALLY FOCUS ON GETTING A DECENT SAFETY. IF WE COULD SOME HOW BE ABLE TO GET THIS GUY AND ALSO A DECENT SAFETY THAN I M HAPPY.

by Hamdi Popinara on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

caps lock is awesome

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Mar 9, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Jets RB needs

The jets definitly need to draft another RB but I think we need to wait until the 4th round (unless we get a third between now and draft day). I would like to see us pick someone with a little speed and elusiveness that can catch the ball well out of the backfield because we don’t know how well Washington is going to recover from his injury (or if he will be back) and I think Greene is good enough between the tackles to serve as the Jets power runner. A runner of that type that may be available in the fourth round is James Starks from Buffalo.

by tomjet on Mar 9, 2010 1:35 AM EST reply actions  

The more I think about it, the more I want Gerhart on this team.

His power (never gets brought down by the first guy), his suprisingly deceptive speed, his footwork, his vision, his patience, the way he sets up his blocks and lets plays develop… He’s the perfect back for this team. And Greene is the perfect complimentary guy. I think we HAVE to take him with the second pick.

After watching the hi-lite film (above) again, I gotta say how suprised i was at how explosive he is. It gets hidden some bc of his patience, he lets his blocks develop. But when he sees the hole he explodes. He’ll never be a guy to take a sweep for 80 yrds, but thats not what we really want in our backs anyway. We want to grind on you and wear you out. Thats what makes Gerhart perfect. He’ll let our line dominate and wear down the front seven, then he’ll burst past/thru the backers and onto the secondary where he’ll just be utter hell to deal with for four quarters. Imagine being a DB and having that guy just coming at you full throttle again and again and again. Then he gets a breather, and here come another 230 pounder thats explosive and physical. It just makes you wanna quit. Makes you wanna fake a hammy or a quad or something.

Yeah get me some Gerhart. I don’t care how late some mocks have him going. He’s OUR guy. Go get him Tanny.

by Crackback on Mar 9, 2010 2:12 AM EST reply actions  

He’s got more of a man crush on this guy than I have on Shipley lol

Can see where he is coming from though.

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 9, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol. I admit it. Close call btw Gerhart and Shipley for me though. Im actually hoping Leon gets picked, even if its by the Pats (blasphemy), just so we can get Gerhart and Shipley.

by Crackback on Mar 9, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

PFT

are reporting that the 49’ers have spoken to Leon Washington, although no visit is scheduled, there is interest. They have a decent 2nd round pick as well.

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 9, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

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