Pennington and Miami Hit a Snag
by John B on Mar 5, 2010 7:49 AM EST
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Chad Pennington and the Dolphins have hit a hang up in their negotiations.
The anticipated re-signing of Chad Pennington with the Miami Dolphins has been snagged by the veteran quarterback's desire to have a no-trade clause in his contract, according to team and league sources.
Pennington and the Dolphins were expected to reach an agreement on a one-year $2.5 million contract on Thursday afternoon before the stumbling no-trade block, according to another team interested in the quarterback.
Pennington, who is recovering well from his third shoulder surgery, has willingly agreed to serve as Miami's No 3 quarterback, mentoring Chad Henne and Tyler Thigpen, as well as Pat White, whose role seems unclear for 2010. Henne is the starter but the team is very impressed with Thigpen, hoping he can reduce his turnovers. White was used on a limited basis in some Wildcat and option plays.
That seems like a pretty reasonable request. I'm not sure how much the Dolphins want him back. It seems to me this wouldn't be a major hurdle, but it's tough to tell what the thought process is there. Are they willing to guarantee him a roster spot and potentially admit they made a mistake taking Pat White in the second round after just one year?
I guess this means hope is still alive for those of us wanting him back. I still don't see it happening. The Dolphins have every reason to bring him back as a mentor to Chad Henne. If they don't you'd have to think he'll have the chance to at least compete for a starting job elsewhere. I mean there are so many teams with lousy quarterbacks. I don't think he'll come back to the team he left so bitterly to hold a clipboard. Who knows, though.
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We all know how high a football IQ Chad has. But his body could never match up with his talent however, and Jets fans always thought they were missing something with Chad. The Big arm and verticle game to be specific. However, word from every QB’s coach and OC that serves with him is always the same. His true gift was teaching. Chad will be a head coach one day thats for sure. But when I think about all the things he can do to mentor Sanchez It makes me WISH he were still here. I hope he finds his way back here.
BRING CHAD HOME
That’s all there is to say, really.
The weather's better in Miami....
If Miami can get beyond the no-trade clause, why would Pennington leave. He’s being paid $2.5 million this year as a third string QB, after several surgeries.
It would be great to have him back to mentor Sanchez, but looking at it from his view, what would gain by returning to N.Y.?
And that doesn’t even recognize any possible animosity at the way his release was handled.
Love to have him back as the back-up, but gotta wish him well (except in division games). Still don’t see him playing much, unless the others really tank.
Oh I completely agree with you
There’s no reason why if Miami wanted him back he shouldn’t stay, from his perspective. That said, I hope the Dolphins make the mistake of not bringing him back. :)
Why does Mark need a mentor? He’s had a year at the helm already. He’s got coaches. He’s already diligently studying last year’s cut-ups.
If you love Chad and just want him to be a Jet then just say that. But the mentor thing doesn’t fly. You’re either good or you’re not. You learn by playing, not by having someone looking over your shoulder and telling you how to check down so you can keep your completion percentage up. The page has been turned on Chad. He brings nothing to the table aside from nostalgia. Nothing.
So your telling me you never ever heard in the past of an older QB helping to mentor another?
If so, then why would Miami want Pennington back as a 3rd Stringer?
Pennington has the highest (or second highest) completion percentage in the history of the league. He also has 10 more years in the league then Sanchez. The amount of intelligence that Pennington could share with Sanchez is near limitless.
Please NBC, Fire Milbury, Hire Roenick Full time!!!
Capt. Checkdown only has a high completion percentage bc he threw everything to the backs. And i hope the Fins take Chad back bc if we knock Henne and Thigpenout , old chicken-wing won’t stand a chance against us. Sanchez could’ve used a mnetor last year. The time has passed for a mentor. He’s already been further in the post-season than Chad. He makes throws Chad can’t fathom. He’s more mobile than Chad. Sanchez is every bit as intelligent as Pennington, has just as much heart, has much more physical ability, and will be ten times the QB by the end of next year.
Sanchez will make the reads the coaches tell him to make. He doesn’t need a mentor to make reads. And when he doesn’t follow the script, he will make plays with his head and his feet that Capt. Checkdown could NEVER do (e.g. pump fake Freeney for 60 yrd TD to streaking receiver in stride in AFCC). This is Mark’s team now. If Miami wants Chickenwing Checkdown, let them have him. He’s got nothing to offer here.
Saying a young QB could’nt use a mentor is like saying he dosnt need a QB’s coach. Chad was great at protecting the ball and he is touted as the next great QB’s coach. Sanchez is currently operating on a RED LIGHT, GREEN LIGHT 1-2-3 risk assesment passing game like he’s a toddler. He threw 20 picks this season and single handedly took this team out of close games with immature decisions. How do you REALLY know he’s past that? I absolutely dissagree that Chad has nothing to offer to this team. Look at it this way. Who would you rather have as a back up on this team. Chad or Clemens?? Please dont say Clemens. Cause then it dosn’t make my point. lol
WHAT???? DID YOU WATCH ANY OF THE PLAYOFF GAMES???
You cannot possibly tell me he’s the same QB from earlier in the season. The throws he made in the Colts game alone is far beyond anything Chad could comprehend. Because of Chad’s weak arm, he was very limited in th type of throws he could make, and therefore very limited in his reads. Mark can throw it in places that wouldnt enter Chad’s thought process. Chad can’t help Mark.
It is entirely up to Mark how good he becomes. Chad’s checkdowns will only help to hold him back.
Mark has superior physical attributes compared to Chad, but that doesn’t mean he can’t learn anything from him. Otherwise all coaches would be rendered useless. I’m on board with colin here in thinking Chad would be a great mentor. I would agree with Miami here though and keep him as a third QB if possible. Anyhow, like John said, I don’t think he would come back either so it’s not really much of an issue for me.
agreed
Its not likely that he comes back. He does have a good thing with the Fins
So he’s convinced you that his days of throwing bad picks are behind him because he played well in the playoffs? I would love to believe that but I dont. Peyton Manning threw 28 picks his first year. His next 4 years were just as bad . 2nd 15 picks 3rd 15 picks 4th 23 picks. MARK SANCHEZ IS PICK PRONE. Two playoff wins isn’t enuff to convince me that he could’nt benefit from a veteran showing him how to protect the ball. He’s only 22 years old. You can’t possibly tell me that a 22 y/o could’nt use a mentor. Am I saying we should break the bank to bring Chad back? NO. Am I saying Chad should be on the field for even one snap? HELL NO. I am however saying that if the oportunity is there I would rather have Chad Pennington at #3 with the headset on then Kellen Clemens at #2. Thats all I am saying.
Would you believe that Chad Henne had a better year then Mark Sanchez? I consider this Hennes rookie season because he only played in three games his first year so I think its a perfect comparison. How about Chad Hennes 14 turnovers to Marks 23. Henne out performed Mark in every stat including Yards, TD, YPA and QB rating. Is that cause Henne is a better QB then Mark. No Way! Henne isn’t half as talented as Mark. But he out performed him in their first year as starter because he had Chad Pennington as a mentor.
Henne had 2 training camps and overa season to ingest the offense. Mark was thrown to the wolves. To equate them is disingenuous.
All Chad knows how to do is protect the ball. He doesn’t know how to strap a team on his back and take them to victory. He can’t teach Mark how to take smart chances and play aggressive, and threaten the defense all over the field. Yeah he can show him how to check it down, but who the hell can’t do THAT. I want to be able to threaten defenses on 3rd and long. Not check it down to Leon EVERY FREAKIN TIME and hope that he pops through. No thanks. I don’t want Mark picking up any bad habits from Capt Checkdown.
I think Mark will benefit from checking down every once in awhile especially with Leon back in the lineup (assuming Leon is good to go). And if Chad could teach Mark how to protect the ball, I would consider that a success. I don’t think that having Chad mentor Mark would make Mark turn into him. Now, I’ve never been any kind of a coach or teacher, but I figure it would be more a matter of learning little nuances here and there as opposed to learning how to play like Chad.
I agree that the Henne/Sanchez comparison is a bit much though.
My comparison of the two wasn’t ment to compare the two as players. Just to try and show value in a back-up that can help a QB mature instead of a back-up like Kellen who looked lost when we needed him the most. Henne Is clearly benefiting from having Pennington mentor him. Sorry for the confusion. lol
That’s what I meant. Although I agree that Pennington would be a good mentor, it’s a bit much to chalk up Henne’s season entirely on Pennington’s tutelage.
I didn’t chalk up his success ENTIRELY to Pennington. I said he benefited from having him as a mentor
Was Pennington even there after his injury? Was working with him in practices and watching film with him? Was he talking to him in between series on game day and analyzing photos and discussing keys and coverages?
Henne played well bc Henne is a good player. Capt Checkdown didnt help Henne do anything. Henne put in the time and worked for his success.
Apparently you can’t. You can only learn from guys named “Coach” or “Coordinator”.
And actually Pennington WAS on the sideline after his injury. Most of the time wearing a coaches headset and calling in the plays to Henne. But Im sure it didn’t help to have a veteran QB call in plays to an inexperienced QB.
Pennington did also sit with Henne on the sidelines during games talking about… well probably nothing actually. By the look of it they were going over coverage photos. But by CRACKBACKS account they were probably just looking at pics of the coaches wife.
He was probably saying, “Hey Chad look at this… see all those DBs? Theres Safeties and corners everywhere man. Why risk throwing it that way when you can just check it down to a back? You can only throw it so far you know. Just lob it over to Ricky with some extra touch on it. Nobody puts air under ‘em like me you know. Heck, Girl Scouts can catch my throws. How do you think I got my completion percentage so high? Just lob that sucker out into the flat nice and easy. Ricky will catch it and run, don’t worry about a thing. Coach don’t care about the first down, just don’t turn it over no matter what you do. Make a nice safe throw Chad. Nice and easy partner. Don’t forget to put some extra touch on that sucker.”
Not even talking about him coming back anymore, but just as a player. Sure, he didn’t have a rocket arm, but I always felt he could get the ball where it needed to go (unless it was over 40 yards downfield). Short and intermediate routes were his thing, and he did them well. That’s all.
In all seriousness, Chad couldnt make any throws except the lobs to the flats. He was never really starter material. He never threw for over 4000 yards in a season, he went over 3000 yards only 3x, he threw over 20 TDs only once, and he’s 2-4 in the playoffs.
Btw Mark Sanchez also has 2 post-season wins.
I totally agree with that. With or with out an experienced QB to guide him, Sanchez will be a much better QB. I just look at it a lil differently in that Chads checkdown habits wouldn’t rub off on Mark as much as accuracy in terms of interception. I am not in love with Chad’s bad habits to check-down but I would have perfered him over Kellen
Ugh
Why are you guys so stuck on Pennington. He cannot complete any long throws and did not have that much of a career as a Jet. When he got hurt we had Vinny comein for him and did just as well. I swear, if it was for Curtis Martin we would have really sucked.
Great guy but was not a fit with the Jets. Cant we just move on. Its like an ex that was really good in the physical relationship but just wasnt marriage material. Let her go!
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