Free Agent/Tender/Trade Options: A Collection
by David_Wyatt on Mar 4, 2010 6:37 PM EST
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PrintRight now Jets topics are buzzing, everyone has their own unique idea on how the Jets should manage the current roster, who should be brought in, who should be let go. Well we are hours away from the madhouse that is free agency getting under way. So perhaps it's time we collected all these people that we could be looking at.
Right here are the ones that I have hard about, if you have heard of any more then just post them up in the comments section and we will get to them:
1) Starting with the popular Antrel Rolle
This only makes sense if we plan to move Kerry Rhodes, and I just don't see that happening. The reason Arizona released Rolle is because he was due for a $4 million roster bonus to go on top of his $8.1 million salary next season. A lot of teams are interested, the Bears reportedly are going to go in big. The Cardinals are going to go back in, and rumour is he wants to return to Arizona. Although I wouldn't mind him, I just don't see it happening.
2) Kerry Rhodes for Anquan Boldin or a 3rd round pick
This could tie in with the Rolle incident. Arizona would only want Kerry if they don't get Rolle back. However that means that they are going to try and get him back, and if they don't achieve that, it means he has signed with another team. Could that be the Jets, I'm not sure we are willing to give up the $7-8 mill he is looking for and then hope Arizona are still interested in Kerry.. I personally don't want to trade Rhodes, he had a down year by everyone's standards, but he has shown he can perform. I want to give him another year in this system. I know that's not the popular choice, but I think it's the best one for the Jets right now.
3) 2nd round offer for Richard Marshall
Carolina have tendered Richard Marshall with a 2nd round choice. Now if we are looking at spending one of our first two picks on a corner, we have to seriously consider Richard Marshall. He likes to hit, he is a physical guy and he makes plays on the ball. I'm not sure what kind of money he is looking for, but I would file this one under consider it.
4) Trade For Cromartie
I think everyone knows my feeling on this, and one word sums it up. Pass. He was give every chance this year, he didn't perform, fans were screaming for his benching half way through the season. He ducks out of contact a little too much. Jets fans were getting on Kerry for this, well Cromartie would drive you just as crazy and we would have to give up value to get him. Among all these trades, this is the one I dislike the most. His countless maternity cases might become a distraction, especially if he forgets to pay maintenance like he did this year.
I think Matt is covering this tonight, so won't say much, other than pass. Braylon isn't going anywhere with the 1st and 3rd on him, so it's pointless talking about Brandon Marshall.
Released by the Colts, some seem to think this is a good move, potentially to replace Strickland I can see it, doesn't sort out our #2 cornerback spot though. Think he has started 7 games over the last two years.
It's hard to analyse a single player when they play on such a bad team. He was released by the Lions, worth taking a look at at least?
Released by the Bengals, and yes fans have been talking about him. We went there once, we revisited for a second go, third time the charm?
9) Chris Baker
Former Jet, he has to go in here. Pariots released him
10) Jamal Williams
Released by the Chargers, a NT, only started one game in 2009 and will be turning 34 next month.
I think that's all I can manage right now, anyone else have people that we could should be looking at when the new year starts. Lots of options, plenty of variety. I just hope Mike T doesn't trade for Cromartie.
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I didn’t say he did, I said Braylon has a 1st and 3rd on him, so he is not going anywhere.
We can’t afford to give up another first for Marshall. No way, no how.
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Here's a good reason to pass on Marshall
I stole the link for TJ from OnceYouAreAJet’s post and went to WR’s. http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=WR&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
Marshall is ranked 32nd overall, Boldin 18th. Boldin’s available for a third (which obviously we’d have to obtain from elsewhere), not a first. Better receiver (which I happen to agree with) for a lower pick? I don’t know anything about PFF’s record, but they have a football web site and I don’t so I’ll give them some props.
Go Jets
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I would give up a first for Marshall immediately, Improving Cromartie’s game, Sanchez’s game, Braylon’s game, J-Co’s game, and possibly Revis’.
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It makes no sense, he is identical to Braylon, just doesn’t block as well. You don’t give $$$ for that and you don’t spend a first in a draft like that for a one year rental. It makes no sense to do that, Sanchez needs a slot receiver, not another prima who has just been tangled up in a murder case, arrested numerous times before, and dropped more balls than Braylon last year.
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I like Richard Marshall,
I just don’t know if I want to move a second rounder for him. I probably would do it at the end of the day, but it hurts knowing you probably lose Shipley by doing that. I like Marshall, he definitely does like to hit, and he definitely is a playmaker. All of the prognosticators loved him coming into the year, and he was pretty good, on a bad Carolina team. 88 tackles for a cornerback, 4 picks, 9 PD’s. He is a youngster too, just turned 25. I would be cool with this I think.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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Yer I definitely think we need to consider it. If we do lose Leon for a 2nd round pick, I’m straight on the phone to Marshall’s agent. Picking him up and still having a 2nd round selection. Well that would help us out a lot. While I don’t want to lose Leon, I think there can be a positive come from it.
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He ducks out of contact a little too much. Jets fans were getting on Kerry for this, well Cromartie would drive you just as crazy and we would have to give up value to get him. Among all these trades, this is the one I dislike the most. His countless maternity cases might become a distraction, especially if he forgets to pay maintenance like he did this year.
To be fair, it is a bit different when a 6’3, 215 pound safety is ducking away from contact, as opposed to the cornerback who is paid to be a ball hawk. If Kerry Rhodes was the thief that Cromartie is it would be different. Yeah, Cromartie hasn’t lived up to his 10 INT year, with only 5 the last 2, but he is young, playing hurt in 2008, and on a meh defense compared to the 2007 defense he played on when he killed it. That was the season Merriman racked up the sacks and the Chargers pass rush was phenomenal. Quick read, jump the route, that’s where Cromarties strengths are, that is what we would allow him to do. At this point, I really don’t know what I would say Rhodes strengths are. Good coverage on TE’s some of the time? He doesn’t hit people or make plays on the ball, I am just tired of seeing Rhodes here.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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I meant to say, about Merriman, that 2007
was the last season he racked up the sacks.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
There is no excuse for not hitting someone when they are there, I was reading some Chargers forums with posts from mid-season and it was almost unanimous that he should be benched. He was still athletic out there and the playing hurt thing only effected him when he needed an excuse. He used to hit people when he first come into the league and now he plays too hesitant. He is nowhere near the player he was, and getting him and hoping he returns would be a bad move IMO. Richard Marshall over him anyday, I wan’t a corner who can cover, ball hawk and hit someone. Marshall can do all three, put him in our system and he will have his best year, and he has been pretty damn good lately, so that shows you how much. Head over to the Carolina board and see what they are saying about Marshall getting a 2nd, lot of them are pretty upset about it.
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agree
Marshall MUCH>>> Cromartie. But even if Mike T does make a move for Cro, I think hell play better under rex.
Honestly though,
I don’t care what San Diego fans think about Cromartie, because they don’t have the blitzing style that we do where he could jump the QB’s first read. I’m not saying lets go get him at all costs, but if they want Rhodes for Cromartie, I will carry Kerry Rhodes pretty boy ass to San Diego on my back.
I’m not saying Marshall isn’t good. I would take either of them I’m not sure how it became Marshall vs. Cromartie. I would take either one of them.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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I don’t want to trade Kerry unless we have a plan, I doubt we have a chance at Rolle, really think Arizona just released him to avoid the 4 mill and will give him a good contract. They said they want to re-sign him, rumours were he wanted to re-sign……
I’m not keep Kerry Rhodes at all costs, but I am, let’s not trade him without a backup plan.
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I think it was just a case of who would you prefer if you could have either, and Marshall just wins that hands down for me.
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So badly, I just want a playmaker on this defense.
Whether it be at safety, corner, OLB, wherever. Harris and Scott are great, so is Jenkins and of course Revis, but I want a guy like Cromartie or Ed Reed or Darren Sharper, or even Nick Collins or Jairus Byrd, to a lesser extent, just a ball hawk who is going to pick off 8, 9, 10 passes for us. We had such a great defense with only Darrelle Revis as our one true stud (I count Harris in that category too, but I’ll give it one more year), and Revis doesn’t take the ball away as much as he just takes guys out of the game, which is just as important, probably more, but I would love to see this defense with a true play maker who can score TD’s for us on defense.
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Which is where I think we disagree, I think Marshall is more likely to be able to pick 8/9/10 passes than Cromartie.
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exactly. with revis on the other side, it allows a more agressive corner i.e. marshall, or even my favorite corner out of the draft (besides hayden) Kyle Wilson to excel. Cormartie is more of a pure cover guy.
I just love the physical style of Marshall, put him in press, and when he comes up to support the run,l he is going to stick his head, shoulders, knees, everything in there. Love that kind of corner personally.
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and I want a golden tricycle lol. Its not like defensive studs grow on trees though
Why the fuck would you want a golden tricycle? And grow on trees? Clearly we don’t need a tree, because we just got my stud for a 3rd round pick.
Cormartie is more of a pure cover guy.
No, he is a ball hawk.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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Adalius Thomas
Dont think he’s been officially dropped yet, but I think he should be way up on the Jets list.
Maybe I’d give Cromartie a shot if he can get his reading to a fourth grade level.
If he does get dropped, I think it’s 90%+ he ends up in New York, he wants to play with Ryan again surely, a guy who got the most out of him. I completely forgot about him, otherwise he would be up there.
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also saw B Scott said they were hanging recently and discussing things. Thomas would mesh well in the Jets locker room as well I feel. Only downside you can point to is his age, but again I believe he’s got enough left, plus motivation (a lot being against a huge division rival)
Yer I think he has some gas in the tank, and heard he felt pretty peeved about being reprimanded for missing team meetings when it wasn’t his fault. Possible go at the Patriots could add further motivation to him.
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Another player that was just mentioned to me on twitter. Charles Grant….DE released by the Saints. Torn Bicep in week 17……injury issues, production tailed heavily….just thought would throw it out there.
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Richard Marshall
I see all the talk about Adalius Thomas. What about Joey Porter? The man can still get to the quarterback and likes to flap his gums. Wouldn’t he fit right in with the Jets? I agree on considering to give up our 2nd round pick for Richard Marshall. I think he might be better than the corners in the draft. Plus we have to remember that there is a learner curve that every rookie has to go through when they get in the NFL. At least Marshall has the experience and is young. If we signed either Thomas or Porter would that mean we don’t have to draft a pass rusher with our first round pick?
by Christopher Ramos on Mar 4, 2010 7:16 PM EST reply actions
I HATE Joey porter
hes old, getting older. he was about half as productive as 08. uncoachable. not to mention hes probably the most hated divisional opponet.
Would Joey Porter be here, always running his mouth against the Jets, how he hates everything about us etc etc. I think he is running out of gas, and he thinks he is better than what he is. Could ruin the locker room
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Very very very distant possibility.
He has a massive contract with a lot of guaranteed money, and we still need to pay Nick and Revis. Don’t think we will pump that much money in the #2 CB spot, as well as what it would take to get him, likely a couple of first rounders.
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