Running Backs by Round
by Crackback on Mar 19, 2010 12:12 PM EDT
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There are some of us that believe that the signing of LD is a signal that Leon's departure is imminent. If Leon is traded or signed by another team, we will need to address our running back situation. Luckily, this year's draft class is loaded with talent. Here are my suggestions for who we should target in each round.
Round 1:
- Ryan Matthews, Fresno State-- 6'0", approx 220, 4.4. Hands down the best back in the draft. Excellent vision, speed, power and balance. Runs with aggression but can also make you miss. Very difficult to get a clean shot on and very difficult to take down. Has a one-cut style where he plants and bursts through an opening. He reminds me a lot of Tomlinson, except he's bigger and faster and less averse to contact. He has true potential for greatness. Although I'm not a proponent for trading up in this draft, in his case I make an exception. He's the real deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4kGNjdFgpg
Round 2:
- Toby Gerhart, Stanford -- 6'1", 235, 4.5. If ever there was a perfect match as far running style and scheme, its this man and this team. He's a big, punishing back with excellent patience and vision. He also has surprising agility and deceptive speed. Partnered up with Greene and behind our zone-blocking scheme, our backfield could become the most feared in all of football. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzCzj3fdET0
- Ben Tate, Auburn -- 5'11", 220, 4.43, 26 reps on the bench press. An explosive and powerful runner. 4th all-time leading rusher at Auburn, which is no small feat considering the company he's in (Bo Jackson, Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown Stephen Davis, etc.). He has the power to run between the tackles and the speed to bounce it outside and take it to the house. He doesn't seek contact but he doesn't shy away from it either. He's supremely confident and isn't shy about telling you good he is. Nothing wrong with displaying a little swag on the Jets. He'd fit right in with us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGn0OZE_3X4
Round 4:
- LeGarrette Blount, Oregon -- 6'0", 240, 4.5. Phenomenal talent who will slip because of misperceptions about his character (i.e. the infamous punch). If he slips this far, its an absolute steal. He's a monster when he runs with the football. A big man who's incredibly athletic and agile. He has the ability to elude tacklers who take poor angles but he's not affraid to square up punish you if you get in his way. He will be fresh due to being suspended for most of the year, as well as his carries being limited in the style of offense run in Oregon. He was stuck in a spread offense while in college and I can only salivate at the prospect of pairing him up with a blocking TE, a FB, and a zone-blocking scheme. He would thrive in our offense. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ymd_IMlmI, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jeQlJ4fvms
- Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State-- 6'1", 235, 4.6. Much like Blount he's an excellent blend of power, speed and agility. Also like Blount, he was stuck in a shot-gun styled offense and got most of his carries on draw-type plays. 4 year starter and led the SEC in rushing last season. Big, strong, tough kid. Runs with aggression and is unaffraid of contact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R07yQOIMCUM
Round 5:
- Joique Bell, Wayne State. 6'1", 220, 4.6. As a senior, was named the Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (Division 2) player of the year after leading the nation in rushing (189.4 ypg), scoring (17.5 ppg) and all-purpose yards (217.5 ypg). Bell became fourth Division II player to rush for more than 2,000 yards in a season, finishing with 2,084...caught 23 passes for 293 yards and 3 TDs. This guy has it all: vision, balance, strength, elusiveness, power speed, hands, and a rare tenacity that I've seen in very few backs. Yes he's that good. Scary good. He has the potential to be great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maJGf5asUVY
I don't have selections for rounds 6-7 because I don't think its worth it to wait that long.
I obviously prefer big backs. But everybody is different. I was man-crushing on Gerhart for a long time, but I think I'm now on the Matthews bandwagon. I've been looking at him closer since more and more mocks have him in our range with the 29th pick. I also find it ironic that we acquired LD, whom he's strikingly similar to (thank you nrmax88 for putting me onto this). Can't lose with Matthews.
What do you guys think? Should we target a RB in the draft if Leon moves on? If so, who and when?
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If Leon Moves on than…yes I agree. Having said that we need to go for a big back with speed and power vs. Small & shifty
I mean think about it Greene is going to get the majority of the carries, with LDT as the back up, what does another big back add to that...
Yes LDT may not be here long, or be close to what he was, but he’s the back-up and is going to get his shot before anyone else, if he needs to be replaced next year, we address it next year. You draft a big back right now he’s #3 and adds nothing more to the team than insurance.
Now if we take a speed back (who can catch), we have insurance for Leon (or a replacement for him if hes dealt) that can actually be worked in as a change of pace from Greene or LDT, plus can be used as a third down receiving option. Not to mention a speed guy usually is much more useful on special teams as a return man something we will definitely need if Leon is gone, or not the same. And even if Leon comes back 100% he’s going to be 28.
Mathews is bigger than LDT? I thought LDT was 22_*1*_ lbs :P and also I hope that’s in comparison to CURRENT LDT, not in-his-prime LDT.
Also I sense a severe lack of Ben Tate :( although I guess he’s projected as a 3rd rounder?
No, he is a scat back,
and he will looks like he could go in the first. If he was there in the 4th, yeah, perfect, but not as a first round pick.
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Best ran a 4.34. Johnson ran a 4.24. Best is not in Johnson’s league. Johnson has proven he take NFL hits over a season to boot. Best can’t stay healthy in college, and since he’s not nearly as fast as Johnson he will take much more punishment in the NFL Best will never be a featured back, and if he is he won’t last.
Not saying they are the same, just that was the knock on CJ coming out as well...
I actually think Spiller is the closest thing to Chris Johnson, and also by far a better prospect than Matthews.
why would we take a running back in the 1st two rounds? we have a 2nd year starting running back and LT on the roster right now. we also would probably bring back brad smith if we didnt bring back leon and he can return and run the wildcat. we dont need to invest too much on a running back just yet.
1. Because Ryan Matthews is that dude. LT is only here for a year, two tops, and every good running team uses at least 2 backs. Matthews and Greene would be a great combo.
2. Brad Smith is not a running back. Why does he always get brought up in the RB equation? He can run like a handful of times out of the QB position, but he isn’t going to take any hand offs.
3. The Jets don’t run the wildcat. The Dolphins do, and are the only team who really run the wildcat. Snapping the ball to somebody who will run the ball, a direct snap, isn’t wildcat. Wildcat is a formation. It involves an unbalanced line, it’s when the runningback/receiver comes in motion, starting split out, and the snap of the ball coincides with the motion guy crossing the other RB, who is lined up taking the snap. The Jets don’t run wildcat. They ran some direct snaps, and they ran some option sets, but neither is the wildcat. Miami is the only team who really runs the wildcat.
Just snapping the ball to somebody who isn’t the regular quarterback isn’t wildcat. Why take Matthews? Because him and Greene can be a dominant pair of runners for a very long time.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
by nrmax88 on Mar 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Well said.
Very well said. Most people don’t get it…
Matthews is the same type of runner as TJ and not at all a good compliment to Greene...
C.J. Spiller is hands down the best back in the draft, and actually is the perfect compliment to Greene. Great receiver, great speed guy, very comparable to Chris Johnson.
You, my friend, are on crack.
There are no similarities between Matthews and TJ. None. TJ is a skater who likes to duck behind his o-line and gets downhill in a hurry when he finds an opening; he’s not elusive and he’s not one to break tackles. Matthews is a superb back who is a one-cutter (i.e. plants and goes) who explodes up field. Matthews is elusive, breaks tackles, and has great hands.
CJ Spiller is a bust waiting to happen. He’s a 3rd down back at best. All he does is try to bounce everything outside and use his speed to crack off a long run. Only problem is he doesn’t have CHris Johnson speed. He’s absolutely allergic to contact and rarely breaks tackles. He will get hit in the NFL and he won’t like it. He will be just like most scat backs and have a flashy year or two, but when he takes a couple on the chin he’ll bounce right out of the league.
I've said it before (I dunno if on here) but CJ Spiller reminds me of Reggie Bush
Except not as versatile. I dunno why people are so incredibly high on him.
To be honest though I don’t think I’ll ever be SUPER DUPER high on an RB till the next coming of Barry Sanders :\
Wrong wrong wrong, every comparison I've read says they are the same go read Lindy's or SS...
and most consider him no better than the 4-5th bets back in the draft. I saw him two games last year, and was not impressed, he may not be exactly the same as TJ, but he is going to fill the same role, and has the same basic skills. Matthews just makes no sense for the Jets, unless your assuming Greene isn’t going to cut it and LDT is completely done (yes he may be, but if the Jets signed him I don’t think they do), otherwise he’s a waste of a roster spot taken early that adds nothing unless the two guys in front of him aren’t playing.
If we take an RB we need to look for speed/receiving skills, Leon is the biggest question mark in the backfield, not Greene or even LDT considering his role.
I'll take Mathews over Spiller,
I don’t even have to think about it.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
^^ Ridiculous.
Spiller won’t be chris johnson but he’ll have a more successful career than Ryan Matthews. P.S everyone knows SD is going to take Matthews, which means he is going to get no blocking at all. So don’t expect him to light it up his first year.
Spiller will be a flash in the pan if he’s lucky enough not to get injured. He’ll have two good years, if that. Matthews will be the NFL’s next great back and will a HOFer if in the right system.
Matthews does not have the speed or ability to ever be anything close to a great back...
let alone a HOF. He’s a Kevin Jones type, who at best will be a marginal starter his whole career. He is not LDT he doesn’t have close to his natural talent (in his prime I mean) he’s TJ without TJ’s speed (in his prime) he needs to have tons of carries to wear down D’s and be paired with a fast tail back to ever be truly effective.
Matthews runs a 4.4!!!!
He’s faster, stronger and breaks more tackles than TJ. We’ll see how he compares to LD in time. Starting RBs that are good tend to get a lot of carries, I don’t think he needs to get a lot of carries to be effective though.
How does being paired with a fast back make another back more effective? That makes no sense to me. Teams like to use a speedster on 3rd down bc they are more likely to pop through for a first down; not because they make the starter more effective.
A 4.45, and 4.49, at the combine, not that I think that makes him fast, combines dont prove much, Gholston case in point
In perspective though, TJ ran a 4.43 at his , and that was also a lot better than expected for Matthew’s, because most don’t see it in his game. As for strength I don’t think you will find a back stronger than TJ in his prime, he did 24 reps at his combine, and only got stronger in the NFL (Matthews did 19, which was less than Tate, Gerhart, and McCulster among others this year).
Of course we will see thats what the draft is about, but most experts disagree with your take, one of the biggest things I have seen on him is that he will need a lot of carries to be effective, and that he will need a speed back to compliment him (something most said about Greene, as well coming out), thats what we have/had not what we need.
My point overall is just Matthew’s is a reach in the first round, for a team that needs (or potentially needs) an all around #1 grinding back. Thats certainly does not describe the Jets needs at RB, that describes what they have, so to reach for him in the first would be a huge mistake. Even if you really feel they need depth and security in that spot (I don’t rather see someone who makes a difference this year, or has a definite role in the next couple) I’d much rather see them take Gerhart in the 2nd or Blount/Dixon later, as they have just as much chance to be just as good as Matthew’s.
Curtis Martin and Emmitt Smith ran around a 4.5. Matthews ran a low 4.4 at his pro day. 4.4 is plenty fast. So you’re saying he ran slow at the combine, but combines don’t prove anything bc of Gholston. Not really sure what point youre trying to make because you contradict yourself.
Lower leg strength is much more telling than bench press reps. If you can show me how bench reps translate to on-field production I’d be very appreciative. 19 reps is fine.
Most of the so-called “experts” prove year in and year out that theyre no more experts than the rest of us.
Greene has injury issues and is better served being utilized as a second back, split carries at best. The Jets ground and pound philosophy requires two large backs that can pound on defenses and wear them down. Matthews potential for greatness should not be overlooked.
The entire piece is predicated on the loss of Leon. Re-read the first paragraph. And i still don’t get why you think it is necessary to have a complimentary speed back and how that makes the primary back better. Btw Greene was plenty effective without having a complimentary speed back.
You missed the point of the whole piece. The point was to illustrate who we should look to take if we decided to take a running back in a certain round. I wasn’t advocating that Matthews should be our first pick. I was saying that if the team identifies RB as its highest need, then Matthews should be taken with the first pick.
Ridiculous on your evaluation with Spiller.
Not saying Matthews won’t be good but HOF? why is he a late round pick then ? This is what Spiller will bring.
Dynamite playmaker with rare field speed – is rarely caught from behind. Can string moves together, jump out of his cleats and accelerate to top-end speed in a blink. Exceptional lateral agility and top-end burst to take the corner. Exceptional vision – sets up runs and once he finds a crease, he is a gone. Sees cut-back lanes and shows great balance to kick through arm tackles and string moves together. Extremely elusive in the open field with outstanding gear change. Terrific vision and traffic burst in the return game with rare return production. Has soft hands, tracks the ball well over his shoulder and catches in stride. Consistently separates on wheel routes. Played hurt most of his senior season and will play through injuries. Got more than 20 touches per game as a senior and has shown he can handle a heavy workload.
I have no doubt Spiller will be an explosive guy
who is capable of busting a huge play at any time, but is he an every down guy? Or is he a Sproles, Leon, Steve Slaton type of guy. If he is the latter, then especially in a draft of this magnitude, I think a first rounder is a mistake.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
I think he is an every down guy, closer to Chris Johnson than...
Sproles, Leon,or Slaton. Best on the other hand is probably only going to be Sproles/Leon/Slaton.
Still I think the team needs are that type of runner, but I wouldn’t waste our first rounder on that. Spiller on the other hand has a chance to be quite special, and may be worth the first rounder if he slips (although it also depends on who else is available).
Toby Gerhart would be a great 2nd round pick…I really don’t think the Coaching staff will draft any slot receiver…most likely
Round 1: Kyle Wilson
Round 2: Toby Gerhart
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EDIT:
Round 1: Jared Odrick…or a safety…
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Kyle Wilson wont be available at 29, plus I don't think CB is something we need rd1...
I think they go Odrick, or Mays, or obviously Iupati or Kindle if either slips.
and why would we need an angry TJ, so many needs why get an RB who will be #3 or 4 and adds nothing...
more than 1,2, or 3 does. Big RB makes no sense in this draft unless your talking 6-7th round.
Can't believe the oversight on Spiller here he's by far the better back than Matthews in this draft.
Matthews isn’t even consider a first round selection by many and would be a horrible fit for the Jets, Spiller on the other hand is the perfect lightning compliment to Greene’s thunder, and the only back I’d consider in the first.
by Judgegavel on Mar 19, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not an oversight
It has more to do with the fact that Spiller is projected as a top-15 pick. Unless the Jets move up, there’s no chance of landing Spiller. It really depends on what you think the Jets need most. If you are looking for insurance for Greene, you go after Gerhart or Tate. If you are looking for a replacement for Leon, you go for Jahvid Best. Also, what about Jonathan Dwyer?
More pressing needs
Personally I don’t think the Jets will draft a RB in the 1st round. They have more pressing needs at DE/OLB, O-line, S, and a slot WR. The Jets did just fine without Leon last year, drafting a 3rd RB should be low on their priority list.
IDK, I mean I agree they have more pressing needs, but if Spiller slips he may be to good to pass up...
they can then look to get a pick or 2 for Leon, if they haven’t already (by that time).
I think Leon was a 2nd round tender, so they can get 1 extra 2nd rounder,and then they can address more needs in this draft. I would use one of those second rounders on a RB, not the 1st pick. I also think Spiller dropping all the way to 29 is a pipe dream. If he happens to fall below 15, I’m guessing the Pats will draft him. They have 5 RBs on their roster, and not one of them would make the Jets roster. They need Spiller a lot more than the Jets do.
I agree, but you never know, on the off chance Spiller is there I would not let him pass. I never try to understand what the Pats are doing in the draft.
Stranger things have happened. A lot of people used to say the same thing about the Jets drafts, thankfully they seem to have turned the corner and have been making much better picks recently. I’ve got faith that the front office will make the right choice, whatever that may be.
The Pats are never going to draft an RB in the first round. Their offense is predicated on the passing game; they’re almost Colts-esque in the way they use their running game. If you noticed last year, they did pretty damn good on offense with a mediocre running game. They’re not going to value an RB that much that they’d spend a first round pick on one given their other more pressing needs (mainly on defense).
Spiller, Best and Dwyer were left off because they all are extremely over-rated in my opinion. Chris Johnson runs for 2k and everybody goes gaga over the fastest RBs in the draft. Neither Spiller or Best are good running backs. Dwyer is big but he’s a soft runner. I don’t like that, so he doesn’t make my list.
Over-rated maybe, but with Spiller and Best, you actually have backs that will compliment Greene...
and can replace Washington if they decide to trade him, or he’s not back 100%, which is very likely.
Compliment him how? By doing what? It makes no sense. You’re regurgitating nonsense you heard some “expert” say and thought sounded cool. Greene needs someone who can pound with him. Someone who can limit his carries and keep him fresh and injury-free. Another big back that can wear down a defense. They already have LD for 3rd down pass-catching duties.
Compliment him, by doing things he doesn't...
so if you find a defense that keys on Greene and the inside run by cheating the saftey you have a speed back that can run off tackle, sweeps, and catch screens to take advantage.
You add a back like Matthews and he adds nothing to your play book, or the dimension of your offense, all he adds is depth.
Also just a simple change of pace, it makes complete sense unlike Matthews or any backs...
you mention.
Greene doesn't need a back just like him to share carries, he needs something different
which would make him more effective.
OMFG your suddenly reinventing the two back running game, have two backs who have the same style would be moronic, and would hand cuff us. We need either a healthy Leon or a speed back in the draft nothing else.
Hey remember the Steelers back in ‘05? Just sayin’…
Personally I don’t think it really matters what style of RBs you have as long as they are both really good at what they do. If we keep Leon, I think we have that already. I would compare us to the Falcons two years ago with Burner Turner and Jerious Norwood, except Leon can do a lot more than Norwood can.
If we lose Leon Washington
Who do you propose replaces him? None of those backs are small and shifty. None are as much as a threat out of the backfield in the passing game, and I dont think either are effective at KR or PR. These are all fine if you are looking for an every down back, but none are that much of a change of pace, and none have the skill set Leon has.
There's a reason change of pace backs aren't picked until day 2.
Every down back > Change of pace back.
You wan’t Leon’s replacement, draft Darius Butler. Or sign some speedy guy like Bernard Scott off of somebody’s practice squad. It really isn’t that hard. Running back talent is the most abundant of any football position. It’s the reason why late round draft picks and undrafted free agents constantly make it in the NFL.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Whats even funnier is that I wouldn’t be suprised if no RBs go off the board in round 1. That and the fact that most consider Spiller and Best to be 1 & 2 respectively. If Spiller and Best don’t go until round two, and you have Matthews who will then go late 2nd to early 3rd, theres a lot of talent thats still on the board before the real run-off begins. So a TON of really good backs will still be there for the taking in rounds 3 and beyond. When you think about it, your DTs, OTs, DBs, Pass Rushers and scattered preium talents (QBs, WRs, TEs) will run off in the first round. So RBs won’t really begin to run-off until the 2nd and 3rd round. Therefore the pure scat-backs (McCluster and the like) shouldn’t start running off until like round 4.
You can bank on a premium Leon-type back being there in the 4th and later.
I agree,
there almost always is one, and in this draft that is deeper then any we have seen in a while, there certainly will be this year.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
I would be all over McCluster in Rd 3 or above, but I think he goes rd 2...
he’s better than a simple scat back, reminds me more of Sproles.
Yea but thats changing, and in this draft you have Best andMcCluster who are rare talents and will go before day 2...
well day 3 this year, lol.
Nothing rare about McCluster or Best.
Just solid scat backs, like Leon. 3rd-4th round material.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Best is more than a simple scat back, he's a super receiver along the lines of Reggie Bush...
McCluster scares me but he also reminds me of Sproles, and again is far more than a simple scat back. They are ranked by most as the #2 and # 3 RB’s in this draft after Spiller and will go way before the third round (well Best will, McCluster may drop because of his size).
Newsflash...
Reggie Bush sucks. Sproles is a 3rd down guy. McCluster weighs a buck-80 soaking wet.
And Newsflash Matthews has boarderline NFL starter talent, is not fast enough to run outside...
and for a big back he’s not that big and not that talented, he is a total reach in the first round. Everyone has their knocks. But Matthews is more of a risk for what he is, and what he is is not what we need.
BTW Bush only sucks cause his injury prone, Sproles is a game changer, and both are better third down backs than Leon, and both will probably have better careers than Matthews.
First of all, Reggie Bush doesn’t really suck if you consider his use on special teams, where he excels. Also, he’s a pretty good running back when he isn’t trying to bounce everything outside—unfortunately he always tries to bounce everything outside and fails at it.
Secondly, you REALLY believe that Sproles is better than Washington? Seriously? They both basically do the same things, except Washington is bigger and is better at rushing. If there is any difference in speed and elusiveness, it’s pretty damn near negligible. I’d take Washington over Sproles any day of the week.
by Exystence on Mar 23, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree, Bush doesn't suck, in a vacuum.
He is a solid runner (at times, he has shown the ability to run hard), probably the best receiving back in the NFL, and a crazy explosive punt returner, but as the second overall pick and all that money, that’s not what you are expecting. If that is what Spiller becomes, fine, that’s useful and all, but do you want to give out 10-20 million in guarantees on draft day to a scat back who is a good return man?
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
I would too.
As a free agent.
But I wouldn’t waste a first round pick on him, knowing what I know now.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Yes but I think more because of the injuries than the talent...
Even if Leon’s gone (which looks more and more likely), I don’t think we go RB in the first round for any reason, unless its Spiller, but I doubt he will be there.
Agree but...
I find it funny that when I posted the same exact thing about Sproles and Washington (my words: “anything Sproles can do, Leon can do better”) I was accused of homer bias.
What a difference the signing of Tomlinson makes.
Officially contributing to worldwide confusion since 1997
I still think it is homer bias.
If Leon is a better runner, it’s because his line is better. So what, Leon is bigger? Sproles is a better screen back, who is just as fast and elusive, if not faster and more elusive, then Leon. They are both dynamic.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
I agree 100% we need a change of pace guy not a big back to replace Leon if he goes...
or if he doesn’t come back 100%. I think the best match for us would be Spiller (who will probably be gone), but after that the only others I’d look at early at RB are Best and Dexter McCluster, also Gerhart although not an exact replacement for Leon he brings so many intangibles (amazing blocking and receiving) I think he adds another dimension we can consider.
You bring in a back like Matthews or Dwyer here, and it looks more like you brought in Greene’s replacement and/or back-up. I don’t think thats going to make Greene or LDT to happy, and realistically its a waste of a pick.
Lol....
also Gerhart although not an exact replacement for Leon he brings so many intangibles (amazing blocking and receiving) I think he adds another dimension we can consider
Ok, so first of all, I feel like it may be appropriate to point out that the 2 biggest weaknesses in Gerhart’s game are his blocking, and his receiving. Just saying. You criticize Ryan Mathews, saying he is too much like Thomas Jones, then suggest Gerhart, who is much more like Jones then Mathews is, citing his amazing blocking and receiving, when those are his 2 biggest weaknesses, which is hardly a secret. Interesting.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Seriously, have you read any scouting reports on him, he's the best blocking back in the draft...
and a very solid reciever. His big weaknesses are he fumbles, doesn’t have exploding speed, and may decide to play baseball.
Toby Gerhert, is the only back on that list I would even consider if I was the Jets, but your missing why...
Gerhert, has two huge skills that make him a much better fit for the Jets and an actual compliment for Greene (while the others are nothing more than back-ups/replacements for him), he is the absolute best blocker at RB in the draft, and is also a fantastic receiver. Gerhart will actually add something to the team, and could line-up on the field as the second back in a two back set, or be used on third down as a receiver or be your best option to protect Sanchez if he’s dropping back.
Again,
Gerhart is neither a fantastic receiver, or a good blocker. He has bad technique as a blocker, he just throws himself into guys, and while a decent receiver, he is below average in that department also. Where are you getting this from? I like Gerhart a lot, but you seem to have no idea what his strengths and weaknesses actually are.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Um again don't know where your getting this inaccurate info from...
Gerhart is one of the best blocking backs in the draft, and is a good receiver, Read SI, Lindy’s, SS, ESPN even (just stay away from SN they don’t know what they are talking about). Gerharts knocks are he fumbles, he’s missing that break away second gear, and he may decide to play baseball.
Lol. No.
He is a solid college football blocker who almost every scouting report says will have trouble in the NFL without changing his technique, knowing for throwing his body into ? Where are you coming up with this? Gerhart is a good looking back, but excellent blocker and receiveR?
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Every scout really, again read Lindy's, SS, ESPN...
To quote Lindy’s “Positives…Works hard to block defenders downfield or prevent defenders from chasing down his quaterback, cutting them if necessary, one of the best blocker in the draft. Good hands as a receiver, can adjust to poor throws and snatch the ball with his hands. Good feet to get in and out of routes, and tightrope the sideline…”
SN who are not my favorites but… “Blocking: Lacks experience as a lead blocker, but does have the aggressive mentality, toughness, size, and strength to be very effective. Knows his assignments and has the strength to hold his ground against pass rushers…”
Having watched all the highlite videos
The back I’m most impressed with is Anothny Dixon. Big, strong, punishing back. He is always falling forward and it takes more than one guy to bring him down. Think about it, you spend your whole day on defense tackling SG, 5’ 11" 225 LBS and AD, 6’ 1" 235 LBS. Entire defenses, not just CB’s, will be waking up Saturday morning in a cold sweat, screaming “the Jets are coming tomorrow!” I don’t think Leon will give us much until at least the midway point of the season, thus the pick up of LT. But he will be here beyond 2011. The style Rex is using calls for big backs. The Ravens, 4 years ago, had, what seemed like a full backfield and still drafted Le’ron McClain, 6’ 260 lbs. I think the Jets will go either WR or DL in first and second round. My choices are:
1st rd WR’s
Golden Tate, great speed and hands, excellent play maker that spent his entire career in a pro style offense run by C. Wies. Great choice for a slot receiver.
Demaryius Thomas. Size, 6’ 3" 229Lbs, great hands and speed, rumored scout tape has him running a 4.38 40 yds. He’s raw but I think he is worth the pick.
1st rd DL’s
Jared Odrick. The best 5 technique in this years draft.
Brian Price. I know, DT but I think he is athletic enough to slide over to the 5 tech spot. Check out his vid on youtube, he has a nonstop motor and is very disruptive.
2nd rd WR’s
Taylor Price. Good size, 6’ 1" 204 Lbs, good speed, 4.40 40 yds and a polished route runner. Gone under the radar because he played at Ohio U.
Arrelious Benn. Again good size and is a play maker. His stock has slipped a bit because he did not run well at the combine.
2nd rd DL’s
Tyson Alualu. See B. Price above
Cam Thomas. Good size, 6’ 3" 330 Lbs, great run stuffer that OL can’t move off the line. Also very athletic with good foot work that leads me to believe that he can be a 5 tech in our system.
Sleeper pick:
S Myron Rolle. Smart, Rhodes Scholer, good size, 6’ 2" 218 Lbs. Always around the ball. This is the kind of kid Rex wants patrolling the deep defensive backfield
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