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Scouting The Draft: Ben Tate, RB, Auburn

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A lot of people have been talking up Ben Tate for a while, I didn't really have that much interest through the season, he looked like a decent back, but nothing special. Never really took the time to sit down and watch any Auburn games, so only saw flashing highlights of him, and a few runs while I was channel flicking on ESPN360  Saturday afternoon's. However after the scouting combine, I had to take a look at him. Seemed rather under-appreciated to me, and he certainly thinks so as well, speaking post combine he remarked:

"I think a lot of people were surprised, a lot of the scouts and a lot of you guys in the media," said Tate, the Tigers' leading rusher the past three years. "But I knew what I could do the whole time. I've been telling y'all I was fast, but no one really wanted to listen to me. My coaches knew, and my family knew. "I think I've been underestimated my whole career. It drives me. It keeps me working hard."

I know I was surprised, especially with that 40 time, the image I had in my mind was more of a bruiser a guy with 4.5+ 40 speed, but he really surprised me by clocking a 4.43. Upon watching a little more of his game you can see the speed, but it's still deceptive at the line. We did have a representative at the Auburn pro day last week, but it seems like apart from positional drills, Ben Tate really didn't do a great deal. To be honest can you blame him, a few people questioned his speed, he ran a 4.43 to prove them wrong. One slip, one uncomfortable start, and he could well clock a little slower which would raise the questions again and hurt his stock.

He considers himself the best back in the country and listening to any interview, the guy definitely has "Swagger"

Career Stats

2006- 9 games, 54 attempts, 392 yards, 7.3 avg, 3 TD's. 2 receptions for -3 yards

2007- 13 games, 202 attempts, 903 yards, 4.5 avg, 8 TD's. 16 receptions, 144 yards

2008- 12 games, 159 attempts, 664 yards, 4.2 avg, 3 TD's. 15 receptions, 90 yards

2009- 13 games, 262 attempts, 1,362 yards, 5.2 avg, 10 TD's. 20 receptions, 105 yards

Combine Results

40 Yard Dash: 4.43

Bench Press: 26

Vertical: 40.5

Broad: 10'04

Three cone: 6.91

20 yard shuttle: 4.12

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What does Ben Tate Do Well?

First of all I have to say congratulations to Ben Tate to getting himself ready for the combine, those are impressive results right there, and it seems he worked his butt off to get there, ranking near the top in most categories, including the 40 and the bench press. Physical style back, 5'11 220lb's, he has nice size. Good downhill runner who works well inside, strong lower body to make arm tackles miss, he has some agility in the open field. Loves to lower his shoulder and take a defender head on. A pretty good blocker although definitely could get better, shows a lot of effort and commitment in this area. Was used at Auburn in several different offensive lines, lined up as a receiver at times, worked out of the slot, and has soft hands out of the backfield. Confidence is not a problem with him, but he seems to have the work ethic and dedication to go with it.

What does he need to improve on?

Although he has pace, he does take his time getting to the edge, and with everything quicker in the NFL, he might struggle if asking to draw it out side. Needs to work on his blocking, particularly his cut blocking, sometimes he seems to run blind, as in patience and vision are moved to the back of his mind to try and just use raw power and plough through traffic where there is a gap. Which is the one problem I see that has effected his stock more than any. Go back to the good old saying "you can't run over everyone in this league".

Final Word

Ben Tate is interesting because he has a lot to work on but he really started to show vast improvement in his senior year. Although he seems to think he is the best back coming out of college this year, I don't think so. He has a little more pace than someone like Gerhart, but I would never consider taking him over Toby. Lot of upside, tough runner, would suit a team that runs a man blocking zone, but for a zone blocking team that requires a little patience and vision, I'm not sure I would place Ben Tate and the Jets as a match. Not sure where his draft stock sits, read anywhere from the late 2nd to the late 4th. If we have not picked up a back earlier and we need one (If Leon leaves) and he is sitting there in the 4th. Would give it a whirl, but otherwise, Ben Tate has a lot of upside, a lot of potential, but don't think he suits the zone blocking we run.

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Great analysis. As usual. Rec'd.

I like him alot. Explosive and Powerful. Very tough to bring down. Reminds of a bigger version of Bradshaw of the Giants. I agree that Gerhart is the better fit, but if we couldnt land Gerhart wouldn’t mind snagging this kid at all.

by Crackback on Mar 15, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Gerhart rocked a 30 on the Wonderlic. Highest of all the backs. Just sayin.

by Crackback on Mar 15, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent write-up

I freaking love this guy, and I really feel like his downsides can be coached up. He’s a guy I think that could end up being the perfect guy to base your RB platoon around. He can do a little bit of everything, and he’s got loads and loads of confidence and desire to be the best which jives perfectly with the Jets’ attitude.

That said, yeah I acknowledge that Toby Gerhart is awesome too, but I think that if we pick him up it’ll be at too high a pick considering he’s gonna be the #3 RB for at least a couple of years, assuming I’m right and Shonn Greene’s leg doesn’t snap off. ::looks at Crackback lol:: If we could nab a 3rd rounder in a trade and Tate was sitting there for us, we’d be crazy not to take him.

by Exystence on Mar 15, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Btw rec'd

and also of course this is all assuming Leon leaves.

by Exystence on Mar 15, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appreciate it, Ben is a good player who has the potential to be great in my mind, if he has the work ethic, which he seems to, and has the right coaching, I think he would be successful anywhere he lands. Would have to be in the 4th round for me though.

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 15, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? Gerhart would start even if Shonn was healthy. ; )

by Crackback on Mar 15, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just letting you know that the next guy up either later tonight or tomorrow, is Eric Decker, and your about to see another man crush lol

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 15, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Found some video on this guy on youtube which linked me to more Shipley video which totally renewed my big-time man crush on Shipley.

by Crackback on Mar 15, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very similar players really, if we don’t get Shipley will be hoping we land Decker, kid is tough as nails.

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 15, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The video i saw wasnt very good. I couldnt see enough to make any kind of read. It was all hi-lite reel, deep down field catches. Couldnt see him run routes or anything. His size jumped out at me. He seems like a big dude. But he has no where near the short area quickness and speed that Shipley does. Decker seemed on the slow side actually, but again, it was hard to tell bc the video didnt really let you get a good look. But when you watch Shipley it just kinda jumps off the screen; the sharpness of his routes, the sudden change of direction, the quick acceleration… Crushin on Shipley big time. Lol.

by Crackback on Mar 15, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

His hands are just as good as Shipley’s to be honest, his route running is top notch, only difference is that Shipley has better short area quickness, and Decker can split up in the slot and out wide, where as Shipley will likely be just a slot guy at the next level which is no knock. To be honest from what I have seen so far, there is not a lot to separate the two of them outside of the serious foot injury Decker is coming off. If he wasn’t he is likely a sure 2nd round pick.

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 15, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read about that with his foot, was trying to find out his 40 time but I guess he couldn’t run at the combine. Torn ligaments or something right? Lookin forward to your write-up as always.

by Crackback on Mar 15, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yer it was a fracture and dislocation between the forefoot and mid-foot joints. Quite serious, but a injury that takes a long time to rehab, but really shouldn’t effect his game at all. His 40 time is around the same as Shipley’s I think, around 4.55 or something like that.

Looking forward to doing this one, could be a good conversation on it, found some excellent stats as well.

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by David_Wyatt on Mar 15, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he seems like TJ comin out of school. same size, running style, work ethic. if we were to draft him, id say let him sit for a season just like greene, then take the leash off and see what he can do.

by servantofchrist on Mar 15, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

^^^Exactly

Except that he seems to be more explosive imo.

by Exystence on Mar 16, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

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