LT or TJ?
by John B on Mar 14, 2010 9:12 PM EDT
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I know a lot of people have asked that we not talk about this, but it's central to breaking down the Tomlinson signing and asserting whether it was a good move. LaDainian Tomlinson is going to make $5.2 million over the next two years. Thomas Jones would have made $2.8 million on top of a $3 million roster bonus had the Jets kept him.
In other words, the Jets could have given Thomas Jones $5.8 million over one year or Tomlinson $5.2 million over two. For a little over half a million total, the Jets took Tomlinson even though Jones is way more productive at this point of their respective careers, and you'll have a tough time convincing me it is only due to their offensive lines.
It's not that simple, though. Jones signed with the Chiefs for two years and $5 million. To top that, the Jets would not have had to even match the money they gave LT.
It doesn't make a ton of sense.
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Dare I say that I think LT fits this offense better? Shonne Green is a pounder, Leon can slash and catch the ball out of the backfield – If he is here next year! BUT LT can do a little bit of all of that he can catch the ball better the TJ could. Perhaps the Jets thought they would get LT much cheaper which is why they didn’t resign TJ. You never know and it is unfair for us as fans to compare the two so quickly.
TJ, and it's not even close
I know a lot of people are optimistic about this because of Tomlinson’s stellar career, but let’s look at this for what it is. Both backs are up there in age for the RB position, that’s a given. But one of them just came off his best season ever, and we dumped him for a guy coming off his worst season ever. Not that Jones was steamrolling defenses ala Shonn Greene because he wasn’t, but LaDanian’s whole game is quickness and agility, and once that’s gone it’s gone. I love Tanny but don’t like this move. At all.
EASY!
Sorry you feel this way but I recall a lot of TJ’s garbage time yards this year. I think we are all giving Thomas Jones too much credit here. We had a rookie RB also kill it towards the end of the year. The offensive line deserves a great deal of credit. I think the world of TJ but I really don’t think there is going to be a huge drop off
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personally. I love Jones, but I didn’t see anything special out of him last year, other then following a really good line and being durable.
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I consider his durability questionable (not referring to TJ), but I don’t expect LT to do more than following our line either. This leaves the door for him to impress me though. Low expectations, high hopes. That’s what I have with him.
Let me rephrase...
I’m cautiously optimistic about his possible contribution.
They're the same player for the same money
Personally, I see this as a wash for a couple of reasons. They are both the same age, they are getting equal money, and they would both be backing up Greene. LT gives them more versatility in the pass game, as does Leon. The difference is that I’m not expecting them to give LT 20 carries a game like they did to TJ. TJ averaged 3 ypc his last 6 games, I think he wore down a bit. I don’t think this move makes them better, nor does it make them any worse. With their o-line they will be just fine.
But how is it the same money?
If TJ stayed, he’d be getting 5.8 Mill this season alone. LDT is going to get 5.7 if he gets the incentives for TWO years. It don’t mean squat what TJ signed in KC for. The only way he would have come back is if the Jets paid him his roster bonus. Once they ripped that away from him, they could have matched KC’s offer a hundred times and TJ would have turned it down 99.
Go Jets
Go Devils
This is a GREAT move for the Jets.
LT is a perfect compliment to Shonn Greene and Leon Washington. He’s a better receiver and route runner than either of those guys, and he has a nose for the goal line, and unlike Greene, LT doesn’t fumble. The Jets are going to pound Shonn Greene up the middle, and use Leon Washington for outside burst. Those are the two things that LT can’t quite do as well anymore – but he can sure run a route and catch, and he can find a seam, and he can get the tough yard. Plus, he will be a great mentor for Greene. I am in San Diego, and I can tell you for a fact, the Chargers run-blocking stunk this season. Darren Sproles, who’s the smallest and fastest back in the league (even more than Leon Washington) couldn’t get a hole to run through either behind those bums. I believe that LT is still as good a back as Thomas Jones, and in particular, he will be a better fit for the Jets than Jones would have been. LT will be all about getting a ring on his finger with the Jets, while Jones would have been griping at having lost the starting job to Greene. And LT is the classiest act in the NFL – you guys in NY are damn lucky to be getting him.
by DougGreen on Mar 14, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 15, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Nationalist88 is crazy
Anyone who watched the jets consistently last season should agree on two things…
1. TJs ypc were clearly inflated by one big run per game
2. TJ at the end of the season couldn’t practice due to knee problems, and these problems clearly carried on to the field.
They sould also agree that the answer to this question comes down to who will be the more productive player over 10-15 touches per game as Shonn is our number one.
TJ got that one big run per game because he had 25-30+ opportunities to carry the ball per game, and towards the end of the season he wasn’t even getting that big run anymore. averaging 3 ypc during his last 6 games. I would argue that it is likely if you gave TJ 15 touches per game he would average right around 50-60 yards of production, whereas if you give LT 15 touches pergame he would do no worse than 50 yards of production with the potential for much more. Therefore, it is clear to me that LT is that guy you want in as a 10-15 touch back. There is so much more we can do with him for 10-15 plays then we could with TJ. We could throw the ball to him in the flats and let him take it, we could hand it off and let him find the massive holes our O-line creates (TJ often missed these). We can let him run teh seminole/wildcat. LT is clearly the more dynamic player, whereas TJ was never dynamic, and certainly will not be dynamic with persistent knee problems.
Wouldn't you rather one big run per game...
…instead of the 0 you’ll get from LT?
by Richard Hill on Mar 14, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think that big run per game is ever coming
with less carries for TJ. Also, think about how much more defenses will have to prepare for LT than they would for TJ, there are just so many more possibilities. And i think their pure rushing abilities are about equal at this point in their careers, but LT has the other dimensions that TJ did not
What dimensions does LT have that TJ doesn't?
LT peaked 4 years ago. TJ is just peaking.
by Richard Hill on Mar 14, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no way you can possibly argue that TJ is just peaking, yes he had his best year last year,but that came with a ton of touches, and the best offensive line in the league. Also you have to ask at what cost did those numberscome? His knees are completely shot as demonstrated by his lack of production at the end of last year and his lack of participation in practice.
as far as dimensions there are three things that LT certainly does better than TJ.
1. Catch out of the backfield-LT runs better routes and has better hands than TJ ever had
2. Find Holes- TJ was a bruiser, which is probably why his knees are shot, but had a tough time finding holes as demonstrated by the fact that he consistently ran into his own blockers. LT made a career finding and exploiting those holes
3. throw the football-TJ could never run the seminole/wildcat, LT will be able to run it and run it well.
Therefore as a second back I don’t think there is a question that you would rather have LT. I should note that I wouldn’t want either as my starter at this point in their careers, and if that were to happen both of their numbers would be poor.
by Lovemyjets on Mar 14, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
TJ wore down at the end ofthe year, but theres less evidence of him being shot than there is of LD being shot. TJ just had a fantastic season, and LD hasn’t played decent (let alone good) in over 2 yrs.
1. Leon will be catching it on 3rd down, don’t need LD.
2. TJ was NOT a bruiser, but relied on his vision and getting down-hill quickly.
3. Leon and Brad run the “wildcat” just fine. Don’t need LD for that.
Therefore, I find him to be completely unnecessary when there are cheaper and better options available.
This.
Also, even if TJ is on a downwards slope, LT’s been on a downwards slope for 4 years.
by Richard Hill on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Dont forget about Leon injury
Leon is coming back from a very serious, possibly carrier ending (luckily it seems like that’s not the case) injury. We cant forget how valuable his kick returning abilities are and being counted on to split carries with the young greene may be to much to count on. LT brings his experience and rare abilities to add different dimension for a defense to prepare for, especially on 3rd down. Giving Leon the time he needs to get back up to speed by not depending on him as "the number two back" (if that’s even a term) and concentrate on getting quality touches in the return gain makes a lot of sense. While we will miss Jones for his great time in NY, his absence may lead to more quality reps from all three of our backs.
by Don't Guard JETS on Mar 15, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
So LT started to slid...
when the man who is the Jets OC left San Diego for the Jets. I bet Shotty has a good idea of what LT is capable of doing.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 15, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with John B.
I personally think theyre both shot, and would rather draft a back to either start or back-up Greene. If we’re not drafting a back, this makes absolutely no sense. With Greene taking over the bulk of the carries, TJ could’ve been exactly what he was last year. Ive got no reason to believe that LD isn’t shot. Everything points in that direction. Those who think otherwise are basing on their gut instincts or are going on blind faith. LD was all about his burst. He hasnt shown burst in over 2 yrs. You can get a back that can do what he does for a fraction of the price; TJ too. They’re the same player. If TJ is too expensive, then why sign LD? PSL sales is the only thing that makes sense. Which means LD will be starting. Which sucks.
yeah after they let TJ go...i was hoping they would think about drafting Gerhart.
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LT
There is a lot of things they have in common, personally I think LT would’ve had a similar year to TJ if he had the same OL as TJ did. Also, some people forget LT can catch the ball a lot better than TJ. I loved TJ in a JET uniform, but the man can’t catch the ball nearly as well. Not to mention, all of u concerned about Leon, we signed LT for a lot cheaper than Leon’s contract potentially will be. Granted Leon is a gamebreaker, and LT hasn’t been in awhile, but do u think that Mike T is gonna pay Leon what he is looking for? From what I understand Leon was looking for about 7million, about the same as Darren Sproles, sorry but in my opinion, I’d rather take the 2nd rd pick, if the Jets were really trying to keep Leon, we would have at least given him the 1st rd tender. sorry but no RB is worth 7million for 10-15 touches a game, especially when u can find younger, cheaper, and healthier talent in the draft/3rd or 4th round in the draft. Leon’s injury is potentially career-altering considering he makes his money with his cuts, and explosiveness, he could never be the same. I applaud the LT signing, yes we could’ve kept TJ, but TJ isn’t gonna fit the role we were going to give him this year, and LT, at least will have a better chance at filling the role we have in mind. Not to mention, LT is a leader as well.
Hindsite is a ridiculous thing. If we did this. Then would this happen? Who would have been better? Did we make a mistake? If we were goin to pay this guy that much then why didn’t we just keep the other guy? I can’t do it anymore. We pissed TJ off and he’s gone. He gambled for a big payday and ended up in KC. IMO we still have RB’s on our draft rader . Wash is still a possibility. Greene is ready to take a leading role. The dynamics of this running game were going to be vastly different with or without TJ due to the progression of Sanchez’ evolving passing game and Greene showing that he can shift into BEAST MODE when ever he wants. This team is evloving. The running game is fine.
You guys forgot something
A lot of people already have Thomas Jones jerseys. By adding LT, one of the top 25 running backs of all time, there will be some people who think the Jets got a top 5 running back(which is not true), then go out and buy all his stuff. Also, throw in the fact that LT has many sponsors and diehard fans, he will bring in more money for the franchise in two years, than Jones did in three
Now is he the better player? Only time will tell
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i think that lt will be a better player on our team then thomas jones for 3 reasons, his presence of being a hall of fame back he would be able to teach not only greene things but also leon washington whereas thomas jones could only teach greene some things being he was never an open field player and was always a bruising short yardage guy… lt was both and he can teach greene how to be more of a short yardage guy but also show him some elusiveness…. and i think that our o-line is just that good that LT should have a better year… his yards after contact proves that… of all the starting running backs in the league thomas jones only gained 50% of his yards after the initial contact (worst in the nfl among starters) which goes to show you how good our offensive line really is…. and lastly thomas jones was never really a threat out of the back field whereas LT could always catch out of the back field and could do a lot of damage to opposing teams and thats why i think LT will be a better fit for us
LD is not a coach, he’s not going to teach anybody how to do anything. These guys are what they are, he’s not going to change them. Thats crazy talk.
LD’s yards aftr contact are terrible. He NEVER breaks tackles.
Don’t need LD to catch the ball out of the backfield when you have Leon to do that.
+ 1, Crackback
People keep saying LT’s a “better fit”. But we like to pound the ball, and now only have one back to run between the tackles. If Greene gets nicked up like he did vs the Colts, we’re down to 2 third-down backs, one of whom has clearly lost a step. And if you’re trying to get a guy the ball in space, don’t you like your chances a lot better with Leon?
by nationalist88 on Mar 15, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No, its the offensive philosophy as per the head coach.
We drafted Greene in order to implement the philosophy.
Actually to replace TJ, and also we needed depth at the position, if they honestly only wanted Greene they would have...
gone after him even earlier. We lucked out getting him there when we did he should have gone in the 2nd round. BS calls the plays not Rex, who knows LDT better, or what the offense needs better.
Agreed.
LT is a selfish player who cares about himself and only himself. He’ll be fighting SG for the playing time instead of grooming him.
by Richard Hill on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
LT is a selfish player who cares about himself and only himself. He’ll be fighting SG for the playing time instead of grooming him.
Baseless speculation against overwhelming evidence is awesome.
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Oh, your a Pats fan,
figures. I thought most of what you saying was overly negative and stupid, coupled with you seem new here, should have assumed Pats or Fins.
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Does anyone remember how TJ reacted when he had to share time with Benson in Chicago...
LDT at least knows his role, coming in. He’s also not looking for more money.
listen before you jump down my throat
all i said was i believe he will be a better fit in our offense… he was a better short yardage runner than jones… and jones was far and away the worst running back in the league when it came to yards after contact…. rating last in the NFL among starting running backs, that is a tribute to our offensive line for not allowing him to be touched but when he did he was the worst in the league whereas Tomlinson was in the middle of the pack when he was initially hit…. and that was behind a terrible line… he was playing for the chargers so you cant really blame him… his line was built for pass protection not run protection (look at the colts also… no running game and we all saw what addai as well as james could do when he had a good line) so my point is Tomlinson will be better than you think and will be a good back up for us and will be better for us than thomas jones because lets think about it… we are looking for a guy who can get some yards after the initial contact to get a little extra yards and tomlinson could do that better than jones
Then draft a rookie (Gerhart). LD doesnt break tackles. Hasnt for years. He can catch, but then why do we have Leon if not for passing downs. You can say he’s better than Jones, but thats purely speculation. Im no fan of Jones but he at least proved last year that when he’s behind a good line he can get it done. We haven’t seen anything out of LD since 07.
true
all i was saying is LT would be a better fit for our team than jones… however i am optimistic about the season upcoming and see him as a real threat out of the backfield and think teams will have to game plan more for LT then they had to with jones… and i think you saw what he could do with a good line… as i believe 90% of the running backs could run behind our line and go over 1,000 yards.. and inspite of this signing i hope we get gerheart anyway as i am a firm believer in him i think hes going to be an absolute monster… i just think LT could show leon some tricks on route running and catching the ball out of the back field… i mean he is a hall of famer and wants to be on a contender… he will help us out more then people may want to believe… and all i was saying is LT did a better job of breaking tackles last year than TJ… the stats dont lie there
LD was great awhile ago bc he was a gifted athlete. He could explode through holes and reach the 2nd level of a defense before they could even react. He can’t do that anymore. He wasnt technically sound, savvy, tricks-of-the-trade guy. He was gifted. Unless he can pass on that gift, he’s not teaching anybody anything.
Agree with you on Gerhart though. He will be an absolute monster on our team. Hope we grab him and deal Leon. As much as like Leon, he’s replaceable.
LT or TJ or PSL
The little difference in money shows the Jets wanted to replace one player on down side with a name player on the downside = ala Brett = PSLs. I rather they insured LJ’s return and drafted a good prospect like they did Green last year for the open third slot. This was a Woody move, like Bret was. I just hope it works out. At least I feel good that the Jets are now an attractive team to a future HOFer who wants a SB ring before he’s done. Two years ago, this never would have happened. Viva Rex!
Difficult call but...
I voted that they should not have tried to bring TJ back. Something I thought I’ve heard mentioned somewhere is that TJ might not have been too willing to take a backup role to Greene. LDT is coming in knowing he is in a backup role so there won’t be that drama to deal with. As far as the mentorship I think it’s a great thing to have had Greene mentored by not one but 2 great backs (IMO). He had a chance to learn from TJ now he has a chance to learn from LDT…both of these guys wont be in the league for very many more years but if Greene can learn from them and utilize what he learns maybe he becomes an even better player…which works out for us Jets fans. Somewhere in the mix there are people purely blaming the Jets organization but there were reports the Jets were looking to reaquire him…that bonus was the killer and to be honest if we want a championship then we need to have the money to pay for those other needs we have on the team instead of risking $5.8m for 1 year that may result in questionable productivity. I may be off but it seems we got LDT at a better deal than what TJ was willing to return for.
2 more cents to add
1. LT’s best years in SD were under Schottenheimer, and there’s a Schottenheimer running the offense in NY. Something tells me dad will be getting a call to offer insight as to how best to use LT.
2. Not only do the Jets have a great o-line (John B, I agree that is not the only reason, but you can’t just discredit that fact either), they also have one of the best run-blocking FBs in Tony Richardson. Look at LT’s stats with and withoutLorenzo Neal. Numbers don’t lie. There will be holes for LT to run through in NY just like there were for TJ.
1. LD played his entire career in SD, most of which was coached by Schotty Sr. You r point really doesn’t make a point.
2. “X” will have better numbers while running behind the Jets o-line and TRich. X = any RB in the league. Another point without a point.
Look at the stats
You are right on your first point, but look at the stats. His 2 least productive years (the last 2) are when Neal and Schotty left. You don’t think there is a coincidence there? Maybe it’s not all due to his age. I’m not saying he’s going to be a 1600 yd back, just that he will be as serviceable as TJ would be as a backup to Greene. As for your second point, I wouldn’t call LT “any back in the league” even at this point in his career.
I think the more relevant coincidence is that LD turned 30 yrs of age and his skills have begun to rapidly decline. I also think that a major part of the reason that SD shifted to a passing offense is that they were forced to because of LD’s rapidly diminishing skills.
Why wouldn’t you call LD “any back in the league”? He’s done nothing over the last 2 yrs to warrant any conclusion other than that he’s average at best.
Anyone who thinks that LD will have any success is basing it nothing but pure hope at this point. He hasn’t anything in years to show he’s got any juice in the tank.
Ever noticed how
the media says if we pick up LT it would be a great move and then as soon as we sign him they say why’d they do that that was a bad move. Fuck reporters
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by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Mar 14, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
I think the people who don’t like this move have no faith in the people running this team. The Jets’ FO didn’t want TJ back at 5.8 million dollars. They then had the opportunity to get him back at less than half the price. They STILL said no. Doesn’t that tell you something? Don’t you think they studied hours of film on both TJ and LT before they came to this decision? If we know more than they do, why are they doing what they’re doing and we’re sitting in front of our computers talking about it? I think Tanny knows more football than rxmeister does, and if he thinks LT has more left in the tank than TJ does, then he’s probably right.
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by rxmeister on Mar 14, 2010 11:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Pats fan here...
…and it appears that EVERY off-season, the Jets collect players as opposed to build a team. There is no team- it’s a gloried Redskins team, except you guys actually work the draft well.
by Richard Hill on Mar 15, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Cromartie? LT?
Izzo? Scott? Leonhard? Sheppard? Edwards?
I’ll give you that your trench players seem to work out- Faneca worked out, Woody, Jenkins too. You draft well on the line too.
However, most finesse players you bring in (as in NOT O-Line or D-Line) seem to come in as “Could-be”s and leave as “Should-have-been”s, in my opinion (a la Joey Galloway).
by Richard Hill on Mar 15, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Also...
…when we acquire players, apart from this past off-season where we struck out with Galloway, Lewis and Baker, they usually integrate well into our system, such as Bodden, Moss, Welker, McGowan, Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, etc.
by Richard Hill on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol,
your team is so smart because they found a way to fit an all time great (Moss), the best slot guy in the league (Welker), an extremely solid young corner (Bodden), and a versatile RB that would fit well into any system (Morris). I get it. you are allowed to sign free agents without reprimand, because they fit into your system, but we aren’t allowed to go outside the organization without being a a glorified redskins like team?
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I couldnt even respond to nonesense nrmax88. He names 3 of our guys, all of who fit in seemlessly, then rattles off like 10 of the Pats guys. Silly. And they cut and run on their hired guns all the time. At least we try to keep guys in the fold. Lito is the only guy that i can think of that had a resume who we didnt keep around for a bit.
Welker, Moss, Thomas,
Taylor, Bodden, Morris, whats your point?
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LOL
That has to be the most random, inacurate argument I have ever heard by a pats fan. To suggest that this team is built up of rent-a-players is laughable and not worth a drawn out answer. hahahaha
Of the players you bring up only one wasn't a great pick-up (Sheppard)
Scott and Leonhard, both had great seasons. Izzo was a special teams guy, hardly a big signing. Jury may still be out on Edwards, but he wasn’t acquired during the off-season, and was certainly a help in the playoffs.
I'll miss TJ
However, we all know TJ most times did nothing for three quaters then maybe broke a couple when the defense got tired. the worse thing is LT doing the same thing.
Thomas Jones
I remember a couple years ago when we brought in a big name player and didn’t make the playoffs. The guy he replaced did.
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Heres the thing
Greene was going to be the new starter. everyone knew that. but imagine trying to get TJ to step down seamlessly, a guy that is so repected in the locker room to just accept a demotion.
Tomlinson, however, is new to the team and expects to be in the lesser role anyway. It makes the transition much easier.
LD said he’d take a backseat to AP. Never heard him say he’d take a backseat to Greene. And what makes you think that this supposed HOFer, whose started his entire illustrious career, is just going to be so hunky-dory taking a backseat to an unproven, relatively unknown RB who hasn’t shown the ability to command carries over the course of a season?
LD came here bc he thinks he’s going to get carries. They paid him that big chunk of change to be featured, not be a back-up/mentor.
he'll be featured...
just not as much as in his glory days. I’m pretty sure he knows that…that’s just being reasonable.
ill admit
it does worry me a little bit that once he realizes hes not the guy anymore, it might really bother him. But I thinke he picked NY for a reason, not for money, but because he knows well run the ball more and hell get a larger role. I really dont think it matter who he splits carries with.
2.5 million isnt starter money. its split carries money. I watched his closing press conference when he left San Diego and he specifically mentioined becoming a teacher/mentor to other young players.
by Ryan Alfieri on Mar 15, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope youre right. I just think that if Greene keeps running like he did at the end of last year, and if Leon’s back and doing his thing on 3rd down, I don’t see where LD gets touches.
Unless, he’s made the starter and splits carries with Greene early in the season. In order to try and drive up sales, like you said in your post.
Not sure if you guys have read the story on the Jets website, but LT does say that having the chance to receive balls in space out of the backfield more was one of the things he was looking for.
Tomlinson told the Minneapolis Star-Tribune last week that he’s willing to accept fewer carries and change his role if it means a better shot at the Lombardi Trophy.
"I don’t have a problem with it," Tomlinson said. "I know I can catch the ball really well out of the backfield, can run the routes and that’s something that I’ve always looked for as I got older in my career. Being able to fall back on that. Not having to carry the ball as much. I think that’s what was lost in San Diego because I was the only guy that could really carry the ball 20 times, so my third-down role was reduced. So now I’m looking for that. It’s something I can do and I can fit in well."
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by David_Wyatt on Mar 15, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems to signal Leon’s ouster. Which Im hoping for. Then we can grab a back in the draft that can assume carries if Greene goes down (which he will). Maybe grab a CB later on for depth, preferably one that can help in the return game.
Thats what I'm hoping for too, I just don't think Leons going to be the same player.
hope some one takes him off our hands for a #2 or even a #3. Hell I can even see him in a package for Marshall, or someone else.
no cap! just dont get it..
i think its gonna be hard 2 get a 2nd rd for leon. may have 2 settle for a 3rd.id go for that, in this draft..
TJ will backup charles for 8-12 carries...I would expect the same from LT
as much as jets fans think greene is the future…charles is the future for kc as well….LT will really add a nice dimension catching the football(not that jones is shabby there)…overall its sort of a wash, but in a league where players rarely stay with one team, its unfortunate that they couldnt just keep thomas jones around and make it his “home” since he had bounced around and was a locker room leader…in san diego, LT was a leader til rivers took over, then it became more of a pissing match between the two…notice neither would stand around each other during games…
good luck to both-
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
didnt get a chance to read the whole thread
So sorry if someone else has already pointed this out:
To top that, the Jets would not have had to even match the money they gave LT.
That’s assuming TJ would have signed for that amount with the Jets. He was due a lot more than that with NY. It’s not unreasonable to think that he would be willing to take his new contract from another team, but not the Jets based on principle.
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