David Clowney: Stay or Go?
by John B on Feb 27, 2010 1:40 PM EST
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PrintDavid Clowney has been a star of the last two preseasons. He put up 15 catches for 465 yards and 5 touchdowns in 6 games. He was such a dynamic vertical threat that his play actually had some people believing Brett Ratliff could be a successful quarterback in the NFL. It looked like the Jets may have something in the young waiver wire pickup from Green Bay. Things never really panned out.
Clowney was injured and inactive for most of 2008. He did look good in limited opportunities. 2009 was supposed to be his big chance. There was a fresh start with a new coach. There was a wide open competition of unheralded guys to start along with Jerricho Cotchery. Another monster preseason raised hopes. Clowney was largely invisible. His most notable moment was arguably a suspension for complaining about his lack of playing time on Twitter. He had a couple of good games against Miami and Oakland during the first half of the year but very little else. David looked more and more like a guy who could run really fast on vertical routes but not a ton else. He hasn't looked very refined as a route runner.
David Clowney's one of my favorite people on the team. He keeps a blog to stay close to his fans. He took in his brother and is raising him. I just don't see where he fits on this team. He didn't really show he's capable of starting on the outside or working in the slot. If he's going to be near the back of the depth chart, he really needs to contribute on special teams like Brad Smith and Wallace Wright. He hasn't really done much on that end. The Jets also have a talented guy, Aundrae Allison, coming back capable of playing the burner role in multi receiver sets.
I regrettably vote go.
How do you vote?
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People seem to like David, and sure he might be a nice guy, but does he contribute anything really? I think your right John, when sitting at the bottom of the depth chart you have to be a special teamer and I haven’t really seen that. Allison looked real promising and his route running looks better than Clowney.Just no room, he is Mr August, but we got him from a practise squad for a reason, he is a burner who will show up once or twice a season. I think Allison can do the same job but probably better. I like the Clown, but I don’t think he has a future here with the Jets.
I vote go
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I vote stay.
Stay.
Stay.
Stay.
It might be because I met him when I was in middle school. Even though he does well in the preseason, it’s building up to perform better in the regular season. Allison coming off an injury isn’t a sure spot on the depth chart. Do you release a player who you know will probably win out the battle between the two in the preseason because one of them is surely known for his preseason performance. I don’t know. I’d like the Clown to remain a Jet, I think he can develop and it’s not like he is costing us a lot of money. I don’t see a need to argue about this. Is his contract over? If it is not, why open up a hole and try and go for a wide receiver second, this guy is a vertical threat always needed to be accounted for.
Rex Ryan – “Who can cover the Clown?”
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I vote stay.
I really like him and he has great speed and decent hands. This year they never really gave any receivers except Jerricho and Braylon more than a few snaps a game due to the whole ground and pound offense. Personally i think he can be a deep threat in the nfl if he was put in the #2 receiver spot. Maby we move J-Co to slot, (great hands, crisp route running, not afraid of contact, and good at getting YAC) keep Braylon at #1, and Clowney at 2. With that, the team would have 2 deep threats downfield and proven receiver in the slot.
Clowney had zero catches in the 3 games before the arrival of Edwards. Stuckey beat him out. If Clowney can’t beat out Stuckey, how can he really be a #2 receiver?
Only problem I have is, I don’t think I have ever seen him catch a difficult ball that wasn’t on a post or flag route.
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His arsenal is limited, but do you think Wallace Wright or Henry has more impact in the wide receiver position?
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Wallace Wright has more impact for the team, his ST ability is extremely valuable.
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Yeah, I haven't seen any reason to believe that Clowney isn't garbage.
Even during his preseason success stories the last couple of years I never cared for him. Meh. I can’t get that awful route in the playoffs out of my head.
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And Shonn Greene had 31 yards and a fumble problem before leon washington went down but now he is probably the best back on the roster. All it takes is a starting role and a player can really shine.
Shonn Greene was a rookie and made plays despite his fumble issues early on. Many of us were clamoring to see more touches for Greene during the season. Who clamored to see Clowney?
As of then, no one but right now everyone wants a great slot receiver and i think we move Cotchery to slot because he has alot of attributes you want in a slot receiver. Then take Clowney and use him to stretch the field to open up the run game and the screen pass. This way we don’t need to waste a pick on a receiver and can use them on a man corner and some kind of a pass rusher.
He could barely make it as a #3 receiver, what makes you think he could make it as a #2. That would be a terrible move IMO, Clwoney’s blocking is also well below par, having him trying to seal the edge is like trying to get Gholston to get in the QB’s face, he had the opportunity to be the #2 this year and got beat out by Stuckey, even after he had a good pre-season, mainly because the coaching staff probably saw that while it’s nice to have a burner, to me a legitimate receiving threat, you need to be able to run all kinds of different routes. He was on the GB practise squad for a reason, and there is a reason why he didn’t get much playing time this year, his repertoire is limited to the point that when putting him on the field, teams know that the only thing they have to worry about is him beating them deep.
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The Greene analogy doesn’t work. The reason he did nothing early was he was sitting behind Jones and Washington on the depth chart. He delivered when he got his chance.
Clowney had wide open competitions for the slot and starting receiver spots and didn’t take advantage.
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Another argument.
The Jets do not pass the ball often enough to pick up 100 reception stars and 1000 yard receivers. However, the Jets do need receivers who can take it the distance, the reason to keep the CLOWN!
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Clowney can’t take it the distance, he can run fast in a straight line and beat out 3rd or 4th stringers, even that Oakland TD, the first stringers were right with him, you can find a lot of players in this league who have speed and can run in a straight line. There is no reason to keep Clowney on this team apart from sentimental attachment because he is good at interacting with fans.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02FX_o3yu2k
Sanchez passes in Oakland game, let’s see Clowney.
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:08 to :28
1:48 to 2:12
4:22 to 5:02
For the limited times, the Jets pass in any game, to have an impact like this is what the Jets need to keep.
He’s not due millions of dollars. Keep him!
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Decent production against a horrific team, hardly evidence to suggest he can be a #2…..
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Correction
Solid production and outstanding job filling in for Cotch. Against a defense ranked #7 in the league vs. the pass. Great vid BTW. Keep the Clown? Of freakin’ course.
by nationalist88 on Feb 27, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, against a defense ranked number 7 against the pass
because they get ass fucked against the run, and because they have Nnamdi Asomugha. It doesn’t mean you can’t throw at them at all.
Catch 1. Catches 2 yard pass, runs for about 10 more. Fumbles the ball for no reason.
Catch 2. Wasn’t covered, ran 10 yards into a gaping hole in the zone, caught the ball.
Catch 3. Nice play, but we’ve seen it. David mentioned it. All he can do is run straight. Chris Johnson also never turned around and saw the ball. Again, nice catch, but we knew he had straight line speed.
Catch 4. Again, nice play, but nobody covered him. Sanchez made a quick 4 yard pass and Clowney ran with the ball.
I don’t hate Clowney, but he definitely has done nothing to prove he is starter material, and one game against one of the worst teams in the NFL isn’t going to change many opinions. Also, while I’m sure the Jets will always like to run the ball, the game calling will become more balanced as Sanchez improves.
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Watch the video above and those 4 times.
To start in this game, and have this impact in a run heavy offense is what the Jets want.
We need him to perform more consistently though.
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Sorry to say Max, but any wide receiver in the NFL probably makes those catches, and probably should make those catches as well. He is a nice compliment every now and again, but not worth keeping over a receiver who can do exactly what he does, as well as block in the run game and work on special teams, it makes no sense.
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I know what you mean.
He needs to be more consistent.
Another year at least.
He’s not too expensive.
After all , he can help bring out the best in Aundrae Allison this training camp and preseason.
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We might as well keep him in camp, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him the odd man out when it came to cutting the roster down at the final mark. I can’t wait to see Allison back up and training again. Got a good feeling about that guy.
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Never heard that criticism of him to be honest, the only real criticism I have heard is his work ethic leaves a lot to be desired.
Will have to wait and see.
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It's disappointing
considering the flashes of talent he showed in preseason and training camp but he just hasn’t measured up.
Time to go.
This is really going out on a tangent here, but...
Here’s a crazy thought: instead of wasting time trying to put polish on a turd we drafted #6 overall that is absolutely worthless, how about spending some time developing a guy who has actually shown flashes that he can be an impact player? Does that just make too much sense?
Clowney = maybe
Gholston = never
any questions?
Yes, I have a question.
When did you ever something that made you think he can be an impact player? Pre-season doesn’t count.
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