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Scouting The Draft: Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame

I know most of you knew that this was the guy that I wanted to win, as a Notre Dame fan, I have had the privileged of watching him develop over the last few years, and while I have been campaigning for the selection of Jared Odrick over the last couple of weeks, I wouldn't be disappointed if we decided to go with one of my favourite players to ever play his football at Notre Dame. As such I will try and be as objective as possible with the evaluation, but it might not sound that way at times, however the bottom line is that this is one hell of a player.

He does have a few areas that he will need to improve on in the NFL like all players do, but his positives outweigh his negatives by quite a margin.

Mel Kiper is the only draft 'expert' that I 'really' listen to, will take in what McShay has to say and others, but Kiper's work is the holy grail when it comes to draft analyse in my opinion. I can't say that I was surprised when his mock draft had the Jets selecting Golden Tate (In fact it was refreshing to see us taking a wide receiver not named Williams):

New York JetsRecord: 9-7
Golden Tate*, WR, Notre DameThe Jets must give Mark Sanchez some weapons in the passing game, and while Tate has question marks on his ability to separate, he is more physical than many think and has always been a playmaker. In the mold of Laveranues Coles.

Tate ran for 1,027 yards on 137 carries (7.5 yards/carry) out of the running back position for his John Paul II High School team before committing to the Irish and being turned into a full time wide receiver. Coming in there were a lot of expectations placed on the young mans shoulders, and concerns about the transition from running back to wide receiver. However those concerns were put to bed when he highlighted just how dangerous he could be when he got the ball in his hands, think a kind of DeSean Jackson.

DeSean was faster running a 4.35 dash, expect Golden to be around the 4.40-4.45 mark, however Golden is bigger, but once the ball is in their hands they are very hard to bring down. DeSean is coming off a great season, 1,156 yards, 18.6 average, 9 TD's. If I had to warrant a guess, I would say that those are the kind of numbers that Golden can put up as a receiver, as well as helping in the return game.

Career State

2007- 12 games played, 6 receptions, 131 yards, 21.8 yards per catch, 1 TD

2008- 13 games played, 58 receptions, 1,080 yards, 18.6 yards per catch, 10 TD's

2009- 12 games played, 93 receptions, 1,496 yards, 16.1 yards per catch, 15 TD's **

** Notre Dame Record for most receptions in a season, and most receiving yards in a season.

Career Awards & Highlights

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So what does Golden Tate Do Well?

Golden gives you a lot of options, he can be used in the return game, split out, or in the slot, you can place him in the backfield, and bring him on an end around. His history as a running back has taught him to secure the ball, avoid contact and keep the legs churning for extra yards. He also has excellent open field moves, Charlie Weis did an excellent job in 2009 of getting the ball in his hands and letting him do the rest. The easiest way to stop Golden is to not let him get that ball in his possession, as when he does, you will have a hard time bringing him down without him getting 10 yards. He has excellent football instincts, he reads the game as well as any receiver in the class, if the scripted route is not there, he continues his path back to the Quarterback giving a scrambling Clausen opportunity to make a play. 9/10 any ball thrown his way he will catch, he does drop the odd one of two, but you won't find many receivers who don't drop a ball at all. Some of them are easy and may remind you of Braylon, but his hands are not in question here. The ball sticks like glue and he catches the ball out in front of him, and keeps it away from contact immediately following the catch. Can readjust his body to make plays on under thrown balls or balls thrown too high or behind him. Has the speed to get behind the defence, and is a big play threat on every single down. Has a very strong lower body, and uses this strength to get extra yards, can shake away leg tackles, and uses several moves to make defences miss, especially the high step. Has good leaping ability and will go up and make plays even in double or even triple coverage (see Washington State highlight below).

Big game player, in his Hawaii Bowl appearance in 2008, he had 6 catches for 177 yards and 3 touchdowns, plays with heart, intelligence and vision.

In just three years as a receiver, has shown constant improvement in his game, and has a high ceiling at the next level, his route running has improved immensely since 2007, and he turned himself into an elite player at a new position in three years.

What does Golden Tate need to work on or improve?

This is really not something he can work or improve, but he stands at just 5'11, and some people still hold that against receivers. However his leaping ability makes up for what he lacks in height. Although he has improved his route running, it still needs to get better, making sharper cuts. Needs to player lower to get that initial burst off the line. He has good speed but not elite speed. Although he will give it everything he has, he needs to work on his blocking skills for the next level. He also can't drop some wide open passes, it doesn't happen very often, where as it's 50-50 if Braylon will catch a ball, it's 85-15 for Golden on those long bombs. Has had some problems playing against press coverage, although not enough to worry you too much. In general it seems wide receivers are very risky first round selections

Final Thoughts

Golden is too intelligent, has too much vision and just too good in general not to succeed at the next level. He has great ability with the ball in his hand, and has everything you want from a play-maker. Don't think he will be a #1 at the next level, but he will be a great #2/slot receiver. In terms of whether I think the Jets should select him, I would be delighted with him. Part of that is because he played for my college team, but the other part is because I think he has a great career ahead of him, and he is the kind of player that could advance Sanchez next year. Some may say that Brad Smith does the same, but Smith has not developed into the receiver, it's always harder to cover someone who can do 5 different things. Golden is that man, he has the receiving ability to keep defences off balance. If you could imagine being a defensive coordinator in the NFL, how would you devise a game plan to stop Cotchery/Edwards/Golden/Keller with Washington in the back field? it would be a nightmare, the options on offence would be unbelievable.

Video Highlights

Sheraton Hawaii Bowl, 2008. Golden Tate show starts at 1:25 into the video


Catch against Washington State, Triple Coverage


Golden Tate Highlight package

 

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the boy has skills , but is he big enough to make it in the pro s, i can see him in the slot and maybe some kick returns even the wild cat since he was a runing back in high school, but nothing more inless i missed something

by realsouthace on Feb 2, 2010 7:57 AM EST reply actions  

Well he is bigger than DeSean Jackson, and he is just coming off a 1,000+ yard season with 9 scores, bigger than Wes Welker another 2009 1,000 yard guy, pretty much identical size to Santonio Holmes, another 1,000 yard guy this year. I don’t think his size will hold him at all.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh and Steve Smith is exactly the same as him I think, 5’11 around 195lb’s.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey DW

the reason I don’t like tate is that he is always catching in traffic so that tells me he dosen’t get separation and if he’s not getting at the college level he will definitly won’t get separation at the pro level

by JETSFAN IN SC on Feb 2, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

That is true, I think playing lower off the line, improving that burst will help him, also he does need to improve his route running and that will help him as well. By no means is he 100% NFL ready, but he still found ways to get open, he needs to get separation on a more consistent basis, but you don’t get 1400 yards without getting some. He also played the majority of his snaps split out, I think he will be able to get a bit more separation playing from the slot, when he did this in college this was where he got separation.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Fred B.

I don’t know anything about him in college, but I can say that when you’re mentioned in an award in the same breath as Fred Biletnikoff, you’re more than worthy.

Until you get a shot in the pros, it’s difficult to ascertain whether or not you can make it. But he would seem to be someone that the Jets can train to be useful in their offensive schemes.

by oldskooljet on Feb 2, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

I like Tate, but I think he is a slot guy/return man.

He is very small, doesn’t have breakaway speed and he doesn’t really have any of the skills that the guys like Holmes, Smith, Jackson or Welker have. Wes Welker is a different animal. There really isn’t anybody like him in the league. Best slot guy there is right now, just knows where and when to sit down in the coverage. Steve Smith is getting a bit older, but he and DeSean Jackson are different then Tate in that they have crazy, out of this world speed and explosiveness. Jackson may be the fastest wideout in the league. If we are looking for a slot WR, I would wait and try to grab Jordan Shipley in the second round.

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by nrmax88 on Feb 2, 2010 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

I actually guess you were talking about

Steve Smith from the Giants. Yeah, this is true, and that could be a good comp, but the scary part is it took Steve Smith till his 3rd year until he made an impact, and with a team that wants to win now I’m not looking to pick a pick a guy who could maybe make a good slot guy sometime in the future. With most of the WR’s we have discussed for the Jets, I feel like they are what they are, no big upside with any of them, all solid players but not many with very high ceilings.

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by nrmax88 on Feb 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

If Braylon returns, though, all the Jets would need him to be is a slot guy, and he’d be a huge upgrade there. Slot is a big weakness right now.

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by John B on Feb 2, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather go higher upside in the first round.

I like Tate, but if we want a slot guy/return man why not Jordan Shipley later?

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by nrmax88 on Feb 2, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Shipley is not lasting long in the 2nd, we won’t have a shot at him where we are picking, and we don’t have enough picks to move up.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

There are a lot of middling wide outs in this years draft.

Bryant is the only standout. I feel confident if we want a WR in the second round, we can grab one. Shipley may not be there, but what about Dexter McCluster, Dezmon Briscoe, Brandon LaFell, Marty Gilyard, Arellious Benn, Freddie Barnes, Damian Williams, Jacoby Ford, Demaryus Thomas, Bryan Anderson, etc. A lot of them will be gone, but not all of them. This isn’t strong year for wide receivers, and Tate is ranked as low as 10 or 11 among WR’s in certain mock drafts. It all depends how you feel about him personally, but I think there will be other WR’s available when we pick in the second.

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by nrmax88 on Feb 2, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If Tate is ranked any lower than 3rd on any draft, then those drafts should be chucked in the bin. It’s beyond ludicrous to have him behind any players mentioned there.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Why?

You said yourself, he is probably a slot WR. There are plenty of guys in the draft who are bigger and faster, and those are the guys people love in the combines. Tate is a solid guy. But he isn’t very fast and he isn’t very big. He is a nice slot weapon with good hands. But teams aren’t looking for sure thing number 3 WR’s in the first round, they are looking to hit a home run with the big athletic dude who’s 6’3 and can run.

Look, Tate had some big games, but the fact is, ND played, for the most part, a schedule full of horrific pass defenses. Out of their 12 games, they faced 7 bottom 50 (out of 119 I believe) pass defenses. 5 in the bottom 25 (Uconn, Michigan St, Stanford, Washington St, Nevada). Just one top 50 pass defense (Purdue, 40).

I’m not saying Tate is bad, just that there are other WR’s that some might like better then him…

- Mardy Gilyard, Cincinnati, 87 for 1200 and 11 TD’s, against a tougher schedule, 1-2 inches on Tate.

- Brandon LaFell, LSU, didn’t put up the numbers Tate did (57/793 and 11 TD’s), but he did it in the SEC, and he is 6’3, and he runs a 4.5 40.

-Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas, 6’3, 84 for 1337 and 9 scores last year. Big toolsy guy, slow 40 time.

-Bryan Anderson, Central Michigan, 6’6, 4 year starter at CMU. 290 catches for 3648 yards, and 29 TDs in his career. Runs the 40 between 4.55 and 4.65.

- Dexter McCluster, Ole Miss, 5’8, fast little dude, nothing impressive on paper receiving wise, with 44 catches back to back years for 625 and 520 yards, but he is interesting because he rushed for 1169 yards this year on only 180 carries. This guy can be used as a receiving back, a slot guy, a 3rd down running back, a return man, very interesting player.

-Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green, 6’0. 155 catches for 1770 yards. That wasn’t a typo. 155 for 1770. 19 TD’s. 40 time in the 4.5 area.

-Damian Williams, USC, 6’1. 70 Catches, 1010 yards, 6 TD’s. Pretty impressive considering rookie Matt Barkley was being protected much like Sanchez most of the season.

Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech, 6’3. 46 catches for 1156 yards and 8 TD’s, for a whopping 25.1 ypc. Pretty raw, but he is big fast and productive.

Jordan Shipley, Texas, 6’0. Coming off back to back 100 yard seasons (1060, 1485), and 22 TD’s in the last two years. Prototypical slot WR.

I just don’t think it is crazy to think that there are some GM’s that have at least a couple of these guys, if not more ahead of Golden Tate on their draft board. That is only covering about 10 guys. If we are assuming Tate steps in as a slot WR, there is no reason to spend a first round pick on that. Also, for the most part Tate played with the closest thing to a pro QB out of the rest of this group, so a lot of the others can be expected to improve with better QB play.

For the record, I’m not saying I like those guys better then Tate, some of them I do, I’m just saying that it is usually the big toolsy guys who get picked up in the first round, not the 5’11 sure handed guy without the impressive 40 time.

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by nrmax88 on Feb 3, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Smith was making an impact before that

His rookie year was pretty much a waste until the playoffs when he became very important to catch third down passes when Plax was double covered. He did a lot of that last year too. It wasn’t until Toomer and Plax were gone that he really got a chance to be “the man”.

Take it as you will, though, because every player is different and their result is independent of any other player.

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by Willgfass on Feb 2, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Between the helmet catch and the game winner, everybody forgets a critical catch and run up the side line Smith had on third down during that winning drive against the Pats,

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by John B on Feb 2, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't forget about it,

I just don’t find it rather important in the grand scheme of player progression/evaluation. It was a nice play, and I know Giants fans loved it, but it doesn’t really mean a lot when you are making comparisons to a draft prospect. I like Tate, I just don’t think a slot receiver is what you go for in the first round, especially when there are other slot guys that will probably still be there. Like David said underneath, there are a lot of slot type guys in the league that weren’t even drafted, let alone first round picks. I’d rather go boom or bust with Mays in the first round and be confident we can find a slot receiver somewhere else.

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by nrmax88 on Feb 2, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don’t find it rather important in the grand scheme of player progression/evaluation. It was a nice play, and I know Giants fans loved it, but it doesn’t really mean a lot when you are making comparisons to a draft prospect.

I never said it did. I was just saying it was a huge play that doesn’t get its due.

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by John B on Feb 2, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually the helmet catch was by David Tyree, not Smith

by PowerBar on Feb 11, 2010 4:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, he is a slot guy and a return guy, but isn’t that what we needed, remember that Welker went undrafted went through two teams before he found his footing with New England. Wide receiver is a very tough position to project, but coming out of college, Golden has a lot more going for him than Welker did, or Smith did. The thing is you don’t need to have straight lightning speed to play in the slot, like you said, you need to know how to sit and then you need to move with the ball in your hands. Golden is pretty decent at both. Not saying we should definitely take him or anything, but I wouldn’t be upset if we did because he has a great football base, if I’m looking at a slot guy, I want three things: Routes/Hands and After the catch moves. Golden has two of the three pretty much sorted, if he can continue to improve his routes, he will be very successful in the NFL. Not many players I’m sure about, but have not missed a single one of his games since he got on Campus back in 07 and if he makes improvements at the next level then the skys the limit. My worst fear is the Dolphins taking him, because he would terrorize this Jets D because I see a lot of Welker in him (not saying he is as good obviously), and we have still not managed to figure out how to play him.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with all of that.

I agree, I think he could play the slot well, but I also think that you can find a solid slot receiver later on, either through free agency, or later in the draft. I won’t be upset if we pick him, it’s just there are other guys who I prefer at that spot. All depends who is on the board.

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by nrmax88 on Feb 2, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree to an extent, you can find find these guys later in the draft, but I would rather take a chance on a player like Tate at a position of need if the board dictates it. Obviously it depends who’s on the board at #29, but Tate is in my top 5 of players I want, in fact he is probably sitting #3 right now.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 2, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

who are your top 5?

by random122 on Feb 2, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not use Leon in the slot?

by NYC KID on Feb 3, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey David. . .

How does Tate compare to Reggie Bush? The Saints use Bush as receiver(in the slot and outside),running the ball, and in the return game. So I guess the Jets could use Tate in the same way.

by chrebetsthebet on Feb 2, 2010 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

love the clip where he scores a TD then dives into the band haha

by chrebetsthebet on Feb 3, 2010 4:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha the Michigan State game. Tate really hasn’t lined up in the backfield much, he will take a snap from the wildcat every now and again, and come on the end around, but can’t remember lining up as a HB much at all over the past 3 years. I don’t doubt he could be used similar to Bush though. I wouldn’t get too caught up in his timed speed, like I said anyone can run pretty fast in shorts, let’s see how fast they are in pads with players dangling off them, Tate has game speed.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 3, 2010 4:53 AM EST up reply actions  

tate

If the Eagles can get this guy, get him, he is hard to tackle, great speed, and leaves tacklers laying like bowling pins, when he is carrying the ball. I know the say he is to small. Thats the same thing they said about Djax, not to mention Drew Brees, and the great Joe Montana, they were all to small. I know he is only 5ft11, but he has a 40 inch verticle leap.

by angloamer on Feb 4, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

He could be what Ted Ginn should have been.

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by Patssuck456 on Feb 11, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

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