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DW's New York Jets 7 Round Mock 1.0

Taking a little break from the scouting aspect of the draft, I thought it was about time I got my first Jets seven round mock up. Always liable to change between now and the draft depending on who we retain, who we release, who we sign or trade for.

When we get closer to the draft, I will be putting out a complete mock first round for all 32 teams, but that will likely come in early Arpil.

With some players relying on the combine to move up, and some who may well fall, the rankings towards the 5th/6th/7th rounds might be off come April 22nd. I'm sure everyone has their own unique ideas about what they would like us to do, and there are really no wrong answers, so make sure you put yours down in the comments.

Right now though I'm going to give you mine, so join me after the jump to see what I would like to see the Jets do in the 2010 NFL draft as of today.

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New York Jets trade the 29th pick (1st round) and the 243rd pick (7th round) to the Cleveland Browns for the 38th pick, 107th pick (4th round) and 183 pick (6th Round)- I know using the draft value chart can be useless at points, but when doing something like this, the value is almost equal with those selections and it is the easiest thing to use without getting players involved. I thought Kansas might be a better option to trade with here as they hold two second round choices, but we all love trading with the Cleveland Browns.

With the 38th pick in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select: Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas:

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This really is a no brainer for me, when you can move back to add selections, and add a player with the skills and motivation of Shipley, you should do it. This gives Sanchez another weapon to work with, yes it looks like we have patches on the defence, but maintaining a more balanced offence should also be a priority. He fills the need of a slot receiver perfectly. He has great hands, and with a QB like Sanchez, having a receiver who you can rely on to catch the ball is vital. He has a great work ethic, he can take short passes and take them 20-30 yards, and is as elusive as anyone with the ball in his hands. I still think he is a first round talent, but the general thought is that he is a early-mid second round choice. Not taking any chances we grab him here. I can't imagine how defensive coordinators would game plan for a running attack of Shonn/Jones/Leon and a passing attack of Cotchery/Edwards/Shipley/Keller and Leon. It would balance us out more and give Sanchez that quick read receiver who somehow always finds a way to get open. Said many times, I don't like comparing college kids to NFL pro's but he has Wes Welker type instincts and hands.

With the 61st pick in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select: Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State:

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Right now many people feel like he will be here when we select at our own choice in the 2nd round, will he? I'm not so sure, I think some team will fall in love with his physicality and general upside. He had some character issues, but they were not major ones, and he seems to have sorted that out, you can't hold these things against players for ever. We need another corner to play opposite Revis, that's no secret. Cox did in college what Revis did in the NFL, just not as successfully. He often manned up on the best receiver, and 9/10 he held his own. He did a great job against Georgia's AJ Green and he is one of the most promising young receivers in college football. He is physical at the line, plays a great press game, can play in either Man or Zone. Tackles well in the open field, and can contribute on kick returns. He may need some work, but he would be an upgrade on what we have right now if we don't sign Lito. He is faster more physical, more aggressive and a better cover corner than any other corner on our roster (obviously minus Revis). In my opinion we are getting an absolute steal here

With the Browns 107th pick in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select: Tyson Alualu, DT, California

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Will Alualu drop to the top of the 4th round? I doubt it, I think he is likely a top 3rd round prospect, but stranger things have happened in the draft. At 6-3 and 290, he could move out to defensive end in a 3-4 or still play inside in 4-3's, he is a great leader who works his butt off on every single snap. He won't be the strongest, and he won't be the quickest, but he will always be around the ball, whether that be in the backfield, at the line or down the field. He is a play to the whistle type player. He finished his career at California with 26 tackles for a loss, and 16.0 sacks, 7.5 of them coming in 2009. As he has gotten older he has gotten better, he is a hard worker. In three years as a starter, he averaged around 60 tackles a season. I watched Alualu against Oregon this season, against one of the better running teams and he did a great job of getting penetration and stuffing the run. I'm all for giving Rex some toys to work with, and give him a hard worker, who has talent and is willing to listen and learn, and you never know what you could get. I think we are set at DE for 2009, Ellis/Douglas/Devito all showed talent in 2009, and with Pouha and Jenkins, I'm drifting towards addressing that issue if it is still one in 2011, picking a player like Alualu is a low risk, high reward type deal in the 4th. When it is all said and done however, I doubt he reaches us.

With Philadelphia's 5th round pick in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select: Myron Lewis, CB, Vanderbilt

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A man much wiser than myself once said that you can never have enough cornerbacks, and well I agree with that, especially as the NFL is turning into a passers league. Lewis is another guy who is a physical guy, he gets his hands on receivers up at the line and has good instincts. His hips are not the best and some project him better at the safety position in the NFL, but you can never have too much flexibility. He is a good blitzer who will wrap up the ball carrier, and certainly can deliver a hit when he wants to. Very bright guy who reads the game, and takes his education seriously, willing to listen on the football field and during meetings. Doesn't have the agility to always stick with faster short area receivers, but has decent straight line speed, so any seperation receivers get in the cuts can be 'cut' down later. He is a project, but your not going to get a sure thing in the 5th round, I like his potential, and physicality. Finished his Vanderbilt career with 106 tackles, 18 passes broken up and 11 interceptions.

With the 183rd selection in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select: Corey Peters, DE, Kentucky

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File this under 'another toy project for Rex'. Before his senior season, not many people were talking about Peters, he was a attractive looking undrafted free agent option. After a good senior season he has climbed into draft consideration, and could well go in the 5th if he has a good combine. At 6-3 and 295, he has decent size, he has good hands, needs to work on his moves, but he had 12 tackles for a loss last season and 4 sacks, all while playing in the SEC. NFL draft scout have him projected as a 7th round pick, even after being named a All SEC first team selection and taking home defensive lineman of the year twice in 2009, so very interested in Peters in the 6th round.

With the 204th selection in the NFL draft, the New York Jets select: Deji Karim, RB, Southern Illinois

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I know that running back is by no means a pressing need, but when you get into the 6th round, I always think you are trying for the lightning strike. Karim could possibly be it, he is a smaller back, with plenty of speed. He has been rumoured to run a sub 4.4, and with Leon questionable on his return from a serious leg injury, and Jones winding his career down, I think it would probably be wise to possibly look for a compliment to Greene. Karim has that potential, he is fast, he plays low and he uses his speed to the outside, he is also a receiving threat out the backfield. 1694 yards and 18 TD's as a senior at Southern Illinois last season, his balance is questionable, his vision needs to be worked on, but he has a combination of power and speed, and for a 6th round prospect, I would say it's worth taking a punt on him.

No 7th round selection

I have gone back to try and make sure the draft picks are right, the numbers of the exact pick might be a little off, trying to work these things out on a Friday night often don't go well. Just to recap though. We started with, our 1st, our 2nd, Philly's 5th, our 6th and our 7th. I traded our first and 7th to Cleveland for their 2nd,4th and 6th. Leaving us with Cleveland's 2nd, our 2nd, Cleveland's 4th, Philly's 5th, Cleveland's 6th and our 6th.

I took:

Cleveland's 2nd: Jordan Shipley

Our 2nd: Perrish Cox

Cleveland's 4th: Tyson Alualu

Philly's 5th: Myron Lewis

Cleveland's 6th: Corey Peters

Our 6th: Deji Karim

Again this is liable to change before the draft, that's just Mock 1.0.

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What is with the Notre Dame Man Crushes?

Seriously if our first pick is a WR its a huge waste of a pick. Statistically yes the Jets Defense and Offensive Rushing attack were the strength of the team, and the passing offense struggled. But the funny part is we are a team that emphasizes rushing and defense! Sanchez is developing and he has all the weapons he needs at the moment. He needs experience and a #1 wide receiver who won’t drop passes! Edwards is here to stay for another year, so why spend a top pick on a slot/3rd receiver? It seemed painfully obvious this is a team who will utilize an I-formation with Richardson(hopefully he comes back) Jones/Washington/Greene, Keller, Edwards, and Cotchery OR a double TE set. When we do have a 3rd WR, it was usually Brad Smith who isn’t the greatest but has made some strides. So would you utilize a top pick on a slot receiver who due to the offensive philosophy, potential breakout of Keller, and two WR higher on the depth chart ahead of him will not see much action?

Lets try to be proactive. Lets assume Lito is cut before he is due his bonus… Our top needs are:
-Man Coverage starting corner.
-DL depth. Potential starting end. And all of our 3 current starters are on the decline and over 30 years old. Devito and Pouha are mediocre at best and shouldn’t start.
-Dynamic OLB who can get to the QB and decent at run support.
-OL depth. Arguably our 3rd biggest need. Faneca is not getting any younger and it would be nice to be proactive. Moore is also not getting any younger and if we could actually find an immediate replacement for Woody I’d be so happy. Not to mention how many penalties/blown assignments did Wayne Hunter get/have. If you look at the history of taking OLmen in the last two rounds, our record is absolutely horrible.
-Nickel/Dime corner. Depends how you grade Lowery but when we face Manning, Brady, Rivers we need secondary depth. We have absolutely none. Strickland is never healthy and may not be back. And no one can tell me they want Coleman back.
-Punter. How many will we cut next training camp?
-Slot Receiver. Someone with reliable hands would be great, especially considering the drops Edwards, Mr August, and Smith have had.
-Blocking TE and or FB. Hartstock was mediocre at best. Richardson is a year or two away from retirement.
-Safety. A backup insurance policy for Rhodes would be huge. This is a bigger need if Kerry is shown the door.

Seeing how we can’t sign really anyone of value in the open market, we have to either trade or sign cheap depth players. Now I ask GGN, is a slot receiver really that much of a value pick?

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Great "first" post

Next time, maybe you could leave the personal attacks at home and not be such a jerkoff.

You did have a couple of good points in there…. But saying 30 year old players are in their “decline” is laughable and B/R-esque. Hey, maybe you came from there?

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by Matt Birch on Feb 12, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I apologize if you took it personally. The fact is there is a Notre Dame bias here and that can not be argued. Not trying to attack, but something to keep in mind. When do you think players are in a decline? When our DL is made up of a 32 year old Shaun Ellis (who its hard to argue he hasn’t been on a decline. I don’t see how he made the pro bowl), a 30 year old Jenkins who seemed to be great but not dominate like last year and coming off a major knee surgery, and a 32 year old Douglas who I’m not sure if he is under contract next year (confirmation would be great) I get a little worried. Especially since for the last like 4 games we only had 4 total DL active which included Devito. Calvin Pace lined up on the line on a 3 man front!

All I am saying is why wait to get some projects in here for Rex Ryan? Or a dominator like Odrick if he’s available? I’m not sure what you said after “laughable” but I’m guessing you meant it as an insult. All I can say is I meant no personal attacks, rather wanted to point out the bias (and reason for me signing up to post to point that out) I think its short sighted not to address the DL, especially if Odrick fell.

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

How is there any ND bias in this mock when not a single player I chose to select is from the University of Notre Dame?

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure if you are familiar with any of the players selected, but there are 4 projects for Rex in there out of 6 picks, I really don’t understand what you are saying. if you have seen either Alualu or Peters play then they are the very definition of players for a good defensive guy to take advantage of in the later rounds.

I welcome all opinions, but I just don’t understand your logic. Shaun Ellis had a good year last year, but he has maintained his consistency for the last 5 years, so how is he declining, Pouha is only 30, and 30 is not an age where the red lights start going off for a defensive lineman.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The fact is there is a Notre Dame bias here and that can not be argued.

Ouch, man. I’m a Boston College alum. Hearing this about my site hurts. ;-)

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by John B on Feb 12, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It shouldn’t John, because it’s nonsense…..where is the bias????

Did one of these play for ND in the past and I just don’t know about it? was one spotted wearing a ND top at a strip club or something??? I’m in the dark, I’m waiting to be enlightened.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I really don’t see it anywhere in this article. I mean you took Shipley over Tate.

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by John B on Feb 12, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I’m still waiting because maybe I can learn some ND connection, and always like hearing those to advance my understanding.

If like he says he signed up just to point out the bias, it is obviously a big one, so looking forward to it being revealed, even though I have asked 4-5 times now.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The Golden Tate Scouting Report.

Golden is too intelligent, has too much vision and just too good in general not to succeed at the next level. He has great ability with the ball in his hand, and has everything you want from a play-maker. Don’t think he will be a #1 at the next level, but he will be a great #2/slot receiver. In terms of whether I think the Jets should select him, I would be delighted with him. Part of that is because he played for my college team, but the other part is because I think he has a great career ahead of him, and he is the kind of player that could advance Sanchez next year

The failure rate for a lot of 1st round receivers is actually high relative to other positions. Just seemed you gushed all over him compared to others that you have done. Looking for a strong argument, I really don’t have one. The Tate scouting report was pretty bad though. Anyways before you call me out on a week argument, I’d still like to point out the risk in many wide receivers. I know with Tate you claimed he could advance Sanchez. I’d argue a strong defense will advance him more.

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a pretty mainstream assertion based on what I’ve read from other Draft pundits.

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by John B on Feb 12, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a mainstream assertion because it’s true. No idea what this guy is on, starting to think I took his sister out and didn’t call her or something.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Me saying I don’t think he will be a number one at the next level is gushing. Why did you post about the ND bias in this thread for without explaining, which part do you now agree with, the ability with the ball in his hand? his vision? or the fact he is a play maker. Your reaching here buddy.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You love keying into one thing that I said. And yet I typed it was a weak argument. You still wanted to talk about that over the other point I made. Just like you haven’t touched the team priority needs list. If you don’t think there are any impact players available at the positions needed its fine. But for too long all NY franchises of all sports focus on one impact player who may not bring as much to a team as others can.

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I did touch on it, I said that the offensive line could wait, the defensive line is ok with what we have for now, I selected the shut down corner and filled another need. You can’t just make things up in a thread where I have actually responded to what you are saying I haven’t responded to.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets say Damian Woody gets hurt. (I can dream) Who do you recommend steps in? Our line has been healthy for 2 seasons and we’d really be naive thinking we could make it all next season too. And was it me or did Faneca seem to struggle against the pass rush from time to time? He can still pull now but IF he and Woody are toward the end, I’d like to address it now rather than later and having another season with multiple rookies protecting Sanchez. And our defensive line might be OK, but OK doesn’t win you championships. And Douglas was invisible, Ellis took out our our second best player and was average. And not having Jenkins had an impact on Scotts performance, and perhaps Harris’ too. Harris played great, but he may play better with a stronger line.

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You can dream about Damien Woody getting hurt?? guy that’s ridiculous, and now I don’t even think your a Jets fan, I can’t believe a real Jets fan would make such a stupid comment like that. There is nothing to suggest our line will get hurt, what if Sanchez gets hurt, should we draft a QB in the first round to safe guard against it, after all he has been injured more recently than the offensive line.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Damian Woody is vastly overpaid. He is slow, and slowing down. Ideally we’d cut him without a salary cap with someone to replace him.

As far as Sanchez getting hurt, I think that was a lackluster argument. The QB is one position. Do I fully support signing Pennington and moving on and saying bye to Kellen? Absolutely. Do I support drafting a QB in the later rounds with upside? Sure. If there is one the scouts like. There are 3 DL positions. 5 OL positions. Sanchez is one year into his pro career. Woody and Feneca and probably Douglas are closer to the end.

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

When I receiver lacklustre arguments, I don’t spend my time coming up with genious counter responses. If you don’t mind me saying, and I mean to cause no offence, but your whole argument or more accurate opinion, has been lacklustre.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Meant to add in my opinion to that. Of course everyone is entitled to say what they like, I just don’t agree. I think we have managed to come to an agreement, that when it comes to football and the Jets, at least in the state they are in now, we are not on the same terms which is fine obviously.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If you get a lackluster argument, you shouldnt counter with a weak one. You are taking the time to respond, which I appreciate. Regardless, how long do you think Faneca, Moore, and Woody have as an solid group? Age, abilities, whatever. I think Mangold and Dbrick are awesome and I’d hate to see us turnover the three other positions at roughly the same time. Do you agree with any of that? I dont mean that in a bad tone, but do you see where I’m coming from at all?

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I see what you mean there (finally we are at least getting near the same terms). What I’m simply saying is that they are extremely durable, so upgrading right now is not a priority. Faneca is getting on, but he will turn 34 towards the end of this season. So will be playing this season as a 33 year old, and while that is getting up there, he still has around 2 maybe 3 years left. Woody is 32, and will be turning 33 towards the end of next season, so he still has 2-3 years left, Moore is turning 30, so he has around 4-5 years left and obviously Brick and Mangold. I think this unit as a whole has 2 years left. Then Faneca will be the first to go, so next year in the draft or FA, that will be a priority. Woody would follow, but this is what, 3 years away. I agree we need to start planning, in a draft where we are struggling for picks however. I just think we need to take play makers. I also usually prefer to get the offensive lineman from free agency, something we can’t do this year, but who knows what happens.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea where the Notre Dame thing came into play with this thread. I think the first 2 selections are spot on. You could argue for a O-line/D-line afterwards but the first two selections are great and achievable. Selecting Shipley first will complete our offense for years. Cox is a perfect fit at corner, the only issue is whether he would still be there then.

I guess you could argue that OLB is a pressing need, but we had the number one D without Jenkins for the most part and Rex’s blitzing schemes seemed to apply the pressure just fine. The return of Jenkins with the blitz packages behind him makes our D downright frightening.

by Crackback on Feb 12, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

When you can add a receiver who has the potential to be a 1,000+ yard type guy then yes it’s value in the 2nd round. People hear slot and they think 3rd, that’s not the case, a slot guy can be just as valuable as your number one. Our offence will get us to the play-offs, but it’s not balanced enough, the passing game is too inconsistent to win Championships. The NFL has entered an era of passing attacks, and we are going to have to adapt and spread D’s out if we want to win, when you get the opportunity to add someone who I believe will be an excellent receiver for the next 10 years, then yes you do it.

We can’t fix all our problems in one limited off-season and one bare draft. Our defence will be fine with Jenkins back in the middle and another cover corner which is why I took Cox in the draft. We need to address the offensive line at some point, but these guys are as durable as you get and they still have 1-2 years left as a unit before we have to replace LG, Woody is better than most Jets fans give him credit for, Moore is turning 30 this year, and in offensive lineman terms that is prime. Again that’s not a priority right now.

Adding a player that can balance an offence, which can not only improve the passing game, but also the running game by spreading a defence out, is vital if we want to take that net step. You may well be happy just getting to the post season, but I want to win, and that’s how we should look at it. B.Smith is a gadget man but he will never be a reliable receiver, add Edwards drops and Keller’s inconsistency, your playing with fire if you maintain status quo and don’t upgrade. Adding a reliable receiver is logical.

So to your last question, is a slot receiver that much of a value pick? you bet he is, forget this whole slot thing and the aura that comes with it, is it worth being able to move back which in turn creates more draft choices in a particularly deep draft, and at the same time draft a guy who runs crisp routes, has the most reliable hands in the draft, and finds separation all over the field……. I’d worry about anyone who even has to think of that. Understanding the importance of a move like that is not only understanding the Jets roster and the depth of the draft before a rookie salary cap comes on, it’s understanding that rules have been implemented over the last few years to turn this into a passing league, and it’s going to continue. Add a great option, pick up some draft choices at the same time. Logical, and valuable.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

David, I am not sure how you think he will be a 1000 yard receiver at least in the short term. He may be if he were drafted by a west coast or passing offense but not on the Jets. It seemed like if Sanchez was going deep it was to Edwards. Keller and Cotchery are more than capable at TE and the second wide receiver slots respectively. I don’t think Rex is one who would want to shift from a run oriented offense to a more balanced attack this upcoming season. Sanchez just isn’t ready for that…yet. There are many receivers not taken in the top 2 rounds who are solid slot receivers. There aren’t many who can cover Collie and Garcon available later in the draft.

I’m not saying we have the resources to address every single depth concern, but you’d have a tough time convincing me my priorities that have to be addressed are not right.

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You have a tough time convincing me to pass on a guy like Shipley here, so it’s going to be a case of agree to disagree.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats fair. I just think if Odrick is available at 29 we have to look into selecting him. He may not be there. Also I have a very difficult time Cox falls to us. Its going to take that 4th and more to trade up 10-15 picks to land him.

by jets47 on Feb 12, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone who has read my stuff on here over the past few months know that I’m pretty high on Odrick, it’s my personal opinion that Shipley is a unique player, slot guys are slot guys and you can find them, but a receiver who runs as crisp routes as he does, with as good a hands as he has, and the instincts and football intelligence he possesses, we have been terrorized by slot guys for years, now it’s out turn. Extremely good value at an area of need, and you will have a near impossible time proving otherwise. Spoken to a few scouts who agree completely that Shipley is first round talent and as sure a thing at the next level as you are getting.

Still waiting to hear how this is ND bias BTW, that has interested me……..

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Shipley will be a huge weapon in the slot. You cannot sell short the impact he would make.

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by John B on Feb 12, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Difference Maker

For the past three years the draft for the jets has produced a difference maker. Where is the difference maker in this draft?

by Phrenitis on Feb 12, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Who did we pick in 2008 that was a difference maker?

Shipley and Cox are difference makers, and Alualu has the potential to be one.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Your right, my mistake, Gholston has me blanking the first round. Shipley has just as much potential to have as big, and probably a bigger impact than Keller. Anyone who has seen him play at Texas surely can see that. I asked a scout if I was justified in being so high on Shipley, and he replied absolutely, he is going to be a great pro.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Quality picks b/c of lack of Quantity

Because we don’t have alot of picks we need a difference maker. Ok what I am about to say will be sku’ed because Kyle Wilson and his whole hype machine has gotten to me. I like his quiet confidence, he can play on special teams and make a difference etc etc. I think we need to trade that rd 1 pick if we get a taker from the beginning of the 2nd round. We need the best corner on the board at that point I think that will be Kyle wilson.

by Phrenitis on Feb 12, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no problem with Kyle Wilson, but his hype is taking him into the early 20’s selection. The difference between him and Cox for our system is minimal, but the difference between Shipley and the next best thing, which is probably Gilyard, is a little bigger. No problem with Wilson, but as I was looking to move back, I didn’t even think about him because he is likely gone around 20-24. 77.

I understand what you are saying, but at the same time, I was thinking along those exact lines, when choosing a player in a draft like this, when you don’t have many picks, you need a difference maker, and Shipley is one. He also enables us to pick up more selections, which in this years draft, in my opinion, is vital.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Love Shipley!!

Don’t get me wrong I love shipley, or atleast what I have seen when he is healthy. Health, that is my biggest concern. He has been injured every year he was eligible in college. He is now moving to the big boys league. Where people will hit you when you give up yourself to prove a point. If Kyle wilson is there I would take him unless draft scouting says we can get him at value. I guarantee Kyle wilson’s value will die down after combine. Some CB with height will run a sub 4.40. Hit me back then. Wilson will fall based on that or needs of other teams. Kyle Wilson is the safest pick in the draft. He is durable. Hardly gets injured. Might be because he doesn’t stick his nose in their, but doing that with production is fine by me.

by Phrenitis on Feb 12, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yer Shipley has taken a few knocks, but injuries haven’t really kept him out, he didn’t miss a game in 2009, and he will add a little extra bulk at the next level, he is a tough kid that’s for sure. I’m not as high on Wilson as some are, but definitely see where people are coming from with him, we will have to wait for the combine, but his hype alone carrying him high right now. Very high on Cox as well, excels in press and man coverage, which is helpful to us.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it

But I still think that corners are going to be a premium in this class, most corners and safeties are likely to be gone earlier. Selecting Shipley in the second round would be the steal of the draft but not going to happen, Welker made his value go way up in many minds specially KC. I heard that even the Eagles and St louis are high on him.
Cox in my mind is the better corner when it comes to what the Jets do so he is the best choice. Alouha and Peters are little Suggs clones.
The last choice I think would be better used on a TE or Maybe even reaching for a punter, Lightning is good but insurance for injuries is better, also dont forget about Woodhead. We have pieces that work towards surprise we need the pieces that hold it all together, and we definetly need a blocking TE.

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by mousie on Feb 12, 2010 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

TE was actually my first thought, but I couldn’t think of anyone to draft there that is also not likely to be a UDFA at the end of it. Think we can pick up a punter and a TE after the draft. Karim pick was just a personal choice of mine based on my preference to always take a skill player at the end of a draft. Agreed about the corners, but just got a feeling that Cox may be there in the 2nd. 100% agree about Shipley being a steal, we would obviously have to work out who is interested and then trade back accordingly.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 12, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Man this fantasy stuff is tough isnt it? There really isnt any TE’s worth taking that late. Cudos on your social skills as well. People can get a little childish on blogs, you have handled yourself well against it, wish I could.

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by mousie on Feb 12, 2010 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

It is really tough, and it takes some time to sort through 6th/7th round prospects, trying to find people who would be valuable picks who won’t drop to UDFA. At the end of the day, everyone is going to have contrasting opinions, it’s just how you choose to portray your opinion.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 7:22 AM EST up reply actions  

This looks pretty good.

I really like the idea of trading out of the first round to get more picks. Cleveland seems to like to trade with us, so it seems like a fairly real possibility. I’m not as caught up with all of the drafts as i’d like to be, but from what I have seen of Shipley, I think he could definitely be a very good slot receiver. I saw him on the College Skills challenge, and while it’s not any kind of translation to being a good pro, he looked like he had great hands, better than the other guys out there. I also like the idea of drafting a scat back late, which Karim could definitely be. I think we’d all like Leon to come back at full health without any problems, but you really never know. The only real thought I have would be to wonder if Cox will still be available in the late second round. Do you think we could package our late second and maybe Lito or Gholston to trade up to a mid second?

Really liked reading this post though. I haven’t really studied this year’s draft much yet, but I’m really excited to see what the Jets end up doing.

by Bodenhamer on Feb 13, 2010 2:42 AM EST reply actions  

Appreciate that Bodenhamer. I didn’t think he would be there, and I guess it depends how fast other corners fly off the board, players like Robinson/Wilson. Most people seem to have him pegged as a 2-3 round prospect, so there is a possibility that he does fall. Gholston has so much money invested in him and Lito might not be here by draft day because of his $10 mill option, which I think is due in March….not sure on that, can someone confirm? It really is difficult to project who we can move to move up in the 2nd. Will definitely be an interesting draft for us.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 7:26 AM EST up reply actions  

PS that college skills performance was crazy, obviously you have to take it with a pinch of salt, but it really showed off his hands, his cuts and his speed. Obviously it doesn’t completely relate to a game, but it was impressive none the less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mQxRwY_uqI

Here it is for anyone who has not seen it

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Those are definetly the positions i’d fill, i dont follow NCAA as close, but in David i trust.
Ya nice job DW.

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by jcgamble on Feb 13, 2010 7:40 AM EST reply actions  

Appreciate that JC, glad to hear it

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey DW

If Odrick is there at the top of round 2 and the Jets make the trade with the Browns like you have, do you think they will take him over Shipley? With Rex having a strong say in personnel decisions I tend to think they will go D in the earlier rounds.

Maybe they address their WR need via FA? They could sign Kevin Walter to be the slot guy.

by chrebetsthebet on Feb 13, 2010 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

It’s possible that they could select Odrick, it would make sense and I like the guy, although I can’t see him dropping out of the first round, so I doubt we would be able to trade back and get more selections, which is something I think Tannenbaum will try and do. Yes he doesn’t have a reputation for moving back, but we don’t find ourselves in a position where we can trade back and still get the same value, this is a very deep draft, especially in the 2nd round, seems like the Patriots planned for it as they have 3 second round selections this year.

We could well go D, it wouldn’t surprise me, just think that we can pick up some projects for Rex to work with a little later, he has a reputation for taking some lower players and moulding them to play in his system. It’s partly why I went defence with the three mid round selections, with Alualu/Peters and Lewis. I just think that despite what some will say, a player who is a perfect fit for a team need, doesn’t always come around. Shipley is as sure a thing as you are likely to get, and he can fit straight into this system. Having such a deep draft, allows us take someone like Shipley with our first selection and still pick up talent further down the draft. Just my opinion of course.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey man, if that Peters kid has "God" hands

Then I’d be taking him ASAP. Just saying. You don’t let God drop past the second round.

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by psuwxman on Feb 13, 2010 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

error, meant good…obviously.

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

lol i know

just having some fun with the mis-type

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by psuwxman on Feb 13, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Eyes were getting a bit sore towards the bottom of this lol

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

7th Round

I believe that we traded our 7th round pick for O’connell.

by firstdown77 on Feb 13, 2010 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

That’s why I put ’No 7th round selection; at the bottom

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by David_Wyatt on Feb 13, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Should of really put a poll up to grade the draft, to keep track up until the draft. Feedback has been very mixed, from a brilliant draft, to a terrible one. Mostly positive though, which isn’t bad for the first mock, usually it’s pretty far off where it ends.

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