Vernon Gholston: Stay or Go?
Through the years, certain names have become synonymous with the phrase Draft bust. They are names like Ryan Leaf, Mike Mamula, Lawrence Phillips, and Brian Bosworth. Vernon Gholston is on the fast track to joining them. Gholston has been a disappointment in every way in his two seasons with the Jets.
Gang Green thought it was adding a potential elite pass rusher in the 2008 Draft when selecting Gholston. That has not been the case to put it kindly. It would be one thing if Gholston simply could not crack the starting lineup. The problem is he has made virtually no impact. He has 30 career tackles. He still does not have a sack. This is from a guy who was supposed to be a disruptive pass rusher.
It would be one thing to excuse Gholston's rookie struggles. He was adjusting to a new position. The problem is any progress in the second year was extremely small. There are now two coaches under whom Gholston has done nothing of note. One of them is one of the most innovative defensive minds in the game, a guy who figures out how to put players in positions tailored to their strengths. Look at how guys like Mike Devito and Sione Pouha improved under Rex Ryan. What can you say about Gholston? That he did an ok job maintaining his gaps starting for Calvin Pace for four games?
Two years is usually too soon to give up on a guy. I think it may be warrented in this case. There are cases of talented guys who get off to slow starts and eventually develop. These guys at least show flashes that they could be great. Take Reggie Bush for example. He's been a disappointment as a pro. There are still games like the one he had against Arizona in the Playoffs that show he could become an elite running back in football if he just learned fundamentals like reading his blocks, absorbing contact, and not trying to swing everything outside. Mark Sanchez wasn't that great during his rookie year, but he had games where he made some incredible throws. Once he puts it all together, he could be special. I don't think Kyle Boller will ever get it, but I've seen him play some great games. I could at least understand a team rolling the dice by signing him.
When have we ever seen anything out of Gholston to suggest he can be an impact player in this league? Thus far he's shown he MIGHT turn into a decent backup one day.
An uncapped year would give the Jets a unique chance to rid themselves of his hefty top ten pick contract. They could save somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 million in future salary including reachable incentives.
You may say give him another year. If the Jets do that, and there is a cap, cutting him will cost $7 million. I think we can all agree he will not justify his contract. There is no justification for bringing him back at the current price. Cut him, save the money, and resign him for the minimum. Other teams have film. They aren't going to go much higher. If there was a cap, this wouldn't be an option. His contract would cost too much against the cap. This is an opportunity.
Some have questioned Vernon's dedication to the game and his heart. This may not be entirely fair. We can't say for sure. Something is definitely missing somewhere, though. He has as many physical gifts as anybody. We just haven't seen anything to suggest he belongs in the league. I question whether he ever will.
I vote to let Gholston go.
How do you vote?
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why dont we threaten to cut him if he doesnt restructure his deal so that we have an opt out after this season? we keep him on the same salary this year and if he performs we keep him on the same contract going forward. if he continues to play like a bust we opt out of his contract without penalty. he has no leverage to reject this.
I know I shouldn’t after everything we have seen, or more accurate as little as we have seen, I just can’t completely give up on this guy. I don’t know why, everything shouts ‘bust’ but for some reason, I just want to give him one more year. I voted bring him back on the same, because I doubt we can restructure his deal after cutting him. If he agreed to that then obviously that is the way to go.
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Haha yer :-D it’s nice to have something to call your own
I really don’t like Ohio State, but I used to really enjoy watching play the game in college, might be clouding my view right now, just want to give him one last shot. Lets see if this MMA training works.
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This is not MMA my man, or weight training, or MVP of the combine, or looking good in a tight shirt. This is football. We are building a dominant defense that plays physical and tries to destroy your quarterback. Vernon Gholston, who not only can’t hit, but tries to be polite about getting off a block, does not belong on this defense. 2 years, plus 2 many millions, multiplied by 0 sacks and 0 impact plays, divided by 0 realistic potential = time 2 go
by nationalist88 on Feb 10, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
What happens to the equation if you
divide by the speculative drivel that is the entirety of your post?
Because the way that I see it is Rex Ryan + Jay Glazer(Randy Couture) x Jared Allen plus Patrick Willis, to the power of look at what Rex did for Terrell Suggs= I trust Rex Ryan and Jay Glazer more then some wanna be funny guy called the nationalist…. my man.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
By the way, this is coming from somebody who never wanted Gholston to begin with.
What is there to gain by cutting him? Woody Johnson’s money? If he goes to work this off season and still can’t get it done next year then you cut him then.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
You have a better chance of seeing Blair Thomas come out of retirement and lead the league in rushing.
by nationalist88 on Feb 10, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I'm pretty sure you don't.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Too expensive to keep
you have to either get him to restructure or just take the leap and risk him playing somewhere else. Otherwise these guys might as well be paying me millions of dollars to do nothing. At least I actually have passion for football.
But everyone’s dragging their feet on a bust. That’s signed away money we could be using towards a free agent that will actually do something for our team. But everyone hesitates because of the Vilma example.
I say a million go’s. Get rid of him. Don’t even offer him any incentive laden restructured deal just get rid of him already.
Spoken my piece already on this
How much longer is the team supposed to wait for his football mindset switch to go from “OFF” to “ON” while paying through the nose (not the nose tackle) for him? I suspect the guy is more suited to being a strength and conditioning coach than an NFL player. Draft somebody that you consider a ready player instead of sort of vaguely hoping that Gholston will suddenly ratchet up his game a notch. (actually, it would have to be a ton of notches to make him be anything but a bust)
I remember there was something about cutting him next year...
if Ghoston doesn’t play more than 45% of snaps next year the Jets can cut him with very little salary cap hit. If that’s true then there’s no risk in keeping him for another year.
Couldn't agree more
This is really a no-brainer IMO. You gotta get rid of this guy, and what an opportunity to minimize the damage. Forget wasting a roster spot hoping that somehow the light will go on for Vernon. If Rex freakin’ Ryan can’t get anything out of this guy, noone will. Move on!
Ryan and some of his teammates
still appear to be in his corner. I say give him another year to show that he can be a force. I don’t expect him to change into a superstar but -- if he can demonstrate that at least some of his potential translates into performance on the field, it will have been worth keeping him.
The man sucks
I’m just glad the Dolphins passed on him.
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