Donte Stallworth: Pursue or No?
The Jets could use an upgrade in the slot. Donte Stallworth is sure to be a cheap option. Stallworth is essentially a wealthy man's David Clowney. He's a vertical threat and doesn't add much else. As recently as 2007, he registered 46 catches, 697 yards, and 3 touchdowns in New England's historic offense. He has a career average of just under 15 yards per catch. Stallworth will probably never live up to his top fifteen pick in 2002 billing, but he has added a dimension to passing attacks.
His two year stint with the Browns was very disappointing. Battling injuries in 2008, Donte caught only 17 balls for 170 yards. Amazingly enough, that was the better of his two years in Cleveland. Stallworth was suspended the entire 2009 season by the league because of an arrest and conviction for DUI Manslaughter. He got behind the wheel of a car drunk and hit a man, Mario Reyes, killing him. Stallworth's BAC was .12%. He plead out and was sentenced to 30 days in jail.
There's a lot we can take from that incident that is not football related regarding the media and the work of our criminal justice system, particularly compared with the treatment guys like Michael Vick and Plaxico Burress. Neither of those guys did anything to result in harm to another human being. Stallworth's reckless and criminal actions resulted in the death of a man. He got off far easier than the other two.I just say this is a case where it is difficult to separate my personal feelings from my football feelings on this one. I don't want Stallworth. I don't think there's anything more reprehensible than putting the lives of others in danger by driving drunk. It shows you don't care at all about shattering the lives of others. I am also troubled by Stallworth only serving a month in jail. You can't tell me that if a man with Mario Reyes' fame and financial means killed a man with Stallworth's by driving drunk that he would have gotten a month.
I do not want to have to root for Donte Stallworth. I understand people make mistakes. There's a difference between an honest mistake and killing a man because you show such disregard for others. At any rate, you have to wonder where he's at. He hasn't played in over a year. It's been two years since he's been productive. There's are major questions whether he can contribute. There are safer options that would bring much less negative PR hits. I don't see Woody Johnson signing off on a Stallworth signing the year he opens his new stadium.
I vote do not pursue.
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Every time someone brings up the “Oh no, Vick hurts dogs, you can’t cheer for him” especially since I live outside Philly I bring up Stallworth getting almost no jail time. I’m usually more then willing to ignore character issues for a talented guy, but this is a bit much even for me. I hope we go no where near him.
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He got off far either than the other two.
Either should be Easier?
"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.
You cannot compare those two at all. He got no jail time because the family agreed to it. Stallworth manned up and admitted his fault. Two completely different situations.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Feb 10, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Get honest with yourself
I too believe he is genuinely remorseful to the extent that a person as comfortable as he is can be, but if Stallworth didn’t have the money to settle with Reyes’ family it never would have smoothed out that way.
“Manning up” or even having the victims family speak for you (which they didn’t, they just got paid off) has never saved a person like you or me from long prison sentences for killing somebody, whether it was an accident or not.
It’s an interesting debate, can you over look someone who has committed an act like Donte has if he can help you perform on the field and potentially reach the main goal. Does he deserve a second chance or did he forego the ‘second chance’ privilege when he chose to get into a car under the influence, and because of the severity of his crime. There are certain issues here, his sentence was a joke, I don’t think anyone is doubting that, however it was the commissioners decision to reinstate him, and if he can help us win and comes cheap then you have to seriously consider the option, due diligence in every asset of the game. I personally voted ‘no’, but that was mostly because I’m not sure how much he could help us, and I’d rather we go another direction for the wide receiver position. Obviously it is nearly impossible to avoid what he did when evaluating him, but at the same time the commissioner reinstated him, so if you don’t agree with him playing, place the blame at his door. To not even consider him because of it though could be quite foolish if you can get a talent like he was meant to be at a bargain basement price. It’s tough to balance your morality and your desire for success if you deem him capable of improving your football club.
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I don't think that we can hold him accountable for his sentence.
Its not really his fault he only got a few months in jail. Nor was it his decision to be reinstated. Ad he does seem genuinly remorseful. That said, I agree with Dave that we at least have to give it a look. Although my gut says to stay away from it, we have to weigh the talent we could get at the price vs similar talent at a possibly higher price. If he can play and he’s cheap, I wouldnt be opposed to pulling the trigger.
We could stack J-Co with BE/DS and J-Co would have a lot of room to work; as well as Keller if we go 4 wide.
I’m definitely not saying get him, just saying we have to to our due diligence in exploring any and every option, which I think you are agreeing with there. Still saying that, my personal preference is to keep BE/J-co and draft a receiver. If Rex and Mike decide to work Donte out and they sign him up because they feel he can help us, I will trust the judgement and support it.
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I am agreeing with you. You can’t just pass up his talent without giving it a look. Draft Shipley, work out Donte and if you can sign him cheaply pull the trigger and cut Clowney. Then if Donte can play, you let him him perform and trade him for picks or an upgrade on D, knowing you have Shipley that can step in and perform.
He’s an upgrade from B.E. for you guys, that’s for sure.
If I hear "There's always next year" one more time...
by SpecialBrownie on Feb 10, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions
Stallworth is not better than Braylon Edwards.
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by David_Wyatt on Feb 10, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Even with Edwards brick hands he has so much more upside than Stallworth. He has amazing separation skills and is a better deep threat. The Browns thought so and so do the Jets from the looks of things. He was more or less bumped to third receiver in the other cities he played in. Oh yeah, and in spite of Edwards troubles, he never killed anybody that we know of. And he’s fresh on the field whereas Donte has been gone for the long haul.
Character issues are all or nothing in the NFL for me. If you’re at a position to be reinstated you should be unencumbered and get a full shot with any team willing to sign you. But I don’t blame a team for stopping to wonder if the investment will pay off or be cut short by bad personal decisions. That’s their right in a capitalist market.
I say do not pursue because we don ‘t need another deep threat and that’s all he’s good for. Go for a clutch hands or slot receiver, or even one that’s basically just a third down receiver. Just someone with reliable catching ability to take the pressure off of Sanchez, Edwards, Cotchery, and Keller.
Too bad he isn’t more versatile because he’s probably pretty cheap right now.
I’d rather take Holt than Stallworth, especially considering that Stallworth hasn’t played the entire 2009 season and was rather disappointing in 2008. Character issues are important and even though Stallworth does seem genuinely remorseful that doesn’t mean we have to reach for him if there are better alternatives around.
Keep Cotchery and Braylon, sign Holt, draft a hot young prospect, and keep Woodhead and Brad Smith as situational guys. We’re set.
the facts
.12 is fairly low BAC, though still illegal. my guess is that it is 3-4 drinks over the course of 1.5-2 hours. if you can tell me that makes YOU call a cab, then you can say stallworth showed reckless disregard for human life.
though the facts of the story can never be completely known, what was substantiated in trial was that reyes was crossing at an unmarked spot, at night, and thus could have surprised anyone driving at that time – after a few drinks or none.
i think this column should take all that into account.
that said, it is not cool to kill anyone, no matter the circumstances, but in a world of fast metal machines, accidents often happen.
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John B, I think you’ve written some worthy columns in the past, but these poll-posts have to stop. Instead of enlightening us on your personal DWI opinion, why not make more of a story out of the Vick/Burress/Stallworth comparison? That would have been ten times the story that this popularity contest solicitation is.
Or, keep polling and I can look for another site for something interesting to read.
This is a blog, not a column...
Its designed to elicit a reponse and permit for reader participation. If you have something to add then add it. Maybe you should grow the stones to put out your own material before you start knocking others. Especially someone who has put out as much quality information regarding the Jets as anyone.
I agree
We have the ability to put or own stuff out there, there should be no jabs at someone who is giving us something to talk about. I have an ideal, lets have an poll about how blogers feel about polls. I vote yes. The best thing about a poll is I get to see how my fellow jet fans think about an issue without reading someone distasteful blog.
I think in an off-season where there are several moves to be made, polls are a great visual representation of how the fan base feels. Some polls we get close to 1,000 posts, sometimes people have nothing more to add than ‘I agree’ in which case we don’t really want 1,000 posts below saying ‘I agree’. During the season polls are rare, off-season because there are so many decisions to be made they are rife. It’s usually welcomed warmly. It’s also a Jets blog, not a league wide blog, so most of the people who read here want to know how something effects the Jets, they don’t necessarily want to read a general article about criminal convictions.
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