Wake Up Call: Just What The Doctor Ordered
by David_Wyatt on Dec 7, 2010 11:37 AM EST
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PrintI would have liked to have been able to write my first post in some time from a different angle, a more positive, the tide has turned type angle, yhe cards have flipped and we now reign supreme type angle. Unfortunately, that's not possible today as we all wake up to the day after the night before.
John went through his post game comments and thoughts, and it's hard to disagree with a thing. However, as much as this was a humiliating beat down, it's always important to take a look at what this can do for us. I've heard a lot of people mention the 1986 Jets' loss to the Dolphins and collapse thereafter. The 45-3 loss to the Miami Dolphins in week 12, which was followed by 4 straight losses to the Rams/49'ers/Steelers and Bengals.
I think it's only natural to look at the worst case scenario after a night like last night, but a part of me thinks that this is the kind of wake up call we have needed. We seem to be doing just enough to win and sooner or later the slow starts were going to catch up with us. You can't play from behind in this league against the elite. We were 9-2 and some of the media were buying us (some were not), but it all seemed well.......a little bit flat.
I know that may be hard to believe after two OT victories, one coming at the death point, but we weren't playing like a Superbowl team even though we had the best record in the league. There is no way to paint this other than the Patriots giving us a butt kicking that a lot of us will remember for a long time.
However, it's now about what we can do to answer. We were coasting but now we have to take a step back and take a hard look at ourselves. As Rex said in the post match conference, we have a zillion things we need to correct, and for the first time in a long time, Rex Ryan/Pettine and his play-calling is one of them. Rex is a great mind, which makes last nights play calling even more mind boggling.
Rushing 3 on 3rd and 22, matching Drew Coleman and Wes Welker up in man coverage inside, blitz packages coming all up the middle. and not being able to adapt to Danny Woodhead out of the backfield. As much as we can blame Sanchez, we can blame Schotty.....Rex has to take a lot of the blame as well.
So here we are at 9-3, a position that a lot of teams would kill for, better than the Ravens, better than the Giants, better than the Eagles and the same as the Bears who people now seem to fear.
There is plenty of things to be negative about, but lets pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and get back to the drawing board. This is a kick up the back side that the team needed, the franchise needed and I would argue the fans needed. A season doesn't hinge on one bad performance just like it doesn't hinge on a great one. The Patriots lost to the Browns, but they got back up and now look at them. The Falcons lost to the Eagles, and have now won 6th straight. We know how to lose, we've been here before, the difference with this team is that I truly believe we can pick ourselves back up.
So stop with the feeling sorry for yourself, stop with the same old Jets (lets pretend like I expect us to lose now to avoid disappointment). In soccer teams will often chant to opposing supporters "You only sing when you're winning"...and that is a big sting to have directed at you. Let's not be that type of fanbase, so go to work as cocky as ever, as loud and as proud as ever. We lost, but that doesn't mean we'll lose again.
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Thank you David W.
If I hear one more SOJ reference, I don’t know what im gonna do.
I think this game was more of just everyone playing and coaching as badly as possible at the same time, against a team playing and coaching as well as possible. Adjustments, as many as are needed, will be made.
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by JetsFanMurphy on Dec 7, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
The S.O.J. crap is so tired. That wasn’t “Same Old Jets.” That was “better team with HOF coach and QB kicked the crap out of upstart second year coach/QB combination.”
And that’s all it was. It sucked…but it’s over.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
We will see if this helps next week.
Hopefully the Jets can come back and really play their first complete game in awhile and defeat Miami.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
not soj but same old problems
raven loss
packers loss
pats loss
we have to play 2 more teams that are playoff bound in the bears and steelers . so far with the exception of week 2 we have shown nothing to suggest we rank among those teams and if we can’t get a win against 1 of the 2 playoff bound teams we have left to play we haven’t got a chance of reaching dallas .
add the fact that we have lots of players to resign next year and still need a top pass rusher and a nt even if jenkins returns healthy the future looks a lot brighter for a young pats team going forward than the jets
we have risked it all on this season and if we do worse than last season in the playoffs it will be a disaster .
we can still win it but we need 100% improvement in the playoffs or our decent season will mean hearing those words we all hate SOJ
If we beat the steelers that “we can’t beat a playoff team” sentiment goes away. If our offense showed up in any of those other games, we would have won 2 of them at least. We’re undefeated in games we score a TD this season.
We are in very good shape going forward as well. There’s going to be at least 5 stud #1 receivers coming out this year and we should grab one in the first round. There’s also a ton of good DLs coming out. And there’s always free agency. We have an outstanding core to build around and we’ll always be competitive for the next 5 years. How deep of a playoff run will be largely determined by how well we draft going forward and how good the ancillary pieces are.
The pats haven’t got our number by any stretch. We’re 2-2 against them since rex has taken over, each team dominating their home games.
Last night was embarrassing, but we’re still 9-3. It doesn’t mean we won’t make a playoff run and it doesn’t mean the pats will. Heck, we can win the next 2 games and the pats lose 2 and we win the division.
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Meh, the Steelers have been beatable (Suprising due to their record)
They did beat an excellent Ravens team but they should have lost to the Phins and the Bills dropped a game because God personally hates Steve Johnson or the Bills or the City of Buffalo. Steve really needs to be more specific in his tweets.
But yeah going forward with a new OC next year I’m not too worried. Pick up a pass rusher and stash Tone and we just need depth and a plan.
we have a second chance
i agree that most of those problems can be fixed going forward . my point is unless we can beat a team with a winning record we will be going into the playoffs where no one will fear us . if we beat the bills and miami and lose to the bears and the steelers we will be 11-5 but probably the worst team in the playoffs. if i had a choice between wins against the bears and steelers or wins against the fins and bills i’d choose the first option because it would give the team more of an even footing in the playoffs.
i don’t think the pats have our number either but when they win ,they win easy and we seem to give up without a fight . thats a worry when they are only going to get better on defence in the future
and if the system was new last year our defence should be playing a lot better than they are in the 2nd year of the system. as i said all these problems can be fixed but as the weeks go bye we have less time to fix them
Who you beat, by how much and how you get there means absolutely nothing. All that matters is getting there and how u play when ur there. The team with the best record doesn’t always win. The team that’s the hottest doesn’t always win.
We have enough talent to compete with anybody. We just need our coaching staff to come up with a competent game plan on both sides of the ball.
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well said DW.
Man, its good to have you back brother. I know ur probably busy, but I hope to read ur stuff more often. And its not an indictment on any of the other writers, I like everybody that writes here, everybody is good. But, imo, ggn is much better with u than it is without u bro.
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I think
We just need to get back into rhythm. It seems like when we have too much rest it breaks our stride and we forget how to play. Was it just me or was the entire gameplan just too damn conservative?
Also,
hopefully sitting on the sidelines watching the Patsies run up the score on us HAS to be gas on the fire. It’s time to go Frank Castle on the rest of the league.
Game plan?
The way the game spun out of control I can’t really say that I knew what the game plan was. And I’d like to buy into the too much rest thing, but the Patriots had the same amount of rest. We were outplayed at virtually all positions, and umohan21 is right. There’s 4 games left….Let’s see what we’re made of.
In the 3 games where we’ve had extra prep time we scored a total of 12 points. And 6 of those were basically scored by the defense by giving us field position in fg range against baltimore.
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That speaks volumes about Schotty's gameplanning ability.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Football prep 101 needed.
Sanchez was brutal last night, but what about the coaching and dropped passes? And can anyone tell me when was the last time Dustin Keller suited up to play football. All of these things conspired to help the over confident and unprepared Jets to shoot themselves in the foot.
This offensive is mildly talented and without the last minute heroics against sub-par teams, the Jets, whose coordinator has been overwhelmed almost every game this season, would be fighting Miami for second place. This team needs a coach with a plan and the capacity to adjust to what’s on the field.
SOJ
Is said by Jets fans who have been fans for a long time and seen a lot of the same things.
It’s said for a reason, it’s been FORTY YEARS, count them, 40.
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None of us are going to give up or stop following our boys, but it's hard to watch the same thing every year. It's tough.
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i know i'm only 21
so i luckily havent been through many of the 40 yrs, but this seems to happen to all my teams metsjetsknicksrangers. this was the biggest bummer i remember this side of glavines 7 run disaster choke
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
by dabu7 on Dec 7, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm only 25, So only 25 years for me.
25 long years, though.
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I'm 34
And to me, the Same Old Jets crap ended when Parcells came in. He exorcised the demons. Since then, we are an above .500 team with a 5-5 playoff record, and a couple of division titles. It’s not “great,” but it’s not “cursed” either. SOJ is just what old farts like Steve Serby, Joe Beningo, etc. like to whine about.
I could not BELIEVE that Tirico brought it up last night.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
amen mr. wyatt
this is the exact opinion i had after the ravens gm where every and their uncle were destroying the jets. i said it was big wake up call. sure enough they responded. however that being said, they did play a heck of a lot better in the ravens gm…..
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
I think the Ravens game was a wakeup call, and agree with you
Last night’s game, though, was not a wakeup call.
It was a production highlighting glaring weaknesses we have on this team. Weaknesses that will keep us from going far in the postseason
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Not if they're addressed...
These weaknesses have been swept under the rug over and over because we’ve been winning. Now they can’t be ignored.
So who's going to play safety?
We know it’s an issue. Who’s going to fill in, though? Esp with Digs hurt.
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slapped
This was just to let all you JET FANS THAT YOUR TEAM IS NOT THAT GOOD AND THIS IS WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE PLAYOFFS. JUST REMEMBER THE ROAD TO THE SUPERBOWL GOES THROUGH NEW ENGLAND AND YOU DON’T HAVE A PRAYER.SO STOP CRYING
It only goes thru NE if u win ur first game. Who knows maybe you’ll get Baltimore again and have to take the same medicine that u did last year. But hey, there’s a lot of football left, nothing is locked up yet. So let’s wait and see how this all plays out before we start acting like something was actually accomplished last night other than one team adding a W into one column and the other team adding an L to the other.
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey crack, the guy is a BILLS FAN.
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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If you can touch it, you can catch it.
lol
I know, I was going to ban him, but he’s a Bills fan, so he’ll suffer eternally.
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Lol. Seriously? Why would a Bills fan talk smack… About anything?
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just honored the request of his user name.
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Heh
It was the least you could do, since he all but baited you like that.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
honestly
would it really shock anybody if the jets managed to beat NE in the playoffs. surprise ppl maybe but shock no. just b/c the jets got absolutely annihilated last night doesnt mean they wouldnt play it at least close the next time around. keep in mind the jets did win the 1st gm bet the 2
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Defense
Agreed that Sanchez had one of his worst games. But TOP was roughly the same. If S had one of his best games, we would have scored 21-27 pts, and lost 45-27. Still a rout. If I counted right, the Pats had the ball 8 times and scored 7 x. A couple of short fields, but a couple of 90+ drives as well. And averaged under 4 mins a drive. The whole defense looked like butter. Can’t blame it all on Eric Smith. Maybe it really was Brady.
We’ve seen the defense look porous over 10-min sequences from time to time, but never an entire game. And never seen such lack of pressure on qb for that length of time. D is Rex’s pride and joy. Interesting to see how he sorts this out.
Hang on
When it mattered the receivers dropped the ball, and minus the red zone pick, he threw his interceptions when the game was well done-and-over
Everyone was bad but Greene and Sanchez were on the top of that crap
by JetsFanMurphy on Dec 7, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Greene had a pretty good game
"we believe in comebacks"
"Play like a Jet"
by Jadden Hopkins on Dec 7, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Could be
About halfway through the 3rd quarter, my buddy turned to me and said, “Thank you, Cleveland.”
If we both take care of business, we’ll see each other again soon enough.
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If you look Sanchez seems to never find any receiver open.
I believe Sanchez just got frustrated and just started chucking it. This team offense is predicable.
If you use the kick in the butt to move yourselves forward, it's not a bad thing at all.
Theres two directions they can go from here. Let’s see which path they chose.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 7, 2010 5:59 PM EST reply actions
can someone check this up
i’m pretty sure that if the jets win on sunday and the chiefs beat the chargers and the jags beat the raiders that we clinch a playoff spot. that would leave indy at 7-6 (assuming they beat the titans which they should) in sole possesion of 7th place (miami sd and oakland would be 6-7). that would put jets 3 up w/ 3 to go. head to head tiebreaker obv wouldnt apply, the jets could finish no worse than tied w/ indy in conf record (jets have 2 losses and following miami would have only pitt and bills left in conf. indy is 4-4 right now). and we’d beat them in like-teams. we’ve both played pats bungles and texans. jets are 1-1 vs pats and beat texans ad bengals for 3-1 record. indy went 1-1 vs texans lost to the pats and beat bengals for 2-2 record. playoffs baby!!! can anyone verify this to make sure i’m not mistaken?
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Dustin Keller
He is one of their best receiving options; he got what five targets last night? Inexcusable. They need to get him more involved in the receiving game!
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