Pathetic
by John B on Dec 6, 2010 11:34 PM EST
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I'm not really sure what else there is to say about this game. The Jets went out and embarrassed themselves on national television tonight. New England now leads the AFC East with just a quarter of the season to play. This team looked like it was coached by Rich Kotite.
One game. The Jets are still 9-3 with a chance to win the division. They're in the driver's seat for a Playoff spot. Let's not go overboard.
Vent below but keep it relatively clean. The official recap will be up later.
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This is all that is needed in the recap.
we sucked on o, on D, and didn’t play good special teams
need safety help, review on the NFL rules and not burn challenges in the first quarter, and also never go on hard knocks again ever, as entertaining as it was.
Ah who am I kidding we just got beat by the best QB in the NFL. Tip my hat to Brady but I still dislike the Patriots
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 6, 2010 11:38 PM EST reply actions
Reminds me of a Bucs coach saying
“We didn’t block real well, but we made up for it by not tackling”
+1
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
I put God first! Anything else comes a distant second, next to a cross-country third.
Being that I'm Nigerian, being a Jets' Fan only comes natural... it's all about that old Green and White.
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference. If you don't understand this, then you're losing big time.
I went on Yahoo! and used their Playoff Simulator
We are practically a shoo-in for the playoffs as long as we don’t lose to the Bills in the finale.
However, we would most likely get the number 3 seed – face the Chiefs at Arrowhead, and IF WE WIN – face the Patriots again.
Look, I hate Nick Folk's inconsistency as much as the next person
But he is probably the LEAST important factor in our losing tonight.
Agreed, unless he missed 15 more field goal attempts then I saw.
We might as well just go for field goals in the red zone on third downs with the way we’ve been playing. Give Folk 2 chances down there.
he wasn't an important factor at all.
Our coaches were tonight.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
I put God first! Anything else comes a distant second, next to a cross-country third.
Being that I'm Nigerian, being a Jets' Fan only comes natural... it's all about that old Green and White.
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference. If you don't understand this, then you're losing big time.
yeah those 3 points were def the difference
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Yeah if only we lost by 39 instead of 44
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 6, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Not just that...
The kickoffs. WITH THE WIND and they were going to like the 10 and 15. No one person gets the blame for this game but his performance was piss poor.
No it wasn't!
Holy crap. No one is going to read this, but Really? You think I blame the kicker when we lose 45-3? I was trying to poke at the last few weeks of All Folk hate all the time. Good lord people
wanna know how i really feel?
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by Viggen Jets Man on Dec 6, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions
Too many days off.
Maybe not having a bye might be good for us. Also, Jim Leonhard needs to miracle himself to health.
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
www.ganggreennation.com
If you can touch it, you can catch it.
Sarchasm d00d
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 6, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
This team has not played like a playoff team, let alone a Super Bowl team
for over a month. Skin of the teeth wins against average to bad teams counts for nothing but a nice place in the standings.
I was pointing out that a guy who wants to attack someone's intelligence
might want to learn how to spell the word “too”.
Yes there are
The Patriots were playing so well that my Grandmother could have gotten yards on the Jets – and she is a cancer survivor!
I think the close games were great for us.
I think you gain much more experience than in blowouts. There’s no BCS here, blowouts don’t count… except in your soul… it hurts.
Explain to me how...
if we won those games, anything about them hurt us? Sanchez has late game swagger now. I’d take those 5 games over the Pats soulless blowouts any day of the week. Sans this one, of course
if we won those games, anything about them hurt us?
How????
By developing bad in game habits which against GOOD teams produce lopsided losses. How did Sanchez’s swagger go today? His head was out of the game by the second series. He couldn’t even complete a 5 yard pass.
I dont' think our run of games
had anything to do with this loss. Maybe I’m alone here, but I think Belichick would have dialed up this beat down either way. tight games build confidence, they don’t lead to what we saw out there.
Yeah, the Jets have been playing great for the last month!
How they have been playing against average teams has nothing to do with how they played a against a very good team. Right.
My point is...
That playing 4 close games that Sanchez won will help more long term than a 20 point blowout would have. The only thing that would have contributed to was higher standings in Michael King’s Power Rankings, which I don’t care about.
I would not have traded the OT games for more secure wins.
Your comment on “Bad habits” was the most cogent point you made. I think it’s a valid point, but I’d value late game experience more, and bad habits did not cause the result we saw tonight. They maybe added 10 points to the deficit
I agree.
I don’t mind the close games in the sense that it helped Sanchez more than anyone. We’re fine.
I would have loved to win this game more than anyone but you have a young QB and a head coach that still lacks experience as a head coach. His biggest asset, his trust and confidence in his men, also hurts him sometimes.
I’m certainly not gonna cry that the sky is falling.
No, playoff teams win by controling games and eliminating variables.
Average teams win by spur of the moment miracles plays when they should have never been in those situations in the first place.
72 Dolphins had
A 4th quarter comeback vs the Vikings who finished 7-7
A tight game against the Bills who were 2-3 going in and finished 4-9-1
Their 2nd game vs the Jets was also back and forth, and the Jets were 7-7
Its only a few games, but they weren’t always dominant. They found ways to win, too.
Who says "control every game", the very good teams
control the most number of variables in the most number of situations in the most number of games. Playing close games against bad teams is the sign of an average to bad team.
There is no easy win in the NFL
Ask the Pats that, especially after their loss to the Browns.
The Jets have a great football team and great coaching, it just didn’t happen for them tonight. They won those other games. Playing close games doesn’t make a team bad by any stretch.
The Jets have a great football team and great coaching, it just didn’t happen for them tonight.
GREAT????
Given extra time they got SERIOUSLY out coached and out played. In fact the looked worse than the last time they played a very good team, the Ravens.
The last time they played a very good team
Was the Packers, actually. And there’s no point even bothering to discuss anything with you because you make nothing but claims, no substance.
Very good is subjective
Week 2 vs the Patriots they looked great, the following week they were even better against 2-0 Miami.
This isn’t the BCS. They don’t award style points. The goal is to get to the Super Bowl, and to get to the Super Bowl you have to win, not win pretty, just win.
The Pats were KILLING the Jets in week 2
And then decided to stop spreading the ball around due to Revis’ injury.
It isn’t the BCS, but teams develop habits.
Tell me, How did you think the Jets played in the biggest game of the year?
What the hell game were you watching, dude?
They Pats made one play just before the half and then got shut out in the 2nd half.
I was watching the same game.
Revis got hurt and Brady stopped spreading the ball around, producing serious turnovers due to Cromartie and Pool.
Jets shut the Patriots out
That is what happened. You are determined to be negative about it. Its like arguing with a sandwich. Its like arguing with a sandwich that has an illness.
You don't measure blowouts
On either side, winning or losing. You just chalk it up, tip your cap, and move on. If a team were to be so reactive like you’re being they would never get anywhere. Next cliche
Hernandez has almost 100 yards in the first half alone
and then the Pats stopped throwing to him and tried to hit Moss instead.
Zero Moss in this game, you’ll notice.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 6, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I wonder why Tom Brady would mysteriously stop throwing the ball to a receiver
It couldn’t be any adjustment made by the defense
Shrug
No Moss = 4 WRs with over 50 yards today. With Moss = 10 targets in the second half, 2 receptions, 2 Ints.
Brady’s better when he’s not trying to jam it to a #1 WR like Brett Favre.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
and it wasn't our OL with addition of Logan Mankins. I see.
of course.
also your corner were just having a bad day too I guess. Welker isn’t as good as people say he is, and branch is an old guy.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
ah so w/o moss the final score wouldve been 45-3 as well
and let me guess w/o welker they’d have scored 70
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
welker is different
he fits the scheme we are trying to run now. Moss doesn’t.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
if moss wasnt on the pats in 07
they wouldve avged 50 a gm. brady forced it in too much
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Moss in 2007 isn't Moss in 2010.
If he was, Moss in 2010 wouldn’t have had three teams already.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Moss of 2010 is not Moss of 07.
And neither is our offensive philosophy. Which is important. he doesn’t fit our offensive philosophy this year, and we see why.
Hell, moss sucks OUTSIDE the pats.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
No.
With Moss it would’ve likely been less. Cromartie can’t cover Branch/Welker, but he can certainly cover Moss.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
That too
Although Brady was still using more dink-and-dunk and creating mismatches than deep passes. He took Troy Polamalu and every other safety out of the game by attacking underneath routes since Moss has been gone. Leonhard would’ve likely not screwed up on the PI penalty, though.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Leonhard would’ve likely not screwed up on the PI penalty, though.
It would simply have been a completion. You know how JL has been on TEs this year.
That's a rookie TE, though
Might’ve dropped it just because he’s a rook. Giving up the penalty takes it out of the rookie’s hands.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Gronk's only dropped that
If he trips over the hobbit pawing at his ankles. But that’s probably PI anyway
Would you give a man a foot massage?
by insertscreenname on Dec 7, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Moss was covered. Everyone could see that.
And Brady STILL threw it up to him. I don’t think that’s too mysterious.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
what
did brady have a mancrush on moss that made him do that. i guess its also reggie waynes fault manning throws so many picks lately
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Kinda, yes
Brady has thrown exactly one interception against great teams (Ravens, Steelers, Jets, Colts) since Moss left, and it was a punt-pass hail-mary at the end of the first half against the Ravens.
You saw today’s game; did Brady look better without Moss?
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
sure
but i’ve seen brady look better than he did in that gm w/ moss on the team as well. he certainly didnt look too shabby last yr in the 2nd gm
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Moss is broken this year
2010 Moss is awful. That’s why he’s been bounced through three teams already, and barely gets on the box score any more.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
how did he look today compared to the WK2?
A lot better.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
he wasn’t trying to force the ball to moss even when it wasn’t there because Moss was covered
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
exactly. moss was covered.
and he still threw it to him. Does that make sense? No it does not.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
i wasnt aware that qbs never threw to covered receivers.
i’ve certainly never seen sanchez due it. never. must be that whenever he does it its b/c that receiver HAS to get the ball. it explains a lot
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Qbs SHOULDN'T throw it to covered WRs.
they throw it to OPEN ones! Sanchez doesn’t have as many INTs as last year because he throws SMARTER.
Brady threw it to moss, incomplete. Threw t again, INT. Threw it again, incomplete. threw it again, INT.
DOES THIS SERIOUSLY MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
Those KILLED US in the first meeting with you guys.
Oh but hes a pro bowl WR.
How does he look now? DOES HE LOOK LIKE A PRO BOWL WR TO YOU NOW????? He doesn’t fit our offense, and wasn’t productive. He was traded, and we have performed better without him.
Those KILLED US in the first meeting with you guys.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
so why the hell was brady throwing to such a washed up piece of garbage constantly
unless he’s got the brain of a pinata. regardless of moss or not he shouldnt throw to a covered receiver. if welker was covered moss open and he constantly threw to welker would you be complaining this endlessly and saying that welker is bad and thats the reason brady threw it. the pats also had better rushing today is that due to moss as well. there defense played better today is that due to moss as well. so why is brady playing better ONLY DUE TO MOSS’ ABSENCE. he just had a much better gm today. it happens
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Because it took 4 weeks to realise he was garbage
Then they traded him to the Vikings. And the Vikings took 4 weeks to realise he was garbage, too.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
that
doesnt answ why you cant simply say maybe he played better today. sanchez played worse today than in wk 2. are we blaming some weird force for that? the way you make it sound its impossible to have a poor gm unless someone other than the qb or good def is involved. btw, why did brady only decide in the 2nd half of that gm to pass like that. did someone hit him in the head w/ a club at halftime or something. acc to you he shouldve been throwing to moss all gm so why was he mysteriously competent in the 1st hlaf alone. one word: adjustments. tonight the pats adjusted from first gm and guess what? sanchez had a bad gm
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Brady was clearly frustrated and trying to jam it to his (ex)-favourite WR
Once they took away Moss from the lineup, he actually played better. He didn’t have a Hall of Fame WR-ego to feed.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
so why the hell was brady throwing to such a washed up piece of garbage constantly
unless he’s got the brain of a pinata.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT’S WHY WE TRADED HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
if welker was covered moss open and he constantly threw to welker would you be complaining this endlessly and saying that welker is bad and thats the reason brady threw it.
I think Welker was open quite a bit in the second half. Ninja would remember better than me. But IF he was covered, and brady kept forcing it to him, and moss was open, then gee, ya, I would be complaining.
Would I say he sucks? Well if he was traded to another team, and gave the same amount of production moss gave with us(more dropped balls then catches, brady keeps throwing it to him, etc.), then yeah, he sucks.
In the same instance, Moss sucks now.
the pats also had better rushing today is that due to moss as well. there defense played better today is that due to moss as well. so why is brady playing better ONLY DUE TO MOSS’ ABSENCE. he just had a much better gm today. it happens
The pats run it more with moss gone, yes.
The defense was younger and more inexperienced before. Has nothing to do with moss.
Why is brady playing? Well gee, he IS NOT FORCING IT TO ANYBODY THAT IS COVERED, and RESULTING IN INCOMPLETIONS AND INTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you stooping THAT low, as to say “I this due to moss, and is THAT due to moss?”
You are being very pathetic now. I’m sorry. You have no argument at all, and you are re-hashing comments that I already made points on.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 7, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well at least this answd my pts i'll give you that
w/ the last pt i was merely pointing out that there are other poss explanations to brady playing better tonight than just moss. it does frustrate me that pats fans wont givean inch of credit for that gm. same as you seemed to be upset w/ me above when you guys thought i was giving no credit to the pats tonight. its a combo of both things. in first gm jets made good adjustments, brady made poor decisions (they were poor decisions even if moss was in fact 07 vintage. if a receiver is covered you dont throw it to him) and sanchez had good 2nd hald and thus jes won
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Brady's been almost perfect in the last month
And it just seems to be the post-Moss offence really gelling well.
In the meantime, the two teams who have had Moss since the Pats are 1-7 with Moss.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
true
favre/young/collins aint exactly tom brady though. look i’m not trying to say the pats doing better now has nothing to do w/ moss i believe it has a heck of a lot to do w/ him just looking for a tad of respect from the 1st gm. of course jets completely reversed the process tonight
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
this makes no sense.
Moss was not performing at all with us and our new offense. Brady forced it to him when it was unneeded.
Solution: trade moss.
Result: Better offense, and better production.
Evidence: 6 games since the bye week, the pats have been VERY efficient w/o Moss: Ravens, Chargers, Steelers, Colts, Lions, Jets
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
i've said i agree that theyre better
and jets were worse tonight. jets got rear ends rocked. not gonna be a fun wk i’ll tell you that much
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
w/ the last pt i was merely pointing out that there are other poss explanations to brady playing better tonight than just moss.
Brady played better because he doesn’t have moss. It wasn;t just this game. look at detroit, pittsburgh, ravens, chargers. He played better without him, than with him for more than JUST this game. 5 games of evidence.
That’s all I am saying. The pats, and Brady, are better off without him.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
i do agree w/ that
but brady throwing to a covered receiver has nothing to do w/ moss being washed up. it was simply bad football
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
It's partly to do with him being not-2007-vintage-Moss
Old Moss would’ve eaten up double- and triple-coverage and still made catches and TDs. 2010-Moss failed, and gave up picks.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
yeah
but my point is not that moss wouldve been covered in 07 but had moss been constantly covered then and brady force fed him the ball all gm neglecting wide open receivers it would be stupid regardless how good the receiver. a covered man is a covered man
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Moss ate double-coverage in 2007
He barely survived single-coverage from Revis in 2009, and got owned by Cromartie in 2010.
2010 Moss isn’t all that.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
exactly.
he is NOT 2007 Moss!
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
again
i’m not debating whether or not the 07 could be covered. but had he been by some inexplicable force (i.e. revis 09 version on top of his gm perhaps) and brady still force fed him it would be stupid. the stupidness isnt necc from moss
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
you are right. not from moss, but from brady.
brady threw it to moss, because he is… well randy moss. In that way, moss was the problem.
He was dropping mostly everything, and brady was forcing it to him, when he is well covered. That poses a problem in terms of wins and offensive production.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
i'll give example
when jets payed the lions, revis had megatron on his island. meanwhileburleson torched jets b/c drew coleman stunk. had stafford repeatedly thrown to johnson it wouldve been bad even though johnson is a great receiver and i’m sure he wants the ball plenty. lions almost beat the jets due to that. so even w/ the pats offense structured around moss he should still pass to the open guy. moss syndrome didnt seem to bother him too much in 1st half. welker played well and hernandez had 80 yds. and then apparently brady had a mosss epiphany
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
had stafford repeatedly thrown to johnson it wouldve been bad even though johnson is a great receiver and i’m sure he wants the ball plenty.
But he didn’t. Also Johnson doesn’t drop more passes than catching them either.
This is BAD.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
good pt
but again. i’m posing a hypothetical situation. you seem not to realize that. and yes, moss does suck. what else would you expect from a slouch?
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
see? YOu now have acknowledged that Moss sucks now.
Moss sucking, and dropping more footbals, then catching them+Brady throwing it to him, resulting in 2 INTs, and many ended drives= Moss traded, and offense better.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Brady got away with it in 2007...
and to a certain extent in 2009. Moss could beat double-coverage.
In 2010 he was just an average WR.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
He was covered easily against miami too.
he also apparently argued with our OC at the half.
Also, did I mention he had MORE drops the CATCHES with us in 4 games???
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Yeah, I think he is washed up.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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IDK you have a guy in your ear saying get me the ball I am in a contract year it could affect (E) what decisions you make especially if they are buddies off the field.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
bing! something to consider at least.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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Yep
The Miami game (a 41-14 beatdown, and really the first convincing Patriots win) had Brady only target Moss once – a fake-spike End Zone pass that Moss promptly dropped.
The Pats owned that game, and they did it by not targeting Moss. Moss was furious and yelled at the OC at half-time. Beginning of the end?
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you know
players dont always play the same from wk to wk. if moss had played this wk trust me the pats still kill the jets and brady has a good gm. youre making it sound like jets wouldve dominated tonight if moss was still on pats
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
NO. YOu are wrong.
Again, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT OFFENSIVE PHILOSOPHY!!!!!
Moss doesn’t fit the west coast style offense(which is what we basically run now).
Moss has DROPPED more than CAUGHT in his 3-4 games with us, and ever since we traded him away, he STILL SUCKS!!!
So how the hell would we perform BETTER without him? We have had BETTER offensive production and more CONTROL over the ball EVER SINCE he left us!
You only look at 2007. HE IS NOT MOSS OF 2007!!!!
If he was with us this game, we would not have done as well at all.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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this isn't a true West Coast offense btw
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which is why I said basically. ;)
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jets d couldnt stop my grandma tonight
and offense couldnt move a kitten. simply put the jets sucked tonight. the pats even w/ moss of 2018 would win tonight. i just find it hilarious that pats fans cant accept in the slightest that perfect tom had (unusual) bad gm in wk 2 or that jets simply played well. it all has to be the fault of moss alone
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
right. bad performance by the jets.
the pats potent offense, that performed like this EVERY week(beside that ONE outlier of the browns game), had NOTHING to do with this win.
You guys, and espn, give us NO CREDIT WHATSOEVER.
Keep thinking that.
And I did acknowledge that the jets played well in wk 2 for you information. Your one sided biasnes is showing.
We did what we said we were going to do. We out performed you in all phases of the game.
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These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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look not saying the pats didnt play well tonight. they sure as hell did. awesome in fact
but its not exactly like the jets put forth a good effort. the only guys tonight who seemed even half interested were greene and holmes
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
I'm sure it was like that around late in the 3rd, when we had 31 points.
Other than that, I hardly believe you guys “didn’t feel like playing” happened once we hit 17, or even 24. We scored 17 quickly, and effectively. You can make that 24 instead of 17.
This is because the pats are VERY GOOD offensively. You guys underestimated us, and our defense, and you paid the price. Yes, you guys played bad, but we also played VERY good.
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true
one team sucking up + opponent playing unbelievable= 45-3
and the worst gm i’ve seen since glavine 7 run inning
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
And the most productive game from the pats I have ever seen this year.
Believe what you will.
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These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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Every Pats fan says
It was Brady’s fault we lost in week 2, because he was throwing it up for a sucky Moss. The Jets did adjust in the 2nd half, but if Brady stops heaving it down the field to Moss the score would have probably have been different.
Would you give a man a foot massage?
by insertscreenname on Dec 7, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
i remember our week 2 open thread comments
about him constantly throwing to Moss when Wes or Herno was wide open
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Yep
THROW TO HERNANDEZ was common, ha.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Moss was awful in week 1, 2 and 3
And in week 4 against the ’Phins they threw at him exactly once (and he dropped a TD in the End Zone). The Pats won that game 41-14.
Moss then yelled at the OC at half-time, and he was traded not that long afterwards.
Coincidence?
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
it could be mentally some also the other guys saying we don’t have moss so we need to step up
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
I think that's part of it, yeah
And Moss was high-risk, high-reward. Dropped 50% of his targets, but when he caught them they were often a TD. That didn’t fit so well with the scheme the Pats are running now – ball-control, quick-routes, passing accurate lazers into small holes.
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This^
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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Have you seen Moss's stats this season?
They’re ugly.
More to the point, Welker/Branch are a mismatch for the Jets CBs. They’re both small and nippy, so they’re hard to cover (just look at Branch’s TD, that’s all quick-cuts and jagging).
Moss has one move – flat-out pace. He just runs and leaps. Cromartie can cover that; Cromartie can’t cover Welker or Branch.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
that ball he didn’t try for from Farve a few weeks back when the Vkes where still in it tells you a lot about him.
It is not hard to understand why talking that out of your locker room has a positive effect on the team no mater whhat he brings to the table.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Actually, he threw one up for grabs against the Ravens
during the game (on 3rd and long, so baasically a punt), and then tossed the hail mary at the end of regulation.
Would you give a man a foot massage?
by insertscreenname on Dec 7, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I forget how that worked
But point being, it wasn’t a ‘normal’ play.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
No. But technically he threw it,
and it was intercepted, so it’s on him.
It’s like when the receiver drops one that hits him in the numbers, and it’s picked off just before it hits the ground. Why does something like that have to go on the QB?
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by insertscreenname on Dec 7, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
When you have a receiver like moss
you are obligated to throw to him. Look at what happened today. Not just today, but since the bye week(except that outlier of the browns game). Our offense is better without him BECAUSE brady doesn’t force it to anyone.
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These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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i've figured it all out
reason the jets played so bad is holmes played in this one. we didnt have him for the 1st gm and sanchez was so much better. if only holmes hadnt played tonight…… :)
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Did sanchez force it to holmes in double coverage(or CLOSE single coverage)
multiple times?
Plus holmes is contributing well for you guys this season, while moss with us, DROPPED more balls, then CAUGHT.
You tell me the difference.
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lol, what?
are you saying the Patriots decided to lose?
Guess winning decisively doesn’t equate to looking good.
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Using the mighty power or you logic the Patriots aren’t a good team because we beat them.
But apparently that win doesn’t exist in your mind because tonight happened.
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Its not only IF you lose, its HOW you lose
And even how you win, that shows what kind of team you are.
So you're saying
The Jets will not be able to make adjustments at all and just completely fall apart? How you win or lose doesn’t matter, dude. Teams make adjustments week to week, quarter to quarter. Yes, things went badly tonight, nothing they did was working, so they will go back to the drawing board and find something that does work.
Stop it already. All you are doing is repeating one sentence over and over. You’re like ESPN.
Guess it’s impossible to have another wild card run this year, being that we had got shutout in November.
Let the Jags or Colts in over us guys, we have a better record but we just lost that Pats game too badly.
This is so silly.
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If you can't handle even
STAYING in a game against a very porous defense, how are you going to have a playoff run?
If it were to actually happen, I would imagine by pulling it out of our asses like LAST FREAKING YEAR.
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great plan.
Last year we could run the ball.
Last year we could shut down a passing game.
Last year we could max blitz and get pressure.
Last year we could do a lot of things.
Glorify last year and doom and gloom this one when we’ve already matched our wins.
Nice.
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Never said they were great.
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For the fiftieth time, terrible. Stop stuffing words in my mouth and stop asking that question over and over.
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For the fiftieth time, terrible. Stop stuffing words in my mouth and stop asking that question over and over.
And what kind of team prepares for 10 days against a rival, in the biggest game of the year, and gets out played in EVERY phase of the game, from challenges to punting to the coin flip?
The coin flip huh?
Everything you’ve said can be boiled down to “The Jets might as well forfeit the rest of the year because of tonight”.
I don’t think they’re great. Far from it. They have serious issues.
But this IS a playoff bound team. Don’t count them out before they get a chance to fix themselves.
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Everything you’ve said can be boiled down to "The Jets might as well forfeit the rest of the year because of tonight".
Who said this. Of course they are playoff bound. The question is whether they are Super Bowl bound. Or did you forget what the purpose of the season was: To Win the Super Bowl.
You don’t win super bowls preparing for and playing a game like that.
Amateurs.
Who said half the crap you’re projecting onto others?
I typically worry about the playoffs before I do the Super Bowl. One usually comes before the other. And when you started this topic it was about playing like a playoff and super bowl team.
You pretty much embrace the attitude I intended to make light of.
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A team that had a bad day
There is seriously no cookie cutter team that blows a game like this. It happens to the best of them.
There is seriously no cookie cutter team that blows a game like this. It happens to the best of them.
Yeah. It tells us NOTHING about
1. The QB.
2. The Offensive Co.
3. The ability of the coaching staff to prepare.
4. How they perform against a very good team.
or many other things. just a bad day.
I wonder how many things could be seen if they had actually won?
Personally I’ve already made up my mind about the OC.
It’s no less ridiculous that you negate a win over the same team than him chalking it up to a bad day.
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It’s no less ridiculous that you negate a win over the same team than him chalking it up to a bad day.
I don’t negate the first win. It was a good win against a team that opened the door. But the Pats were not anywhere near as good a team then as they are now.
And the Pats showed that. They dominated, that is completely dominated the Jets who get slapped around in every phase o the game. They could even stop 4 down tries inside the 15 in the 4th Q. They were being embarrassed and could do absolutely nothing about it.
When you edge out a team once, and then they completely knock you silly next, you don’t call it even.
Quite a different team, yes
They’ve gotten rid of Moss and added Branch; Hernandez, Gronkowksi and Tate have the trust of Brady to some extent now (they didn’t in week 2); BenJarvus Green-Ellis is a starting RB and Danny Woodhead is the #2 RB. Welker is a lot more healthy now – he’s had an extra 3 months to heal his knee.
That’s a significantly different offensive lineup.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, it does.
1. He’s still young. He’s a second year with very little college experience leading up to this that got flustered when he realized his D wasn’t going to help bail them out. So we learned what we already knew: he’s improved tremendously but to no one’s surprise he’s not Tom Brady in his second year.
2. We learned nothing new about Shotty. He’s a terrible OC. He was during this game and he has been basically all year.
3. We already knew that too.
4. We learned they had a bad day. We beat them earlier this year, we beat the Chargers last year and we BARELY lost to the Ravens.
It was a bad day where our KNOWN weaknesses were exposed.
With the exception of the Browns game...
the Pats have looked leaps and bounds better without Moss this year.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
They keep getting turnovers
I’m not sure how many games they have to get multiple-interceptions in for it to be good D and not just poor O by the opposition.
They’ve hung multiple picks on Sanchez, Roethlisberger, Manning, and Shawn Hill, each, this past month.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Turnovers aren't everything
Even if they decide who is the defensive player of the year, you can’t be dead last in yards allowed and near last in points allowed and win a super bowl.
Pats are 20-something
And the Saints were mid-20s in yards allowed last year, too.
They kinda won the Superbowl. And they did it with fortuitous interceptions.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
that's correct.
they were 22nd I believe, and they were #1 or 2 in turnovers.
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this is the thing.
No one gives the pats any credit because they don’t look flashy.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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Even with the turnovers,
the Jets drove down the field in the 4th quarter. They failed to score, so the D did its job. But by giving up those 60 some yards, the numbers and ranking of the D suffers.
This is why anyone who says this D is truly the worst in the league is on one hell of a drug.
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by insertscreenname on Dec 7, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
exactly.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
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Believe it or not, one game that you prepare for
gives indications of what you will do against other teams of equal quality.
Terrible
you asked me to name a good team the Jets looked good against.
The Patriots, captain circular logic.
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by Bro Namath on Dec 6, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Jets barely won at home, and got BLASTED on the road. Against no other very good team have they played well.
I guess this is as close as we get to a concession out of you. Sorry you didn’t think it through.
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There is not a single phase of the game
that the Jets out performed the Pats.
Not a single one. Nothing.
Challenges. Punting. Nothing.
You should probably tell the record keepers to adjust our record to 8-4 then. Since one awful loss negates everything.
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The question isn't the record
(we’ve played a weak schedule).
The question is: What are you likely to do against GOOD teams, you know, playoff teams.
Split games, apparently.
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it is HOW they lost.
Name one aspect of the game that the Jets played better than the Pats.
Just one.
Nobody is arguing that the Jets played well in this game.
You’re just using one beyond terrible game to say we don’t have a shot. I’m relying on history and realism, and the raw upside of this team which I have seen, this year.
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How they lost...
Was a bad game that got out of control like bad games do. It happens.
It exposed what almost all of us here who pay any attention already knew. We suck when we have time to prep, our OC is dreadful and our QB, despite some fantastic games this year, is still a young QB with less college experience than most NFL QBs.
It also showed that we need to draft a couple safeties and a pass rusher!
Doesn’t even make sense.
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plz do not let this guy represent us
he’s using stupid logic. We got smoked by the browns in every situation, and barely beat the chargers and ravens and bills. and we are 10-2. Good luck for the rest of the season. Beat the steelers plz, their fans are jackasses.
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el oh el
kv, he thinks you’re a Pats fan.
I could see how it would look that way to an outsider. :P
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I think the let down
was emotional. Leonhard going down hit the team right in the gut. They didn’t have any heart out there and it showed. Only thing they can do is regroup and take it out on the Dolphins next week.
Yeah.
And I think all the hype really got to Sanchez.
He’s still young and inexperienced and it shows. I don’t mind. Bad nights happen. This was a bad night that happened to fall at the same time the other team was having a superb night. We made a lot of mistakes and the team needs to rethink its preparation because I’m telling you… I wish we had only 4 days between every single game with the way we look after having time right now.
Wow, not what I expected
I’d say something pithy like good game, but… wow.
Good luck for the rest of the season (as long as it doesn’t damage the Pats). No injuries and such.
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We've won every game that we scored a TD this season.
Every time our OC has had extra time to prepare our offense fails to score a TD. Go figure.
We were flat out out-coached.
by Crackback on Dec 6, 2010 11:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No sense
Our coaching staff makes none
by JetsFanMurphy on Dec 6, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
And
outplayed. Make no mistake that right now the Pats are the better team.
eh...
Out-coached seems most likely. We did nothing on either side. If guys aren’t ready to play or aren’t aligned right then its coaching.
Funny how they caught us in mismatches all night and we couldn’t do it once; and we have better personnel.
Did Brady do anything special other than attack mismatches? Hmmm… Is there a lesson to be learned here?
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To add...
While I’m all for throwing Shotty under the bus and then driving it over him six or seven times, Ryan doesn’t get a pass here. The defense was an absolute joke. This team wins when it believes it can win. When Sanchez threw the red zone interception, that was officially the end of the game.
That one was good coaching by Hoodie
Spikes has been biting on play-action all year badly. This is the first time he saw a run, and didn’t bite down ridiculously hard on it. I’m imagining Belichick had been sitting on his shoulder all week saying “play-action pass, play-action pass”
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
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Think of it this way:
We only need 2 wins to practically guarantee a Playoff spot – and once we get there, I can live with a transformation from laughing stock to Superbowl Champion
Rex Ryan:
Humiliating for one night. I’ll fight tomorrow, I can tell you that.
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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Practice needs to be hell and every Jets fan needs to watch it
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 6, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Before ANY season
If I said the Jets would be 9-3 with a very good chance of making the playoffs almost all of you would have been ecstatic.
Just a little bit of perspective.
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It's rough because expectations are sooooooo high
And the team doesn;t come close to living up to them
When did Buffalo learn how to not-suck? Seriously.
AFC East is a deadly division.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Fitz is a gamer, I thought he just needed a chance
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Big arm, decent legs to extend plays, and an Ivy Leaguer
He’s a baller.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
yeah smart as hell the question is are they so happy that they pass on the QB if they get the first pick?
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Give the guy a franchise LT to keep him upright
He’s got enough RBs to last a lifetime.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know the kids coming out this year, is there a Joe Thomas (projected anyway) LT who is much better then the rest? Yeah QB could be great and nothing will happen if he is running for his life.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
when?
seriously, I’d like to know that.
That didn’t happen to the Pats teams that i can remem…
WAIT. 30-3 vs the bills right? But that was a week 1 or 2 game
That was the Patriots smoking the Cardinals to the tune of 47-7 in Week 16...
…and the Cardinals then went to the Super Bowl.
by Richard Hill on Dec 6, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
No way...
You think we can be a great franchise like the Cardinals one day. I’M SORRY. I’M UNNECESSARILY MOODY! THAT SARCASM WAS UNCALLED FOR
The Cardinals were different
They were the one decent team in a division of perennial losers (even in ’08). Also, the Cardinals had future Hall of Famers Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald leading the charge into the playoffs (and the record books)
Patriots were blown out 31-0 by the freaking BILLS in week 1 of 2003
That year ended well for the Pats.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Please don't
It’s one game. To , and it is making me choke as I type this, the best HC/QB combo of the decade. The Patriots outplayed us and we were flat. We’ll get em next time.
9-3 we’re still on pace for the best record in Jets history
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 6, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
We'd need to win out the next few games
That’s gonna be tough with the Bears, Steelers and Phins on the way
I havent given up on the season or anything
But seriously
What was that?
I agree though we’ll kick their ass in the playoffs
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 6, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
We sucked
But it’s one game. Have to bounce back strong against Miami. Defense needs to show up. Sanchez needs to stop sucking like he has the last two weeks. This one is over – from here on out, the biggest game of the season is whichever one comes next, because now the race is on for the wild card.
Oh, and I don’t believe in the Same Old Jets.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
we got owned.
I’d rather it be this way than our staff actually thinking they had a decent game plan.
This slice of humble pie will go a long way.
by Crackback on Dec 6, 2010 11:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Also, Coles looked good standing on the sidelines.
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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If you can touch it, you can catch it.
This!
Why not give him a shot?
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 6, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
It did...
And then Shotty called retarded pass plays whenever we made it in the red zone. Go figure.
Shotty didn't throw a pass right into the hands of a Pats linebacker, did he?
I hate the gimmicky crap on 3rd and short as much as anybody, but he was the least of our problems last night
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Dec 7, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
I feel good about Danny Woodhead
He deserves everything he gets in New England. He was dumped for David Clowney and Joe McKnight.
He’s always been a star in the pre-season and a hard worker and we treated him like a washed up has-been.
I will never root for the New England Patriots.
I will always root for Danny Woodhead.
I really like that kid.
He’s got a lot of heart.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 6, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
At least he was honorable...
The bulk of it was “We don’t make excuses, we got our butts kicked, we need to improve”.
there still some games left.
If they lose and we win next week, then this loss means nada. Hopefully we keep playing football and put it on the phins and the steelers going forward.
by Crackback on Dec 6, 2010 11:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
over the past 10 yrs.... we are the little brothers
by blazin pp face on Dec 6, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
The Steelers game is now a lot more important
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 6, 2010 11:56 PM EST reply actions
We tie the second largest loss in MNF history
Standing the test of time for allllllllllll the wrong reasons
Will it?
Will this slice of humble pie go along way? We’ll see at home next week against Miami because the last time this happened the Jets backed into the playoffs.
Rex needs to put this behind them; everyone has a stinker and this was it. Hopefully, it won’t translate into anything else.
One thing, everyone talks Brady up. Check out the receivers Yards After Catch, that is not on Brady but rather on the skill of the receivers. Whatevs…Chezmo needs to step up his game on the big stage
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose
i rthink it will.
Schotty has refused to creatte favorable match-ups all year. Maybe this will serve as a hard lesson.
by Crackback on Dec 7, 2010 12:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I doubt it.
Shotty doesn’t learn from anything.
What we can hope for is that we get a new OC. I’m tried of Martyball 2.0.
Jets lose
If you are going to talk smack….at least make an effort to back it up
Agreed.
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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If you can touch it, you can catch it.
Rex is Rex...
And the smack won’t end. You can’t only love it when it goes in our favor.
Team preparation seems to be our biggest issue right now. Time always works against us.
So uh,
the Jets got embarassed tonight &…..
What's that about?
by Brian. on Dec 7, 2010 12:01 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
"If they'd want to go at it again right now I'd do it"
Rex just…..shh. I love you big boy but shhhhh.
Nope. You’ve got to keep swaggin. Up 40 or down 40, keep talking if that’s your game.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Dec 7, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Can Rex explain
why he is SOOOOO bad at challenges? That terrible bit of shenanigans was just the latest in poor management. When was the last time they overturned a spot? And it was the sole reason he didn’t challenge the Tate TD. (Which on my third viewing, he looks like he gets a full knee down before the elbow goes out of bounds, rendering the “what part of his arm counts” argument moot)
Hey you guys, it’s not over yet. All we need are 43 points in the post game press conferences and we’re golden.
I think we're...
The 6th best team: Pats, Falcons, Steelers, Saints, Packers are better in some order.
cut sanchez
god, he blows. rex’s defense is a joke too. leonard sucks,so we can’t blame it on him.
by theoneandonlydeej on Dec 7, 2010 12:05 AM EST reply actions
good sounds like motivation and bulletin board material
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
I don't think they did.
Personally, I think they were just as scared by their last minute wins as many of us were.
This wasn’t so much a game of underdog vs. titan as it was titan vs. titan. We’re better with the pure underdog monkier.
when you keep winning games like the Jets have I think it is easy to believe that you can’t be beat
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
It is almost like we need these games to be good. the media was hyping this team up the Ravens beat us then we woke up, after 5 in a row the Packers told us what time it is, after all the crazy comebacks we thought we were unbeatable and the Pats reminded us who wears the pants in the division……will this game wake us up???(I FREAKING HOPE SO)
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
I'm watching Mark in this post game conference and despite the maturity
And I’m terrified he’s gonna hit a funk after this.
He'll be okay.
He’ll have a down day or two and then remember that he’s better than this and move forward. He’s a good QB. He’ll bounce back.
The problem with games like this is once things slide out of control it just becomes a nightmare. I think they came out flat and all the little things working against them get it into their minds that the world was against them and they just cracked.
Schotty, what a great head coach he'll be
How can you not expect a great coach like Schotty to become a great head coach.
I mean, when you get the ball within the 10 yard line, and then bunch the offense in, like you’re going to run up the gut, and the you fool the d by calling for a pattern that runs right into the bunched up defense rather than running an out patern to the open field. How brilliant is that. No defense in the league would expect that play. He’s just so smart!!!! If i was an NFL team owner, i would try to get him right now!!!
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
I hope they do, PLEASE TAKE SCHOTTY FROM US
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i mean to shotty getting hc job not mcdaniels
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
I wonder if francessa could handle the excitment from the Jets getting beat so bad, he may ghave soiled his pants?
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
He probably still has a boner this morning.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
By the way, I know it was VERy inopportune, and not too classy
but I have been asked for you to unban patsnation. He really isn;t a troll, and all he said was “INTERCEPTED” after all.
Was uncalled for, but not trolling imo. I’m sure he won’t be like that again, but if he does by all means, you have the power to ban him again.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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by patriotguy2 on Dec 7, 2010 12:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
how is that not trolling? that post says in your face bitch just with different words.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Really? Pointing out an interception isn't quite doing the Dougie...
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
whats the purpose behind the post?
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
You'd think if they were trolling, they'd actually *try*, though.
I wasn’t watching your game-thread, but I’d imagine a bunch of Jets fans said a hell of a lot worse about Sanchez than merely “INTERCEPTION”.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 7, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Bad timing I guess I think that was the 3rd ban of the game. IDK there have been plenty of pats fans here and there have been good conversations, I read PP and have no problems. I guess he saw it as rubbing it in at the time.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
i did notice earlier in the wk he was fine i was in fact wondering why suddenly he was acting like a jerk. he was also warned before that i believe though
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
i wouldn't know but
I am sure he’s not a jackass like some people here MAY make him out to be.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
he has changed a lot since he came to pp
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Pat McAfee -Colts punter-"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There’s no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
if you remember
from the “tom brady ideal jet” thread ast wk i was the one commenting how nice pats fans seemed. i believe he was one of them. which is why it surprised me tonight
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
he is nice....i know he shouldn't have posted it
but its not like he said "Sanchez sucks Pats are beating your a** "
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I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Toy Story wears no. 39 100x better than D.D.R
Pat McAfee -Colts punter-"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There’s no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
yeah yeah i know
but you have to understand that jet fans werent exactly in the mood of dealing w/ that tonight and he prob shouldve known. look i’m usually not as testy as i’m w/ comedic and pats 2 above w/ relation to 1st gm i’m just in an unsurprisingly bad mood
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
You're a hell of a lot more polite than Browns and Steeler fans, ye gods.
I liked the Lions guys.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
...they were nice...but bashed me because I had an Ohio State pic
Michigan ugh
Non Sibi Sed Patriae &I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Toy Story wears no. 39 100x better than D.D.R
Pat McAfee -Colts punter-"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There’s no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
hey i got the brady pic
and i didnt catch a lot of flak from you guys. i’d say that’s pretty impressive. i was expecting worse
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
People on PP bash you for being an Ohio St. fan..
You expected better from a Michigan-based team? :P
at least youre not vikings fans
btw i was impressed. in the game thread there was very little cursing and when it happened guys got pretty ticked off. very impressive i would think
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Yeah they were pretty bad.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
didn't have a prob w. them...except for REVENGE4FAVRE...ughhhh
Non Sibi Sed Patriae &I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Toy Story wears no. 39 100x better than D.D.R
Pat McAfee -Colts punter-"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There’s no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
yuck...
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
this game was hot garbage I don’t blame you. I hope if they meet again we see a different result.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
btw i just noticed your tag
wouldnt mind that punching hand for my tv screen right now
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
I forget who it was who asked if McCourty was shutdown...
What do you guys make of him? You’ve had Revis, you know what a shutdown CB looks like.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
I will say I thought BB was drinking to take him over Wilson.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
proving he knows what he is doing. (Not to do with wilson it is to early to say he is a bust) But I didn’t think McC was that good but he was been good so far.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
He didn't have a great number of picks in college
but that’s partly because nobody threw at him. Doesn’t look good on the stat sheet, so he was kinda off the radar on a pure numbers analysis.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
I am not really an INT guy with most CBs (not saying they are not important just you could be an excellent cover corner and never get an INT) but he seems lke a really smart kid.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Yep
That’s apparently what sold Belichick on him. He had McCourty break down tapes, and McCourty knew the assignments of every guy on the field on every play.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
in your opinion how big of an addition has Mankins been since he came back?
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
not asking me BUT
I think he made the OL mostly better than before.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
no problem just asking someone who watched all the games, I get streams of them when the JEts/Bears aren’t playing at the same time but it is harder to notice things when watching on the computer.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Connolly was good at pass-pro (he's playing RG now)
But Mankins is clearly the best Patriot O-lineman at pulling. It really showed on one of the rushing TDs today – Mankins looped from LG all the way to the right, outside Vollmer, and moved the pile with Vollmer to get BJGE across.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
I guess he stayed in game shape because he didn’t seem to miss a beat. I am surprised he didn’t have any kind of injury problems from the hold out (like we usually see when they go from nothing to real games quickly with no build up)
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
he is a rancher back in Fresno, CA
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I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Toy Story wears no. 39 100x better than D.D.R
Pat McAfee -Colts punter-"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There’s no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
really? you would think he could hire people to do that stuff….lol I guess he enjoysit.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
his dad is a rancher too...Mankins must love wrestling cows
Non Sibi Sed Patriae &I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Toy Story wears no. 39 100x better than D.D.R
Pat McAfee -Colts punter-"@StampedeBlue I hope your website gets exposed for a complete joke. There’s no reason for you to do that, and its completely ridiculous."
He was rough the first couple of games
but he was obviously fairly fit. He works on his family’s cattle-ranch, so it’s not like he wasn’t active and throwing things around.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
wasnt me but i remember what youre referring to
i honestly wasnt paying too much attention to mccourty tonight. if he was on holmes though than not so good, he was the only guy who looked alive tonight
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
He was the one who got that INT covering Edwards on the streak.
he has 6 ints on the year now. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
#32
IF you happen to see any highlights of the game…. although that may seem unlikely.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by then i had sadly turned away. tough to admit but i did. doesnt happen often
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
They played LCB and RCB
He was the guy who got that interception where he was glued to the inside of Edwards, and Sanchez underthrew it.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
I still can’t believe sanchez threw a pass to spikes
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Any other week, Spikes would've been hitting the RB.
He’d been biting on play-action horribly. That was literally the first time he hasn’t this year.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Sanchez was freaked and spooked by about the second series.
Once the Pats started jumping his check down to LT (just like the Ravens and the Pats did), he lost his security blanket and could throw a 5 yard pass. By the time of his INTs he was fried for the game.
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