Fan expectations for the Jets in the post season
by JerseyJetsFan on Dec 29, 2010 5:37 PM EST
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PrintI'm curious as to what you fans think about the Jets and their upcoming run at the Super Bowl. While I'm not disappointed in this team, I can honestly say my expectations aren't sky high. I'm not hopping on the "Same Old Jets" bandwagon of misery, but I'll venture to say that this Jets team isn't as good as hyped up to be by Rex Ryan, especially on defense.
The offense is what I thought it was going to be, a talented group of players with a QB that sometimes holds them back and other times powers the team to a win. The defense however is falling apart. It could be the opposing teams growing familiar with Rex Ryan's scheme or it could be the lack of players designed to fit the scheme, either way this defense is shaky at best. Especially after the loss of Jim Leonhard, the Jets ability this year in coverage is severely lacking.
All in all, I'm cautiously optimistic about the Jets post season chance for success. Our offense seems to be pulling it together and it appears Shottenheimer has improved his play calling. However, the defense which was supposed to be the corner-stone of this franchise is turning into the weak link. This Jets team will go as far as the defense and Mark Sanchez can take us.
Lets hear your expectations in the comments!
-Rob
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Think of the Positives:
If we get just one post-season victory this year then Rex Ryan will set a new record for post-season wins by a Jets head coach (with 3) – that in itself would be a very good omen for things to come…
or it could be the start of an Andy Reid-like era – a great quarterback, top 5 defense, lots of noise, lots of Playoff appearances, no rings.
Yall did get a pick for Herm Edwards from the Chiefs
THAT is a positive
Just try to STOP US
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 29, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Who would have ever thought the defense would be the weakest link of this team?
It really is and this d scares nobody except the Jets fans,lol. Sanchez has had a season right in line with what we figured. I felt more confident in last years bunch but in the playoffs anything can happen.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Here's My Real Expectations For The Jets Post Season
Step 1 – Go to Kansas City and beat the Chiefs, they are the prototypical team that the Jets can beat (like the Lions, though with a better running game)
Step 2 – Take on the Patriots as 10+ point underdogs, in the snow. And on a botched handoff to Danny Woodhead in which Vernon Gholston flies into the backfield and knocks him out, as well as the ball, and takes it back for a TD. Getting our first ever franchise win over a division opponent in the playoffs.
Step 3 – Fulfull the prophetic words of Rex Ryan and go to Pittsburgh again. Down 6-7 with 0:03 left on the clock, Nick Folk goes inches right, but there’s a flag on the play against the Steelers, and Folk makes the kick on the very next play – sending the Jets to the Superbowl.
Step 4 – Face off against the New Orleans Saints in the Superbowl. Yes. Saints, who gave Rex his first ever loss as a Head Coach. What happens next…I really don’t have a clue.
You forgot one thing
Winning the lottery in between steps 3 and 4, ;)
by OldJetsFanatic on Dec 29, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
LoL
This guy said the Chiefs are like the Lions. C’MON MAN! LOL. I’m a Chiefs fan and yes I’m used to reading stuff like that but at this point of the season, it would be nice to get a little more respect than that.
Its basically...hope for a lightening strike.
Maybe suddenly this team stops dropping balls, making untimely penalties, stops over scripting, starts getting pressure on the QB from exotic blitzes, and Sanchez gets into a comfort zone he doesn’t come out of until Disney World.
If that happens sky’s the limit.
But hoping that what happened all year long doesn’t happen when it counts, well…
I can see them winning a first round game (but wouldn’t surprise me if they have a problem either with Manning or the KC running game). I don’t really expect them to beat the team in the next round, which would require mistake free inspired football.
I think the Jets match up well against the Chiefs if they draw them in round 1. Even with depeleted weapons in their passing game, and Peyton regressing to the guy who cant win the big one, the Colts still are scary at home. After that, bring on the Patriots, I don’t think you’ll see a 45-3 thrashing if they meet up again. I think the game between them would be intensely competitive. However, if the Jets were to pull it out, I worry about it “being their super bowl” in a way and taking too much out of them. It seems that they have allowed the patriots to cloud their mind and become their focus, rather than their focus being to become super bowl champions.
Or the momentum could be so great that it makes the AFC Championship a piece of cake
That’s how the Patriots did it in 2001 Playoffs after beating the Raiders in the *uck Rule Game
The Colts are scary at home? You haven’t been to Arrowhead. 7-0
by I_Bleed_Red. on Dec 30, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
But isn't it really the team....
Arrowhead is the same as when KC tanked a few years ago. You guys have a better infrastructure starting with the upper management level through the coach. You have a QB who learned as a back-up to minimize his mistakes. And the players believe in themselves and play solid fundamental football.
I think the Jets will squeek out a win, but it’ll be close either way. Of course, that’s inder the assumption that we play KC in the opening round.
by oldskooljet on Dec 30, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Well...
it is the team. But, the 12th man doesn’t hurt either. We fucked up Phillip Rivers on MNF for the season opener. I expect the playoff game to be just as nuts. It will interesting to see if Sanchez can handle the elements, but its going to be a challenge for him I can guarantee it. If I were you guys I’d rather play Indy right now. Their defense is weaker than ours and they are one dimensional on offense. Granted its Manning, but there is only so much he can do.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Dec 30, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, you're right if the Jets had been to arrowhead, it'd be 6-1
the thing that’s scary about the colts isnt their 12th man, its the matchup problems the present to the Jets, and the fact that they would be on turf. The Chiefs have a much better 12th man intangible than the Colts no doubt, but personnel wise, I think the Chiefs are a much better match up for the Jets. Revis puts the clamps on Bowe, the run D slows down Charles and Jones enough, leaving my main concerns being Charles catching the ball out of the backfield and Moeaki making key grabs. A game the Jets should win if they could put 20 on the board, which with Shotty finally finding the offense’s niche, I am confident they would be able to do. Jets 27-14
Chiefs have the league low at home
when it comes to allowing points. It is under 14 I do believe. 27 points would be amazing there.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Picks
146-94
You explained...
everything except for the 27 points you guys are going to score. They main reason I have confidence we can win this game is because our 12th man will cause Sanchez to make mistakes. We aren’t a bunch of scrubs on defense with the likes of Hali, Derrick Johnson, Flowers, and Berry. All of whom can cause game changing turnovers. Chiefs win the turnover battle, Chiefs win the game 16-10.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 1, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Just like last year
1 win and everything else is just added on
JETS
That's where I am.
I just want to win the first game. It feels like it makes you “legit.” I really don’t think we’ll go all the way but… really… we’ve been competitive with most of the teams we’re likely to face out of the first round: Ravens, Steelers and/or Pats (first game anyway).
are the Jets = Chiefs
if I read your thought correctly?
The Chiefs pushed the Ravens last year in the opener and beat the Steelers in KC in OT.
The Patriots are the Patriots, yet the Offense is not what it once was and the Defense is young and inexperienced. The stats say that
Just try to STOP US
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 29, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Michael28102 read my mind
Just build on wins and have big efforts from young players like Greene, Keller, and Mark.
Sad right now I have more confidence in Sanchez than the defense complete opposite
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
From last year
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
All it takes is a team to get on a role
Some new trick plays hopefully Shotty has a few more passing plays for Brad SMith, some Mcknight reverses etc.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Honestly I'd be surprised if we made it out of the first round
No matter whether it’s against KC or Indy. Manning will shred us. Shred us. He owns Rex Ryan, and he’ll own Rex Ryan and our not-nearly-up-to-snuff secondary. And our only hope against KC is that they keep handing off to TJ instead of Charles. Jamaal’s the scariest RB in the league and it’ll be like Matt Forte x 20. It doesn’t really matter who we’d face though—Pittsburgh + Polamalu = bad Sanchez, Baltimore’s better than they were when they beat us in Week 1, and the Patriots… well.
Us vs. the Patriots
Yeah I had to make a separate comment for this lol. Sure the next time around the offense will probably do better against them, than they did last time, but that won’t matter at all if they score 45 on our defense again. So how the hell are we supposed to be able to stop them? They are basically made to crush any zone defense with Woodhead and the TEs. So for us to beat the Pats we’d have to play perfect man-to-man defense and actually generate a pass rush up the middle. But the problem with that is that we don’t have enough good players to do either of those things.
We can count on Revis to take someone completely out of the passing game. Okay, the Pats have Welker, Branch, Hernandez and Gronkowski who can all be primary targets on typical passing plays. Most likely he goes on Welker, which leaves Cro on Branch. So then who’s guarding the TEs? None of our safeties are great in coverage—Lowery’s the best we’ve got, and he’s really only good at jumping routes and will definitely get burned. Our LBs are mediocre in pass coverage too, and they’re gonna have their hands full with Danny Woodhead anyway when they’re not blitzing. Sigh, I seriously feel like we gave them the missing ingredient to their offense right there.
Man we are so friggin’ screwed.
Funny you say Lowery
We played once a long time ago and the Chiefs had a Lowery (Nick) link
We had the defense back then and the kicker
Just try to STOP US
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 29, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Nick Lowery y'know
I liked him when he played for the Jets. And back when I was like 4 or 5 years old I knew he was on the Chiefs before that thanks to Tecmo Super Bowl. He was like the best kicker in the game too ._.
by Exystence on Dec 30, 2010 10:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Our real chance to win it all would be as follows
Get the 5 seed and play well and beat colts/jags in round 1. Then I have confidence we could beat the ravens (assuming the steelers beat the chiefs) and then meet the steelers or pats in the AFC champ game. The steelers we have a shot at because it would be at home and the pats we would need to play a near perfect game.
Im rooting for the 5th seed because i really think if we play well, we can get by the colts
JETS
I think the Chiefs will be harder than the Colts, but I agree, that is probably the best if not only path, esp if it goes
Colts > Ravens > Steelers
by ________key on Dec 29, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Colts will still be very tough but not as hard as last year
You just can never tell which Jets team you are going to get. If they finally play a complete game on both sides of the ball, no team can beat them. I know that sounds crazy but if you can get an offensive showing like last week and a defensive showing like the Packer/Dolphin/Steeler games, they can beat anybody.
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by YankeesJets on Dec 29, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
if schotty keeps progressing with his play calling like he has these last 2 weeks, i think we're gonna scare the bejesus out of everybody.
Slowly and sneakily, schotty has been changing his philosophy and is getting our playmakers the ball in positions to make plays. If he keeps that going, we could be poised to explode at exactly the right time.
And our defense has held some very good offenses in check. The first pats game we held them to 14. Yes they’re different now, but are they actually better or just better than expected? Its not like they sucked back then. They were still leading the league in pts scored at 30+ per contest. We held a good ravens team to 10. A good packers team to 9. Held the steelers under 20.
We could easily get it clicking and start exploding on teams.
My expectations are WE DESTROY EVERYBODY!!!
by Crackback on Dec 29, 2010 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
alright who are you and what have you done with the real crackback...lol
hope your right . we are playing better on offence than this time last year but a lot worse on d. if we can get some big plays from the defence like a few pick 6’s we could go a long way ,if not we need to re-structure our d for next year
Not that much worse
A few disastrous games, but the defense is still quite quite good
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by OldProspects on Dec 30, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno man
I think teams are figuring out they can run on us now, and they can beat us deep with the passing game, and we’re absolute shit against TEs. The Chiefs are a terrible matchup for us. Charles, Moeaki and Bowe are going to tear us up. And if we face the Colts somehow then its not like Joe Addai is any slouch, and that whole slew of WRs and Clark with Rex-killer Manning at the helm… ugh
The optimist in me thinks that we can get it together and start playing the way we were playing defense early in the year, but guys are gonna have to step up. I’m beyond hoping that Pace will ever live up to his ridiculous contract, but shoot how about Kyle Wilson playing some effin defense? How about Gholston finally getting a sack or two? How about Cro getting back into his early season form?
by Exystence on Dec 30, 2010 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m not concerned about our run defense at all; we’ve bottled up much better backs than mendenhall and forte throughout the year (AP, rice, foster, hillis). I think one of the ongoing issues is pace crashing down too hard and we give big runs as a result. Its an easy fix if we do indeed return to focusing on fundementals.
I’m not really concerned about anybody on KC. Revis erases Bowe, there’s no way pouha and devito get knocked around in a playoff game so their run-game probably won’t get going. Maybe McCluster can make a play, but has that guy done anything since like week 2?
If we play our game, everybody else is going to have to worry about matching up with us.
by Crackback on Dec 30, 2010 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ok, notice a correlation here
The last two Jet opponents ran the ball real well on the Jets. In both of those games, the Jets got no push from the D-line in running or passing situations. However, the same can be said about both of their opponents D-line. The correlation? The fields. Both of the fields played on are considered the two worst in the league. When you playing football on a horrendous field, it always favor the offense. So what does that mean. The Jets run defense is not as bad as they looked the last two weeks and Wayne Hunter might not be as good as he looked (hoped i’m wrong about the latter). Also, no Trevor Pryce.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Dec 30, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting post. Who or what determines those two fields to be among the worst in the league?
by nationalist88 on Dec 30, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I believe this knowledge is well known, however, I did some internet research.
Found two articles that helps support what i’m trying to say. Just remember, i’m not a person who see anything on the internet and run with it. However, I thought what i was posting was common knowledge spoken around the league among players, front office, and the media.
www.stadiumsofprofootball.com/sportsvariables.htm
www.gazettenet.com/2010/12/11/soldier-field-sod-039worst039
great point about the fields.
Heinz and soldier are notoriously bad, especially this time of year.
by Crackback on Dec 30, 2010 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i think we are the team all will fear
we are the one team in the playoffs that every team will hate playing.
we can win our 1st game and after that i just hope to see an improvement from most of the players . would like to see us use mc knight on some run plays in the offseason and see green get back in a groove like last year.
however we do in the playoffs players like cro,edwards and holmes are playing for new contracts and its there last chance to show us why we should keep them.
if we beat the chiefs and and players can show us things to make us optimistic for next year i’ll be happy.
Actually
If you ask other fans, were the team you want to play right now
JETS
by michael28102 on Dec 30, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
I don't have any just happy to make the playoffs after this seasons highs and lows.
At times they looked great at times they looked like a non playoff team. This team can for sure beat KC but imo the odds of that happening are no better than 50/50. I could see them playing like they did against the Steelers just as easy as the performance they put forth against the Fins the second time. Lets hope the offense can play like they did against the Bears and the defense can play like they did earlier in the season. If they put it all together I think they can keep up with the Pats but not sure they can beat them the way that offense has looked recently.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
I hope they don’t look past the Cheifs it would be a huge mistake.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
I do not see how you can look past
a team in a playoff game. Especially when that team is unbeaten at home.
The Jets aren't looking past the chiefs, the fans are.
If the Jets don’t play well, they will lose, no matter who they play.
The only way the fans can be overlooking them is if they haven't been paying attention
The Chiefs are SCARY right now for us especially considering where our defense has been failing. Jamaal Charles is the best RB in the league this year. Yes, he’s better than Foster. The only thing that could save us is if they use TJ half of the time like they have all year, but I doubt it because the reason for that seems to be to save up Charles for presumably the playoffs. That guy could easily go off for 200+ yards and 3 TDs combined rushing/receiving against us, considering what Matt friggin Forte did.
by Exystence on Dec 30, 2010 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I made a general statement. Can't speak for every fan.
But seems like every Jet fan wants to play the chiefs.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Dec 30, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
It Starts With Bills!
The playoff run starts this Sunday (like last year) because we need a solid performance and victory. Mark should only play a half—but the defense must shutdown Kilpatrick the entire game. He’s capable, but let’s hope the Bills are out of gas and just want to go home at game time. We have to play KC over Indy in first round. We can beat KC and must win our first round game after last season’s run. After that, it’s a crap shoot against Payton then Brady (if it falls that way). We have a better shot against Ravens and Pitt—but we’ll have to put the points on the board. Unless the defense wakens up, offense and special teams must outperform opponents. Rex must avoid bonehead decisions (whether his or his coaches) and take full control of the defense. Team must avoid tragic penalties and dropped passes. Schotty should stick to play action early and attack with Greene inside and LDT on screens. Folk straight and true all the way through! Go Jets!
Rather the Chiefs than the Colts
The way things look to play out, we’ll be the 6th seed playing the Chiefs, and I think this is the most favorable first round matchup. The Chiefs are stout defensively, but we seem to be hitting our stride offensively, and Schotty has kept the offense in a much better rhythm. That will be a fun strength vs. strength. As for our defense, Revis will shut Dwayne Bowe down, and with a refocus on run defense, Thomas Jones and Jamal Charles don’t scare me. The only problem I can foresee is Charles receiving balls out of the backfield, but with zone blitzes and proper alignments, we should be able to stop that.
Regardless of who Peyton Manning has or doesn’t have, that spread offense was not kind to us last year, nor will it be kind to us this year. After the Chiefs will be the Pats, and we have somewhat of a bone to pick with them.
by BleedingGreen86 on Dec 30, 2010 9:12 AM EST reply actions
Don't be so sure the Jets are playing the chiefs
They have to win to keep the 3 seed. The raiders aren’t going to lye down, and the chiefs might want to rest players. If they lose and the colts win, then the Jets play the colts. However, if the colts lose, the Jags win, the steelers lose, and the Ravens win, then the Jets get the Jags.
I think they’ll play for 3rd seed. I know I’d rather play us than the Ravens in the opener.
by cult hero on Dec 30, 2010 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
We need the football gods on our side
So we won’t have to face the Pats at all. First, we have to win this sunday, then we need the Ravens and Jaguars to win, and the Steelers and Colts to lose. So we would be the 5, and the Steelers the 6. We go to Jacksonville, the Steelers go to KC. I believe the road teams will win in those games, setting things up in the divisional round with the Steelers at the Pats, and us at the Ravens. Once again, I believe the road teams will win in those games. Now if that were to happen, we would host the AFC Championship Game. We would win that, and then onto Super Bowl XLV, where we would face the Falcons, and WIN!
That right there is what would happen in my dreams
Now this is what will probably happen. We beat KC and lose to the Pats.
I want the Pats.
The MNF loss must be avenged in my opinion. It’s the only game we just flat out got our ass kicked. I really want a rematch and I believe we can win it if we get past the first game.
by cult hero on Dec 30, 2010 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 30, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
One and done
We can beat KC/Indy on the road, but I have a hard time believing that we could to it again in Pittsburgh or beat NE.
Hopefully we tighten things up a little bit and go on another run.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
we can beat every team
We’ve proved we can beat the pats and steelers. We lost to the ravens by 1 and i dont think there is much doubt that we can beat the cheifs and colts. It just a matter if we can get some momentum going and start getting all 3 units to click
JETS
Chiefs vs. Jets
Hey guys,
Chiefs fan here. It’ll most likely be NY @ KC next week. Good luck in that game. We’ll both need it. I’m glad we Jets and Chiefs fans can agree on the fact that our best chances to get past the Wild card Round will be against each other. I definitely don’t want the Steelers or Ravens right away.
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