Questioning Brian Schottenheimer's Performance Is Legitimate
by John B on Dec 18, 2010 7:29 PM EST
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PrintI see plenty of people dying to play devil's advocate on the criticism Jets fans have made of Brian Schottenheimer. Beat writer Manish Mehta today tweeted something to indicate fans are being too critical.
Ques for #Jets fans: Who was last off. coordinator you actually liked? Playcalling isn't perfect. But it's not biggest problem w/O right now
This isn't to pick on Manish. I think he does a good job. The sentiment he asserts is common, though. It's easy to paint the fans as irrational reactionaries. It's easy to do. I don't think this statement, even if accurate, is any reason to really say fans are wrong to criticize Schottenheimer. The offensive coordinator is not the only problem. Those who think just firing Schottenheimer will suddenly turn the Jets into a juggernaut offensively are sorely mistaken. With that said, the man calling the plays is a problem. It's not fair to have a mindset where there is only a single problem. There are numerous issues. Pointing out the problems with the offensive coordinator does not suggest there are no other issues. Making comments like the one above suggest there is no fundamental problem. Let me take you through a few things I've noticed recently that suggest otherwise.
More after the jump.
We'll start with New York's second drive of Sunday's game. Mark Sanchez was 0 for 2 and had gift wrapped a potential pick six for Sean Smith. It looked obvious he was not comfortable in the pocket or reading coverage particularly well. A 3rd and 18 came up. The odds of hitting such a play to extend the drive are scant. I'm usually not a big fan of a conservative play and resigning oneself to punting, but I think it's fair to say the situation called for that. With a young struggling quarterback, the last thing a team wants to do is put said quarterback in a position where he tries to do too much and make a mistake. The Jets took a shot 20 yards down the field, which was intercepted. It was on an out route to Santonio Holmes.
The deep out is the most difficult throw to make in football. The ball has to travel vertically far down the field and horizontally to the sideline. Because of this, it has to be delivered with a lot of velocity, on time, and through a very tight window. There is not much time to fit it into tight space. If you ever hear somebody's arm strength questioned, it regards throws like this, not long bombs. Nolan Carroll, who made headlines later in the game, jumped the pass and picked it off. This led to Miami's first score.
I find that play call difficult to defend. Again, you are in a position where you probably will not make the first down. You ask a quarterback without much confidence to make a difficult high risk pass. It was picked off, and Sanchez ended up deeper in the hole. I don't see how anybody could argue that Schottenheimer put his quarterback in a position to succeed.
Another thing I noticed was that Sanchez killed some plays at the line. Whenever you hear him yell, "Kill! Kill!" it means the team has called two plays in the huddle, and it is on the quarterback to decide whether to "kill" the first call and move to the second. I do think there are times where the quarterback should be able to audible, but doesn't it seem like this is making things too complicated for a guy who is again a struggling young quarterback? Sanchez already looked like a fish out of water. When a quarterback is having problems, coaches need to scale things back and go to basics to build confidence, not make things more complicated.
On another note, Schottenheimer called for the Jets to spike the ball and waste a down on their last drive after a completion. The Jets had huddled before the play. A 2:00 drill is a situation where teams need to call two plays in a huddle so they can avoid wasting a down whenever possible. Despite calling two plays earlier, Schottenheimer didn't do it late in the game, and it cost the Jets.
Let's talk a bit about the passing game now. Matt mentioned in his preview that Jerricho Cotchery and Dustin Keller led the team in targets last weekend. I'm not sure this is necessarily a terrible thing. I did find something rather odd in that the Jets have had five different guys (Keller, Cotchery, Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, and LaDainian Tomlinson) who have led the team in targets in more than one individual game this year. Is that a problem? It could be a sign of balance. However, since the Jets are ranked 20th in the league in pass offense, that might be a difficult sell to make.
I keep thinking back to something I read in the summer where Schottenheimer called his three receivers "interchangable." The Jets do have a lot of different personnel groupings with different receivers. Who is the guy Sanchez can count on, though? There is no guy the passing game runs through or any real theme. The Pats like to spread the ball around in the short passing game that begins with Wes Welker. The Colts use to base their passing game off Marvin Harrison. There was talent surrounding him, but everybody had a role. Wayne was on the other side. Brandon Stokely was in the slot. Manning knew where he could find them and had a consistent progression. Now Wayne is the guy.I have heard that there was a time where Ben Roethlisberger only knew the routes of Plaxico Burress and Hines Ward. There is no indication the Jets have done so. It's not necessarily a necessity, but it again a good idea to clearly define roles to simplify things for a young quarterback. It feels at times like the Jets are more like an All-Star team in their passing game with nobody emerging as the top option, than a real team. There is no first look. There are no guarantees any one guy will even be on the field.
I find these to be real issues with the Jets. They display troubling things to me about the play calling and the overall philosophy. I do not think these are unfair to question. I do not think it is unfair to question the offensive coordinator.
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Good job on this post, lots of great points
Schotty has been spotty but as evidenced by last years late run through the playoffs, Schotty when under some fire can come through. Schotty is a big part of the problem but I think Sanchez also shares in the blame. Between his happy feet and locking in on WRs, he is not helping the team.
I know Fire Schotty is the cry of many here but I ask you this, can any offensive coordinator stop Sanchez from repeating the same mistakes?
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It feels at times like the Jets are more like an All-Star team in their passing game with nobody emerging as the top option, than a real team. There is no first look. There are no guarantees any one guy will even be on the field.
Spot on, that’s why the targets fluctuate and change so much on a week-by-week basis.
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Its complicated. Teams study tendencies and the good ones take them away.
For a long time LT was someone who made Sanchez feel safe, now he’s gone. Same with Keller. The problem is that Sanchez isn’t able to make the next level read, so when teams take away the safe throw there is nothing left for him to do.
Schottenheimer has tried to adjust to this with more short throws to WRs, etc, but Sanchez isn’t a great short game QB, he’s too inaccurate.
Personally I think the Jets should have opted for more mid-field passing, pushing the LBers back, with emphasis on Keller and deeper WR crossing routes. The problem with these is that they require time, and can result in INTS. It was the only way to open up the running game.
A big thing has been Sanchez confidence and how to build it. They tried to turn him a bit into something he’s not, and when he failed they tried to play it safe in other ways. This team should have been a more run, run play-action, middle deep team. Instead when it loses confidence they just shorten up and shorten up, and try to out-trick the other team.
LT isnt gone
He is just being used wrong and the line has not been great of late.
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He’s “gone” as an outlet receiver. You don’t think every team knows that LT is a checkdown? They just cover the first option and then jump the LT route, following Sanchez’s eyes all along.
LDT still has a role on this team
He still is a capable blocker and the Jets should try to use some screens with him too. I think McKnight should get a look but it seems like the Jets are saving him for 2012.
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I didn’t say that the role was gone. I said (or at least wanted to strongly imply) that the EFFECTIVENESS of that role is gone. No longer – and its been quite a few games – can Sanchez survey the field knowing that if he finds nothing he can just dump the ball for an 8 yard gain to LT.
Sometimes it seems Sanchez is too quick to dump the ball off to LDT
LDT has been a victim of some poor game planning and poor line play. I dont want him to return next season though.
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When he loses confidence he looks hard for the check down. He just isn’t able to look for a second receiver down field, and yes, the breakdowns on the OL in protection have been a problem.
I have to say that Green has been a serious disappointment. No growth in his game that I can see. Maybe he’s blocking better (?), but his running hasn’t matured.
Greene has let me down
I drafted him with my second round pick in my money fantasy league. So much for picking with your head instead of your heart,lol.
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Ditto on Greene
but I was saved by taking Arian Foster in the sixth round
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Has he seemed over-weight to you? He just seems sluggish through the line and not hitting the second level with pop.
I think greene has been misused. He’s a rhythm guy, imo. He needs to get some carries to get going. But he really hasn’t gotten good carries on a consistent basis. He’s hardly gotten carries all year now that I think about it. He rarely gets more than 10 in a game. Which really isn’t going to get anything established.
Now that I think about it. The running game suffers from the same identity crisis as the receivers. The ball is spread around, albeit more-so to tomlinson, but u can’t really say that the offense is identified with either back. Both backs are different in style, which is going slightly change how the line blocks. Maybe with greene they hold their blocks a little longer and try to get more drive; maybe with tomlinson they try more to get their man sealed and create sharper angles and release quicker to get to the next level.
It seems like the offense lacks an identity in every facet. And really doesn’t play to the strength of anybody.
by Crackback on Dec 18, 2010 9:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The best thing that could happen to Greene would be an LDT injury
No, I dont want anybody on our team to get hurt. This kid will never get his shot with LDT in front of him, and neither will McKnight. I know LDT was great early on but last I checked we play 16 games not 9.
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Greene needs holes opened up for him
and the OL simply isn’t doing that right now.
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm suspicious of any diagnosis that says of a player that is playing poorly
“He just needs to touch the ball a whole lot more”. Yes its true, but it could also lead to a horrible amount of nothing, sending more good money after bad. Sure, GREAT backs are rhythm backs, and need 30 carries getting stronger as they go, but Greene has shown ZERO greatness.
The opposition has just been stuffing the box and Greene really isn’t even hitting the hole hard enough to make it to the second level.
By my eyes Greene is sluggish, and I don’t want a sluggish back carrying the ball 25 times.
Last year Greene averaged 7.7 carries a game.
This year 12.4.
In the last 6 games of the regular season last year he averaged only 10.6 carries
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Add to this SERIOUS questions about Greene being able to hold onto the ball.
He is not a trustworthy ball carrier. If I was trying to grind the clock out with the lead he is the last RB I would feel comfortable with. He can fumble the ball with two hands on it and not even an opponent touching him.
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
His “fumble issues” are grossly over stated. And its been exactly that kind of knee-jerk reaction that’s caused to overly rely on an old man and use him up half way thru the season.
by Crackback on Dec 19, 2010 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You call them “grossly overstated” and I call your ignoring them “grossly understated”. I’m telling you that I have very little confidence that he would hang onto the ball when we ABSOLUTELY cannot fumble, and the Jets themselves have seemed to feel with way in how the have responded to his fumbles. What can I say? You think he is a 25 carry back, and I see a guy who hasn’t deserved it.
by ________key on Dec 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
i disagree
There’s been at least a handful of games where Greene has gotten going early and then wouldn’t get another carry until the end of the 3rd. Most of the other games he’s barely gotten the opportunity to get carries.
We haven’t committed to the run all year. And side from buffalo, I don’t think we’ve had a 100 yard rusher all season.
by Crackback on Dec 19, 2010 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I find your use of “gotten off early” grossly overstated.
by ________key on Dec 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Greene was let down by the LDT signing
He probably thought this was his team and it seemed to last about 5 minutes. Not saying that is an excuse but who knows.
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The problem is that early in the year the fault lay heavily
with Schottenheimer, but his name has come to obscure any number of problems including OL play, defensive box-stacking, and a panicky QB.
I agree with this. I think there’s a perception that just firing him will fix all the problems, but those won’t go anywhere.
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I think there is schizophrenia on this team. Rex feels that the offense should be conservative so his D can win the game, but when Schottenheimer hears this he thinks it means “short passing game”, a complicated, motion-heavy precision offense, spreading the ball around. When this fails (because Sanchez isn’t great at it), they resort to run, run, against a run blitz. Both of these can be defended by box-stacking and tight zones. Its like the Jets have become the Pennington Jets (with the occasional fly pattern down the sidelines).
I have seen this before
I have lived in Tampa since 95 and watched the Bucs go through a bunch of OC’s during the Dungy Era. They had an elite defense and a California QB that was a top 10 pick(Dilfer) but the offense sputtered. Of course the Bucs didnt go on to win the SB until they brought in an offensive minded head coach(Gruden) and a veteran QB(Brad Johnson).
The Colts had the opposite problem, they had a great offense but were in need of some defense to get to the next level. Enter Dungy. I love Rex but unless he becomes more than just a Defensive Coordinator masquerading as a HC, he will only take us so far.
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Could not have said it any better.
And look at Belichick. The dude was a DC and right now he’s looking like the most brilliant offensive coach ever. Rex MUST learn how to run an offense because at the end of the day when the Jets finish 10-6 and miss the playoffs, it falls on HIS head because he’s the god damned HC of the NYJ.
by Exystence on Dec 19, 2010 11:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dear Mr. Mehta
When your team has a very good offensive line, a trio of top-notch wide receivers, a very athletic tight end and 2 good running backs you can’t have 4 out of your 13 gms be w/o a td scored. it’s not as if we dont have the talent on this team. it’s a joke that we can’t score. when the very talented giants stunk last yr, guess what, it was their coach. that’s b/c when a very talented group sucks it’s b/c the coaching is not putting them in position to succeed or not teaching them proper fundamentals to do it. maybe we should hire rich kotite as coach b/c criticism of him was unfair. please
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Mehta is very solid
I wouldnt pick him apart on this, I kind of agree with him.
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i happen to like him in general as well
but whats w/ him bashing jets fans here???? before the season i was thinking of big things for thsi offense w the amount of weapons we have. our offense coming out completely flat in 4 of the 5 biggest gms we’ve had this yr is simply inexcusable. yes, the players have to execute but when you have players this talented i find it strange that they seem to keep on stinking it up
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
I dont think he is bashing Jets fans
He is just trying to explain that it isnt just Schotty. Sure Schotty has not been putting together winning game plans but its up to the players to execute the plays. Santonio catches a pass that Jumbo Elliot wouldve caught, the Jets probably win. How that has anything to do with Schotty is beyond me.
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General Fail
All offenses have strengths and weaknesses. Individual individual units struggle. This is true of all teams at all levels.
When the ENTIRE unit struggles and looks like it lacks cohesion and seems completely out of sync, the culprit is the coaching. St. Louis has a more productive offense than us. I’d say their QB is a better passer but as a whole we have A LOT more talent on our offense at every level.
Our coaching needs to either be replaced or grow a brain and learn to adjust and execute on offense that not only plays to our strengths but deals with the reality of our weaknesses.
The problem isn’t all on the OC, but it all begins with the OC.
by cult hero on Dec 18, 2010 9:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
run game is big part of the problem
a lot of our run stats this season have been beefed up by brad smith doing such a good job with the wildcat . but our run game is not ass effective as last season which has had a knock on effect to our defence this year . this season we are no longer a run first team in my eyes and the pass plays we had so much success with last season have suffered ( play action ) .
i don’t entirely blame bs for this as i think rex was expecting sanchez to step up more this year . i’m sure every team this season has had bad play calls on both sides of the ball especially the pats in game 1 against us .
the difference between us and the pats is they have worked out their kinks but we swept them under the carpet because we were winning .
sanchez is still the same qb that brought us to within 1 game of the superbowl last year but it seems like he can’t use his new toys ( holmes ,lt ) as well as his old ones (jones). its like he is more confused now he has more passing weapons and a less reliable running game .
if sanchez needs the offence to be simplified back to last seasons then fine but to me thats as much rex ryan’s fault and mark’s as it is bs’s . if we need to run the ball more why not unleash conner more early in the game to rough up blitzing lb’s a bit more ?
to get our run game going we need better blocking up front so why not bring in a run blocking te along with conner at fb and smash the ball forward for a change. its the 1 thing we haven’t seen enough of this year . i would be confidant we could rush for over 100 yards this weekend and get some nice play action plays going if we played like that . it would also help our defence a lot not having to play as many minutes .
most importantly it will help our struggling qb gain back some badly needed confidence if we are to have a genuine shot of reaching dallas this year.
last 2 years
I’d say the last 2 years the O play calls have been pretty schotty……ooooOHHHHHHH
by Milwaukee Beers on Dec 18, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions
watching
I don ’t know what some of you are watching but he calls total Shi_ in some pretty questionable time of the game
by Milwaukee Beers on Dec 18, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions
For all you BS supporters answer me this....
What is there to LIKE about the Jets OC? I haven’t researched this, but I don’t think that its a stretch to say that none of the Jets offenses have finished in the top 10 in total offense or scoring offense since he has been in charge.
In 2010, have the Jets shown any measurable improvement on offense since week 1? If so, please show it to me because I sure as hell don’t see it on the field or on the scoreboard or in the comments made by the players.
And to answer Manish Mehta’s tweeted question…..NONE. Since becoming a fan in 1985, there hasn’t been a single OC that I’ve liked and you can add this tool BS to the long list.
exactly
the numbers don’t lie. Those Schotty apologists don’t see that as an OC, players execution ALSO falls under his responsibility. There’s no excuse for mustering SO LITTLE OFFENSE when you have the caliber of players on this roster.
In fact, I think it’s safe to say from looking at the roster, the offense has better players than the defense…yet it’s the defense that’s been top notch and productive. Why is that? It all comes down to the coaching.
I agree in part, but there have been an inordinate number of poorly timed dropped passes, often by very sure-handed receivers. Is this the OC’s fault? Maybe in a minor way, but something more is happening.
And, if you are going to blame the OC, blame the head coach as well, who has run a very lax camp and practice. The attitude towards players has shown in the level of execution I believe.
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Rex is partly responsible for this as well. The team looks like it lacks discipline and preparation. Drops by normally sure-handed receivers? That sounds like a discipline issue. And discipline of the team is the coach’s responsibility. But, who should be the one on the chopping block? Schotty…because his unit is the one that is collectively at fault. That ENTIRE UNIT cannot score.
I do think Schotty has to go because he was kept due to continuity and this simply cannot be continued. But I do not know how much a new OC is simply going to solve all these problems which may go all the way up to the head coach.
Hey I love, LOVE Rex, but he was just a few plays away from crying away the end of the season last year, and the Jets certainly were more than lucky to have gotten the opportunity. I LOVE his bravado, but unless bravado is backed up by execution and discipline it is worthless.
I almost feel that the coaches work SUPER hard and do all this complicated scheming during the week, but run a very sloppy practice, and then are mystified why the scheme isn’t executed on game day, and because their team isn’t organized (how many times have their been the wrong personnel on the field in D?) it also isn’t good at adapting. There just seems an ultimate trust in the “scheme” and not a lot of discipline in executing it.
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree.
Schemes are one of this teams BIGGEST problems. Players are adapted to schemes rather than schemes to players and, on offense in particular, I’ll take superior execution over scheme any day of the week.
I really have never minded Rex’s bravado, even when it falls short. That’s just who he is. I think it created a lot of undue expectations though. I feel I’ve been far more realistic than a lot of fans kinda thinking to myself, “Yeah, Rex believes they’re the best… and he should. I, however, see a QB that’s short on experience and a HC who has just as little.”
Getting to the AFC Championship last year was as much luck as it was anything else. I don’t mind saying so. As such, I viewed this year as another building year. I’ll probably view next year in kind. Rex’s/Mark’s forth season is going to be the point I start to get really critical because there will by far fewer excuses then.
Bravado cuts two ways.
The thing is, if Rex believes they are the best (in some area) he can make unwise coaching decisions of trust (as he has this year and last year), and when the players believe they are the best they might not work quite as hard and focus enough to be the best.
Confidence can lift your performance. Over-confidence can limit it.
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying it's perfect...
Since virtually everything cuts both ways. I just generally like the bravado. I like it a lot better than typical “coach speak.” However, I’m not going to say it doesn’t present its own issues because it does—precisely those you mentioned.
I blame both.
I think Rex is going to have learn, if he wants to be successful, that he DOES need to take more part in the offense and not just dump it all on the OC. I don’t mind blaming some of this on him. His inexperience as a HC is going to be a problem. However, Schotty has been an OC for enough time that he shouldn’t ALSO be coaching like someone lacking experience.
And I can and do blame the dropped passes and other crap on the OC. When the whole offense is struggling, particularly with our roster, it’s not simply an issue of discipline but of comfort and rhythm. The system isn’t working for them and it shows. That comes from a complete lack of identity on offense, bad or no adjustments and crap system.
All I can see is Holmes dropping that perfectly lofted wide open pass in the endzone
And think to myself, something is wrong here.
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
If you're accustomed to awful passes you have to adjust to to catch and then suddenly you get one perfectly perfect one...
…honestly I kind of totally saw it coming. It’s like that one time in little league baseball I was the last man up and we were down by 1 and I had a man on 2nd and the count was 3-2 against this awful, awful pitcher (almost hit me on two of those balls) and I swear the pitch looked like a friggin watermelon right down the middle… and I was like…“derp :B” and let it pass me by, strike 3, ballgame. I remember that clear as friggin day man it HAUNTS me. But my point is that it happens, you get conditioned to it being difficult and then you’re just handed one and you’re like aaaahhhhhhhhh
by Exystence on Dec 19, 2010 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you’re in little league, yes. If you are a pro receiver, no.
by ________key on Dec 19, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Wide Receivers
It seem at times the wide receivers can’t get open. Also, none of them ever come back to Sanchez when he’s scrambling. I watch Vincent Jackson get under thrown by Phillip Rivers, adjust take the ball from the defender and take it in for a touchdown. Every time Sanchez under throws Braylon Edwards its an interception. Is it the players, or is it the system? I think its a little of both. The run game is not the same, but last season, the Jets ran a lot on passing downs. This season, they pass a lot on running downs (second/third and short). Bringing T-Rich back has been a mistake. He’s not the same player. All of LDT runs are up the middle while Shonn Greene, who does not try to make anybody miss has been getting all the off tackle runs. This baffles me.
That’s been a big annoyance. LT up the middle, Greene to the outside.
by ________key on Dec 18, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
It's not just Martyball...
It’s Schottyball…
Where we do the opposite of what makes sense for reasons that don’t make any sense.
I don't ask for much
Maybe mix in a slant or two to Tone on 1st down rather than running it up the middle every time for a yard and a half.
Shotty is not the only problem, but everything begins with him and with a young QB, his playcalling and putting Sanchez in positions to be successful is accentuated even further.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
How can anyone who watches the Jets, let alone write about them not see...
its BS’s fault first and foremost. I’m calling the plays before they happen every time, in fact I can guess what they will run, probably 75% of the time before they line up. This is not an exaggeration its the truth. Imagine what the opposing DC’s are seeing, and doing with that. And as a result its making all our other faults much worse.
Guarantee first down play today, Richardson lines up wide, goes in motion, run up the middle (usually LT), they never do anything else out of that formation, and run it like 5-10 times a game.
Mark Sanchez has thrown third most passes in the NFL.
Enough said
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 19, 2010 10:33 AM EST reply actions
Schotty is not the WHOLE problem
But since he is the man in charge of the offense, it falls on his shoulders. I understand what Manish is saying, but I don’t agree with the logic of it in this respect – he asks the question to point out that we’ve never been happy with our OC because it’s just in a fan base’s nature to be unhappy with its OC. I disagree with that. I think we’ve been unhappy because we’ve had genuinely bad offensive coordinators, probably since Parcells & Co. left, and we had Dan Henning/Charlie Weiss calling things.
Of the Hackett/Heimerdinger/Schotty trio, Schotty has been the best. However, that doesn’t mean he’s been good. I understand that he’s never had an elite QB at his disposal (a weak-armed Pennington, an aging and injured Favre, a young guy like Sanchez), but for crying out loud – we can’t score points against good defenses, PERIOD. Sanchez is erratic, but there are skill players all around him who are pretty good. I’m not saying the Jets should be lighting it up at a 40 ppg game clip or anything, but they shouldn’t be shut out and held to field goals whenever they play a good defense.
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