Jet Nation: It's Time to Stop Moping
by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 16, 2010 10:40 PM EST
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PrintI'm serious. It needs to stop. Around this fan base, you wouldn't know if it was 2010 or 2007. With this vibe around the organization, it's hard to imagine this team making any significant progress for the rest of the season.
Here's a video you should watch:
Listen closely to the siren. Think about the havok and chaos the Jets were about to unleash. Think of Mike Tirico and Jon Gruden just looking at each other in the booth. You can't even hear Darrelle Revis' name being announced the place is so crazy.
That's the attitude the Jets thrive on. Tom Jackson of ESPN said it best when he said this team is "built more on swagger than any other team."
Now, is this post going to help the Jets score more points? No, of course not. Will fans continue to worry their brains out until it becomes unhealthy? Yes. This is the same staff that scored enough points to outlast our uncharacteristic defensive struggles. Think to 2009. When they just needed to win a bunch of games in a row. It was right there, and they went ahead and took it.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have lost 2 games. Thats two whole weeks of losing. You probably have only washed you clothes once or twice in that span.You probably have only taken out recycling once. The NFL season is 17 weeks. May I point out that the Rex Ryan era, by record, is on the fastest start than any other coach in Jets history? May I remind you the QB has less than 30 NFL starts, 3 of which were playoff games? There is more upside on this team than anyone realizes.
Here we sit, nearly a year later, with a better record, controlling our own destiny, with a more talented roster. Why the worry? The Jets will score a touchdown eventually. They will win another game. But geez, am I sick and tired of the constant whining and stress coming out of this team. Just go out and play Jets football.
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perfectly said.
"Dom – for the love of all things Islander – STOP COMMUNITY PROJECTING!." - mikb
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
JETS FOOTBALL IS THE PROBLEM!
Is what has been holding the franchise back for the last 40 years.
JETS FOOTBALL means always being one step above the curve when nobody cares and two steps below the curve when it really matters.
We need something new. A new philosophy instead of the same old thing, new YOUNG superstars with potential, a coach who cares more about winning one game at a time instead of always looking at the big picture.
Something, anything besides what we’ve had for the last several decades is what will get this team and our minds out of the gutter.
A new philosophy instead of the same old thing, new YOUNG superstars with potential, a coach who cares more about winning one game at a time instead of always looking at the big picture.
You’re kidding, right?
Contributing Writer - GangGreenNation.com
Marty Brodeur - Stealing Rangers' lunch money since 1990
by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 16, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Why do people even bother being fans?
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Dec 16, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
They are just band-wagoners, never around for the tough times, they jump on when everything is roses and bitch about the smallest thing going wrong.
They are the Colts fans who complained when the Colts rested Manning last year, The Giants fans who want Coughlin fired every year and Manning traded, Every Cowboy and Steeler fan that isn’t from Texas or Pittsburgh, and so on.
They’ll never understand why we are just as likely to watch a 1-15 Jets team as a 15-1 team.
"Dom – for the love of all things Islander – STOP COMMUNITY PROJECTING!." - mikb
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Its is so tired
There are the diehards who try and be optimistic that we will see a title someday. There are the band wagon fans, and there are the Joe Benigno type fans that always predict failure is on the way. At least it seems Jet Nation is made up mostly of the optimistic fans.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Dec 16, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Manning traded thats a first for me.
wanting Coughlin fired is a creation of the media. people watching to much of them clowns on SNY and ESPN because i don’t hear it on BBV.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Check sports radio the next time Manning has one of his Multi Interception games.
"Dom – for the love of all things Islander – STOP COMMUNITY PROJECTING!." - mikb
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
fair enough.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Jets Football...
Used in this context is basically the same as any [insert team that you happen to cheer for here] football. It just means, “Let’s go kick some ass.”
Ummm, I love the Jets and all, but have you watched the last 8 or so weeks?
With the exception of the Bengals game we have looked like crap. Consider the teams we have barely beaten very closely, then consider the fact that those teams still scored the amount of points they did just for us to barely beat then.
Then consider the good teams we have played all season…we’ve lost to all of then except for an unorganized Patriots team. Finally look at the teams we are playing to control our own destiny, the Steelers and the Bears. These are teams with great defenses. Not just great defenses, but great defenses against out awful offense, awful by design, not by talent.
I know it’s so easy to call people who are pessimistic, band-wagoners, or fair weather Jets fans, but consider how poorly this team has actually played based on the talent level that was not only apparent to the faithful fan but that was projected to the everyday ordinary fan.
I think it you really do this then:
A) You won’t wonder why people are so pessimistic.
B) You can see that if our team isn’t better coached we wont just lose 2 of our last 3, we will suffer through games that we are dominated.
I’m not predicting failure, but I’m saying I don’t see how we can succeed. We’ve made almost no correction to the errors of the last 8 weeks, what makes any of you think it’s going to be different this week?
Sorry about the rant.
I’m tired of the gloom and doom fan posts as much as the next guy, but the eternal optimism posts are just as meaningless until our team puts some W’s on the board against quality teams.
Not really.
We like to get pumped up as fans. No one wants to go into a game feeling like they don’t have a shot.
I’m also in the “win is a win” camp and am happy to have as many as we do this year. For all the gloom and doom with our recent struggles and the lingering questions about our season lingering issues, we’re still doing pretty good all things considered. It sure beats the hell out of being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs already.
Do we really have more issues than say… The Chargers? (Well, we kinda do. We have a substantially harder final 3 games than they do.)
All ya gotta do..
is do what Tone do. Smile and laugh, and puff puff pass, that’s all it takes to relax your ass.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Dec 16, 2010 11:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hellllz yea
we honestly gotta stop freaking out. 2 weeks ago everyone on these boards was confident that we could beat any team in the league. And you know what? We still can. This is the NFL, a place where the bizarre is the norm. So we had 2 bad games, get over it. Lets go to Pittsburgh and show ’em why we are super bowl bound
by FeedTheRexKeg on Dec 17, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
The way I always look at it is this...
The Jets are my team, win or lose and I’m happy enough to be a fan.
Football is a crazy sport that I, admittedly, get very emotionally involved in but, at the end of the day I’m back to being happy to be a fan.
This year, despite the recent gloom and doom… we’re at 9 wins with a serious experience problems at QB and HC. With that said, I’m a pretty happy guy. We could very well lose our next 3 and miss the playoffs. I’d be disappointed, sure… but I think too many people bought into too much hype this year. I didn’t. I believe we’ll be better next year (presuming there’s a season) and that all in all we’re making strides in the right direction.
I think we’re gonna pull it off and make the playoffs. If our offense puts it together, we can beat the Steelers. If we can beat the Steelers we could very well go 12-4, which is not something to scoff at in the least.
lmao breaking new guys
schotty thinks he is good at what he does and getting defensive cause we are calling for his head
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5927813
Gang green nation!
fire schotty and lets go get a goddamn snack!
by JETSFANF0RLYF3 on Dec 16, 2010 11:52 PM EST reply actions
Moping? Lets face it, this team is not that good
I’ve waited for weeks to see this team play championship football. Still waiting. Seen a stat during the Bengals game, “the Jets are second in the league in losing first downs with a penalty with nine”. I can’t believe it’s only nine. This team is talented, but poorly coached and lacks discipline. With that said, I truly believe with all the distractions this team goes into Pittsburgh and beat the wholly snot out of another team I believe is not that good.
I agree with one thing...
I think the three most overrated “good” teams right now are the Jets, the Steelers and the Bears.
And heading down the stretch last year the team looked even worse. Point being?
"Dom – for the love of all things Islander – STOP COMMUNITY PROJECTING!." - mikb
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I'll put it this way (and I agree generally with what you're saying).
I’ll agree that it’s time to stop moping, and I believe, and obviously I’ll be watching on Sunday rooting for our Jets. I think we can turn it around and win, and I’m trying to stay as positive as I can.
But I also don’t think that fans’ negative energy has not been happening in a vacuum. The team is in free fall right now, and if that doesn’t dampen your spirits at least a little, you’re not in your right mind. I don’t think it’s people “jumping off the bandwagon,” I think it’s people panicking because it’s not the first sign of trouble – the trouble has been brewing for a while now.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
*has been happening in a vacuum
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
Can’t disagree with you. It does have the feel of tje wheels falling off this thing. The hc seems to be losing control, threatening to yank his qb and dividing the lockerroom; the oc has been terrible all year especially against good defenses, 2 of which we’ll be facing in the next 2 games; our young qb appears to be regressing by the week and his confidence is shot; our offense hasn’t scored a td in 2 weeks; our dominant running game hasn’t dominated all year; our receivers can’t catch; the injuries keep piling up on our defense; and it seems we can’t get thru a single week without being involved in a scandal of some sort.
There’s really not much firm ground to build a foundation of confidence in. And if we lose this game, I gotta feelin everybody is gonna turn on each other.
All that said, I have a feelin we’re gonna put it on the steelers tomorrow. Nothing couched in logic, just the ball bouncin our way type of thing.
by Crackback on Dec 17, 2010 9:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Since when is being realistic whining?
Seriously, the problem is NOT the fan base, it’s the performance of the players and coaches of the Jets. This is the inevitable outcome of talking superbowl when you can barely beat the mediocre teams in the NFL. And on top of all that, we have to put up with the ridiculous off the field and on the sidelines incidents (Inez Sainz and Sal Alosi) that are an embarrassment to the Jets organization and to Jets fans. Having one incident that required the league to send out an email to ensure teams understood appropriate behavior was bad enough, but two?? I’ve been a die hard Jets fan since 1971 when I started watching football and I don’t need anyone telling me not whine when I’m being realistic about this team’s chances and their performance.
You've got a point
The team’s behavior OFF the field is, to me, more pathetic than on the field. Sainz, Braylon Edwards’ DUI, players going on TMZ and mocking Brady’s hair, and now this disgrace with Alosi.
The only person in that organization that I feel worse for than Rex is Woody Johnson. That man has dealt with enough problems in the last year that he doesn’t need his team acting like a bunch of…you know what, never mind. I’ve made my point.
A little insight into Jets fans...
I’m a lifelong Jets fan. I bleed green. Jets games on Sunday can pretty much determine how my mood will be until at least Wednesday of the following week. Given a choice between a Jets Super Bowl victory and keeping all my appendages, I might give serious thought to how many toes I really need. That kind of Jets fan.
…And I’m not the only one. I’ve met many Jets fans just as passionate about them as I am, and even more so. But, I’ve also met plenty of the “fair-weather” and, even more commonly, “woe is me” jets fans (and I hesitate to use the term “fan”). I actually threatened to strangle a guest at a Thanksgiving party because he pulled out the “SOJ” at halftime of the Bengals game.
…Here’s the thing…I grew up in New York, but left for school and, subsequently, work. I’ve spent the last 15 years in places other than New York and have seen how fans of other teams show loyalty. I am here to tell you JetsNation…the grass IS greener. In all the places I’ve lived I’ve never seen fans be so quick to crucify their team, nor do it so harshly. It’s sad really. Almost makes me think that New York doesn’t deserve the Jets. MY beloved Jets (yes, I know they are not MINE, but that’s how I feel sometimes…and you should too). Fans in other cities and states don’t fold up as quickly as some of us do. Even when things are bad, in places like Baltimore, the energy of the fanbase, in the media and at the stadium, is always consistently high. I can’t help but think that that kind of support and loyalty can only energize the players and help them find that “little bit more” that can be all the difference between a win and a loss.
I guess what I’m trying to say is, show some damn loyalty! Things aren’t always going to be rosy, but it could be worse. You could live in LA, where they don’t even have a team! Appreciate what you have and cheer as hard as you can, from wherever you are, on Sunday. And have a little damn perspective media!
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